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2011-09-17 The Grand Turk

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Posted by tipper 2011-09-17 03:32|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Had this one yesterday.

Posted by gromky 2011-09-17 05:55|| 2011-09-17 05:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Erdogan just might.

This all goes back to the 19th C and Turkey as the 'Sick man of Europe'.

Ataturk's 80 years of secularism may just prove to be an interlude in the Long Game.

Posted by phil_b 2011-09-17 08:55|| 2011-09-17 08:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Yep. This could kick off all the old feuds from centuries ago from the Caucasus to North Africa, even including Greece via Cyprus.

What happens if war breaks out between two NATO members?

Posted by AlanC 2011-09-17 09:49|| 2011-09-17 09:49|| Front Page Top

#4 What happens if war breaks out between two NATO members?...

Easy. Just kick Turkey out of NATO. Cold war is over.

Posted by Hupailing Ebbuns 2011-09-17 10:53|| 2011-09-17 10:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Easy for us HE, but what will the Won do?

Posted by AlanC 2011-09-17 11:46|| 2011-09-17 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, Turkey would be part of the Med Union, so north and east EU vs. Med EU+north africa w/ arid league support?

At least, my first thought when I heard MU, fortunately just a trade idea right....right?

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-09-17 12:04|| 2011-09-17 12:04|| Front Page Top

#7 Easy for us HE, but what will the Won do?

Considering Ogabe, this probably provides a VERY good hint. Like the wise man said, "history doesn't always repeat itself, but it often rhymes."

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2011-09-17 12:27|| 2011-09-17 12:27|| Front Page Top

#8 An important note is that the ethnic Turkish birthrate has dropped "below replacement", European style, but the Kurdish birthrate is still high, at 3-6 children per family.

This means that while right now, about 70-75% of the population are Turkish, and only 18% are Kurds, in a few generations they will be much closer to parity.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-09-17 12:49|| 2011-09-17 12:49|| Front Page Top

#9 The important thing is to remember Iranian nuke program, and not getting distracted by some idiot.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-09-17 13:01|| 2011-09-17 13:01|| Front Page Top

#10 A Kurdush Turkey might be an improvement.

Posted by Iblis 2011-09-17 18:33|| 2011-09-17 18:33|| Front Page Top

#11 not a PKK Kurdish Turkey.

Posted by Frank G 2011-09-17 18:34|| 2011-09-17 18:34|| Front Page Top

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