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2004-06-02 Home Front: WoT
FBI Issues Alert for Stolen Propane Tankers
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Posted by rex 2004-06-02 12:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 So with all the Wahabi bucks floating around this country, they can't just BUY a tanker? Why alert the authorities by stealing a tanker? Was the Khobar tanker stolen? ( I really don't know...just asking...)

I reckon the FBI can't take a chance and not pay attention to this theft...just in case...however, I believe our enemies are much smarter than this alert indicates.
Posted by Quana  2004-06-02 12:19:12 AM||   2004-06-02 12:19:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Stolen stuff has a more invisible tag. But could just be Mexicanos.
Posted by Lucky 2004-06-02 12:36:41 AM||   2004-06-02 12:36:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 One way to make the Mexicans a little more responsive to our demands for them to keep their people in Mexico, threaten to seize the Mexican oil platforms in the gulf of Mexico. I think that would get there attention, and it would also pay for alot of the crap that is being ripped off from you and me as American tax payers.

I hope your right that it is just some Mexicans looking to fill there BBQ propane tanks.
Posted by Long Hair Republican  2004-06-02 12:45:45 AM||   2004-06-02 12:45:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The 'two tanker' theft senario seem very plausible, terrorists could repaint them to look like milk carriers, and in a synchronized attack, use the first to breach the limit barrier, and the second to hit the prime target directly. Be worried!!
Posted by smn  2004-06-02 12:55:49 AM||   2004-06-02 12:55:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mexicanos may be theives, who among us is not, in some way (OK back off)! But they are not jihadies, although they, criminals, can be a little cut-throat, and money makes the world go around...the world go around.

But if it is a code red...!?
Posted by Lucky 2004-06-02 1:20:59 AM||   2004-06-02 1:20:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Do not forget the 9000 gal gasoline tanker trailer stolen in New Jersey in April, and still missing.
Posted by rich woods  2004-06-02 1:27:30 AM||   2004-06-02 1:27:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank heavens we have Tom Ridge and John Ashcroft on top of their game to protect us! I'm sure WHEN the next attack happens it will be Clinton's fault
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2004-06-02 2:23:42 AM||   2004-06-02 2:23:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 a) Re: my "no worries" comment...I was being facetious and mocking the fact that our southern border is so porous, that Mexican gangs operate fearlessly between the 2 borders stealing and re-selling propane. If Mexicans are so non-plussed about border gaurds, why wouldn't Abbdullah or Mohammed try the illegal border crossing gambit, too? When the Egyptian terrorist shot up the Israeli airlines ticket counter at LAX on July 4 a couple of years ago, the FBI spokesman at first told CNN that they could not verify whether the shooter was Hispanic or Middle Eastern. There are some similar physical traits...swarthy, dark hair, brown eyes...

b) The missing propane tanks is very worrisome. Propane is very explosive when combined with oxygen. From another site, I learned that
the energy in terms of effective TNT yield for these tanks can be estimated by multiplying the number of gallons by 42. Therefore, these 2 propane tanks falling into terrorists' hands could potentially produce a 42 X 5500= 213,000 lb plus TNT explosion.

After the Oklahoma City bombing happened investigators initially suspected that a gas which was heavier than air had been added to the ventilation system.

c. Re: the Khobar propane tank bombing on June 25, 1996, the explosion killed 19 U.S. Air Force personnel and wounded 372 other people. I'm not sure if the tanker truck was stolen. My guess is yes.
Posted by rex 2004-06-02 3:37:48 AM||   2004-06-02 3:37:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 NMM - indirectly, yes. He could have had Bin Lden DEAD had he only asked. But he was too busy getting serviced in the Oval Office, and squandering the "peace bonus" (while gutting the armed forces close to 30% across the board and spending those savings on social programs).

So Yes, Bill does have a large share - we are still paying for his mistakes in the 1990's - the way the US paid for Johnson's mistakes long after he was out of office (and the Vietnamese and Cambodians paid an even higher price for the combined effects of Johnson and Nixon well after both of them were gone from office).

