Life does not seem to be easy to people with unconventional sexual orientation. The general public, relatives and acquaintances condemn and humiliate homosexual individuals nearly every day. However, Italian mafia mobsters are the ones who suffer from this problem most. "You said it, boyfriend! It's hard enough to look fabulous in dark suits and dark ties that are so five-decades-ago, but when you accessorize with Thompson submachine guns--we're talking fashion disaster!"
Mafia is a closed community with very conservative views. "In the category of 'Best Comic Use of Understatement in an Online News Story,' the winner is . . . Pravda! for the sentence:"
Anyone who stands out from the group will have severe problems, including death. . . .
US gangsters are somewhat more loyal to their colleagues' predilections, although they do not welcome homosexual liaisons in their environment either. "Dere was dis guy, Vinnie, he was, you know, one a' dem preverts, knowhatImean? Anyway, he gets dis crush on Guido da Hitman, says he wants to sleep wit 'im. He's sleepin' all right--sleepin' wit da fishes!"
For example, it became known in 2003 that a mafia clan lynched one of their companions who had been tempted into bad ways. A mobster testified at court that they had preferred to keep the story a secret not to wash the dirty linen in public, although the story was later included in an episode of The Sopranos series. (So much for "not washing the dirty linen," I guess!)
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"Lynched one of their companions" > I'm no Mafia Pert but methinks this particular Goodfella did something more severe/dangerous to his cohorts' interests than simply prac his personal = preferred sexuality???
Hyderabad: The Gachibowli stadium turned into a virtual battle field during the Junior Hockey Asia Cup semifinal between India and Pakistan on Wednesday when players from both the teams clashed, following an alleged un-sportsmanlike behaviour by Muhammad Irfan of the visiting side.
Irfan, who suffered nose injury during the fracas and was sent outside the ground after showing a yellow card, roughly tackled Mandeep Antil when the Indian was looking dangerous in the opponent's 'D' area towards the end of the first session with the hosts leading 1-0 in the crucial match.
Irfan allegedly raised his stick against Antil but teammate Gurwinder Singh Chandi took a strong exception to it and heated argument followed.
Chaos started when players of both the teams rushed to the spot and began pushing each other and exchanged blows.
The match was stopped for a few minutes and it was only after the umpires and other officials' intervention that the situation was prevented from turning out of hands.
The umpires called both the captains - Shafqat Rasool of Pakistan and India's Gurbaj Singh - to discuss the violent incident and warned them.
India won 3-1 in the match, which resumed with a reduced Pakistani team of 10 members.
Indian coach A K Bansal described the incident as unfortunate. "It was unfortunate. Whether it was Pakistan or us, it should not have happened," he said adding that the behaviour of the players reflected as if a school match was going on.
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it's all fun and games til someone loses an eye
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H/T The Strata-Sphere.... looks like the situation is heating up
The Afghan National Army (ANA), Afghan border police and US special forces have killed more than 150 fighters, mostly Pakistanis, in a military operation in south eastern Paktika province, a spokesman said Wednesday. "Last night, more than 350 fighters, most of them Pakistanis, entered Afghanistan from Pakistan, and attacked in the Barmal district of south-eastern Paktika province," Ghamai Khan Mohammed Yari told DPA in a telephone interview.
He said the ANA and border police, aided by a coalition airstrike, "counter-attacked the militants and after one hour's fighting, more than 150 insurgents were killed, most of them Pakistani nationals."
"A driver with a truck full of explosive materials also was arrested in Angoor Adah area of Barmal district by Afghan forces. The driver was from Multan area of Pakistan," Yari added.
A press release issued from ISAF headquarter in Kabul said that the NATO-led International Security Assistance Forces (ISAF) responded to an attack from militants Pakistan's Paktika province. "ISAF's Task Force in Paktika province received multiple rocket attacks from militants inside Pakistan on July 15," the press release said.
ISAF troops identified the point of origin of the rocket attacks "and responded in self defence with a combination of fire from attack helicopters and artillery into Pakistan", it added. The NATO-led ISAF press release did not mention anything about casualties in the military operation. Our troopers get another biggie
In a related development, ISAF forces also said they had killed a Taliban field commander in Kandahar province during an airstrike. "(Mullah) Mahmoud is reported to have commanded more than 250 Taliban fighters and was responsible for many insurgent operations in Kandahar province," an ISAF statement said.
The statement said intelligence had shown several insurgent commanders meeting to regroup their forces and plan further attacks against the Arghandab district and Kandahar city. "Afghan forces established observation of the area and called in an airstrike using ISAF aircraft," the statement said.
"Our troops have the initiative in Kandahar province," Brigadier General Denis Thompson, Commander of Task Force Kandahar, said.
In other developments, an ISAF soldier died of non-combat related causes in Parvan province on Wednesday, ISAF officials said. The nationality of the soldier was not given.
Dozens of inmates convicted of terrorism offences will be released after serving half their sentences under rules introduced by the Government. Those released early are likely to include family members who knew about the July 21 bombings but failed to tell the police and others who helped the bombers escape.
One radical cleric, Abdullah el-Faisal, who influenced both the July 7 and July 21 bombers, has already been released, deported back to his native Jamaica, and is now preaching in South Africa.
The most recent Criminal Justice Act brought in rules which mean prisoners serving determinate sentences are automatically eligible for release midway through their jail terms. No exemption has been made for those who have committed terrorism offences, although the early release does not apply to those who are serving life sentences or remain a danger to the public.
Two convicted terrorists have been released under a separate "end of custody licence scheme," which allows inmates to be released three weeks before the halfway point of their sentence in order to free up jail space.
This article starring:
Abdullah el-Faisal
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...which allows inmates to be released three weeks before the halfway point of their sentence in order to free up jail space.
I suppose you could let them out to free up space.
You could also shoot them...
Jesus, do these people pirouette down the street looking for Jews trying to sneak up on them?
Narrator: As has been mentioned before, one of the regular methods of Zionist propaganda is to use Jewish characters in films to present the idea that Zionism and the [Jewish] religion are one and the same.
Iranian film director Masoud Deh-Namaki: They are shrewd, because they do not reveal all their thoughts. As I've said before, they deal with the subconsciousness of the viewer. Later, they use these ideas in more substantial contexts, such as articles and serious films. The viewer, who is exposed to these ideas from a young age, does not need any explanation, because subconsciously, he has already absorbed these ideas. Ahhhhhh. So subtle I never even picked up on it. Please continue...
Iranian documentary filmmaker Mohammad-Reza Khosaravi-Far: In order to highlight the oppression [of the Jews] and to make it more interesting, these people have begun to make comedy films. A striking example of such films is "Meet the Parents." In this film, they tried, using the comedy genre, to make the viewer not merely understand, but become convinced of this oppression and the holocaust, and of how much the Jews suffered hardships in the 1940s and 1950s. It's as plain as the nose on your face...INFIDEL!
Deh-Namaki: The nuclear weapons of [the Israelis] remain unused in their arsenals. Instead, they conquer the world with cameras, negatives, and frames. And you better pray every night to your moon god that it stays that way.
Narrator: It is no coincidence that when the legitimacy of the Zionist regime is in crisis, one of the familiar Hollywood characters – the honest, clumsy Jewish citizen – is portrayed once again. The appearance of this citizen in "Meet the Parents" reflects the desire of a kind, peace-loving person to marry into a genteel American family. This symbolizes the extent to which the Zionist regime needs the Western fundamentalist regimes. Wonder what they thought of DeNiro as the retired CIA borderline psycho?
Iranian documentary filmmaker Reza Eskandar: [In such films] the character of the Jew is always praised and glorified. The Jew is always depicted as a positive and trustworthy person. Even if, by chance, he is involved is something wrong, it is only because he was pursuing a very lofty goal, and not because he was a bad man by nature. Well, that's because our Zionist Puppet Masters demand it.
Narrator: "Meet the Parents" is one of Hollywood's comedies produced in recent years, which includes humoristic scenes, and take bold jibes at traditional American society. At the same time, however, it cunningly tries to arouse the viewer's compassion and sympathy toward Zionist beliefs. Now "Schindler's List" they liked. Not the way it ended, but the way it started.
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Great article. Can't wait for him to tackle The Matrix trilogy - should be great.
Schindler's List highlights the dark joo-magic to brainwash Schindler and save the joos from the holocost, which of course the holocost never happened. That was first explored in Desperately Seeking Susan..see how susan sounds like zion? Madonna is relentlessly hunted down and bewitched into converting into a joooo.
Independence Day, Goldblum's character is obviously a massod computers expert posing as a mass media slusser and saves the world from the masses of 'aliens which come from beyond the moon' (btw, notice the jooo lie depicting the American flag on the moon, more lies!!1!). Quite shrewd indeed.
Don't even get him started on Tora! Tora! Tora! or Airplane 2.
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There were a lot of Muslim protests over Independence Day, because at the end, it depicted Arab and Jewish military pilots coordinating to fight the aliens.
The scene was removed before the movie was shown in the ME.
After almost six weeks of a constant Obama lead, generally in the five- to seven-point range, Scott Rasmussen's daily tracking poll records two consecutive days of a tie race (July 12-13) and a one-point Obama lead on July 14. What happened to the Democrat's lead? Part of the slippage is Obama's fault and part is McCain's gain.
Obama has carried flip-flopping to new heights. In the space of a month and a half, this candidate -- who we don't really yet know very well -- reversed or sharply modified his positions on at least eight key issues:
After vowing to eschew private fundraising and take public financing, he has now refused public money.
Once he threatened to filibuster a bill to protect telephone companies from liability for their cooperation with national security wiretaps; now he has voted for the legislation.
Turning his back on a lifetime of support for gun control, he now recognizes a Second Amendment right to bear arms in the wake of the Supreme Court decision.
Formerly, he told the Israeli lobby that he favored an undivided Jerusalem. Now he says he didn't mean it.
From a 100 percent pro-choice position, he now has migrated to expressing doubts about allowing partial-birth abortions.
