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2004-06-22 Home Front: Culture Wars

Luddite Weighs in on Spaceship One Triumph

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-22 12:15|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I expected a surge in lefty/luddite space-bashing now that private spaceflight is a reality. Gagnon, Arch-Druid of the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space (aka GnawAn'Pis), wasted little time in proving me right.

He hits all the right notes for his audience: "space pollution", militarization, corporate profits. He even manages to invoke the dread name of the Left's demon du jour, Halliburton.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-22 12:20:11 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:20:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Temperature readings show space pollution contributes to space warming, especially toward the center of our solar system

(/tinfoil hat)

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-22 12:26:05 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:26:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 These two little gems stand out:

The time as certainly come for a global discussion about how we treat the sensitive environment called space before it is too late.

"[T]he sensitive environment called space," puhlease! Who is this loon? We are sensitive to space, it is not sensitive to us!

Of course this means that after the taxpayer paid all the R & D, private industry now intends to gorge itself in profits. One Republican Congressman from Southern California, an ally of the aerospace industry, has introduced legislation in Congress to make all space profits "tax free". In this vision the taxpayers won't see any return on our "collective investment."

Rather obviously, the public will see no benefits in the way of improved material science, drug isolation, fundamental research or sophisticated device fabrication techniques. All such advances will be forced to remain in orbit due to the prohibitive cost of sending them back down the "gravity well."

Posted by Zenster 2004-06-22 12:37:57 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:37:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Bruce's cubicle...

Posted by .com 2004-06-22 12:46:29 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:46:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Now that is priceless. I bow in homage to those who constructed this masterpiece.

Posted by Steve 2004-06-22 12:51:52 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:51:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The Left hates and fears private spaceflight precisely because the more progress it makes, the harder it will be to regulate and control.

At some point in the distant future, self-sustaining space communities will be almost immune to centralized control of any kind, a lefty's worst nightmare.

Can you imagine the UN police trying to root out renegade asteroid colonies?

This kind of stuff has been a top theme of science fiction for decades. I especially like the rabidly anti-Luddite novel Fallen Angels by Niven, Pournelle and Flynn.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-22 12:58:13 PM|| 2004-06-22 12:58:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Jeebus, is this guy for real?!? Are we seriously talking about the perils of polluting a LIFELESS VOID?!? Get a frickin grip!

Posted by BH 2004-06-22 1:00:38 PM|| 2004-06-22 1:00:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Two points (1) the majority of that debris was created in the very early days of space travel. More advanced craft seem less likely to leave the debris, or at least they leave it behind prior to breaking into orbit so that it falls into the sea (2) If we have private industry in space perhaps we can pay someone to clean up the mess. Put up a y-prize saying anyone that can figure out any way to clean it up for x dollars will get the cash. I bet someone would think of something.

Posted by yank 2004-06-22 1:18:22 PM|| [politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-06-22 1:18:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#9
It was recently reported that the Haliburton Corporation is now working with NASA to develop new drilling capabilities to mine Mars.

I'm pretty sure NASA asked Halliburton to develop a drill for Mars exploration, not mining.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-22 1:33:54 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-22 1:33:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 You just can't make this stuff up. Here's to a true crackpot. Whatta maroon.

Posted by remote man 2004-06-22 1:47:21 PM|| 2004-06-22 1:47:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm not a psychologist, by any means, but I suspect that Bruce is scared of men with hair on their chests who like to tinker with machines and can do math. Deep down, he's afraid they're gonna set out to hunt antelopes or mastodons or something and tromp through his organic veggie garden. I also suspect that Bruce isn't too fond of new-fangled things like drilling for green cheese on the moon -- if it was good enough for Eugene V. Debs, it should be good enough for us.

And they call us conservatives?

Posted by Fred 2004-06-22 1:51:26 PM|| 2004-06-22 1:51:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Steve, if you liked the foil cubicle, check out this and this. Loopy friend wraps man's apartment in foil.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-06-22 1:55:18 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-06-22 1:55:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 I guess that means the rest of the universe can't bid on any of the Martian contracts right?

Posted by Ali Abdel Hafiz ben americani al ignorami aziz el alb mahmoud mustafa ben shoo bee doo 2004-06-22 1:55:21 PM|| 2004-06-22 1:55:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Sure, make a bid, jackoff. Be sure to include shipping charges, lol!

Posted by .com 2004-06-22 1:58:23 PM|| 2004-06-22 1:58:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Oh Gawd - Can't find any photo of the Veep holding a power tool.

I wanted to give the leftys something to howl
about. Dick Cheney is taking over Mars!

There is one of him holding a knife (About to cut a cake)

I did find this:

(Google Images)

Cheney & Rumsfeld c1975

So people can talk about a 30 years of conspiracies!

Posted by BigEd 2004-06-22 2:08:43 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:08:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Ali, we'll make an exception for you, what with Mars being like the 3,276th Holiest Site in Islam and all.

Posted by BH 2004-06-22 2:16:07 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:16:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The space junk takes care of itself. Friction is generated by it hitting gas molecules escaping from our atmosphere (ohmygawd, the atmosphere is leaking into space... quick... call the UN!) and the solar wind. Eventually, it fall back into the atmosphere and burns up.

Here is my favorite tin foil beanie site.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-06-22 2:17:21 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:17:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 "Well Dick sure we could lie to start a war I mean We did it in Vietnam W/ the Bay of Tonkin. Gimme a few years I'll go shake hands w/ that Iraqi 'Friend' of ours wutshisname?" "great, I'm so excitd Rummy I feel a strange fluttering in my heart, i'll go sign up all the chemical & biological weapons conracts to be delivered to our 'Friend'".

www.iraqiidol.com

Posted by Ali Abdel Hafiz ben americani al ignorami aziz el alb mahmoud mustafa ben shoo bee doo 2004-06-22 2:27:33 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:27:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 How come the trolls on this site are so illiterate? Do you have some kind of I-can't-type, I-can't-read club you go to in order to meet other subhumans, Abdel?

Posted by BMN 2004-06-22 2:33:29 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:33:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 How come the trolls on this site are so illiterate? Do you have some kind of I-can't-type, I-can't-read club you go to in order to meet other subhumans, Abdel?

Posted by BMN 2004-06-22 2:33:30 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:33:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 This is typical of the disease that has infected us for the last forty years: those that don't understand anything and can't do anything (lawyers, environmentalists, "activists" et. al.) try to muscle in and take the prize from those who can actually produce. The older I get, the more sense "Atlas Shrugged" makes.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-22 2:39:54 PM|| 2004-06-22 2:39:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 How come the trolls on this site are so illiterate?

It's a union requirement, I think.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-22 2:40:38 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-22 2:40:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Ali,
It's the Gulf of Tonkin, the war was already on at the time, and this "we" you are projecting onto Cheney and Bush was, in fact, Lyndon Baines Johnson and other enlightened liberal types such as Bobby Kennedy and Robert McNamara.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-22 3:11:50 PM|| 2004-06-22 3:11:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Temperature readings show space pollution contributes to space warming, especially toward the center of our solar system

Danger! Entropy Decreasing!

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-22 3:42:07 PM|| 2004-06-22 3:42:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 That photo brings it out, Rumsfeld is Clark Kent.

Posted by Capt America 2004-06-22 4:18:20 PM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/] 2004-06-22 4:18:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 The moron who wrote this is British. He didn't contribute a damned thing to the US space program!

Posted by Steve White 2004-06-22 6:32:04 PM|| 2004-06-22 6:32:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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