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2004-02-29

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Posted by tipper 2004-02-29 9:37:59 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The most plausible view to take about the bulk of international law is that it is a very successful con-trick: a forged coin which many people have been duped into thinking is the real thing.

Yep, a tranzi con trick. International law for most practical purposes doesn't exist.

Posted by phil_b 2004-2-29 10:11:22 AM|| 2004-2-29 10:11:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 And all US federal laws are bogus. And all state laws are bogus. And all county and municipal laws are bogus. And all community standards are bogus. And all family rules are bogus. And all individual morals are bogus.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-2-29 10:20:39 AM|| 2004-2-29 10:20:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The war is an obvious end when a cease-fire is agreed to and then not followed.

In parallel we have now demonstrated to Mr. Kim why it is important to actually abide by treaties that you sign.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-2-29 11:58:44 AM|| 2004-2-29 11:58:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 An oldie but a goodie...

Administration Split On Europe Invasion

Washington, April 3, 1944 (Reuters)

Fissures are starting to appear in the formerly united front within the Roosevelt administration on the upcoming decision of whether, where and how to invade Europe. Some influential voices within both the Democrat and Republican parties are starting to question the wisdom of toppling Adolf Hitler's regime, and potentially destabilizing much of the region.

"It's one thing to liberate France and northwestern Europe, and teach the Germans a lesson, but invading a sovereign country and overthrowing its democratically-elected ruler would require a great deal more justification," said one well-connected former State Department official. "The President just hasn't made the case to the American people."

Indeed, some are querulous at the notion of invading France itself.

They argue, correctly, that the German-French Armistice of 1940 is a valid international treaty, and the Vichy government is widely recognized as the legitimate government of France, even by the US. (The British government doesn't recognize it, but much of that is a result of antipathy to the Germans from the Blitz.)

Under this reading, German forces are thus legally stationed in France, per the request of its government, and by all observable indications, the Vichy government is supported by the "French street." More Frenchmen serve voluntarily in the Vichy militias than join the "underground" organizations supported by foreign intelligence services like MI5 and OSS.

Posted by Gromky 2004-2-29 4:37:08 PM|| 2004-2-29 4:37:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 The war was legal. The 1st Gulf war was concluded based on performance by Saddam. He didn't comply and the UN acknowledge this and the umpteenth resolution authorized "consequense" for non compliance. I'm waiting on someone to step forward and say on page 310, para 2.3.3 of the book "International Law"......hogwash. Chiner

Posted by Chiner 2004-2-29 6:01:52 PM|| 2004-2-29 6:01:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The UN as a body represnting not the people, not the consciences but governements, most of them unelected and often quite repugnant has ZERO right to set any kind of international law. I for one, deny any authority to a body where Lybia, Chian or Iran can cahir the Human Rights Commission.

Posted by JFM 2004-2-29 6:07:18 PM|| 2004-2-29 6:07:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 The war was completely legal. We won.

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-29 8:04:13 PM|| 2004-2-29 8:04:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Tell ya what.When international law brings Kimmie,Mugabe,and Arestide up on charges then come and talk to me about international legalities.
Until then STFU.

Posted by Raptor 2004-2-29 8:20:53 PM|| 2004-2-29 8:20:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 amen Raptor. Besides, who cares if the war was legal. It's practically over. If the lawyers want to chase the ambulances - well - what's new?

Posted by B 2004-2-29 10:40:26 PM|| 2004-2-29 10:40:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Sorry Mike, Federal, State and local laws are very real, because they are regularly enforced. No enforcement, no law. As an old lefty once observed, "Power grows from the barrel of a gun."

Posted by mojo 2004-2-29 11:38:13 PM|| 2004-2-29 11:38:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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