For the first time, he now speaks highly of using church-based institutions to deliver public services to the poor.
Having based his entire campaign on withdrawal from Iraq, he now pledges to consult with the military first.
During the primary, he backed merit pay for teachers -- but before the union a few weeks ago, he opposed it.
After specifically saying in the primaries that he disagreed with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-N.Y.) proposal to impose Social Security taxes on income over $200,000 and wanted to tax all income, he has now adopted the Clinton position.
Obama's breathtaking flips and flops are materially different from McCain's. While McCain had opposed offshore oil drilling and now supports it, the facts have obviously changed. Obama's shifts have nothing to do with altered circumstances, just a change in the political calendar.
As a candidate who was nominated to be a different kind of politician, Obama has set the bar pretty high. And, with his flipping and flopping, he is falling short, to the disillusionment of his more naïve supporters. One wag even called him the "black Bill Clinton," a turnaround of the "first black president" moniker that had been pinned on Bill.
Meanwhile, McCain and the Republicans have finally found an issue -- oil drilling -- exposing how the Democrats oppose drilling virtually anywhere that there might be recoverable oil. Not in Alaska. Not offshore. Not in shale deposits in the West. The Democratic claim that we "cannot drill our way out of the crisis in gas prices" begs the question of whether, had we drilled five years ago, we would be a lot less dependent on foreign market fluctuations.
The truth is that the Democrats put the need to mitigate climate change ahead of the imperative of holding down gasoline prices at the pump. If there was ever a fault line between elitist and populist approaches to a problem, this is it. In fact, liberals basically don't see much wrong with $5 gas. Many have been urging a tax to achieve precisely this level, just like Europe has done for decades.
Obama said that he was unhappy that there was not a period of "gradual adjustment" to the high prices, but seems to shed few tears over the current levels. After all, if your imperative is climate change, a high gas price is worth 10 times a ratified Kyoto treaty in bringing about change. Republicans can drive a truck through the gap between this elite opinion and the need for ordinary people to afford the journey to work in the morning. And, with a 16-state media buy, the Republican Party and the McCain campaign are doing precisely that.
If Obama softens his aversion to drilling, it may be the final straw for some of his liberal supporters. Where would they go? Nader is still a possibility. But McCain can attract liberal votes. He doesn't need to bleed Obama only from the right. His own stands against drilling in Alaska and torture of terror suspects and for immigration reform make him suspect on the right, but quite acceptable to the left. If moderate liberals are disgusted by Obama's obvious attempts at chicanery and repositioning, they might just cross the aisle.
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True dat, bigjim-ky. The more he talks, the more he digs himself deeper into holes and sticks his feet in his mouth and the more people will not like him. Keep him off the prepared speech and teleprompter, and he is toast.
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This is extraordinarily bad news for Obama. At this point in every presidential race since Nixon-McGovern, the Democrat had about a 15 point lead, win or lose.
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And worse for Obambi is the fact that the polling numbers are not being weighted for the known 5% social acceptance errors - people who say they will vote for Obambi because it is politically incorrect not to do so. I think that when all is said and done, the true Election Day polling numbers are going to be startling to the left, considering how well McCain is going to do in what is supposed to be true Blue states.
The radical Muslim cleric Sheikh Imam Fawaz Jneid is claiming 55,000 euros in damages from far-right Freedom Party MP Geert Wilders for allegedly damaging his reputation in a controversial anti-Koran film.
The cleric was shown in Wilders' film 'Fitna'. The 17-minute film features verses of the Koran against images of terrorist attacks.
Wilders, quoted by Radio Netherlands says Jneid's claim "is the world upside down."
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A few miles from the Vatican, Najat Hadi kept house with her husband, his other wife and their assorted children, an unhappy home with a hateful woman 10 years her junior and a cruel spouse who left her with a jagged scar peeking from her collar. Finally, she says, her Egyptian-born husband, who worked in Rome making pizzas, beat her so badly that she left him. But he kept her children.
Thousands of polygamous marriages like Hadi's have sprung up throughout Italy as a byproduct of a fast-paced and voluminous immigration by Muslims to this Roman Catholic country.
Despite the obvious culture clash, Italian authorities largely turn a blind eye, leaving women in a murky semi-clandestine world with few rights and no recourse when things go especially badly, as they did in Hadi's case.
"It is absurd that in a civilized country like Italy, so little is acknowledged about this," said Souad Sbai, a Moroccan-born Italian lawmaker who has emerged as a one-woman champion of female Muslim immigrants here.
Italy is one of several European nations faced with the issue of polygamy. In Britain and Spain, where large Muslim communities have also settled, some officials favor recognizing polygamous marriage as a way to ensure the wives' access to pensions, medical care and other state benefits.
But Sbai, who has lived 27 of her 47 years in Italy, thinks that misguided attempts at cultural sensitivity backfire when customs that stray into illegality are tolerated. Italian law sanctions marriage between a single man and a single woman only. Sbai estimates that there are 14,000 polygamous families in Italy; others put the number even higher. Many take advantage of the so-called orfi marriage, a less formal union performed by an imam, that does not carry the same social or legal standing as regular marriage.
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Well just how big is the Mormon community over there?
Ooooooh...I should read the story first.
TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- First Solar Inc. [that is a real profit making investor owned company] said Wednesday it has begun building [that's right - not a lab project, not a demo, a real producing facility] the first rooftop solar system in a plan by Southern California Edison to [eventually] add 250 megawatts of solar power capacity to large commercial rooftops in Southern California.
Southern California Edison's overall [10 year] plan calls for the 250 megawatts to be installed over the next five years in what would be the largest rooftop solar project proposed by a U.S. utility.
First Solar began work on the initial 2 megawatt project July 14. The panels will be connected to California's power grid in September.
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It is true that this is done because SoCal gets a tax credit; however, the FSLR thin film technology could get less expensive with economies of scale. I don't know if there is a good estimate of the total flat roof space available in the Southwest but I'd guess it would be enough for over a few gigawatts of capacity that could be installed without any loss of ag land.
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The bottom line for solar is marginal use. And while that doesn't sound like much, it is. Marginal use is the most expensive part of energy use, and even though it doesn't do much on the surface, it has a major impact.
For example, just a black water tank on a roof will pre-heat softened water prior to it going into the water heater. This boost of between 20-30 degrees is marginal, but it saves a LOT of energy, by the water heater only having to raise its temperature by 20 degrees instead of between 40-50 degrees.
If roof solar panels are used just to blow hot air out of a roof crawlspace, they will reduce the temp in there from maybe 150 degrees to only 110. In turn, this reduces the load on the main a/c by a huge amount when electricity is most expensive.
Marginal matters big time. In the southwest, just these two things would take hundreds of dollars off your electricity bill every year.
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Moose, Here in Perth (similar climate to LA) rooftop solar hot water will heat water enough for domestic use 8 or 9 months of the year. Even in the middle of winter, a sunny day will give you enough hot water for a shower.
However, solar hot water is still more expensive than gas over 20 years. The comparison is actually worse than that because electricity is used for auxiliary heating in the winter and is about 3 times more expensive than gas for heating.
Of course that doesn't stop the government throwing huge subsidies at solar hot water.
It's only a cartoon! But Obama adds that New Yorker cover insults Muslims
Barack Obama says he's "seen and heard worse" than The New Yorker cartoon (below) satirizing attacks on him and his wife by the political right.
In his first substantive talk about the magazine's inflammatory cartoon depicting him and his wife as fist-bumping terrorists, Obama told CNN's Larry King the image fueled misconceptions and insulted Muslim Americans.
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Could be worse. Could take this David Byrn interview and overpaste bo's face, change the dialogue - not that anyone would do such a thing, right Senator Lieberman?
It is sad and telling, the overresponse. President Bush and his administration takes theirs as light as a feather - some of the jabs just downright mean. I knew what it was right off the bat - if you don't like bo then you must think like this. In a sideways view it would be a way to shame clinton supporters who would rather vote McCain into thinking that if they do then they share the smear.
The obsurdity I note is that if bo was in office guns would be illegal so he would have to arrest his wife.
Nisshinbo Industries Inc. has worked with the Tokyo Institute of Technology to develop the technology to use carbon instead of expensive platinum as the electrode catalyst for fuel cells.
The company hopes to have a practical version of the new catalyst ready in fiscal 2009, and will start by commercializing a product for the electrodes of residential fuel cells. Later, it will develop and commercialize a version for automotive fuel cells.
In a fuel cell, the catalyst promotes the oxidation-reducing reactions at the electrodes that lead to the generation of electricity from the hydrogen fuel and oxygen in the air.
Platinum is now used as the catalyst, but high demand and unstable supplies from main producer South Africa have driven prices sky-high. A 1kw-class residential fuel cell uses several grams of platinum and a 150kw-class automotive fuel cell uses around 60 grams, which at current prices adds 400,000 yen (US$3,762) to the cost of a car.
The carbon catalyst promises to remove this cost barrier, which along with the needed infrastructure for hydrogen filling stations is a major roadblock to the adoption of fuel cells for homes and cars.
The new catalyst is made from nanospheres of carbon. For practical purposes as a fuel cell catalyst, 10 times more carbon is required than platinum; but even in this larger volume, the cost is just a 10th that of using platinum.
House and car fuel cell. No need for losses in the grid, no need for petroleum. Just big nukes to produce the hydrogen and grid power for base load by business.
Imagine a community where the only "wires" are buried fiber optics.
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You're correct OS, this is HUGE. The 5KW 'home version' (1KW is a tad 'wimpy') of these units was currently projected to run $18K-$24K ($4+/watt approx.) or better plus installation. This discovery possibly could cut that in third or better by my guess, thereby making it affordable for most homeowners (still not free, though, along with the flying cars they promised us when we were kids).
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I want want for home use.
Add 20K (cost plus service contract) to my house price to be completely free of the grid?
