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2004-09-01 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Chris W. 2004-09-01 12:00:37 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 He was great! Had the crowd rockin' and you know the Dhimmicrats had their panties in a wad. No wonder that idiot went after Mathews screamin' Abu Ghraib (even if it did happen before Arnies speech....I couldn't resist). The Left is really comin' unhinged. Everyone in NYC better watch yer backs. It might be fun for the rest of us to watch, but I wouldn't want to be caught in that crap.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-09-01 12:20:00 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:20:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I loved it the Wife, Daughter and I watched it during dinner. It's certainly the only bit of the convention I will see (intentional.) The wife loved it. My daughter doesn't like theg term "girlymen" She says it's dissing women. I had to laugh outloud. Told her to get some thicker skin (She is 24) everyone here likes our Gov.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-09-01 12:27:35 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:27:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The wife and I both thought Arnie did great. What was moving was 1) the part about he, his father and his uncle coming up to the checkpoint in Soviet-occupied Austria (remember that?), and 2) visiting the hospitalized soldier who wanted to get back to his unit in Iraq. One could say, "oh, it's just a speech", but there was real emotion there.

Posted by Steve White 2004-09-01 12:36:10 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:36:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Sock, has she ever seen the SNL sketch? Does she understand self-parody?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-01 12:39:39 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:39:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I loved this speech. I wish Moore was there tonight so I could have watched Arnold show him the door.

Posted by Charles 2004-09-01 12:42:40 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:42:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 No SNL for her, she just graduated with her masters in physics not much time for TV. I had to explain it to her. She likes Arnie.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-09-01 12:56:03 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:56:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Agreed Mr White. Arnolds rememberances of communistic nightmares was very forcefull. I hope he can overcome the liberal coolness factor that is so prevalent in west coast "in-crowd" culture. I think he can.

Did I ever tell you all about how I'm in with the In-crowed? I go where the the In-crowed goes. I think like the In-crowed, laugh, sing, dress like the In-crowed. And it's like the bomb, MAN!

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 12:56:50 AM|| 2004-09-01 12:56:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I can hear the nails a-tap-tap-tappin on the girlymen's coffin. Yes indeed.

Posted by Secret Master 2004-09-01 1:06:26 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:06:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 And he was right about that Soviet quote. I know what happened when you DID look them in the eyes.

You really can only appreciate the full value of freedom if you experienced the dire lack of it.

Which makes the fact that America values freedom so much even more amazing.

By his definition I guess I'm a Republican then.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:13:06 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:13:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Welcome to the fold, TGA! Lol! I converted about 9/12/2001, myself.

Posted by .com 2004-09-01 1:16:55 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:16:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Well, the Democrats had an unfair advantage after Kennedy had made his Berlin speech. But I didn't really bother much with any party, there were good people in both.
Carter was a desaster, I respected and very much liked Ronald Reagan (met him twice), got along well with Bush 41 (met him once), didn't really dislike Clinton (met him twice) despite of his shortcomings.
I'll confess (while not liking Gore) I wasn't too happy about George W. Bush when he was elected president. I guess Clinton's eloquence had to do with this.

I think it was on September 14th when I convinced myself that America had elected the right president.

And if I could vote I'd certainly vote for him. Even if the Democrats actually had a candidate I could respect.

Well I can't vote but I did convince a few Americans living here to vote for him.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:28:57 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:28:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 TGA, you couldn't see through Winky's BS? I saw it day one. Big man on campus syndrome. Is that not a thingy in Germany?

What did you think about Gore? To be up front I found him a creep. No politix, just mano.

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 1:37:19 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:37:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 TGA, it is odd but, IMO, Kerry would make a more acceptable president than Gore ever would have. Every character flaw that is present in Kerry is magnified in Gore. I don't think that either man really changed, but our perception really has in the US. Has there been a similar change in how Shroeder is perceived by the German people since the WOT started?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-01 1:40:05 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:40:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 TGA - you have our thanks for your respect for Dubya. He grew up and became a man worthy of it in September. And thanks for endorsing him to other Americans - who knows what nefarious and unreliable sources they would've otherwise been forced to rely upon! Thanks!

Posted by .com 2004-09-01 1:55:03 AM|| 2004-09-01 1:55:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 SH, I agree. Gore was/is weird. Kerry is at least a normal ass. But an ass none the less!

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 2:05:33 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:05:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Gore was pretty much a "non entity" for me... totally bland, without character (neither good or bad).
SchrÃ¶der was actually dead meat in 2002 when he managed to turn things around when East Germany was hit with catastrophic floods. His opponent didn't look good in those days. His "antiwar stance" was enough to pull him over the edge (anti-Americanism played much better in North and East Germany where he actually grabbed the necessary votes from the East German (post) communists. He also promised labor reforms that would hurt no one. In the South he faced desaster with his politics. Since then it has been downhill, but this is less connected with WOT but with his headless performance, hastily pushed "reforms" which went against everything he had promised in the elections.
Unfortunately right now the German opposition is rather headless as well. "Libertarian" reforms the way Angela Merkel pushes are simply not sellable right now, so Stoiber may rise again. He's closer to "compassionate conservatism" (read: same reforms but with a social sugarcoating).
We actually need a chancellor who is willing to LOSE the next elections in order to do what must be done.

And by doing that, he might actually win them.

And Kerry? Well, even if I forgot about everything he has done before 2004, he has no appeal to me.

And simply no message. Or two. Or three.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 2:07:15 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:07:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Its not just Kerry either.

Edwards is hanging himself too. Aside form the "Give Uranium to the Mullahs" idiocy, there are some solid contradictions that will be brought out to club him with - probably by Cheney.

(Kudos to a poster on Beldar Blog for pointing these out)

1. Kerry is running on a platform that having served at all in the military isn't good enough. That you had to have volunteered for Vietnam.

