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2006-08-24 India-Pakistan

Pakistan is a bigger threat than Hezbollah: Shlomo Ben Ami

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Posted by john 2006-08-24 06:50|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sunni terrorism is run in Pakistan funded by Saudi

Shiite terrorim is run by the Hezbollah funded by Syria and Iran.

Countries that need sorting imo in order-
1.Iran
2.Pakistan.
3.Saudi
4.Syria

Posted by Cheregum Crelet7867 2006-08-24 07:12|| 2006-08-24 07:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Preferring secular dictatorship to unstable Islamic democracy, he said democracy itself need not be the solution for problems. Instead, in many places, it created more problems.

"Iraq is the best example of this. The former government was any day better than the so-called Shiite Republic," he said.

Such thinking is why the gentleman is not in the current government, nor likely ever to be. From Israel's perspective, the current situation in Iraq is infinitely preferable to Saddam Hussein. The jostling for power and the fight against Baathist, Al Qaeda, relfious and tribal irregulars keep the Iraqi government far from the financing and training of Palestinian terrorist and suicide bombers aimed at Israel. Stable Arab despots have the energy and funds to finance anti-Israel terror groups, and to educate their own people in anti-Jew hatred as a distraction from their own powerlessness in daily life. Unlike Lebanon, which is a special case as a more-or-less province of Syria, Iraq is much too busy with its internal concerns to spare more than token words for Israel.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-24 09:19|| 2006-08-24 09:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Dork

Posted by gromgoru 2006-08-24 09:36|| 2006-08-24 09:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Ben Ami, who was also Israel's chief negotiator at the Camp David Summit in 2000

Game, set, match.

Posted by Choluque Gluns1303 2006-08-24 10:00|| 2006-08-24 10:00|| Front Page Top

#5 1. I think Pakistan is not as imminent a threat as Iran, despite its current nuclear arsenal, for obvious political reasons. If I was an Israeli visiting India, I might well want to emphasize the threat to Israel from Pakistan.

2. the CURRENT situation may well be better than the Saddamite regime - the current regime is NOT a Shiite republic, per se. Yet. Its not clear to me if Ben Ami was claiming it was. Whether a Sadrist Republic would be better or worse than a Saddamite tyranny, from the Israeli POV, is debatable. Even if Ben Ami is wrong on this (and for now I lean to the view he is - but thats cause i retain some optimism aboutthe outcome in Iraq) hes not off in lululand - his view is not unreasonable.

3. The real debate on arab democracy for Israel now, is wrt to Syria. Is Israel better off losing Baby Assad, and getting a regime with at minimum a strong Muslim brotherhood element? Debatable.

4. It was hardly Ben Ami's fault that when Israel made a reasonable offer at Camp David, Arafat rejected it. Even some of Arafats own aides were apparently shocked at the flat out rejection - you can hardly expect the Israelis to have judged Arafat better than his own people did. And I would suggest that while the generous offer didnt help nearly as much as it should have in garnering euro support for Israel in the conflict that then ensued, it certainly helped in solidifying US support.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-24 10:21|| 2006-08-24 10:21|| Front Page Top

#6 "Iraq is the best example of this. The former government was any day better than the so-called Shiite Republic," he said.

For someone who should be keenly aware of the Holocaust, I'd like to see this nit say this over any of the hundreds of mass graves being dug up in Iraq. Yes, the midnight knock on the door is now transformed into a roadside IED. Believe it or not, this is better. Instead of a brutal tyrant silently eliminating scores of dubious opponents on a whim, instead, we now have the more instructive spectacle of Muslim on Muslim violence being exposed for this world to see.

If this planet's population cannot absorb the critical lesson of how fiercly Muslims are willing to slaughter each other, there is no hope for us learning what will come next (i.e., Global Cultural Genocide).

A quick glance at the dog's breakfast called the Palestinian Terrortories shows the net result of democracy being perverted by theocracy, namely, mayhem. This is no fault of democray, neither in Gaza and the West Bank, nor in Iraq. This is what happens when leadership marches under the false flag of democracy in pursuit of an undemocratic ulterior agenda.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-24 18:19|| 2006-08-24 18:19|| Front Page Top

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