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Carbon nanotubes can also super strengthen very thin layers of metals, making possible ultr-lightweight vehicles that use less gas besides space applications. Necessity is the "mother of invention".
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"unstable supplies from main producer South Africa"
This could also take money out of Zimbabwe-ass-kissing South Africa's hands.
Lagniappe.... :-D
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You or your grandkids won't be driving hydrogen powered cars. Starting w/ electricity, making hydrogen and converting it back to electricity gives you 25-30% efficiency. That does not even take into account the very expensive means to transport hydrogen. Direct thermal decomposition of water will up the efficiency, but fuel cells will never approach battery efficiency. Compare that to 80% efficiency for battery storage, including the losses from the power plant to the home.
Fuel cells make marginally more sense in cold climate homes when fueled by nat gas where the waste heat is used for heating and hot water. The rub is that there is not enough nat gas to make this a standard in home construction.
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Compare battery life and weight to fuel cells.
Consider the effect of large numbers of nuclear plants.
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Hydrogen needs electricity for it's creation but it could be used as a storage system to for wind and solar when they are going (same as batteries) and a supplement to the grid when they are not.
As far as in-home use goes there are safety considerations w/r hydrogen and it's distribution systems. I would hate to be the one to dig up a hydrogen line to my house or have a hydrogen leak to the fuel cells. BANG!!
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Problem with hydrogen is this: hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source.
We have no hydrogen wells and no hydrogen mines, and so have to make hydrogen. We can electrolyze sea water or we can breakdown methane. The first requires huge amounts of electricity, the second requires lots and lots of natural gas. Nuclear power would generate the electricity for electrolysis but that's expensive (for now).
Fuel cells are interesting but until we have a cheap source for hydrogen are likely not practical.
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ed: Batteries are old tech. Future apps are for capacitors, which have all the goodness of batteries and more. They have much better charge-discharge curves, much less weight, and are naturals with nanotech. Do a google on advanced capacitors.
The military has one the size of a suitcase that can hold something like 6MJoules.
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A suitcase is huge. 6MJ is the energy in 21 oz of gasoline. The problem with capacitors is their low breakdown voltage (a few hundred volts) limits the energy density (e=1/2*C*V^2). Good for explosive power, not good for primary energy storage. EEstor is claiming their process will work at a 3500 volts (10 times the voltage and 100 times the energy density of today's ultracaps) and even exceed Li-ion battery energy density, yet no product has been publicly demonstrated. I will remain highly skeptical that it ever will be.
Here (pdf) you can see a 5.6MJ (1.562kwH) Li-ion battery that looks like a car large car battery (12.2x6.8x9.2 in) and weighs 41 pounds. Not to mention much safer than any ultra-capacitor.
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Hey, the Paleos do it regularly and no one cared. It's a little late to try to play that card. Although we're familiar with the game, trying to hold one group responsible and another not.
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So a bunch of helicopters arrive, full of apparent NGO folk along with a guy apparently from this Red Cross-affiliated NGO, to pick up hostages from remote and scattered prison camps & move them to another, centralized prison location.
This is not a violation of any of the Geneva Convention - because the Red Cross *exists* to be jailers and transporters of prisoners-of-war and hostages.
Ah! But the man pretending to be a Red Cross prison transporter, acting as a logistical support for a band of terrorists, is actually an agent of the legitimate government of the host country, a soldier out of uniform & acting under a ruse of war. No shots fired, not even any punches thrown.
But this! This! This is a war crime.
So basically, the Red Cross definition of "war crime" is any action which might correct an injustice while acting under a false flag, so long as that false flag has the Red Cross.
Freeing the captives of low-grade narco-terrorists is a *crime*, while habitually supporting and enabling the on-going unlawful imprisonment of said captives is just business as usual.
Why again do I donate money to the Red Cross again?
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I saw the Communist News Network trying to make a big deal out of this story this morning. We got our guys back. So who cares what the hell CNN thinks. FARC is not guided by the Geneva Convention.
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"Why again do I donate money to the Red Cross again?"
You don't (I hope), Mitch - not to the International Red Cross.
The American Red Cross isn't involved in their shenanigans. The American Red Cross responds to American disasters, and - at least in our area - helps people burned out of their homes.
American Red Cross: Good, gets my donations.
International Red Cross: *Spit*
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Barbara: Of course I don't give money to the ICRC. I'm just paranoid today that the American Red Cross isn't paying dues to Geneva or something like that. Do you have a link guaranteeing that there's a chinese wall between the entities?
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The Geneva Conventions do not tie the hands of civilized forces to anything like the degree the terrorists and their media whores would like you to believe.
The Colombians were not in violation of the Convention even if did apply to the terrorists.
Anyone who has ever been in the military, or has even seen a reasonable amount of authentic combat video, will know that military medical personnel are permitted to wear the Red Cross as part of their uniforms.
Similarly, the Geneva Conventions specify that unarmed aircraft used for the evacuation of casualties (and the hostages were clearly in need of medical attention) may be marked with the Red Cross. The use of threats, force, or tactical deception to prevent interference with a lawful attempt to evacuate sick or wounded is, itself, perfectly lawful.
The following conditions shall not be considered as depriving a medical unit or establishment of the protection guaranteed by Article 19:
(1) That the personnel of the unit or establishment are armed, and that they use the arms in their own defence, or in that of the wounded and sick in their charge.
(2) That in the absence of armed orderlies, the unit or establishment is protected by a picket or by sentries or by an escort.
There is another relevant section CNN did not bother to look up:
Article 37 -- Prohibition of perfidy
1. It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy. Acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence, shall constitute perfidy. The following acts are examples of perfidy:
(a) the feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
(b) the feigning of an incapacitation by wounds or sickness;
(c) the feigning of civilian, non-combatant status; and
(d) the feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict.
2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts which are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation.
The medics in the rescue force were not feigning their Red Cross status, the evacuation helicopter was not feigning its right to show the Red Cross. The other ruses are not prohibited.
The rough disguise of the helicopter as a civilian aircraft does not violate section 1(a) because the objective of the ruse was clearly not to gain the "protection of international law" (ie, keep the terrorists from shooting at it) but to mislead the terrorists into believing that it was part of a friendly force; that is, a lawful ruse de guerre.
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Goddamned Lawyers and CNN.
The thing to remember here is that they used the Red Cross symbols to AVOID killing people. The paleostains use the red crescent trucks to run guns, smuggle murderers, launch attacks.
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Not around here, bj. They won't permanently support you, but people burned out of their homes (who want the help - those with insurance usually refuse, & some people move in with relatives) get vouchers for several nights in a motel and help replacing basic clothing, medicines, glasses, and the like.
I support the Sallies, too, since they provide disaster relief and also work with the homeless, but in this area it's the Red Cross who handles the burned-out homes.
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All righty then... KABUL (Reuters) - NATO forces in Afghanistan hit targets inside Pakistan with artillery and attack helicopters after coming under rocket fire from across the border, the alliance said on Wednesday. Troops from NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) "received multiple rocket attacks from militants inside Pakistan, July 15," the alliance said in a statement."The troops identified a (compound) as the point of origin of the attacks and responded in self-defence with a combination of fire from attack helicopters and artillery into Pakistan."
Nine Afghan soldiers were wounded by the rocket attacks and ISAF responded immediately, an ISAF spokesman said. ISAF and the Pakistani army "coordinated their operation closely from the outset. The Pakistani military agreed to assist and search the area if the border firing continued," the statement said.
Despite cooperation and open lines of communication between army commanders on both sides of the border, Afghan leaders have blamed Pakistani agents for a string of attacks. These have included a suicide bomb on the Kabul Indian Embassy last week that killed 58 people and an April assassination bid on President Hamid Karzai. Pakistan rejects the accusations and says the Afghan government is trying to deflect criticism of its own failure to stem the rising tide of Taliban violence.
The U.S. military, which provides the vast majority of troops in eastern Afghanistan, says attacks are up by 40 percent in the area over the last year, partly because of increased penetration of their soldiers into the mountainous region. Another factor is the ceasefires in Pakistan which help secure the militants' rear.
But while cross-border firing has gone up from both sides, NATO denied it had any intention of mounting any incursion onto Pakistani soil."There is not, nor is there going to be, an incursion of NATO troops into Pakistan. There is no planning for, no mandate for, an incursion of NATO troops into Pakistan," NATO spokesman James Appathurai told a news briefing in Brussels. But, he said, NATO troops "have the right to fire back in self-defence into Pakistan."
HARARE (Reuters) - Zimbabwe's annual inflation rate, already the highest in the world, has hit 2.2 million percent, central bank Governor Gideon Gono said on Wednesday. "Some independent economists say our inflation is 7 million percent annually but the CSO (Central Statistical Office) says it's 2.2 million percent," Gono said at the launch of a government program to supply basic goods. Oh, good. Sounds like you're getting a handle on it, Gideon.
The last official inflation figure of 164,900 percent year-on-year for February was released in April.
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Reporting an inflation rate of that magnitude reminds me of the old Star Trek episodes where Spock would advise of some event in 43.7 seconds - by the time it's stated, it's already wrong.
The US has been advised not to execute five Mexican nationals on death row by the International Court of Justice in The Hague. The ICJ - the UN's highest court - had previously ruled that the men had been denied the right to help from their consulate after their arrests.
Mexico says the US has not reviewed the cases - as advised by the ICJ. The court told the US it should not execute the men before it made its final judgement.
The five are among 51 Mexicans on death row in the United States who were not told after arrest that they were entitled to assistance from Mexican consulates. All five are currently on death row in Texas. One of them, Jose Medellin, is scheduled for execution in less than three weeks for his part in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls.
After the executions were cleared to proceed in the US, Mexico went back to the world court last month to stop the sentences from being carried out. The international court called for a review of all their cases, and President George W Bush directed state courts to do so, but the US Supreme Court overruled him, saying he had no authority to intervene.
The ICJ is the highest United Nations court. Set up in 1946, it offers advisory opinions to international disputes brought to it by member states.