Well John Edwards was born in 1953, and turned 18 in 1971. He didn't volunteer. He didn't join the ROTC. He has never served in any branch of the military a day in his life.

So how can Kerry make the argument that he's qualified to be president and vice-president?

2. Kerry's platform is rabidly pro-abortion. The platform essentially demands abortion at will, and at any time during the pregancy and for anyone, regardless of age.

John Edwards made his name, career and fortune suing obstreticians for malpractice because they weren't as attentive and proactive in the fetuses interests as they should have been. In short he sued doctors for not performing c-sections early enough to prevent autism, even though the rationale behind these lawsuits is considered to be junk science.

So the platform is that fetuses have no rights and can be destroyed at will with no problems. His career is based on defending the rights of fetuses.

Does anyone else see a couple of very large rhetorical clubs with which to beat John Edwards with?

Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-01 2:31:09 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:31:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 All one has to do is listen to John Edwards to know the kind of elitist Kerry is. Edwards is one scarry trial lawyer. Only a total "we are better thinkers than you so we must rule you" type morlock like Kerry could pick an Edwards. I figure most southerners will see right thru his ambulance chasing ~~forked tongued~~ behind.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-09-01 2:34:32 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:34:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Speaking of multiple message, WND has another version of the Rassman saga that has surfaced. The new version was read into the Congressional Record by Kerry in 1998 as part of a eulogy for one of Kerry's crew members, Thomas Belodeau.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-01 2:51:44 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:51:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 OS/S puppet de doom.. Yes, yes, I hope so!

I think Edwards is scum. If he and I were to share any time at all I would have to punch his mouth. It wouldn't be anything I could control. POW! He's the lowest of the low. Gore was/is a freak. I think God saw it and blinded the the electorate of Florida (Yes folks, devine intervention, got anything better to explain it all?) Edwards, I hope will just disappear with Kerry. Go away flake. May god help us again.

TGA, Your dicription of Stoiber reads like a pretender. Who are the players. Does Germany have a Clinton type, a Bush type, or Gore or Kerry type.

Trust me when I say that Gore is a flakefreaky dude. Kerry is a punk. Not politix, Just manno. I've read you with interst for some time. You'd grow very weary of both of those guys.

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 2:57:56 AM|| 2004-09-01 2:57:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 No Stoiber is no pretender. He leads Bavaria which has about the best economic and job performance in Germany. Right now Angela Merkel is calling the shots but she's coming under increasing pressure by party contenders. Her libertarian views of economic reforms (in Germany this is called "neoliberal") may simply be too much to swallow and some of her proposals really are not socially balanced (she pushes for a mandatory health insurance, where everyone pays the same which has strange socialist touches and does not allow for choice). Stoiber may very well pull a comeback (he lost by a few thousand votes only in 2002).
I wouldn't be unhappy with Stoiber. He has a proven record, Merkel has not.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 3:11:50 AM|| 2004-09-01 3:11:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 "neoliberal."... like von Mises, but weird? Or are they taking a swipe at classical liberalism?

Posted by Asedwich 2004-09-01 3:26:06 AM|| 2004-09-01 3:26:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 Whether one is a free market type or a libertain, or even a socialist, don't mater to me these days. What about the nasty thingy. Those pesky questions regarding head scarves, locations of mosqueskks, loud speakers calling the faithful to prayer, where to send the troops,...

Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 3:40:53 AM|| 2004-09-01 3:40:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 1. Kerry is running on a platform that having served at all in the military isn't good enough. That you had to have volunteered for Vietnam.

Well John Edwards was born in 1953, and turned 18 in 1971. He didn't volunteer. He didn't join the ROTC. He has never served in any branch of the military a day in his life.

I read somewheres that Kerry didn't volunteer for Viet Nam. He went into the reserves, which was considered safe from being deployed to Viet Nam in 1971 ( it probably wasn't: that is just what recruits were ebing told at the time ) and through a series of decisions by the Navy wound up in Viet Nam anyway.

Posted by badanov 2004-09-01 8:11:13 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-09-01 8:11:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#25 We Tennesseans knew about Gore for quite some time but his Daddy's political Machine and all the Liberal Loons in Nashville managed to get him elected Senator. He couldn't and never will carry the state in a Presidential election.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-09-01 8:20:58 AM|| 2004-09-01 8:20:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#26 #25 We Tennesseans knew about Gore for quite some time but his Daddy's political Machine and all the Liberal Loons in Nashville managed to get him elected Senator.

Where abouts you from , Mr. Blues? Always nice to hear from a fellow Vol. BTW, you're right. Al-Gore is not a Tennessean. He's grew up in DC while his daddy was selling us down the river.

Posted by Pyscho Hillbilly 2004-09-01 10:46:47 AM|| 2004-09-01 10:46:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 TGA, you're not a Republican.
You're an American.

http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/11/AnAmericaninSpain.shtml

And we welcome you.

Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-09-01 11:08:10 AM|| 2004-09-01 11:08:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#28 Psycho, I'm actually a transplanted Alabaman. I live in the tri-cities area and am an Auburn Tiger, but love East Tennessee, I've lived here since 1990.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-09-01 12:24:25 PM|| 2004-09-01 12:24:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Well, War Dam* Eagle! Good to see some AU fans up in TN. I'm actually a grad of AU in GA.

Posted by BA 2004-09-01 6:02:29 PM|| 2004-09-01 6:02:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 war beagle! please to be contact me for your plowing and transportation needs.

Call Sample Sales at a BR-549.

Posted by Half 2004-09-01 7:09:58 PM|| 2004-09-01 7:09:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Very funny, half. I did get a lol out of you comment.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-09-01 8:39:52 PM|| 2004-09-01 8:39:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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