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Posted by Super Hose 2004-01-23 8:24:52 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This sucks. I was really, REALLY looking forward to a Dean/Bush matchup this year, and now it won't happen. It's going to be Kerry, not Dean, and Kerry's about as exciting as Bob Dole was in '96.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-1-23 12:29:56 PM|| 2004-1-23 12:29:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Kerry ain't got a prayer. Edwards has the Clinton vote wrapped up - women, minorities, all non-Republicans in the South, plus all the Dean vote (no young activist will vote for grandpa Kerry). As soon as this gets out of New England, it's all over.

Posted by eyeyeye 2004-1-23 12:52:59 PM|| 2004-1-23 12:52:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I thought Edwards' candidacy was purely to cut into Dean's support among the younger crowd.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-1-23 1:07:27 PM|| 2004-1-23 1:07:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 yeah, all Edwards has to do now is actually learn how to answer a question the first time without going on about the 35 million poor kids in the country - like he cares. Maybe reading up on the marriage defense act and islam would help to.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-1-23 1:10:51 PM|| 2004-1-23 1:10:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 See, the thing is, all these guys are atleast as week and incapable as Dean. When youre watching the results from the NH primary next week,bear in mind NH went for Bush in 2000.

Clark - Get real. Since when have the modern Dems ever had anything but contempt for anyone in uniform,except for when the person in uniforms stands against the country? My rule is no matter how compelling the person is, if you havent held office somewhere in a democracy, school board, mayor, police chief, then you cant be the president. Theres just something wrong with the character of someone who wants to run for the #1 job as the first job.

The moment that clinched "loser" status for me with Clark - denigrates Lt. Kerry as 'just a low ranking officer". Somehow, he forgot about Navy Lt. Jack Kennedy, but since hes not a Democrat or experienced in Politics, thats understandable.

Lieberman - poor bastard. I actually like him, I wouldnt really have a problem with him as president, but I think he stood to close to to the Gore-bot and was exposed to too much L-ray energy to take the ring this time ( L rays - eminated by losers, leave you with a constipated stone passing voice and a clear inability to rouse your base)

Losing point captured last night when he, like a real man, stood up for the war in Iraq, but was boo-ed by his own party. If you cant run a campaign and lead your own party, you cant lead the country.

Edwards - Ok, hes from the south, and he looks good. With that qualification list, Half of the Nascar drivers could run and likely get more votes than Edwards will. What else has hes got that isnt negated by being a lawyer? Not much it seems to me. Clinton was govenor for 10 years, that seems to add up to more than a half term Senator. I put him in 'powder river' status. mile wide, inch deep.

I havent seen a loser moment out of him yet. He has taken the smart move of not banging on his own parties losers, He broke, and doesnt have a 50 state team yet, so he needs to do real well in south carolina to show any promise at all.

Kucinich-Sharpton. Heres a test case for everything that is wrong with the democrat party. The fact that these two idiots have been included in the never-ending debates shows how weak this party is. Kuchinich is the poster child for every Republican male on "Why I'm not a Democrat". Has this guy ever even kissed a girl, said a "naughty" word? If you want a totem for the pussified democrats, He's your man. Sharpton surprisingly shows more of a brain the the others all tied together. The fact that no one in the democract party can bring themselves to call him a charlatan and thief shows how much they feel they must pander to a perceived world of black people. Black folks know exactly what this guy is,thats why even in the blackest precincts in DC , they didnt vote for him.

Kerry - Every time I look at Kerry and hear him talk I know why we lost in Vietnam. He looks tired first thing in the morning. He looks like beaten draft animal. While looks arent everything words just might be. He sounds like a loser. His best moment was when one of his men ( a republican no less) from Vietnam stood up for him in Iowa. A moving moment. The President of the country cant run the country based on the past, he must lead it into the future. Where do you want to be Mr. Kerry? He hasnt got an answer for that. Kerry has been talking about Vietnam so much you'd think it happened last week. The world and the country has changed alot since then, its too bad he hasnt noticed. Whats with the nuanced "I voted for the war, but the president told me he wouldnt really attack Iraq, he lied to me!" crap. If he wants to win, he needs to say, I voted for it and I'm proud our country is standing for liberty in freedom in the world. He cant bring himself to say that, and thus, will lose. If he wants to show hes for freedom, let him go to Vietnam and sign a treaty, let him propose some level of co-operation with them. Lets have a million Vietnamese fighting to stabilize Iraq. This would A) bring some money to Vietnam b) shut some folks up real fast about "Iraq is Vietnam" c) Give 1 million Vietnamese a chance to get out.

Loser Moment - Teddy Kennedy stumping for him In Iowa. You think the Dean "scream" was a wierd moment, go look at that tape.

Posted by Frank Martin 2004-1-23 2:39:30 PM|| 2004-1-23 2:39:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Frank, good analysis. I don't recall Clark's remarks about Kerry just being a "low ranking officer". Pretty jack-ass thing to say if you ask me. Clark's one of the wimpiest looking General's I've ever seen. Definitely no Schwarzkopf or Zinni. But then again, not many officer's I've know would ever claim to have voted for Gore or Clinton.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-1-23 3:57:01 PM|| 2004-1-23 3:57:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 It was on Larry king the other night, Clark was talking to larry and Bob Dole ( himself a Veteran Lt. ) Clark was trying to make the case that he was the true "executive" in the race, since Kerry was a lower ranking officer who left the military.

Both Bob and Larry sat stunned.

Posted by Frank Martin 2004-1-23 4:02:31 PM|| 2004-1-23 4:02:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks for the info, Frank. Clark should've just left that alone. It's taboo to openly denigrate another officer's service (or highest rank attained), especially combat service and especially on t.v., what a dumbass. I'm no Kerry fan but he does deserve the proper respect for his mil record. Clark on the other hand has had some interesting comments thrown his way as to his integrity from his former boss Gen Shelton.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-1-23 4:42:35 PM|| 2004-1-23 4:42:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Thats my point. A man who had ever participated in a democracy as anything but a voter would have known that. Its easy to order people to do things when you are in a military organization and can "order" people of lower rank, convincing people to follow you willingly in a democracy is really hard. Democracy is very hard for people who dont get that. Americans are like pieces of string, they dont push worth a damn, they have to be pulled.

With Kerry, The only thing he's got going for him is his service. Its like in his Senate races where he tried to pretent he was really Irish. My problem with his service, is he plays both sides of the coin with it. He should be proud of it, but it always seems to me that he's ashamed of it.

If Kerry wants to win, He should be railing at Bush for his "unwillingness to liberate the Iranians", or "Bush is leaving the borders unprotected", not pissing around trying to get everyone to think that victory in Iraq is a failure.

Posted by Frank Martin 2004-1-23 6:07:13 PM|| 2004-1-23 6:07:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 trying to get everyone to think that victory in Iraq is a failure.
This statement illustrates why the Democrats will lose big in 2004. They don't have a plan to run the country. They don't look forward. They don't recognize success, and see a means of building on it. All they can see are talking points, and how the Democratic party has won in the past. Well, the past is dead. The rest of us are looking ahead. If the Democrats don't want to join us, they can crawl into their little spider-holes and pull the dirt in on top of them - they're toast.

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