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One of them, Jose Medellin, is scheduled for execution in less than three weeks for his part in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls.
Yes, I can see why the consulate would wanna help him out. Just doing the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls that Americans can't be bothered to do I'm sure...
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The ICJ is the highest United Nations court. Set up in 1946, it offers advisory opinions to international disputes brought to it by member states.
The key word is advisory. They are not binding. We are not ruled by the UN.
Besides, if the guys are guilty, what would the Mexican consulate been able to say? "Dude, you are screwed" (in Spanish, of course, like all educated people)
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"MedellÃÂn v. Texas, 552 U.S. ___ (2008) is a United States Supreme Court decision which held that while an international treaty may constitute an international commitment, it is not binding domestic law unless Congress has enacted statutes implementing it or unless the treaty itself is "self-executing"; that decisions of the International Court of Justice are not binding domestic law; and that, absent an act of Congress or Constitutional authority, the President of the United States lacks the power to enforce international treaties or decisions of the International Court of Justice.[1]" - wiki
Further -
"The Court also rejected MedellÃÂn's claim that Article 94 of the U.N. Charter requires the United States to "undertake to comply" with the ICJ ruling. Chief Justice Roberts observed that Article 94(2) of the Charter provides for explicit enforcement for noncompliance by referral to the United Nations Security Council, and for appeals to be made only by the aggrieved state (not an individual such as MedellÃÂn).[25] Even so, the United States clearly reserved the right to veto any Security Council resolutions.[26] The majority also held that the ICJ statute contained in the U.N. Charter also forbade individuals from being parties to suits before the International Court. The ICJ statute is a pact between nations, Justice Roberts said, and only nations (not individuals) may seek its judgment."
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P2k - here's a different cite for Medellin: Medellin v. Texas, 128 S. Ct. 1346 (2008) [if anyone wants to look it up]
As for the ICJ - just how do you intend to enforce your "ruling"? Send the Mexican army to Texas? Better tell them to watch out for the Texas cheerleaders and female soccer players, who would gladly - and handily - kick their collective asses before breakfast.
"Don't mess with Texas."
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Send the Mexican army to Texas? Better tell them to watch out for the Texas cheerleaders and female soccer players, who would gladly - and handily - kick their collective asses before breakfast.
Getting them here is not a problem considering they've infiltrated about 8+ million. And as for their effectiveness, Mr. Medellin has shown that he [and others] are fully capable of killing teenage girls. Together he and his 'raza' have probably inflicted more casualties on the American population than the terrorist did since 9/10. It's time for some pay back. The Mexican government is looking more and more like the Pakistan government every day.
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Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745.
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"Mr. Medellin has shown that he [and others] are fully capable of killing teenage girls."
Only one at a time, P2k.
They really don't want to piss off Texans, of any age or gender.
I really do wish the Mexican army would be stupid enough to roll across the border. Unlike in Mexico, the "peasants" have guns, too, and would be happy to use them. And that includes the legal hispanic immigrants, too.
I'd make a killing on the popcorn concession.
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FOX NEWS AM > GERALDO - opined that iff anyone deserved to be exceuted, Medellin does for his role in the rape and deaths of these two girls as part of a gang ritual-initiation. Geraldo also brought up the point that the USA is a per se signatory nation to a decades-old UN Treatise allowing foreign citizens-nationals held for serious crimes in resident nations + facing detrimental imprisonment or execution for same to appeal their case directly to the UN ICC = ICJ.
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IMO it would be a CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE requiring formal AMENDMENT TO SAME, not merely by Congressional legislation. Its pretty much a given the majority of the 50 States would resist Federal + UNO interference and control over US State-specific domestic affairs.
OTOH, 2008-2012 [2016] > SOCIALISM IN AMERIKA > ISN'T THE WOT/9-11 + OWG-NWO + GLOBAL CONTROL-AUTHORITY OVER AMER AFFAIRS WHAT ITS ABOUT???
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They should have flown over the celebration like they were bringing the prisoners, then flung them out of the chopper at a thousand feet up. Right on that cackling bunch of baboons.
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Too stupid to live. Unfortunately I've come to expect this self destructive behavior from any nation who becomes used to the American security blanket, not least of all American herself.
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Bad Precedent.
Olmert's leadership will be one for the record books.
What should we expect when Hezbollah attacks again?
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"Woe betide the people who celebrate the release of a beastly man who bludgeoned the skull of a 4-year-old toddler," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in a statement before a private meeting with the families of the soldiers.
Well, you're right.
You're also the guy who let him out...
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Israel should swap like-for-like. If the Palestinians send back dead bodies, the Israelis should send them dead bodies. If the people that the Paleos want back aren't dead yet, that can be fixed relatively easily.
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I can not, simply not, understand how Olmert could have allowed this. Or, for that matter, how any of the soldiers/police guarding Kuntar could have refrained from shooting him dead before seeing him go free.
Israel is doomed. It doesn't have the courage to survive. This craven cowering by Olmert, supposedly backed by a majority of the country, is absolute proof of the preceding statement. Of course, Olmert's continuance as PM despite his criminality and gutlessness has also demonstrated that proof for some years now.
I am saddened beyond words to think that I'll live to see the completion of the Holocaust.
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something tells me if my son were to die, God forbid, he wouldn't want to be negotiated for terrorists to be traded back to only have them be able to kill again.
Precedent set, and Israeli's seen as weak.
Makes me sick.
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Compare wid TOPIX > GUARDIAN.UK - THE COMING ILLIBERAL ORDER [Rise of Pan-Global Authoritarian States, NOT Liberal Democracy]; + INTELLIBRIEFS > ASIA'S CHALLENGING STRATEGIC CALCULUS. Each differentiated Asia-specific regions possesses different geopolitical realities and challenges, espec for the USA as Global Hegemon. The USA + RUSSIA NEED TO LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER AS OPPOSED TO PERENNIALLY COMPETING AGZ EACH OTHER FOR ASYMMTERIC SUPERIORITY.
THE FUTURE OF THE POST-WOT WORLD + "GLOBALISM" RESTS IN HOW THE WORLD'S GREAT/MAJOR POWERS WORK TOGETHER EFFEC IN ASIA.
H/T Instapundit. Remarkably unsparing criticism of The Anointed One. And pretty gutsy considering the WaPo's target audience...
Barack Obama yesterday accused President Bush and Sen. John McCain of rigidity on Iraq: "They said we couldn't leave when violence was up, they say we can't leave when violence is down." Mr. Obama then confirmed his own foolish consistency. Early last year, when the war was at its peak, the Democratic candidate proposed a timetable for surrender and defeat withdrawing all U.S. combat forces in slightly more than a year. Yesterday, with bloodshed at its lowest level since the war began, Mr. Obama endorsed the same plan. After hinting earlier this month that he might "refine" his Iraq strategy after visiting the country and listening to commanders, Mr. Obama appears to have decided that sticking to his arbitrary, 16-month timetable is more important than adjusting to the dramatic changes in Iraq. WHACK! POW!
At the time he first proposed his timetable, Mr. Obama argued -- wrongly, as it turned out -- that U.S. troops could not stop a sectarian civil war. He conceded that a withdrawal might be accompanied by a "spike" in violence. Now, he describes as "an achievable goal" that "we leave Iraq to a government that is taking responsibility for its future -- a government that prevents sectarian conflict and ensures that the al-Qaeda threat which has been beaten back by our troops does not reemerge." How will that "true success" be achieved? By the same pullout that Mr. Obama proposed when chaos in Iraq appeared to him inevitable. BIFF! BAM! THUMP!
"What's missing in our debate," Mr. Obama said yesterday, "is a discussion of the strategic consequences of Iraq." Indeed: The message that the Democrat sends is that he is ultimately indifferent to the war's outcome -- that Iraq "distracts us from every threat we face" and thus must be speedily evacuated regardless of the consequences. Here's the only part where WaPo got it wrong. The Sacred One and his robot army of supporters are anything BUT indifferent to the war's outcome. To the contrary, they're utterly committed to a helicopters-on-the-embassy-roof scenario.
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I think what's almost as telling as the op-ed's content is its timing. There have been other, more tepid criticisms of The Lightworker (ex.: the public-financing flip flop) in the MSM, almost all of which were confined to the weekend news cycle. The WaPo fired this shot across the bow in the middle of the workweek, when it would be more likely to be read and discussed by more of the citizenry.
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Obama can't bring himself to break from his radical leftist support base. They still believe that defeat in Iraq will be blamed on Bush, the evil one. Somewhere they forgot that Bush ain't running, and all but the most deranged anti-Bushers realize the leftist (Obama) have been completely wrong on Iraq at every step. So they, and thier condidate, continue in step.
Hundreds of Denver's homeless could be cooling their heels in a movie theater or museum while the Democratic National Convention is in town next month.
I guess the LBJ legacy of public housing, health care and money every Monday before election day hasn't worked sufficiently ...
The Colorado Coalition for the Homeless plans to get 500 movie tickets as well as passes to the Denver Zoo, Denver Museum of Nature and Science and other cultural facilities for the people it helps.
Because the homeless types have been pining for the Museum of Nature and Science ...
Bus tickets will be provided for events beyond walking distance, said John Parvensky, the non-profit's president.
Many day shelters will have expanded hours during the convention, and big screen TVs are being donated to some shelters so patrons can watch convention goings-on without being seen by delegates and TV cameras caught up in the mayhem. "We're trying to let folks know what activities are planned, and what other places they'll be able to go without being harassed," Parvensky said.
A two-day voter registration drive is also planned at shelters and health clinics to ensure that metro area homeless people have access to the polls in November.
And neatly printed instruction cards on exactly how to vote ...
Backers of the plan say it's a more sanitary and humane way to take care of people.
But not everyone buys it.
Cynics ...
"It just sounds like another way to get rid of them," said Kayne Coy, 17, who volunteers feeding the homeless twice a week at Civic Center Park through the Food Not Bombs organization. As for the convention, Coy said: "I've heard rumors that all the homeless people are going to be sent away to Aurora or somewhere else."
