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2004-05-11 Britain

Hoon: British Abuse Photos Look Like Hoax

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Posted by Steve White 2004-05-11 12:13:06 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The Daily Mirror newspaper, which published the pictures and has stood staunchly by them, said that the government had not proved the pictures were fake. "Nor will we accept that they are not genuine images until incontrovertible evidence is produced to the contrary," said Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan.

What a coincidence! I will not accept those pics as real until I see incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

Posted by badanov 2004-05-11 12:22:24 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-05-11 12:22:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Seems like the liberal press is getting whacked one-by-one for making things up.

NY Times. Check!
BBC. Check!
USA Today. Check!
Daily Mirror...

And of course the idiot in charge of the LA Times has the nerve to claim Fox News had integrity problems.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-05-11 12:31:25 AM|| 2004-05-11 12:31:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 USA Today. Check!

Ya gotta be kidding! Did McPaper ever have any credibility to begin with?

Posted by Zenster 2004-05-11 1:08:34 AM|| 2004-05-11 1:08:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 ruprecht - After last year's October surprise before the recall, the LA Times needs to be "Terminated"

Wait a minute - doesn't the British soldier in the photo look exactly like a dancer in a Paul McCartney music video? What's wrong here?

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-11 1:27:17 AM|| 2004-05-11 1:27:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "'...Nor will we accept that they are not genuine images until incontrovertible evidence is produced to the contrary,' said Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan"

If Morgan's suggesting that his faith in the pictures is conditional on the production of more convincing evidence as to their authenticity, it doesn't sound as though he demanded incontrovertible evidence himself in the first place, does it? That admission pretty much sums up his attitude, and that of most of the rest of the anti-war left-wing media: We're right because we know we're right. For you to be right you need to prove we're wrong. For us, facts and accuracy are immaterial. Emperor Morgan's clothes don't look as fine as people once imagined.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-11 5:17:31 AM|| 2004-05-11 5:17:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 facts and accuracy are immaterial
It's the UK tabloid press.

Good analogy Bulldog: Emperor Morgan. I think we've more or less got the proof that the photographs were staged - I anticipate Mr Morgan's resignation forthwith... (aherm..)

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-11 6:41:29 AM|| 2004-05-11 6:41:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 It's the UK tabloid press

True, but I'm thinking in general about how the anti-war media (I include here the BBC and the left-wing rags the Independent and the Guardian) consistently spin their content to suit their anti-war agendas. Seldom (if ever) mentioning the progress that's been made in Iraq, demonising Israel, and general moral-relativism through which our national enemies can do no wrong, our allies can do no right, black is white, white is black, etc.

Morgan went from eloquent traitor to dumbass traitor when he chose to publish these pictures because he took the usual propaganda too far. The defence it doesn't matter if they're not actually genuine: similar events took place anyway which has actually been put forward by some Mirror defenders illustrates how those types do not value truth at all. Large parts of the media live a culture of lies, and are rarely called to account for it.

I wonder if, or when, the folks responsible for the pictures are going to approach the Sun to tell their stories! They must know the game'll be up sooner rather than later. Hope it's not TA, but it's looking increasingly likely. TA returnees from Iraq? I know quite a few came back disgruntled, and subsequently quit. Getting their own back on the Army, perhaps? Or maybe just motivated by the cash. I doubt that, if it was members of the TA, recent recruits were responsible, as wandering around with rifles (real or replica), posing, etc. couldn't be done under normal circumstances without the assistance of, or at least a nod and a wink from, an NCO.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-11 7:17:36 AM|| 2004-05-11 7:17:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Morgan should apologise personally to the poor Palestinian who tended the war cemetary in Gaza. The British press have always had their own agendas - or their proprietors' agendas at heart (usually Murdoch's with reference to the Times and The Sun) and have run with them often in the face of general public distaste... Remember the Sun's headline after Hillsborough? The Mirror is doing the same right now - and will only pull back when sales are dinted - hopefully soon.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-11 8:52:37 AM|| 2004-05-11 8:52:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I'd prefer to see Piers apologising to the Queens Lancashire from the back of a Bedford truck, before having his day in court as a traitor! A court from which he should be taken to a place of execution. A place at which he should be hung from his neck until he be dead!

Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-11 9:15:59 AM|| 2004-05-11 9:15:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Bulldog, what is TA? The Army?

Posted by ruprecht 2004-05-11 12:17:40 PM|| 2004-05-11 12:17:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ruprecht - the Territorial Army. Reservist volunteers who comprise approximately 25 % of the British Army's potential fighting strength. Members can volunteer to do active service individually, but they can also, in extreme circumstances, be called up to deploy as units. Effectively equivalent to your National Guard, IIUC.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-11 4:42:03 PM|| 2004-05-11 4:42:03 PM|| Front Page Top

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