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2007-09-05 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Loss of Arctic ice leaves experts stunned

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Posted by lotp 2007-09-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 1. There are Ice Ages

2. Then there is Global Warming

3. Then there is another Ice Age

Still confused?

Posted by McZoid 2007-09-05 02:02|| 2007-09-05 02:02|| Front Page Top

#2 "Different place ...within our childrens' lifetimes" > MADONNA's "League of Their Own" -"This used to be my playground ...Used to be the place I ran to ..."etc. Another place in [future] past time???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-05 02:17|| 2007-09-05 02:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Looks like I better go kill my pet moose.

Posted by gorb 2007-09-05 03:02|| 2007-09-05 03:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Interesting information. I wonder how long it's been since this has occurred before?

All the pollution in the rivers of China pouring tio the ocean are acting as an anti-freeze in the Arctic. (See you can blame it on US consumers for you are nuts enough.)

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-09-05 03:40|| 2007-09-05 03:40|| Front Page Top

#5 And if the global warming predicted by the "Hockey Stick" continues, all the water in the oceans will be vaporized by 2312 and the land will be molten by 2793!

Get your carbon indulgences here!

Posted by A. Gore 2007-09-05 06:01|| 2007-09-05 06:01|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder how long it's been since this has occurred before?

1930-1945 saw higher arctic temps: 1880-2004 Artic Temps

What is different this time is the Asian Pollution Cloud from primarily unscrubbed Chinese power and industrial plants, and to a smaller extent India and Indonesian fires. Contrast the small fraction of man made CO2 as a fraction of total CO2 vs. the amount of light absorbing soot deposited on snow vs. just 50 years ago.

Dirty snow may warm Arctic as much as greenhouse gases
In the past two centuries, the Arctic has warmed about 1.6 degrees. Dirty snow caused .5 to 1.5 degrees of warming, or up to 94 percent of the observed change, the scientists determined.

So in a way, it is America's fault. Without the $300 billion/year purchases from China and the wholesale transfer of the US industrial base to unregulated China, the particulate emissions have increased many times.

Posted by ed 2007-09-05 07:33|| 2007-09-05 07:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Except it's not true. Experts would be even more stunned if they went to try it out.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-05 09:16|| 2007-09-05 09:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Thing is they are very specifically talking about Sea Ice rather than land glaciers on Greenland and Antarctica which have grown.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-05 10:36|| 2007-09-05 10:36|| Front Page Top

#9 gorb: Whoa! Totally uncool. (Belch). Maybe I'll cut back on the Mexican food and beer and all. (Fraaap)

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-09-05 10:41|| 2007-09-05 10:41|| Front Page Top

#10 If ALL the sea ice melted, it would not raise the sea level one millimeter. The glaciers on Greenland and Antartica are a different matter, but as rjschwarz pointed out, they are increasing.

Posted by Rambler">Rambler 2007-09-05 10:47|| 2007-09-05 10:47|| Front Page Top

#11 The "Experts" really are that expert, now are they?

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-09-05 13:09|| 2007-09-05 13:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Unfortunately for the greens,

"The horror of slightly warmer Arctic winters is upon us."

will not get too many people riled up besides the fanatics

Posted by mhw">mhw 2007-09-05 13:13|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-09-05 13:13|| Front Page Top

#13 At least now I know where to plan my summer vaction in 2030.

Maybe the time has come for the "experts" to admit that they have no f*cking clue why these global changes are occurring, how fast they will progress or what to do about them.

Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-09-05 13:26|| 2007-09-05 13:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Then how come that Brit in his canoe has to have the Canadians run an ice breaker through the floes for him since he is stuck by all the ice?

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-09-05 15:57|| 2007-09-05 15:57|| Front Page Top

#15 And now ANTARCTIC Ice is at record HIGH in terms of rate of accumulation.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-09-05 16:34|| 2007-09-05 16:34|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm starting to worry about the coming flip of the magnetic poles. I hope the Greens will soon devise a plan by which us little people can help keep the compasses working.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-05 16:43|| 2007-09-05 16:43|| Front Page Top

#17 TW you got that right. I'm a figgering that we'll get one of those magnetic shifts that create more than one set of poles like I saw on the Discovery Channel.

Kinda does a number on the Van Allen belts and lets in all kinds of nasty radiation. Then we'll see REAL glowball warming.

Posted by AlanC 2007-09-05 16:57|| 2007-09-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#18 Whoa! Totally uncool. (Belch).

Sorry, Anonymoose, but it's either you or me, and I have the opposable thumb! However if you will just change your diet, you may be carbon-neutral enough that you won't be a problem. :-)

Posted by gorb 2007-09-05 17:02|| 2007-09-05 17:02|| Front Page Top

#19 Loss of Arctic ice leaves experts stunned

Well, tag 'em before they wake up!

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-09-05 17:22|| 2007-09-05 17:22|| Front Page Top

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