If you want to look at the antecedents, even Ronald the Great bore some blame for leaving Beruit on bad advice from the State Department [they gave CLinton bad advice, and now are doing the same to bush - bunglers in State need to be cleaned out]. This led to the subsequent rise of Hamas in Lebanon under Syrian guidance) instead of flattening it after the bombing there. And the Syrians were too weak and let the Iranians get in the door with a rival gang, Hezbollah.

Nasty bit of history - and its firmly against Billy Blowjob.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-02 3:42:51 AM||   2004-06-02 3:42:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Hank Hill would be very upset
Posted by Frank G  2004-06-02 9:20:33 AM||   2004-06-02 9:20:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 NMM: Thank heavens we have Tom Ridge and John Ashcroft on top of their game to protect us! I'm sure WHEN the next attack happens it will be Clinton's fault

If Clinton had killed bin Laden and other al Qaeda operatives when he had the chance (before they grew strong and well-funded), we wouldn't be fighting a War on Terror today. Ashcroft and Ridge can't prevent terror attacks - terrorists *always* have the initiative, although I suspect al Qaeda has been deterred from another attack on US soil by both Afghanistan and Iraq. Instead of gaining their political objectives, al Qaeda are now embroiled in two other costly wars - in terms of men and material - on top of the costly war they are waging in Chechnya. If there is another attack on American soil, expect another vigorous round of American operations on Muslim soil, perhaps in Iran or Syria.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-06-02 10:05:25 AM|| [http://www.polipundit.com]  2004-06-02 10:05:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Police are distributing wanted posters of a man wanted for questioning:

Posted by gromky 2004-06-02 11:44:58 AM||   2004-06-02 11:44:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 It may be time to consider placing location transponders on all bulk flammables carriers. A simple all-frequencies "squawk" beacon should activate if any tampering with the transponder itself occurs (plus engine disable, as well). It's no major invasion of privacy to make firms track the transportation of such dangerous loads. We already have this policy in place for all modern aircraft so it's not a huge leap.
Posted by Zenster 2004-06-02 12:06:06 PM||   2004-06-02 12:06:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 jeebus, nobody at Homeland Security's heard of Lo-Jack?

p.s.: Gromky watches King of the Hill too
Posted by Frank G  2004-06-02 12:18:01 PM||   2004-06-02 12:18:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Rex, All:
Illegal aliens from Mexico will stop comming when we stop hiring them and paying for their medical care! We can't have it both ways: either we pay $5.00 more to get our lawns mowed, vote to be mean to pregnant Mexican women, and suffer a major political backlash as the media screams and screams and screams.... or we just leave it alone.

Guess which one its going to be.
Posted by Secret Master  2004-06-02 1:35:21 PM|| [www.budgetwarrior.com]  2004-06-02 1:35:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm surprised Hank hasn't blamed it on some band of and I quote

"Curvey knifed rascalls"
fecit Hank Rantburg 2004
Posted by Shipman 2004-06-02 2:48:18 PM||   2004-06-02 2:48:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Ahiee Carumba, Frito Bandito,
these trucks are hotter than my
mamma's Tamales!
Better "run for the border"
(Copywrite infringement warnings to Frito Lay and Taco Bell"
Posted by Capsu78 2004-06-02 3:27:55 PM||   2004-06-02 3:27:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 
Illegal aliens from Mexico will stop comming when we stop hiring them and paying for their medical care! We can't have it both ways: either we pay $5.00 more to get our lawns mowed, vote to be mean to pregnant Mexican women, and suffer a major political backlash as the media screams and screams and screams.... or we just leave it alone.

Well quite frankly, employers aren't supposed to hire illegal aliens anyway. Maybe if the government went after those employers that don't bother checking immigration status with a little more gusto then part of the problem would be addressed, no? As for all the other stuff, it's time to get serious. Being reasonable or nice hasn't paid off, so now it's time to take off the gloves. If given the choice of leaving it alone or fighting back, I choose to fight back, regardless of the possible outcome. Better to fight and maybe lose, than to just be steamrolled without so much as a whimper.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-02 8:52:25 PM||   2004-06-02 8:52:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Seize the Mexican oil!! They can pound sand if they don't like it!!
Posted by Long Hair Republican  2004-06-02 11:41:38 PM||   2004-06-02 11:41:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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