Parvensky vigorously denied that there will any attempt to hide the homeless during convention, which runs Aug. 25-28.
"No, no, certainly not!"
Tight security around the Pepsi Center means some homeless people will get booted out of their regular camps along the South Platte River. Then, there's the protests and parades. "A person who typically sits under a tree in a park that is now occupied by 1,000 protesters won't have the peace and quiet they're desiring," Parvensky said. "Particularly those with mental illness can't cope with crowds."
Parvensky is confident Denver police won't target homeless people unless a law is being broken. Aggressive panhandling and begging for money in front of an ATM machine are both banned. But he remains concerned for people's welfare.
Because he cares ...
"Our concern going forward is that the city doesn't control everything - the Secret Service plays a role," he said. "We don't know what will happen if protests get out of control and people get caught up in something they didn't intend to."
But some homeless people also aren't enthusiastic about the plan. Ronnie Wand, who was panhandling across the street, said he will believe the free tickets when he sees them. "I don't care," said the 62-year-old, who expects to land in jail for vagrancy during the DNC.
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Why not just give them tickets to the Rockies game that weekend; and when the game is up a free weekend getaway at scenic Camp Amache.
Actually, come to think of it, that would probably be more humane than being sent to the zoo and forced to spend the weekend with the animals, forced to watch 'Swing Vote' with kostner, or forced to sit in a shelter and watch the dnc on multiple big screen TV's.
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Oh, boy. Can't wait to go to the movies, the zoo, or the Museum of Nature and Science that week. If they want to get rid of them, they should give them 100 gift certificates to an out of town liquor store.
Democrats love the "homeless". As long as they don't have to see, smell, touch or hear them. Except at Thanksgiving and Christmas for as long as it takes to get a photo op.
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This really stinks to me. Little story - I was in Houston for a conference downtown. All by myself, I didn't know the layout at all. On my walk to the conference building I was approached by a local what some would call a vagrant. He asked for a handout and I said, "Nope I don't hand out money....but if you show me around I'll pay you for the tour: show me where to buy food, what to see, etc. He gave me a great tour, gave me a ghetto pass by introducing me to the local big wigs and always waved and asked me how everything was going whenever we crossed paths that weekend. I bought him a couple of lunches and paid him some cash for his services. Would it not make sense to do something similar with these homeless folks, give them a job for the weekend? You know, clean and feed, give them a uniform, and upon completion earn a wage or donation to a shelter of their choice?
Instead they get this jackassery, "We don't want people to see you, but look at how much we respect you. Here, register to vote and think kindly of the democrats when you do." BTW, I am not familiar with Colorado law but don't you have to have a permament physical address in order to register (or can they claim a shelter as such?)?
So did the Colorado Coalition for the Juden Homeless think about asking the zookeepers/movie ushers/currators/bus drivers about their bribe and hide idea? Ronnie Wand seems to have a good idea what will happen which the cost of course is passed onto the tax payers. Then what do the police do when the holding tanks are filled and the protesters get naughty what will they then do?
I guess I do understand why they would not want the mentally unstable homeless looking like the sane ones when side-to-side with the Boulder activists. /snark
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"A person who typically sits under a tree in a park that is now occupied by 1,000 protesters won't have the peace and quiet they're desiring," Parvensky said. "Particularly those with mental illness can't cope with crowds."
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Homeless fight over territory to beg at street corners. Several strategic spots here in Denver near Pepsi center and the theater district are good spots.
I've heard that many use liquor stores for addresses and have their checks mailed there and use them as a debit card instead of having to carry money on them taking the chance getting mugged themselves.
Denver with the looper and ritter plan on giving these homeless folks free housing without any rehab or preconditions. Makes me ill.
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LONDON / ISLAMABAD: US troops in Afghanistan are massing close to the border with Pakistan, poised to launch bombing raids on suspected terrorist bases in the North Waziristan region, British and Pakistani newspapers reported Wednesday.
The Times said troops have been airlifted from the village of Lowara Mandi and that heavy artillery and armoured vehicles were also being moved into position for possible cross-border attacks on Pakistan.
The paper said US Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during a visit to Islamabad at the weekend, had told Pakistan's top civil and military leadership that the US could take unilateral military action if Pakistan were unable to stop cross-border attacks in Afghanistan. Mullen also said some elements within Pakistani security agencies could be helping insurgents operate from their bases in the border region, the paper quoted well-placed sources as saying.
The Times quoted an influential Pakistani army official as saying there were strong indications the US was ready to launch bombing raids against suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban camps inside Pakistan.
The Pakistani newspaper The News quoted official and tribal sources in the North Waziristan area as saying NATO troops had started arriving near the border areas on Monday night. "Some of them had been brought in choppers and others by armoured personnel carriers. The troops had also shifted heavy arms and ammunition including tanks, heavy machine guns and artillery to the border," Haji Yaqub, a resident of the border town of Ghulam Khan, said.
The NATO troops have been deployed near the border towns of Ghulam Khan, Saidgai, Shawal and Mir Safar. "They started setting up bunkers very close to the border while gunship helicopters are continuously hovering over the border," said a man named Roohullah, a resident of the border town of Saidgai.
He said he had never before seen such a large deployment of foreign troops near the border. "For us, it's unusual as they are on the zero point," Roohullah said, adding that the foreign troops had not crossed the border thus far.
The News quoted its sources as saying NATO troops had dug trenches at Mughalgai near Zhawar, the training camp of Afghan Mujahideen commander Maulvi Jalaluddin Haqqani, in Khost near Pakistan's Saidgai town.
Another bunker was established at Gurbaz near Tarkhobi area of Khost, close to Pakistan's Ghulam Khan town. Trenches were also dug close to Mir Safar and Shawal towns of NWA.
NATO forces had planned to set up four new military camps along the border in the Taliban-dominated provinces of Khost and Paktika in Afghanistan, The News quoted its sources as saying. "They planned establishing four new military camps along the border and this latest deployment of the foreign troops was first step of the future planning," the sources added.
Meanwhile, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar has said that Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani's recent statements have provided the US-led NATO forces with an opportunity to deploy near the tribal areas. "When a responsible person like the prime minister has himself said that foreign militants were hiding in Pakistani tribal areas and could cause another 9/11 like disaster, then who will stop American forces from invading the country?" Omar wondered.
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If we are to believe Eli Lake this would be Hussain's strategy. This will be the acid test, if he backs attacking Pakistan, then I will have to change my mind about him. However I don't think it will happen, more likely Eli will be thrown under the Bus.
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US troops in Afghanistan are massing close to the border with Pakistan, poised to launch bombing raids on suspected terrorist bases in the North Waziristan region"
Uhhhhhhhhh, "troops massed....poised for bombing raids?" I missed that techniques at the Naval War College. Better turn in my JPME Phase I.
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There are a couple of reasons you might mass prior to a bombing raid. (1) To move in after thing are destroyed to help or root out the ones you want (2) there is no raid but you want the bad guys to hunker down in place so they'll be there when your troops arrive.
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rjschwarz...Understood. But we don't have the boots on the ground to execute that sort of mission; In addition that part of the world does not geographically lend itself to that sort of operation either. In any case, I was being snarky. :)
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TU3031. Maybe we could induce the Chicoms to stack up also--Pakistan would really get the undies in a wad. To stabilize Afghanistan, something is going to have to be done about the border areas of Pakistan. We can't have AQ and the Taliban bleeding us. They will have to pay a significant price. Leadereship will have to be targeted. Hekmatyar and Haqqania and others will have to be persuaded to give up there ways (euphemism for being seriously targeted in Pakistan). Besides these guys are poisoning the world with heroin to finance their chicanery. No more 911s planned in Afghanistan or Pakistan. There can't be any sanctuaries.
Chicoms stacking up against Pakistan?? What in the world would entice them to do that? That would be a first--sort of like us stacking up against Canada. Pakistan's always been buddies with the Chicoms, bordering on subservience.
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We should tell the ChiComs to put pressure on Pakistan to allow the cleanout of Waziristan or Bush will avoid the opening cerimonies of the Olympics and make them lose face.
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Interesting use of the term "border" in this and accompanying articles. It doesn't seem to mean the same thing to the various folks quoted, and sometimes to the same person quoted at different times.
It reminds one of what Colin Powell said back in GWI about throwing the rock and hiding the hand.
Jamaat-e-Islami Secretary General Syed Munawar Hasan has warned that the US is anxiously waiting to attack Pakistan to pursue its nefarious designs.
"Gridley!"
"Sir!"
"I want two new nefarious designs on my desk by morning!"
Addressing a meeting of the office-bearers and Shoora members of the party's Faisalabad chapter here on Monday, he said the rumours aired by the Zionist-controlled media that the Al-Qaeda and Taliban were reorganising in the tribal areas of the country were part of the conspiracy to justify the US attacks in the region. He expressed concerns over the irresponsible attitude of the PPP-led government, especially over the leaders' unnecessary foreign visits while ignoring the situation back in the country. He demanded of the rulers to convene an emergency session of parliament to evolve a strategy for countering serious dangers being faced by the nation. "Though the US forces stationed in Afghanistan have been making unannounced attacks inside Pakistani border and violating our airspace for quite sometime, killing hundreds of Pakistanis, but during the past few weeks, President Bush and other US officials have increased naked threats of attacking Pakistan," he said, adding that the baseless allegations were being used to justify the possible US attack as they were used before Afghanistan and Iraq attacks.
Munawar said that the Taliban did not attack the World Trade Centre on 9-11 and there was no threat of any attack on the US soil by them because they had no capability to attack the super power of the world.
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A few batteries of M-109s and plenty of ammo under Afghan control would go a long way to calming down the Pakis.
