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2004-04-29 Home Front: Politix
Kerry Supporters Harass & Beat Up Pro-Life Supporters
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Posted by Raj 2004-04-29 12:24:29 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Can you say kidnapping? Not to mention assault and battery.

You're just not allowed to grab people and drag them away, not matter how much you disagree with them. That's what security is for, if you can't cope with free speech by anyone but yourselves.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-04-29 1:17:38 AM||   2004-04-29 1:17:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 the LLL has become everything they claimed to hate. From stealing newspapers and screaming heretic at anyone who disagrees... they are what they believe they are fighting against.
Posted by B 2004-04-29 1:56:31 AM||   2004-04-29 1:56:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Link seems to be broken - Service Unavailable
Posted by Frank G  2004-04-29 7:47:24 AM||   2004-04-29 7:47:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.asp?ID=31761&D=4/28/2004

My comment on yesterday's posting of the same subject. I hope you're discussing the right to peaceful protest without intimidation - in which case I quite agree. However, I have no time for pro-lifers and see them as the worst type of NAZI. I believe they've been responsible for some nasty acts themselves. Ban abortion and you'll simply have the problem Irish girls have - i.e. travel to another country to have it done.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-29 8:26:37 AM||   2004-04-29 8:26:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Howard UK, didn't see it was a re-post. I think I know where you are coming from, but check out this link from a feminists' group. These women think differently about the issue and what is choice.
Posted by cingold 2004-04-29 8:47:20 AM||   2004-04-29 8:47:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Crikey, yes. Certainly a different take on it - women foribly having abortions is the dangerous flip-side. I'm sure we could rant at each other for days over this! Got to have the choice though, even if it leaves women open to bullying.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-29 8:55:42 AM||   2004-04-29 8:55:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 This gets around the Pro-life movement, which it will, and Kerry loses some votes.
Posted by Charles  2004-04-29 9:19:26 AM||   2004-04-29 9:19:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Nazis, Howard UK? Not sure what you mean. To be sure there are the loonies--ugh--in the pro-life movement, but they're fringe wackos, like in every group. There is an intelligent group that could hardly be considered a wacko, Nazi group, and is one of my favorite groups--tough bunch of ladies, those gals.

I used to be a very outspoken advocate for abortion, and all of the "rights" issues (falsely) associated with it. I've done a 180 on the issue. Some years ago, a friend of mine was doing some research at the university on abortion, and discovered some very disturbing information about the psychological downside to abortion, and that women were being seriously harmed in numerous ways by the practice.

He told me about what he was learning, and my hackles were raised. No way! That can't be true! railed I. After I finished cussing him out, I started on a three-year-long investigation of my own. It was more than a year after I had decided--from all the evidence--that abortion was about the biggest rip-off of women that has ever come about, that I even began to recognize the humanity of the fetus.

The abortion industry is big business, and if you follow the money . . .

I found out that the "mother" of abortion (and Planned Parenthood), Margaret Sanger, was into eugenics and a big fan/associate of Adolf Hitler. She wanted to rid the US of the immigrants and blacks, and saw abortion as the way to accomplish it. "Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and "purtiy"," particularly of the "Aryan" race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the "fit" to reproduce and the "unfit" to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the "inferior" races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion."

I learned about a New York City jewish doctor, Dr. Bernard Nathanson who was a former champion of abortion , and recognized it as an easy way to make a lot of money. He has since come around.

I found it enlightening, if you want to call it that, to come to understand what women go through after an abortion in their own words . Now there is so much out information there, and new thinking is taking the place of outdated, misinformed ideas about abortion Networks of women and girls are discussing the problems with abortion, instead of jumping on the bandwagon. Others also, such as liberal Nat Hentoff, of the Village Voice, have some interesting perspectives .

Of course, if you're really brave and want to deal with the issue directly, there's no escaping the reality of what abortion really is.

Since then, I've discovered that people who still hold onto the "pro-choice" tag, are either simply ignorant or misinformed, or are lazy, or prefer not to know the facts, or are trying their best to self-justify for personal reasons, or, if they are guys, they often want to keep abortion very easily accessible as a fall-back to failed birth control methods (regardless of what this does to their partner(s), or they want it around because of their own lack of responsibility regarding their sexuality (they want a "free" ride, so to speak).

The right thing to do is to educate people on the subject and let them make up their own minds. But accurate education is exactly the thing that is lacking, everywhere in the world, and the pro-choice movement is so rife with lies, (just following the money . . . ), that there's not much use getting info from them. (Starting with my links is better.)

The fact that people were assaulting pro-life supporters doesn't surprise me in the least. They will stop at nothing to suppress the truth about abortion. I know about that first-hand--"So don't any of you pro-choicers out there get me riled--I'm not an "ex-lib" for nothin' and I can talk the hind end off a mule --which is no small feat."

Hope the info helps, Howard UK, to start some thinking in new directions for you. It's not an easy issue, to be sure.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-04-29 6:31:44 PM||   2004-04-29 6:31:44 PM|| Front Page Top

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