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2005-09-11 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Captain America 2005-09-11 13:42|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 My thinking is that China believes the GWOT faces a dark future and they got millions of bucks that say it will have a gloomy future.

And the Chinese are running the Kos playbook step by step.

Posted by badanov 2005-09-11 13:53|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2005-09-11 13:53|| Front Page Top

#2 And they're working to cut off our supply lines to Afghanistan at the same time they're saying all of this and pretending everything that's happened just happened on its own.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-09-11 14:25|| 2005-09-11 14:25|| Front Page Top

#3 When China becomes a "Republic of China" instead of a "People's Republic of China", I'll take her news agencies' editorials seriously. Besides, what is wrong with a "fierce power struggle among the political parties"? China would be better off for one herself.

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2005-09-11 16:43|| 2005-09-11 16:43|| Front Page Top

#4 The Chinese perspective is that the War on Terror involves a war on Chinese separatists. Because Taiwan remains independent, the WOT is being lost. Because separatists in Tibet and Xinjiang remain active, the WOT is being lost. From the Chinese standpoint, the WOT will never be won until they get what they want from Uncle Sam - the Chinese annexation of Taiwan and the dropping of American support for Tibetan and Uighur separatism.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-11 17:16|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-09-11 17:16|| Front Page Top

#5 What about Mongolia? Is that now a dead issue, or do they want that back, too?

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-09-11 19:59|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-09-11 19:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Jackal: What about Mongolia? Is that now a dead issue, or do they want that back, too?

At the popular level, they want a really large amount of territory back. Burma, Vietnam, Mongolia, Tibet and Korea used to be tributary states. Siberia used to be the domain of the Manchurian empire. Arunachal Pradesh, an Indian state, is basically the southern part of Tibet that the British empire wrested from Tibetan rule. Sikkim was a Tibetan tributary state. It's a really, really long list. When the Chinese economy and military grow strong enough - China may make its move. This isn't a top-down thing - it's a bottom-up kind of sentiment - the Chinese view is that any territory wrested from Chinese rule during its period of weakness (after a series of military defeats) must be taken back.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-11 20:19|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-09-11 20:19|| Front Page Top

#7 any territory wrested from Chinese rule during its period of weakness ... must be taken back.

Boy, that sure sounds like someone else, doesn't it?

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-09-11 22:04|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-09-11 22:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Jackal: Boy, that sure sounds like someone else, doesn't it?

These are the sentiments of big chunks of the Chinese populace. There's no real racial animus in the sense of the Nazi ideology - just an enduring sense of unavenged humiliations and a sense that these territories will be recovered when the time is ripe, at as little cost as possible. China's wars in the last 200 years have been an exception - it has used the grit of its fighting men and its numbers to make up for technological deficiencies. Prior to that, China typically had superior technology and has always been averse to losing men, for two reasons - (1) Chinese strategic thought has always emphasized economy of force, meaning victories with as few losses as possible and (2) men (typically conscripts) lost on the battlefield could have been working and generating tax revenues for the state.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-11 22:20|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-09-11 22:20|| Front Page Top

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