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A couple of 10-ship ARCLIGHT strikes down through the heart of Islamabad would be the most effective "inducement" to clean up the mess in the Tribal Agencies. Pakistan aids, abets, and encourages both the Taliban and Al-Qaida. They need to learn the hard way that such behavior has very negative consequences. There aren't any towns in the Tribal Areas worth wasting an ARCLIGHT strike on, but Islamabad would be a nice, BIG target. It would also send a clear message to the rest of the muslim world that the US will not put up with their 7th-century bullsh$$. We haven't done that yet, and it's costing us lives and fortunes.
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NOVI, Mich. - A 33-year-old Michigan man is accused of wearing a "World's Greatest Dad" shirt to a meeting for sex with what he thought was a 14-year-old girl.
Daniel Allen Everett of Clarkston was arraigned Tuesday in Novi on charges of child sexual abuse and using the Internet to attempt child sexual abuse. A jail official said it isn't known whether Everett has a lawyer.
Izzy speaks...
A message purported to be from the fugitive deputy of executed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has called on insurgents to make a final push against US forces. The message attributed to Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri urged Iraqi fighters to "make this year... decisive for victory". I, of course, will stay here in my secret lair counting Sammy's money.
The message also called on US President George W Bush to "come clean about the scale of US losses". Which he reads about in Jihad Unspun...
The message, aired by Dubai-based satellite broadcaster Al-Arabiya and reported by the AFP news agency, urged Iraqi insurgents to "strike the enemy everywhere". It also called on President Bush to "end an experiment that has now lasted more than five years". Please stop killing us.
Ibrahim is the most senior member of Saddam Hussein's regime still at large. Al-Duri was Saddam Hussein's number two in Iraq's decision-making Revolutionary Command Council, and has had a $10m price on his head since November 2003. US military chiefs have accused him of being the paymaster of many attacks on their troops. They say he has access to Saddam's hidden stashes of cash with which he pays jobless Iraqis to fight in the insurgency. Thousands of US troops have taken part in the search for him.
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You've got to pity the fool if he believes the stories on Jihad Unspun and really thinks they are cleaning American clocks right now but dang it victory just remains slightly out of reach because Bush has lied about casualty figures.
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The best counter to this I saw elsewhere was for someone to loudly proclaim that this proves the BBC *wants* Christians to murder Muslims, because the BBC is racist and hates Muslims.
Which would raise shrieking denials of Dhimmitude from BBC spokesmen. Haw haw.
A two-decade ban on people with HIV visiting or immigrating to the United States may end soon through a Senate bill aimed at fighting AIDS and other diseases in Africa and other poor areas of the world.
The U.S. is one of a dozen countries — including Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Russia — that ban travel and immigration for HIV-positive people.
Even China, said Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., recently changed that policy, deciding it was "time to move beyond an antiquated, knee-jerk reaction" to people with HIV.
"There's no excuse for a law that stigmatizes a particular disease," Kerry said Tuesday at a speech to the Center for Strategic & International Studies HIV/AIDS Task Force. Even people with avian flu or the Ebola virus have an easier time than those with HIV when it come to applying for visas, he said.
Kerry and Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., are trying to repeal the ban, first implemented in 1987 and confirmed by Congress in 1993. The two have attached their measure to legislation — which the Senate may pass this week — that would provide $50 billion over the next five years to fight AIDS and other diseases in Africa and other poor areas...
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That's $25,000/year per patient of taxpayer money for the 25 years an AIDS patient is expected to live. How many of the 5 or 6 million annual new HIV cases will try to claim asylum in the US because the suffer discrimination in their country. 25 years of free care in the US beats the hell out of dying in 2 back home.
$50 billion foreign aid HIV treatment over 5 years is near the entire budget that the US spends on HIV. The US could spend $500 billion and it would make less than zero difference without getting people to change their selfish behaviors that transmit the infection. Even worse, it would increase the infection rate as many more infected would be healthy enough to spread the infection even faster.
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Wonder if the Americans that these AIDS immigrants will infect can sue Kerry and Smith for the death sentence imposed upon them? Or sue Tereza since she has the big bucks and will bet this is her idea since Jahn hasn't had one since slandering his comrades for personal political gain.
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Is this the type of AIDS activity Reverend Jeremiah Wright was referring to?
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Is there no end to the creative ways our Congress can figure out to spend hard earned American taxpayer money? I suggest getting the economy straightened out before they consider a new and creative way to spend American dollars. How about declaring a moratorium on new bills that require money? How about Kerry coughing up some of his wife's bucks through her charity?
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This woman and her friends need primetime exposure, badly. Then, let the games begin. Those who agree with her against those who disagree. I'll be on the majority side. Where will you be?
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County Official Leads Mob In Beating, Beheading And Parading Joe Arpaio Effigy Pinata.
There, fixed that.
Next time Joe should supply the pinata, the prize inside should be fire ants, since Meskins like things hot and spicy.
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County Official Leads Mob In Beating, Beheading And Parading Joe Arpaio Effigy Pinata.
There, fixed that.
Next time Joe should supply the pinata, the prize inside should be fire ants, since Meskins like things hot and spicy.
There, fixed that, too.
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Pretty simple - she is a member of the bar and the things she did violated the conduct stadards of the bar. File a complaint about here and her actiosn with the bar.
Smoking has been banned in Dutch bars since July 1.
Several dozen bars have joined the movement which claims the Dutch constitution and European rules give it legitimacy under the right to freedom of religion, the paper says.
People who join the church get a membership card entitling them to smoke inside the building. Worshippers believe in the trinity of smoke, fire and ash and honour their god by smoking.
Drat the luck! Jesse won’t be running. Only heard a few remarks from his Larry King show, but it brought back all the old memories – the same honking voice that sounds like he is trying to push a trombone out his nose, the same rhetorical bafflers, the same swipes at religion. That last one reminds you that Jesse regards himself as a freethinker who values his intellectual integrity – hence the 9/11 truther statements – but they also reminded one what a crude, graceless man he, er, seems to be sometimes. I remember when he was in the WWF. He had so much more class then.
His reasons are varied – the usual broadsides against the jackal media and so on – but one wishes he could have cited the strains of fundraising, if only so we could have a headline that said he “ain’t got time to plead.” Providing people still get a 20-year-old reference to “Predator,” that is. Personally, I'd like to see Jessie "The Body" and Garrison "Old Scout" Keillor in a steel cage deathmatch to decide who's more bitter and angry. I don't care who wins; I'd just be rooting for mayhem.
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A Guam restaurant patron would still like to see JESSE run as an INDEPENDENT POTUS CANDIDATE despite odds agz him winning, as is NOT impressed wid either MCCAIN or BARACK???
A funny thing happened over on the Barack Obama campaign website in the last few days.The parts that stressed his opposition to the 2007 troop surge and his statement that more troops would make no difference in a civil war have somehow disappeared.
A reminder of how carefully voters must listen during these last four campaign months. And remember what was said before then!
U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry is taking aim at the Acela bullet train, saying the 8-year-old line meant to zip passengers between Boston and Washington is riddled with speed and safety issues that have thrown its swift mission off track.
"Are you kidding? That train can go 150 miles an hour, (but) it goes that for, what, a couple of miles?" Kerry scoffed. "I want America to have a first-rate high-speed rail system. A high-speed rail that really lives up to the name and gets people there in the time that we ought to be aiming for."
Kerry plans to file in two weeks a $1 billion bill that will target out-of-date bridges, tunnels and tracks that prevent the train from hitting its 150-mile-per-hour maximum and getting commuters to their destinations faster. "The point is, it could be significantly shorter," Kerry said of the commute between Boston, New York and Washington, D.C. Currently the Acela train takes about 3 hours to get to New York, while a bus ride takes about four hours.
The train only hits its top speed of 150 miles an hour for about 18 miles in Massachusetts and Providence. "You know why it can't go 150 under Baltimore? Because it shakes the tunnel and it's unsafe for the city. You can't go over the bridges because they're unsafe because we haven't rebuilt them for high speed," Kerry said in a meeting with Herald reporters and editors.
While Amtrak took in more than $1.4 billion in federal funds last year, the curvature of the railroad tracks continues to be the main reason for the Acela's low speed in the northeast, said Amtrak spokeswoman Karina Romero.
Modernizing bridges and other infrastructure may increase the speed by 10 to 15 miles an hour, said Romero, but probably still would not bring the line to top speed, despite Kerry's remarks. Straightening the tracks along the heavily developed eastern rail would trigger many eminent domain takings, however. "The price would probably be exorbitant," Romero said about the number of land takings.
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Of course Kerry's ashamed of US trains - they don't match up to the French ones.
The infrastructure in the NE is indeed aging and does indeed need investment. How to do it without just introducing massive bloat and the sort of corruption seen in the Big Dig isn't clear. Maybe Kerry should work on the Boston problem first and propose a huge federal program when that one's complete.
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The Big Dig is a perfect example of graft, corruption and all kinds of political malfeasence.
That said it is also one incredible feat of engineering.
The first thing you have to realize is that most of the area it goes through is land fill some of which dates to the 18th century.
That landfill is already honeycombed with utility tunnels and the oldest subway system in the country. On top of that are the densely packed buildings and the large traffic volume. Oh and some of it goes under water.
A friend who was one of the chief engineers for part of it pointed out that (aside from the politics) the hardest thing he had to deal with was test bores. Usually you do a few to see what kind of stuff you'll be drilling through. But with the landfill you could get 5 totally different materials in a quarter mile or less!
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Hey! I like this. Get a Boston to anywhere high speed train so that BO can through Kerry under it. Big entertainment this election cycle is to watch BO through another one down.
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FOX NEWS this AM > Pert > POTUS MCCAIN andor POTUS OBAMA National Agendums = SOCIALISM.
IOW, 2008-2012 [2016?] > SOCIALISM WINS IN AMERIKA???
Al Queda may be a Jewish organization and Osama bin Laden may be Jewish. And I might be an Irish Methodist named Hop Ching.
