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2003-01-24 Europe

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Posted by tu3031 2003-01-24 01:13 pm|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Thanks. I'd read this a long time ago, and wanted the link.

Posted by Ptah 2003-01-24 13:35:29|| 2003-01-24 13:35:29|| Front Page Top

#2 âI think they have been wrong on just about every major international issue for the past 20 years.â

20 years? try the last 100. For that matter ,when have they ever been right? Heres a few recent nuggets of genius from Europe.

- Herr Hitler is a man who can be reasoned with.( chamberlin 1938)

- We shall not attack the germans within germany, we will maintain our security behind the maginot line.
( French Minister of defence October 1939)

- If President Reagan puts Pershing missles in Europe, it will mean war with the soviet union.
( French Minister of Defense October 1982)

- The US cannot keep Berlin by flying in supplies, the Soviets have won.
( De gaulle 1949)

- The US will face a 'quagmire' in Afghanistan
( russian foreign minister 2001)

- US Army will serve as replacements of British troops under the command of the British Expeditionary Forces ( General Haig 1917)

- The Americans will face defeat on the beaches of france as a result of their ill advised plan for the invasion of europe
( Field Marshall Montgomery)

- The future is world socialism. Capitalism is dead. ( too many to count)

Posted by Frank Martin 2003-01-24 14:01:53|| [varifrank.blogspot.com] 2003-01-24 14:01:53|| Front Page Top

#3 This guy's probably only been in the business for 20 years, but I'm quite sure he knows the history.The amazing thing? He works at the State Department. And we thought they were all weenies.

Posted by tu3031 2003-01-24 14:08:09|| 2003-01-24 14:08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 " - The Americans will face defeat on the beaches of france as a result of their ill advised plan for the invasion of europe
( Field Marshall Montgomery) "

I haven't heard that quote - what plan was he talking about? Monty commanded the allied Normandy invasion and the actual plan was mostly his.

Posted by A 2003-01-24 18:16:20|| 2003-01-24 18:16:20|| Front Page Top

#5 I believe I read it in "Decision in Normandy: The Unwritten Story of Montgomery and the Allied Campaign."

He predicted disaster for the Americans at virtually every turn, and was a constant thorn in the side of Eisenhower. Monty - the guy famous for saying that MARKET-GARDEN was 95% a success. At one point during the war, he went so far in insulting Eisenhower that Ike demanded a written explicit apology, and go it. He also received a public rebuke from Winston Churchill, something that Monty never forgave him for.

I'm no fan of Monty, but he was a damn sight better than the guy he replaced ( General Ritchie)

Posted by Frank Martin 2003-01-24 19:17:24|| [varifrank.blogspot.com] 2003-01-24 19:17:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Ike took over command from Monty of the land battle on 1 September 1944 when the German army on the western front had virtually ceased to exit.

Ike nearly sacked Monty in the middle of the Ardennes crisis (December 1944) - the written apology you talk about - but I think you can see that Sept-Dec 1944 was not altogether a successful period.

Monty was made the scapegoat for the American humiliation in the Ardennes - but if he had been sacked think what that would have done for US-UK relations!

Posted by A 2003-01-25 04:08:58|| 2003-01-25 04:08:58|| Front Page Top

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