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2007-10-23 Europe

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Posted by Mike 2007-10-23 12:32|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 IN other words, VDH thinks we need to be prepared to get out of Turkey and treat them as the enemy they have become, and then look out for a civil war that will break Turkey apart.

I've been saying that for a while. Nice to have someone like VDH on my side of things.

Step 1: keep the Turks out of Iraq. That means deploy US forces opposite of them on the N Iraqi border. NOW.

Come on Bush, wake up before its too late!

Posted by OldSpook 2007-10-23 12:53|| 2007-10-23 12:53|| Front Page Top

#2 The best way to convince Turkey they are playing with fire is to give up our airbase in Turkey and replace it with a similar base in Kurdistan.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-10-23 13:46|| 2007-10-23 13:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Lots of NSA equipment we should be relocating as well as a big air base.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-23 13:53|| 2007-10-23 13:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Not an expert on Turkey, but break-apart. Beyond the Turk/Kurd rift are there any other potential pieces? Beyond historical connections does the Bosporus have any real connection to Greece anymore?

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-23 14:07|| 2007-10-23 14:07|| Front Page Top

#5 abandon facilities inside Turkey, and seek closer relations with Armenia, Kurdistan, Greece, Cyprus, and other regional neighbors.

Note how all four of those countries have Christian populations. One of them, Armenia, is possibly the oldest Christian nation on earth. While Turkey does indeed have a Christian population they are little better than Iraq, more likely worse, in how they continue to repress this peaceful religious constituency.

America would do well to begin assembling a coalition of Christian, or even better, non-Muslim nations with the intent of halting Islamic encroachment and opression from spreading further. While, as Wafa Sultan notes, this is not merely a clash of religions or even civilizations, there currently remain few stronger rallying points than that of religious freedom. Islam's flagrant lack of reciprocity with respect to religious freedom is so glaring and blatant as to represent an ideal lever with which to pry away its erstwhile allies. We must construct a united front against Islam's rising storm and fighting religious oppression is an ideal platform upon which to establish that bulwark.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-23 14:34|| 2007-10-23 14:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Zenster, US bases in Cyprus and Armenia, in addition to a new permanent facility near Kirkuk (as well as the new bases in Romania) would be more than anough to replace Incirlik.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-10-23 18:22|| 2007-10-23 18:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Problem with Armenia is 1) they constantly try to fight out of their weight class and 2) they're playing kissy-face with Iran (so as to put down the Azeris).

The Greeks don't like us much more than the Turks. Cyprus will do whatever Greece tells them to do. The Kurds are not in the best of positions.

And Prof. Hansen, that's about it for the 'neighbors'.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-10-23 18:36|| 2007-10-23 18:36|| Front Page Top

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