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2004-07-17 Home Front: Politix

AP Seeks Release of Bush Military Records

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Posted by Steve White 2004-07-17 2:20:45 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And thus anyone's personal records become 'public' property, all because we have a 'right' to know.

Posted by Don 2004-07-17 8:07:41 AM|| 2004-07-17 8:07:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 smell of desperation from the liberal media: Iraq calming, economy booming, buyer's remorse every time they listen to JF'nK speak

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-17 9:29:34 AM|| 2004-07-17 9:29:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Someone remind me: have we seen all of sKerry's Vietnam war records yet?

But what I really want are Teresa's tax records. I'm betting she owns more shares of Halliburton than Cheney did.

Posted by Steve White 2004-07-17 11:40:14 AM|| 2004-07-17 11:40:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Any specific reason why AP is still after this information, even though this little "issue" is quite passe?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-17 1:09:41 PM|| 2004-07-17 1:09:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 BaR-Fahrenheit 9/11? Moore made a lot of blacked out names in the military records...

Posted by jules 2 2004-07-17 1:26:51 PM|| 2004-07-17 1:26:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I like your idea #3.

As for why Moore has been successful in stoking the press's interest in GWB's national guard service, I think it's time for GWB to put the kabosh on this nonsense with a straight forward explanation of how an honorable discharge is earned.

The problem is that most Americans do not realize that national guard service is credited for the total number of days put in over the course of 6 years. Missing time in the course of the 6 years in not a big deal, because it's the total number of days at the end of all those years of service that counts for fullfilling the agreement. And though GWB had absences for personal reasons, he put in the total required days. Simple. But GWB or his press secretary needs to tell the press and American voters how service is credited. The only reason that this story still has legs is because the WH has not properly explained the requirements of national guard service. And the press, never having served in the national guard themselves, are still thinking there is smoke re: GWB's lapses in service. The WH needs to pour a bucket of water on this silliness once and for all and quit ignoring the innuendo. It will not go away on its own.
http://www.ngaus.org/ngmagazine/main101.aspNational Guard Association Magazine, Number 19
January 2001
âGeorge W. Bush is the latest in a long line of U.S. presidents who once served in the National Guardâ By Lisa Daniel
...Bush's drill performance also stirred controversy during the campaign. Some reports charged that he was absent for a year. However, probably the most comprehensive media review of Bush's military records concluded that while he, "served irregularly after the spring of 1972 and got an expedited discharge, he did accumulate the days of service required for him for his ultimate honorable discharge." The review was done by Georgemag.com, the online version of the magazine founded by the late John F. Kennedy Jr. Guardsmen say Bush's service record is not unusual.

"In any six-year time frame you probably can find some problems," says retired Rep. G.V. 'Sonny' Montgomery, D-Miss., founder of the House Guard and Reserve Caucus. "Just learning to fly the F-102 and not getting hurt and not hurting anybody is an accomplishment." Montgomery called Bush's election, "nothing but a plus for the Guard."
The retired Mississippi National Guard major general supported Bush so strongly for president that he served as co-chair of the Veterans for Bush campaign, even though he is a Democrat. He said that the Guard will improve under Bush's leadership because he understands the life of Guardsmen and he's proud of his service.

Posted by rex 2004-07-17 3:08:14 PM|| 2004-07-17 3:08:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Frank nailed it--you know when the Left drags out this crap about Bush's NG records and they whine about him "stealing the election"/Florida 2000, that they don't have Jack Squat!
Since the outing of Joe Wilson this week and the fact that both the Congressional and the British reports on the Iraq intell cleared both Bush and Blair and justified us removing Saddam from power because he was indeed pursuing nukes, it's back to square one for the Dimocrats, which is Florida and the National Guard (and vague insinuations about Enron, Halliburton and the Soddy Royal Family).

Posted by Jen 2004-07-17 3:16:39 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-07-17 3:16:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I disagree with #7. I don't think the press is desperate. I think they're simply following up on the innuendo that Moore sprinkled in Farenheit 9/11. Also last week there was some story about a bunch of service records, including GWB's, being accidently destroyed. So with those 2 events, the press is smelling an expose and a cover up.

I still believe the WH needs to explain very clearly what it takes to get an honorable discharge-it's total days not years that count- and then quote the total number of days that GWB had put in. Simple. Heck, the WH can even request a copy of the data collected in the research done by Georgemag.com in 2000 that validated GWB's total days of national guard service and make copies to hand out to the press corp stapled to 2001 article I cut and pasted from the Nat'l Guard Association magazine. That would shut everyone up. End of story.

Posted by rex 2004-07-17 3:33:12 PM|| 2004-07-17 3:33:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 that wouldn't shut them up, Rex. The media did recounts and recounts and Bush won in all, so did that put it to rest? Nope, just ask that moron Eddie Bernice Johnson and her plantation trash. They would keep blacks down if it helped the Dem party. Assholes, all of them

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-17 3:40:50 PM|| 2004-07-17 3:40:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Bush's NG service is a 'non-story." he shared reams of records, including dental X-rays.
Everyone has shut up about it except for Mikey Moore and the Lamestream media and their entourage of Bush haters.
And I wanna see Kerry's FBI file from his anti-war protestor days and both his and TherAYsah's tax returns!

Posted by Jen 2004-07-17 3:50:36 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-07-17 3:50:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I would like to see Kerry's *unfiltered* military record. What we were given appears to be selected 'praiseful' sections and not the entire story.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-07-17 4:25:27 PM|| 2004-07-17 4:25:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 "I still believe the WH needs to explain very clearly what it takes to get an honorable discharge. [...] That would shut everyone up. End of story."

And if you believe that, I'll be glad to sell you some beachfront property in Denver. Since when have these people ever let facts, or truth, get in the way of their manufacturing a bogus "issue"?????

This is about the eighty-eight gazillionth time this stupid Bush National Guard service bullshit has been raised. Enough is enough, already.

I spent 31 years as a registered Democrat; but thanks to crap like this, I'll never vote for one of those lying assholes again, ever-- not even for Dogcatcher.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-07-17 5:10:54 PM|| 2004-07-17 5:10:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Kerry was in Viet'nam. He earned three purple hearts. He's a War Heeeeero, dinchya know?

Posted by nada 2004-07-17 6:34:48 PM|| 2004-07-17 6:34:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Did the AP also follow up on the other movies falsehoods that Jabba claims as truth? Where are John Friggin Kerry's 'distinguished' military records? Lets have a look at the boo boo, ouchies records that Lt. Kerry says warrant the Silver Star? They are SOOOOO desparate for some dirt they are fishing in a pond with no more fish in it. Look for a made up AP story two-days befoer teh election that says Bush stole a pen from the guard unit and never returned it.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-07-17 6:55:56 PM|| 2004-07-17 6:55:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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