These are the two points I will try to make in this essay. This is not an attempt to foist blame on the Jews, to victimize them or scapegoat them, something that has occurred throughout history. It is not intended to be an attack on Jews or an exercise in anti-Semitism. It is however, intended to raise questions. We can then form our own conclusions based on these questions and their purported answers and we can be the ones foisting blame on the Jews, victimizing them and scapegoating them.
If indeed my contention is correct, that bin Laden is Jewish and al Queda is a Jewish organization, then it is also true that some conclusions can be drawn about Jews in general and about the religion, the ideology, and the social structure of Judaism vis-Ã -vis or from the perspective of non-Jews, especially about world Jewry as an organized social and political phenomenon which revolves around the modern-day nation-state of Israel, a country physically situated in the Middle East. It also says something about a social milieu that would allow such a phenomenon to occur within Judaism and world Jewry, again from a non-Jewish perspective. "If I'm wrong, on the other hand, it simply means I'm a dipshit."
This is by no means intended to be all-inclusive. It is intended to equip non-Jews and Jews with a realistic perspective on the realm of the possible as well as provide a convincing argument that much of what is possible here in fact exists.
This is by no means intended to be all-inclusive. It is intended to equip non-Jews and Jews with a realistic perspective on the realm of the possible as well as provide a convincing argument that much of what is possible here in fact exists. This will no doubt be read, interpreted, and analyzed by Jews and non-Jews alike. Thus, what may prove to be a persuasive argument to some may well also fail to resonate entirely with others.
"If you're a dipshit, you'll find it persuasive. If not, you'll discard it with the other trash."
Nor is this simply an exercise in rhetoric. I have written this piece to attempt to provide insight into the social ills of our present time. Caveat lector. The reader beware.
I've actually come to the conclusion that these people lack the gene for feeling stoopid.
Much of the material for these conclusions was drawn from two books written by former counterterrorism security chief Richard A. Clarke. The two books are entitled Against All Enemies and The Scorpion's Gate. I have also drawn from several other sources including Worse Than Watergate, by John W. Dean, III, The Two Faces of Islam, by Stephen Schwartz, and Ghost Wars, by Steve Coll.
The Living Are Here
In a book, audiocassette and video by Ayn Rand entitled We the Living, [link] the author captures the indomitable will to survive of the Jewish people [link] in the title, and then in a series of books, attempts to codify this "will" into her own philosophy, called Objectivism [link]. This came about in the aftermath of the Nazi Holocaust of World War II, when Jews in Europe were systematically rounded up and slaughtered by Adolf Hitler's Third Reich. One of the reactions to this event is a slogan we've all heard, "Never Again." Never again would the Jews be slaughtered in such a fashion.
I'd call that the voice of sweet reason, myself.
But this is not the only by-product of the Holocaust. In my personal experience, it has also engendered a desire for revenge. My guess is that this occurs both on a conscious and an unconscious level, among many Jews, especially prominent Jews in the United States.
"This desire for revenge is visible to trained observers, though the untrained layman may miss it entirely.
Where does the anger go?
To Peshawar?
In contrast to the Christian and Muslim teaching of "forgive and forget," the Jewish mantra in this case is "never forget."
I try to go for "Never forgive, never forget, never 'understand,'" but then, I'm an agnostic, so my opinion doesn't count, certainly not in al-Andaluz.
But that still does not answer the question, "Where does the anger go?"
Nurse! Give him an enema!
While not forgetting, the task of the Jewish philosopher is to "enjoy" and to "live life to the fullest," "--L'chai-em!" The existence of Jews today is thus celebrated by the phrase "We the living," or the phrase, "The living are here."
"This is in contrast to the Christian and Muslim concept of 'them the dead,' or the phrase 'The dead are there.'"
But the phrase "the living are here" is a declaration that can be made in several different languages.
In fact, it can be made in any languge except Belgian.
Putting aside the question of how many languages there are today on this planet,
... and separation of 'language' from 'dialect' from 'mumbling' from 'Urdu'...
the principal languages of the Jewish people are relatively few. In addition to the principal world languages of English, French, German, Russian, Spanish, and Latin (now a "dead" language),
I confess. I killed it.
one notices a prominence of Yiddish, Hebrew, Greek, Arabic and Aramaic in Jewish cultural history today.
Jewish speakers of Vep, Yoruba, or any of the Athabaskan-descended languages are pretty rare. That fact is probably significant, especially if you're into numerology.
So when we say, "The living are here," or "We the living," we can say this in one or all of these languages or a combination thereof, and this can still be a contemporary proclamation of Jewish existence in the world today.
I'm assuming that sentence makes some sense to somebody. It goes right by me.
Thus, for example, we might combine Hebrew and German in making the same utterance. Hebrew is of course the language of Israel. German is the language from which the survivors of the Holocaust emerged. Thus, the Hebrew-German combination makes the declaration, "The living are here," all that much stronger.
"Is very fonny in Rossian!"
It is to say, in other words, "We, who are the children of Israel, and who have emerged out of the persecution of Nazi Germany, have once again emerged triumphant and steadfast, and we are here to claim what is rightfully ours, both as ordained by God and wrested with our own hands, in spite of Nazi Germany. We claim the right to be here --both in Israel and in Germany --and anywhere else we choose to be. We have conquered our adversaries. We will survive. And not even Nazi Germany can stop us!" This would be a strong statement, especially when made in German, because it also carries with it the tacit declaration, "In your face, Germany!"
Yeah! in Ihrem Gesicht, Deutschland! Oder etwas wie das.
So if the statement, "the living are here" were translated into a combination of Hebrew and German, what would it look like? What would the utterance be?
Incomprehensible to native Urdu speakers?
Upon visiting the public library and consulting a Hebrew-English dictionary, I learned that "al chai" (pronounced "al-khai") could mean "the" plus "living," or, "the living" in Hebrew. I also learned that "da" translates "are here" in German. Thus, the phrase "The living are here" would be "al chai da."
Upon visiting the public library and consulting a Hebrew-English dictionary, I learned that "al chai" (pronounced "al-khai") could mean "the" plus "living," or, "the living" in Hebrew. I also learned that "da" translates "are here" in German. Thus, the phrase "The living are here" would be "al chai da."
It makes no sense, but it would be something like that, though more likely "l'chai hier", which wouldn't suit the author's theory. It does, however, sound vaguely like le highchair, which would seem to be a reference partly in English and partly in Francaise to a baby, that is, to youth, to the young at heart, and finally to Jimmy Durante, who did have a big nose but wasn't Jewish... Where was I? Oh. Here....
Al Queda is also written "al-Qaida (Dean, Schwartz), which carries with it the same pronunciation as "al chai da." Thus, depending on how you pronounce it, al Queda can mean "The living are here."
I think Al Queda is the fellow who owns the landscaping company that did the elementary school. I dunno if he's Jewish or not. I don't think he's a terrorist.
My thesis is that al Queda, or al-Qaida (Dean, Schwartz) is a phrase that has a double meaning.
"Maybe triple! Or even quadruple!"
On the one hand, the meaning of the phrase "al Queda" is the conventionally understood meaning. It is a terrorist organization that is responsible for the September 11 attacks --or so we were told --and Osama bin laden is its head. It means "the foundation" in Arabic. This al Queda of course represents an international underground network of Arab Muslims who are involved in a jihad, or holy war, against the United States, Israel, and their allies. Or so we are told.
"Naturally, we're being lied to!"
In reality, however, this is only partly true and it is only part of the story. The name al Queda is a recruiting tool. Yes, it is used to convey the name of an organization that in Arabic means "the foundation." But it is what the phrase does that is important, not what it means. This phrase is used to induce, entice, and suborn young Arab Muslim males into joining a jihad and engaging in acts of terrorism. Both the phrase and the organization thus succeed in channeling hatred into violence --organized violence.
"The Indians of Central America when discovered by the men of al-Andaluz were Hebrew speakers, remnants of the ten lost tribes. Honest. I ain't makin' that up! But some of them spoke Welsh."
According to Richard A. Clarke in Against All Enemies, this al Queda is a Jewish organization created and operated by Jews loyal to Israel. It engenders and then manipulates and channels this hatred in young Arab Muslim males and then directs it against targets of its own choosing in the form of violence. Clarke argues that Wahhabi Islam was begun by Arab Jews and has been nourished, fostered, and promoted by the house of Saud since the 1700's.
According to Richard A. Clarke in Against All Enemies, this al Queda is a Jewish organization created and operated by Jews loyal to Israel. This al Queda recruits, tempts, engenders hatred in, and then uses Arab Muslims.
"Being the world's simplest people, they do as their told."
It engenders and then manipulates and channels this hatred in young Arab Muslim males and then directs it against targets of its own choosing in the form of violence. It uses religion --Wahhabi Islam, an aberrant form of Islam rejected by 90% of the Muslim world, to accomplish this end. Clarke argues that Wahhabi Islam was begun by Arab Jews and has been nourished, fostered, and promoted by the house of Saud since the 1700's.
I haven't read the book. Going by that statement, I don't want to.
Clarke suggests that the Sauds are actually Jews living in Saudi Arabia under complete secrecy and under the cover of being nominally and outwardly Arab. Although it might sound like a contradiction in terms, Clarke also suggests that Osama bin Laden is a Saudi Arabian Jew. So is Saudi Prince Turki Al-Faisal, the former head of Saudi Intelligence, Saudi Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, and Bandar's father, the Saudi Minister of Defense, as described in Richard A. Clarke's books, Against All Enemies and The Scorpion's Gate .
Clarke suggests that the Sauds are actually Jews living in Saudi Arabia under complete secrecy and under the cover of being nominally and outwardly Arab.
"All those moustaches? They're false. Even the ones on the women."
Although it might sound like a contradiction in terms, Clarke also suggests that Osama bin Laden is a Saudi Arabian Jew. So is Saudi Prince Turki Al-Faisal, the former head of Saudi Intelligence, Saudi Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, and Bandar's father, the Saudi Minister of Defense, as described in Richard A. Clarke's books, Against All Enemies and The Scorpion's Gate.
"Da" is Roossian for "yes," and "chai" is the word for "tea." So we could be considering "all the tea, yes, indeed!"
