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2009-09-04 Home Front: Culture Wars
Parents of Christian convert deny threat allegations
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Posted by ryuge 2009-09-04 08:20|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Anyone else get the feeling that this doesn't make sense, and that there is a lot more to the story? If the father threatened to kill the daughter, why did she go to a rather radical sounding church in Florida instead of the police? Are/were the Columbus police likely to throw her back into a life-threatening situation? (dalmer comes to mind here.)
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2009-09-04 08:47||   2009-09-04 08:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Whiskey Mike: Well, if I had to choose where to go for protection, the police or a religious group, my choice would be the latter...do you think that the PC indoctrinated police understand that a father is capable of killing a daughter for such things?
Posted by HammerHead 2009-09-04 09:43||   2009-09-04 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 If they don't recognize the situation as dangerous, then yes they would send her back.

As for the on-line connection, on-line contact is considerably less intimidating that walking into a building, and less likely to be noticed by parents.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-09-04 09:47||   2009-09-04 09:47|| Front Page Top

#4 What she did was very smart. The police would be neutral in the deal, but the religious people would advocate for her. And across State lines, any good lawyer should be able to run the clock out for a year.

The worst threat she faces is if some organization like CAIR leans on a politician to do an Elian Gonzalez, in exchange for support by Muslims. But being in a different State makes that very unlikely.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-09-04 09:55||   2009-09-04 09:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, and once she is 18, if her family or others in her mosque do anything to try and get to her, she will need to go the equivalent of witness protection.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-09-04 09:57||   2009-09-04 09:57|| Front Page Top

#6 The police would not have protected her, they would have referred her to juvenile authorities. A social worker would then have investigated. She might have been put into a foster home or group juvenile home for a period of time, but if the parents parroted said the right things, she would have been required to return to them.

And then she would have accidentally fallen on a kitchen knife.

Whereas, getting away from the home to another state is pretty smart -- now the Florida juvenile authorities are involved, and any time you get more bureaucrats involved, the slower things are going to move, as witnessed. That's smart if her goal is to run out the clock.

Just wondering why she didn't try to get the court to declare her an emancipated minor.
Posted by Steve White 2009-09-04 10:53||   2009-09-04 10:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Whiskey Mike,
Atlas Shrugs has been commenting on this issue extensively.

Apparently the girl had been beaten on many ocasions and had the bruises to prove it. This HAD been referred to the juvinile authorities several times, and they sent here back to her parents.

My take on this is that it is a fairly conventional parental physical abuse case. The only complication seems to be that the Ohio child protective services are afraid to appear "culturally insensitive" and are thoroughly intimidated by the Muslim Thing.

As for the "Kooky Christian Sect", the girl does not seem particullarly attached to it. The only reason she went there was because she and some members had exchanged emails. They were the only people she knew outside the state of Ohio.
Posted by Frozen Al 2009-09-04 11:42||   2009-09-04 11:42|| Front Page Top

#8 as a minor, and against her father's wishes, she would have had the full support and protection of the state if she was just trying to get an abortion
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-09-04 12:25||   2009-09-04 12:25|| Front Page Top

#9 I suspect Frozan Al is onto something. She's 17 and desparate to get out of the situation she was in and this option was what she felt was best.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-09-04 12:40||   2009-09-04 12:40|| Front Page Top

#10 I read this as she's highly intelligent to have figured out to set one religion against another fir her own safety,
Most 17 year olds don't have this quality of reasoning available in their heads, most would simply die and be unnoticed.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-09-04 12:49||   2009-09-04 12:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Thank you all. Atlas Shrugged does have a lot of info. I am glad she got away alive.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2009-09-04 13:30||   2009-09-04 13:30|| Front Page Top

#12 If she didn't come from a Moslem family there wouldn't be any question. A 17 year old can declare herself emacipiated from her family for virtually any reason. If your or my kid can do this for reasons of incompatibility why can't she? Religious discrimination fueled by fear.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-09-04 15:51||   2009-09-04 15:51|| Front Page Top

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