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2012-09-17 Europe

Secretly recorded POWs revealed worst Nazi atrocities

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Posted by ryuge 2012-09-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 It reads as a chilling examination of how war changes man

I could only suggest replacing "examination" with the word reminder along with the simple rejoiner, barbarism is not the exclusive domain of the Nazi.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-09-17 04:44|| 2012-09-17 04:44|| Front Page Top

#2 we were not angels, but the least of the ugliest.

Posted by texhooey 2012-09-17 05:17|| 2012-09-17 05:17|| Front Page Top

#3 It reads as a chilling examination of how war changes man

No, no and no. When their comanders make them clear that some actions will make soldiers shot, when they know their comrades will loath their actions and report or even frag them then there will be few atrocities.

But when, like the Wehrmacht in Russia, high command implicitly allows rape of women, murder of civilians or prisoners, when the soldier has been told he is a an ûbermensch who can do what pleases him to untemenschen, when he nows hos comrades share these thesis and will support him then you have what the Wehrmacht (all of it not only the SS) did in Russia

And if you want to know why the Russians after massively surrendering in 1941, fought like devils at Stalingrad despite a life expectancy of mere hours it is because they had seen first hand what the Germans had done and because they were being told of articles in the German press telling of future market slaves where robust Russains would be sold for agricultural work and the prettiest girls would be sold to Hamburg's brothels. These articles were not fakes manufactured by Red Army's political comissars, they were authentic and published in publicaklly sold newspapers. When such papers are sold without scandal then don't wonder about war crimes since an Army is the mirror of the country who fields it.

About the massive rapes perpetrated by the Red Army in Germany it was not merely vengeance: "Krasnaia Sviezda" the Red Army's journal was running articles inviting soldiers to "break the racial pride of the German woman". Again it was no accident and again it was not "war changes man". It is some armies who change man, not war

(1) Former soldier Heinrich Boll, writes in "Portrait of a group with Dame", about a column of Soviet POWs marched without food and water, a five years old girl is sent by her parents tries to bring them some. No warnings, no tries to restrain her, no attempts to frighten her, no nothing: Bang, Bang, Bang. Five years old dead.

Posted by JFM 2012-09-17 07:26|| 2012-09-17 07:26|| Front Page Top

#4 My mother-in-law is a survivor of the holocaust. She lived in Poland. Her father and mother and four of her siblings were murdered. The children who were murdered were but children--not even teens. Similarly for my father-in-law, he lost his mother and father and others in his family. They were shuttled around to various concentration camps during the war until they were liberated by American soldiers. She still keeps in touch with one of these soldiers and feels a deep debt of gratitude to the Americans.

My background is Catholic and Irish and I never had much knowledge of the holocaust except through newsreels as a kid. However, I can remember being shocked as a kid upon seeing newsreels of showing bodies of people in concentration camps stacked like so much cord wood while others ended up as ashes in huge ovens.

I wouldn't expect much better from the islamists than the Nazis.

Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-17 09:23|| 2012-09-17 09:23|| Front Page Top

#5 You should Google the English translation of the speech Hitler made to the German nation when he declared war on America publicly 12/11/1941, even though he declared war on America privately on 9/11 of that year.

He lied through his teeth almost as bad as Obama lies now. Only Hitler was, at that time, 8 years after being in power, much more militant in his speeches than Obama is at the moment.

Posted by Dino Prince of the Poles3605 2012-09-17 23:14|| 2012-09-17 23:14|| Front Page Top

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