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2004-05-11 Iraq-Jordan
Sadr’s militia less than 1,000-strong in Sadr City: US army
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Posted by ed 2004-05-11 8:04:15 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "In the heat of battle, on Sunday, the guerrillas running through the sewage-strewn streets were using "human shields", he charged. "As we were moving through we were engaged by RPG gunmen hidden behind women and children ... That’s the way the enemy fights."
Allah is proud as his fighters rely on the moral principles of the infidels to inhibit their fire. The murder of innocent people through suicide bombs guarantees martydom, but when one of the shields is a casualty, there is "rage" in the streets. Our soldiers are deterred by shields, while their intent, their goal is to murder the innocent and defenseless. It's the difference between the good guys and the bad guys. It's not that complicated, and that is what drives the so called intellectuals crazy.
Posted by Rock 2004-05-11 11:15:16 AM||   2004-05-11 11:15:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Rock, it aint politicly correct to boil it down to good guys and bad guys. That don't recognize all the subtleties of the situation. You see, them people is just poor and misunderstood, and its all cause we done it to them.

Don't worry though, you makin that simplistic argument don't drive me crazy.
Posted by Hank 2004-05-11 11:28:32 AM||   2004-05-11 11:28:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Use a human shield? Lose the top of your head - Sniper's law
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-11 11:37:12 AM||   2004-05-11 11:37:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 "In the heat of battle, on Sunday, the guerrillas running through the sewage-strewn streets were using "human shields", he charged. "As we were moving through we were engaged by RPG gunmen hidden behind women and children ... That’s the way the enemy fights."

Who cares... some guard farted in the presence of a detainee in prison.... what humiliation... we better call for Rummy's resignation over it...

Until the military can produce proof (as in pictures or videos) on these 'human shields' nobody will take these accusations seriously.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-05-11 12:26:04 PM||   2004-05-11 12:26:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Didn't al-Sadr start with 2,500 fighters, and now there is less than 100?

Hmm - 2,400 x 72 =. . . . Dang that's over 170,000 virgins!

Take no prisoners. The ones we have are causing a lot of trouble, and want to come here and be constituents of any number of Democrat Senators and Congressmen.
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-11 12:34:07 PM||   2004-05-11 12:34:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 that sadrs guys are bad guys aint complicated at all. Its how to deal with Sistani thats complicated. What to do about the fact that blasting in through Najaf can create problems for Sistani, among Iraqi Shiites who dont much like Muqty, but who dont hate him enough to want to blow up the shrine of Hussein to get him. Thats complicated.

But picking off the thugs when they raise their heads, thats dangerous work for our troops, but not politically or morally complicated, I agree. Our troops have done a good job of precision attack in Sadr City, Najaf, and Karbala. Hats off to our troops!
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-11 1:08:38 PM||   2004-05-11 1:08:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 BigEd - thats less than 100 in BAGHDAD. See what he did was move most of his fighters from Baghdad to the southern cities of Najaf, Karabala, etc. Which looks pretty damn stupid, considering his base of support is in the Shiite slums of Baghdad.

3 possibilities
1. Hes really dumb
2. He thought that once his fighters were there, all the Shiites of Najaf, Karbala, etc would rally around him - see 1.
3. He realized that even in his base the local civilians werent wild about him, and that US strategy of seperating moderates from hostiles, etc would work. Therefore he went to the holy cities where he has two advantage A. the sensitivity wrt to the mosques B. Lots of IRANIAN "pilgrims". He still left behind some fighters in Baghdad, for when the "intifada" went national. Of course it hasnt, and now our troops in Baghdad are picking off the leftovers.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-11 1:13:39 PM||   2004-05-11 1:13:39 PM|| Front Page Top

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