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2005-08-12 China-Japan-Koreas
600-Year-old Warship Found In East China
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Posted by Pappy 2005-08-12 00:22|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 During the excavation of the ship some 20 years ago, a second ancient ship was found. But archaeologists buried it up again because half of the ship was covered by a local home.

It's a sad day when China has more respect for private property than the United States Supreme Court does.
Posted by Chris W.">Chris W.  2005-08-12 01:41||   2005-08-12 01:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Hopefully, the lot will be added to, in the future!
Posted by smn 2005-08-12 02:56||   2005-08-12 02:56|| Front Page Top

#3 This brings up an interesting and, to me, alarming facet of the Supreme Court Kelo decision. There have been several court cases over the years pitting developers against Civil War Battlefield preservationists. I gues with the Kelo decision the developers can now get the local governments to condem any property in question regardless of the historic significance purely for the purpose of increased tax revenue. I'm not a rabid preservationist but some sites that are endangered need to be preserved. It will be very interesting to see how any preservation case plays out. IMHO, it looks like the preservationists will lose.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-08-12 07:39||   2005-08-12 07:39|| Front Page Top

#4 DB: That's just another "sign and portent" of what I'm beginning to believe will be a 2nd Civil War here in the States. If these solutions don't come about through elections (and, thus, judicial nominees who read the Constitution as it's written, not as they would've written it), it may very well come to another war. I, for one, was born and raised here in the South, tried to deny my "Southern-ness" (i.e. redneck-ness) for a long time before I've truly come to believe there are many traits we should admire here. I've never set foot on a Civil War battlefield, and, personally, think those guys are sometimes overboard...BUT, they take this seriously. Of course, many of the developers around here are "good ole' boyz" too, so I imagine it may be a while before they try to get the local gov't to condemn the properties in question (Civil War battlefields, etc.).
Posted by BA 2005-08-12 07:56||   2005-08-12 07:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Ba, I singled out Civil War Battlefields because they have been in some of the news lately but they are by no means the only historic sites endangered. Waaaaay back in the mid '70s when I was at Auburn University Magnolia Avenue was almost all residential on one side as the University takes up the other side. When Mcdonalds wanted to build a restaurant on Magnolia they got the city to condem two of the houses, they wanted a third but it is listed on the National Register of Historic Sites. It was the home of an Auburn Physicist who was a very important part of the discoveries in physics in the 1920's and 30s. I can't remember his name, dammit, but my point is there was a big outcry about allowing a McDonalds into a residential area and that if the house had not been on the Register it would have been destroyed. The city Council ignored the public wishes and rezoned the land and condemed it anyway. In light of the Kelo decision I believe we will lose a lot more of our historical heretige.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-08-12 09:27||   2005-08-12 09:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Good points, DB, and I didn't assume you mean just Civil War sites. Funny story I have at that very McDonald's you talk about. One day a buddy and I were crossing Magnolia to go to class (we parked behind the McDonald's in a dirt lot to keep from paying on campus..plus it was right across the street from our Engineering building). Anyways, we were waiting for traffic to clear, when we saw these 2 girls in a car look at us, smile and then start laughing. Driver was looking so hard that she ran into the back of the car in front of her (who slowed down to turn into McD's), RIGHT in front of us. I was all worried, wanted to help these ladies out, and my buddy turned to me and said "I hate it when that happens." I just burst out laughing (especially knowing they were checking out 2 nerdy future engineers) and we just crossed to go to class.
Posted by BA 2005-08-12 09:40||   2005-08-12 09:40|| Front Page Top

#7 Yuan is the Mongol Occupation. Wonder if this is one of the constructions for either of the two invasion fleets that were sent to Japan.
Posted by Glolurt Spomolet6046 2005-08-12 10:10||   2005-08-12 10:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Wow, that would be really something! a ship from the time period of the Mongol Invasion!
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-08-12 17:05||   2005-08-12 17:05|| Front Page Top

#9 Trying to get my mind around the concept of Auburn and physics.... :)

By the way DB the dills are awesome.
Posted by Shipman 2005-08-12 20:02||   2005-08-12 20:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Careful, now, or you won't get any more pickles. Glad you like them.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-08-12 21:36||   2005-08-12 21:36|| Front Page Top

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