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2004-09-29 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-29 23:01|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Rule #1 don't use the phone.
Rule #2 don't be trators and someone might care.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-09-29 1:24:53 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-09-29 1:24:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 You just have to love the name of the case:

The New York Times v. United States of America

Posted by trailing wife 2004-09-29 7:26:48 AM|| 2004-09-29 7:26:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Indeed. Sums up their editorial policy, their prejudices, and their political leanings all in one neat phrase.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-09-29 7:40:43 AM|| 2004-09-29 7:40:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 From the article:

The paper said the government intends to get the records, which reflect confidential communications between the journalists Philip Shenon and Judith Miller and their sources, from third parties unlikely to be interested in challenging its authority.

Did the NY Times just confirm with this phrase the source was a US governemnt employee.

"We are very troubled at this brazen intrusion into our relationship with our sources, which is unconstitutional and endangers our free press," he said.

What the f*ck is wrong with these people? Its the lack of candor, the hidden agendas engendered by using unnamed sources that threaten freedom of the press.

I bet the day after the NY Times is forced to release those records, they will still be publishing stories using confidential sources. It's a bad habit, like crack for those folks.

Posted by badanov 2004-09-29 7:56:48 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-09-29 7:56:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 NYPost:

September 29, 2004 -- The Justice Department has charged that a veteran New York Times foreign correspondent warned an alleged terror-funding Islamic charity that the FBI was about to raid its office â potentially endangering the lives of federal agents. The stunning accusation was disclosed yesterday in legal papers related to a lawsuit the Times filed in Manhattan federal court.

The suit seeks to block subpoenas from the Justice Department for phone records of two of its Middle Eastern reporters â Philip Shenon and Judith Miller â as part of a probe to track down the leak. The Times last night flatly denied the allegation.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago charged in court papers that Shenon blew the cover on the Dec. 14, 2001, raid of the Global Relief Foundation â the first charges of their kind under broad new investigatory powers given to the feds under the Patriot Act.

"It has been conclusively established that Global Relief Foundation learned of the search from reporter Philip Shenon of The New York Times," Fitzgerald said in an Aug. 7, 2002, letter to the Times' legal department.

He said he understood journalists' concerns about protecting the identities of their sources, but national security and preventing leaks that thwart probes into "terrorist fund-raising" trump such confidentiality. "I would posit that the circumstances here â the decision by the reporter to provide a tip to the subject of a terrorist fund-raising inquiry which seriously compromised the integrity of the investigation and potentially endangered the safety of federal law-enforcement personnel â warrant such cooperation in full," Fitzgerald said.

Times lawyer George Freeman told The Post that Fitzgerald "wrongly" suggested that Shenon alerted the Islamic charity to the raid. "We deny he tipped anyone off," Freeman said. He added that Global Relief would have anticipated the raid in any case because the feds had already hit the office of another suspected terror-funding Islamic charity, the Holy Land Foundation, and the government had frozen the assets of several other charities.

Assholes

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-29 9:13:14 AM|| 2004-09-29 9:13:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 If all that is true, that is at least two felonies for Mr. Shenon.

Posted by badanov 2004-09-29 9:22:07 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-09-29 9:22:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 So much of the press truly are traitors.

Posted by ed 2004-09-29 9:26:54 AM|| 2004-09-29 9:26:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The NYT and cronies are truly stupid.

If they get what they appear to want - the U.S. loses and terrorists win - they'll be among the first to be killed.

Earth to facist/communist/terrorist-loving press: The only freedom of the press your pet dictators and terrorists will give you is the FREEDOM OF THE GRAVE.

I'll gladly send you the 2 cents you need to buy a clue.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-09-29 10:00:29 AM|| 2004-09-29 10:00:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 The NY Times is fast devolving into a lifestyle guide.
The Times is no more necessary for news or info than a browser and a set of bookmarked sites like RB. Childless urbanites seeking to refine their style and talking points turn to the Times' news and OpEd pages the same way they turn to the arts n leisure section.

Posted by lex 2004-09-29 10:29:50 AM|| 2004-09-29 10:29:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 "...Global Relief would have anticipated the raid in any case because the feds had already hit the office of another suspected..." So this S for brains says it doesn't matter if the reporters broke the law.Wonder if he is related to the Preis of Oaklnd city Council and C of Police.
Assholes is right,can't call him a prick.A prick is the best part of a man(or so my ex tells me).

Posted by Raptor 2004-09-29 11:19:43 AM|| 2004-09-29 11:19:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 The Constitution doesn't say a damned word about newspapers and confidential sources. So much for that dodge. US law does have some words about "obstruction of justice" and "accessory before the fact to a felony", however...

Posted by mojo 2004-09-29 11:31:42 AM|| 2004-09-29 11:31:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 US law does have some words about "obstruction of justice" and "accessory before the fact to a felony", however..

Then that's three felonies. :o)

Obstruction of justice.
Hindering prosecution
Accessory to a felony

Posted by badanov 2004-09-29 1:20:36 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-09-29 1:20:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 For those of you who don't live in Illinois, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is not a man to cross lightly. The NYT better think about cutting these reporters loose.

Posted by Dreadnought 2004-09-29 4:24:27 PM|| 2004-09-29 4:24:27 PM|| Front Page Top

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