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2018-10-18 -Land of the Free
Trump threatens to use military to close Mexican border, as migrant caravan approaches
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Posted by Skidmark 2018-10-18 09:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 I think Mexico will see the fun's over and stop these invasions
Posted by Frank G 2018-10-18 10:38||   2018-10-18 10:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Protecting the sovereignty of the US and and specifically CONUS is the first responsibility of the military. You may not like the job, but fretting away resources elsewhere while ignoring this one undermines your rationale to exist.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-10-18 10:39||   2018-10-18 10:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Throw lots of land mines down while you're at it.
Posted by Raj 2018-10-18 10:50||   2018-10-18 10:50|| Front Page Top

#4 Could make for an interesting court case. Does Posse Comitatus apply to US military interacting with non-US citizens on US soil?
Posted by M. Murcek 2018-10-18 10:59||   2018-10-18 10:59|| Front Page Top

#5 In the National Guard, it depends on whether you are Title 10 activated or not. Posse Comitatus applies when its a Title 10 (Federal) activation. But dual or State activation PC does not apply, and Guard can do law enforcement - which is what happened during Katrina, with out of state Guard units carrying live rounds and patrolling for looters.

But Posse Comitatus only applies to enforcement of "Domestic" laws, so, arguably, border security is "international", not domestic. There is precedent: Exceptions exist for the Enforcement of federal law at the discretion of the President of the United States, such as with the 101st Airborne Division by President Dwight D. Eisenhower to integrate Little Rock Central High School in 1957, and for ISR activity for the DEA, DHS and counterterr activity.

Posted by Boss Spoper5850 2018-10-18 11:58||   2018-10-18 11:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Then there's the whole "all enemies, foreign and domestic" part of the oath...
Posted by Boss Spoper5850 2018-10-18 12:00||   2018-10-18 12:00|| Front Page Top

#7 A workaround would be to have an ICE agent, or a local LEO, or a state-activated Guardsman, embedded in the regular military units, who would then serve as the non-federal-military authority whom the active duty military is "assisting".
Posted by Boss Spoper5850 2018-10-18 12:04||   2018-10-18 12:04|| Front Page Top

#8 How about we go with #7 starting tomorrow morning after chow ?
Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-18 12:08||   2018-10-18 12:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Later, we can get to "all enemies, foreign and bureaucratic".
Posted by SteveS 2018-10-18 12:27||   2018-10-18 12:27|| Front Page Top

#10  Protecting the sovereignty of the US and and specifically CONUS is so very un-PC. Also RACIS!!!
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2018-10-18 12:45||   2018-10-18 12:45|| Front Page Top

#11 How about we go with #7 starting tomorrow morning after chow ?

See Sicario

Life is a movie.
Posted by Skidmark 2018-10-18 14:47||   2018-10-18 14:47|| Front Page Top

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