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2014-07-21 Europe
Most Bodies Recovered from MH17, Downed Over Ukraine
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Posted by Fred 2014-07-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Hello there all, hello Old Spook...

Vis a vis getting rid of Putin.

I don't see how icing Putin is much different to icing Osama Bin Laden? One is a crime boss at the head of a state, the other a crime boss at the head of a religious transnational body. The only real difference seems to be one of geographic borders. Putin is responsible for a war crime, why can't he just go down?
Posted by Anon1 2014-07-21 00:30||   2014-07-21 00:30|| Front Page Top

#2 The CIA never managed to assassinate Fidel Castro, Anon1. How do you think they'd fare, trying to get past the KGB to reach the former head of the KGB himself?
Posted by trailing wife 2014-07-21 06:46||   2014-07-21 06:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Putin's popularity among Russian citizens is at an all time high. I'm afraid the problem is far greater than Putin.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-21 07:46||   2014-07-21 07:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Besides which, Executive Order 12333 - issued by Reagan in 1981 - prohibits assassination.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2014-07-21 08:58||   2014-07-21 08:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Reagan did sign E.O. 12333. However, there were many influences in developing this order, some national and some international such as the UN and other groups. Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations. The Church Commission also had a hand in shaping policy. A good discussion of this development is Here. After 9/11, there was somewhat of a rollback into what we have today--targeted killing.
Posted by JohnQC 2014-07-21 09:45||   2014-07-21 09:45|| Front Page Top

#6 hello TW true Putin was head of the KGB and must be quite wiley

this is someone who can poison people with Polonium in a restaurant... in London!

mmm Besoeker, answered the question i was thinking but didn't articulate properly. I guess with Putin gone the Russian proles would just put another one in

hello JohnQC and Rambler - yes the convention is not to assassinate heads of state, even without an EO to formalise it. I mean if we just went around killing heads of state nobody would be safe. It would be an outrage.

Posted by anon1 2014-07-21 10:24||   2014-07-21 10:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Assassinate Putin? Maybe you want WWIII but I don't. The Russians and Ukrainians have unfinished business. It's been going on for centuries. MH17 got caught in the cross fire. That is most regrettable but it is NOT a cause for us to go to war with Russia.

Putin could be every bit as pathological as Stalin but even so he must understand that MH17 is bad PR and bad for business. He did not personally pull the trigger and most likely he is pissed off because one of his boys did. He's trying to keep this low level proxy war of his under the radar and MH17 isn't helping.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-07-21 12:11||   2014-07-21 12:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Russian Medias-Bloggers have been busy protratying the Ukraine as wayward or bastard children of the Vikings, the Teutonic Knights, Prussia, + Hitler's Waffen SS.

ITV, iff Russia can control GERMANY = MERKEL, ETAL. espec by not allowing Germany to possess Nukes it will still control the Ukraine.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-07-21 23:02||   2014-07-21 23:02|| Front Page Top

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