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#2 11b. Unfortunately, that 58,000,000 is 2,000,000 fewer than voted for McCain in 2008. The trend is heading in the wrong direction!
Posted by Chuck 2012-11-08 01:21||
#3 Obama got five million votes than in 2008, but despiterunning at a time Republicans was at an all time low MCain got 2 (other sources tell 3) million votes than Romney
1) People refusing to vote for a Mormon.
2) Ron Paul nutties. I was shocked when on elction day I saw in Fox news that Ron Paul ws telling that here was little difference between Obama and Romney. It is time you run a stack through the old fool: despite whta he seems tobeleive an isolationnist America would not lead islamofascists and ayatollahs to sing hKumbaya just as it would not hace waorked on Hitler and Tojo.
Posted by JFM 2012-11-08 02:30||
#4 JFM: That Democrats and Republicans candidates are indistinguishable is the standard party line for Libertarians, at least from what I glean from reading their websites. Some seem almost gleeful that Romney lost.
Posted by Glusoger Gruter1463 2012-11-08 06:16||
#5 I should have read this article first. One should count their blessings.
I was glad to see Tennessee mentioned. Republicans do have control of the Governor's office and the Legislature. The Legislature has a supermajority. We also have a Right-to-Work law and are fiscally responsible. We don't spend more than we have.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-08 08:48||
#6 I wish we could strengthen the 10th Amendment and weaken Washington's role in State's affairs. However, that is wishful thinking.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-08 08:51||
#7 During the primaries Mitt was never popular among Republicans. He only won by carpet bombing the opposition until he was literally the last man standing. As a result of Mitt's carpet bombing, Republican turnout in primaries went down.
Mitt is a decent, moral man -- with very little daylight between his positions and Obama's. That, right there, is a central issue. We need to offer a real choice, not a watered down version of the same thing (or in Mitt's case on Climate Change and other major issues, exactly the same thing).
Since 2010 the GOP establishment has been at war with the Tea Party. People like Dick Luger, Boehner, Mitch McConnell, etc. would much rather be in the minority than kicked out of office by us unwashed masses. From their standpoint, Tuesday was a huge win (except Luger, may he rot in Hell).
They will try the same thing in 2014 and 2016. Between then and now, the Tea Party types need to take control of the party, even if it means losing seats. Otherwise we can look forward to losing again and again, and being blamed each time for it.
Posted by Iblis 2012-11-08 14:47||
#8 I'm generally a libertarian at the state level (I also look at their gun credentials, though most libertarians are pro-gun). Nat'l level - I vote (R) - I've never voted (D) for pres or senate and never will. That said, I can vouch that some of my friends who might have went Romney voted for Ron Johnson in MI & Ohio.
Posted by Broadhead6 2012-11-08 16:19||
#9 Oh yeah, let me qualify something I did vote Perot way back when because I thought Bush Sr was weak and Dole was country club...and I hated clinton...(ah, youthful zeal & naievity on my part for voting indy those times)
Posted by Broadhead6 2012-11-08 16:22||
#10 Posted by: Iblis 2012-11-08 14:47 Mitt is a decent, moral man -- with very little daylight between his positions and Obama's.
Could you please go a little more deeper on the no differences, cause I saw and heard lots of difference with major issues, and I keep reading and hearing that -- little help would be welcomed.
For me, some difference and leaving out Obamacare 'cause they hung him on that one:
Marriage between man and woman
Reform the tax codes
Remove government regulations that are strangling businesses.
Drill, baby drill
Will be Israel's best friend.
Oh and I forget, he wants to kill Big Bird, put women in binders, and vote for love of country, not for revenge.
Enlighten me please.
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-08 17:42||
You are looking at campaign promises. I am focussing on what Romney did in his 4 miserable years as governor vs Champ's 4 miserable years as president. The similarities are disturbing at best, right down to hiring the exact same advisors in some cases.
Posted by Iblis 2012-11-08 18:05||
#12 If the election of 2010 energized the TEA Party folks, the election of 2012 showed they would never be accepted by the deeply-entrenched Rethuglycons that control the party at the very top. Time to quit supporting them and go off on our own. No more money, no more support, and no more campaigning for anyone but TEA Party people. There isn't enough room between the upper-level Rethuglycons and Dummycheats (they all want more government, more control, more power for themselves, and screw the little people) for a single photon to get through. It's time for the TEA Party to start running candidates that are independent of both the other parties.
#13 Posted by: Iblis 2012-11-08 18:05
to Sherry --
That's good, but I haven't lived in MA -- so I still don't know any specifics. That's not helping me..... give me three things Romney did that is the same as Obama (Romneycare doesn't count)
And who are the people they both hired?
That's what I'm asking --- specifics, you gave me the same generalities as "campaign promises."
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-08 20:38||
#14 Why does ObamaCare not count?
I'm on my mobile so the list won't be complete, but you can start with John Holdren, assault weapons ban and higher taxes. Mitt raised taxes in the form of fees, but it amounts to the same thing. He was also pro-choice and pro gay rights, though he denies it now.
I worked on his '94 Senate campaign. Do a search for my comments here over the summer. Mitt has always been nothing but heartbreak for conservatives.
Posted by Iblis 2012-11-08 21:06||
#15 Posted by: Iblis 2012-11-08 18:05
Thanks for your direction -- I'll do some looking -- but would like to continue the conversation....
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-08 21:43||
#16 And Iblis the Romneycare isn't counted, cause Obama did a good job, convincingly, painting Romney as the grandfather of his plan...
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-08 21:45||
Fair enough. Some more names for you:
Jon Gruber, Jon Kingsdale, and John McDonough all worked on Romneycare and were consulted by Obama on Obamacare.