Clarke implies that this "al Chai da" could possibly be the Israeli Mossad's answer to anti-Israeli Arab terrorism. Instead of running away from or fighting Arab terrorism, the strategy here is to "take the bull by the horns," to re-channel it, and control it. This strategy is to lead others into temptation, a notion that would be considered un-Christian because it conflicts with the part of the Lord's Prayer which says, "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, Amen."
But he's talking about Jews, who don't pay any attention to the Lord's Prayer.
But let's not forget that the Jews are not Christian and Israel is not a Christian nation.
I just said that, didn't I? Is this guy being paid by the word? Which word?
Since the Lord's Prayer assumes that Jesus is Lord, and Jews do not, there is no conflict.
That makes sense. Kinda. Sorta. In an Islamic kinda way. I guess.
This is something most contemporary Christians and so-called Christians fail to realize.
I always make the effort to realize three illogical things before breakfast every morning, except when we're having pancakes.
In rabbinical teaching, (rabbinical law), it is not considered immoral or contrary to God's laws to lead someone else into temptation --especially when that "someone" is your adversary. The teaching is simple and clear: If you're against me, I'll take you down --any way I can. Period. The craftiest way is to use someone else's energy against him, like in Tai-Chi.
Now we're getting to the meat of his argument: Rabbinacal Tai Chi masters! Damn them! That explains so much!
In this way, it is possible to lead someone to bring himself down rather than to have to resort to bringing someone else down yourself.
So what he's saying is, if I learn Rabbinical Tai Chi, and I set fire to myself, he's the one's gonna burn to the ground? Kewl!
The best part about doing it this way is, this method escapes the attention of the public view. To all appearances, you didn't do anything; --they did it to themselves.
That's why nobody can find any proof.
In this way, the purpose of al Queda is to use the hatred of Arabs toward Israel against themselves in such a way that they bring themselves down.
A little off the top there, Occam...
Thus, al Queda leads others into temptation and then uses or re-channels their hatred to kill others who are enemies of al Queda's choosing. It uses the hatred of others (Arab Muslims) to induce or suborn them to kill and carry out acts of terrorism, and this killing is thereby done to serve those who control the organization --or think they control the organization. At least, that was the purpose of the organization when it was created.
All is illusion. In fact, you only think you're reading this. You're actually not even reading. You've been drinking. You've been drinking for a very long time. That's why you can't remember anything. But when you wake up you'll be mostly sober, though you'll have a really bad headache. But it won't really be a headache. You only think you've been drinking. That wasn't gin, you know...
When was al Queda created and how did it come about?
To whit, why was it born?
Ah, that is another question, which I shall get to in a moment. But first, I wanted to show that there are two meanings of the phrase al Queda.
"One of them is 'khaderd,' the Egyptian word meaning 'to eat fat.'"
This is the first: Al Queda is the terrorist organization behind the September 11 attacks. Or so we've been told.
"But by whom? That is the question, is it not? At least I think it's the question. Have I been drinking? Or is that another question?"
The second and less well-known meaning of al Queda is "al-chai da," The living are here. It is a proclamation of the indomitable Jewish spirit, from Abraham to post-Nazi Germany, and then to say "In your face, Germany!" This phrase holds a special significance when understood to mean, "The living are here" for contemporary Jews. Many uneducated Jews, however, have no clue of this meaning.
I certainly don't, and I'm not even Jewish...
The difficulty for Jews is that this meaning of the phrase can only be taught in a cult of secrecy.
But we know the Secret Handshake. Life hasn't been the same for us Illuminati since the Blacks discovered it. Now we see it every football game, if we're not watching the cheerleaders.
That certainly puts a damper on "spreading the word" to other Jews, especially to those who do not believe Jews need to live in secrecy. But for many Jews, living in secrecy is no big deal. Jews have been doing it for thousands of years for fear of persecution. And Saudi Arabian Jews (not a contradiction in terms) still live in secrecy today.
Really super deep cover, in fact...
To one extent or another, Jews live in secrecy everywhere, for the more Orthodox one's views, (if one is Jewish), the more one lives at a variance with the prevailing views of society as a whole, except in Israel.
They still have discos there, so you can be yourself.
As the world becomes more Orthodox, however, this of course is changing.
There are secret disco dance clubs in every major city in the world now, each playing Blondie and Donna Summer and the Commodores each and every night to men and women wearing polyester as they give vent to their inner selves.
Osama bin Laden: The Saudi Arabian Jew?
Immediately after the September 11 attacks, President Bush let Osama bin Laden get away (along with over a hundred of his immediate relatives --all Saudi Arabian.) How is this possible? (See Fahrenheit 9/11).
President Bush then gave Osama bin Laden a two-months head start before going after him by invading and bombing Afghanistan. How is this possible? (See Richard Clarke's' recorded CNN interview on Fahrenheit 9/11).
At some point in the "hunt for al Queda," President Bush adopted the attitude that he really didn't give that much thought to Osama bin Laden or his whereabouts or apprehending him. Instead, the President insisted that, "He's been marginalized." How is this possible? (Fahrenheit 9/11). How is it possible that the man who is the head of a terrorist organization responsible for the September 11 attacks can somehow no longer be on the mind of a "war president?" (Fahrenheit 9/11). How is it possible that the President, the nation's top law enforcement officer, can no longer feel it is important enough to keep this in the forefront of his mind? It is utterly incredible, but this is not only possible but actually the case.
The question then becomes, what motivations would George W. Bush have for doing these things? There are many. But few have managed to attract the public notice. The most logical explanation for President George W. Bush's behavior with respect to these questions is: Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush were working together.
Now it is worthwhile to take a look at how al Queda originated and when it came into being. As Clarke explains in Against All Enemies, Osama bin Laden and his original "Army of Arabs" came into being when the USSR was occupying Afghanistan in 1986. At the time, they were called by various names: the Afghan Arabs, the Afghan warriors, the Afghan freedom fighters, the Afghan resistance movement, and the mujahedeen (or "muj" for short). They were armed by the CIA to repel the Soviets.
Richard A. Clarke, under the direction of several prominent American Jews loyal to Israel in high positions of the United States government during the Reagan administration and assisted by then-Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush, armed Osama bin Laden and his "Army of Arabs." (See Clarke, Against All Enemies). At the time, Richard A. Clarke was working in the State Department under the direction of Leslie Gelb and Morton Abramowitz. In the Department of Defense, Richard Perle and Caspar Weinberger were the decision-makers. Willam Casey was the head of the CIA. In Against All Enemies, Clarke describes how the United States government under the direction of these individuals, provided Osama bin Laden and his mujahedeen fighters with Stingers, U.S.-made shoulder-launched infrared seeking anti-aircraft missiles. Clarke says this tipped the scales in favor of the mujahedeen. The missiles were used to shoot down Soviet attack helicopters that were terrorizing the mujahedeen.
Clarke makes a conclusive case in Against All Enemies that the only way for these four prominent American Jews in the federal government at the time --Gelb, Abramowitz, Perle, and Weinberger --to have covertly equipped an "Army of Arabs" with Stinger missiles --is if the entire operation of mujahedeen fighters --the "Army of Arabs" --was run by Jews. The person at the top of the mujahedeen organization was Osama bin Laden. In the 1980's, prominent American Jews were obsessed with Arabs. Israel was deathly afraid of them. My thesis here is that in this scenario, there is "no way in hell" that Leslie Gelb, Morton Abramowitz, Richard Perle, and Caspar Weinberger would have armed an "Army of Arabs" unless the Jews were in complete control of the entire operation.
Richard A. Clarke reveals in his book Against All Enemies that the idea for putting Osama bin Laden in charge as well as creating an "Army of Arabs" came from Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Turki Al-Faisal. Since the idea came from Prince Turki, in this scenario, Prince Turki would have also had to have been Jewish, and a Jew loyal to Israel.
At the conclusion of the "Arab Afghan War," the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden and his Arab Afghan freedom fighters (the mujahedeen) made off with the remaining Stingers under the cover of an explosion at the munitions site that "shook the nearby city of Rawalpindi for hours."(My emphasis added -See Clarke, page 50, Against All Enemies). Clarke cautions the reader at the beginning of Against All Enemies by saying, "The close reader will note..." (Page xii.), but this also alerts the reader to the fact that he has concealed juicy details within the text that require a close reading to be fully understood. Obviously, if it was an explosion, it would not have "shook the nearby city of Rawalpindi for hours." Clarke is careful to reveal facts that were reported --as they were reported. This protects him from the accusation of divulging classified material. The only explanation for ground-shaking to have occurred for hours is either a) there was an unusually long earthquake, or b) this shaking of the ground was caused by heavy trucks that were used to transport the artillery --including the Stingers. Clarke says on page 50 "some were not accounted for." The only entity capable of making off with this cache of artillery in heavy trucks was the Soviets. The only logical explanation for this is that the KGB was behind it. Clarke says, "I could never prove that Soviet KGB had ordered these two acts... but I knew in my bones they had." (Page 50). Two things. First, he all but says it was the Soviets. Second, he provides himself with an "out" by saying, "I knew in my bones." This is an expression, but it can't be taken literally for obvious reasons. (The locus of human knowledge is the brain, not one's bones.)
This passage in Against All Enemies also contains a reference to U.S. Ambassador Arnold L. Raphel, who, along with the "military ruler of Pakistan" was killed in an "unexplained aircraft crash" immediately following the explosion that "shook the nearby city of Rawalpindi for hours." Clarke explains this in The Scorpion's Gate. He reveals by inference that the CIA retaliated against Arnold Raphel and the Pakistani ruler for the theft of the munitions dump, especially the Stingers. That means the CIA determined that they were also involved. Now we have Arnold Raphel, a very Jewish name, involved in the disappearance of the remaining Stingers. We have the KGB involvement. We have the military ruler of Pakistan involved. Here is my analysis on that: According to Clarke's scenario, The KGB also had to have been controlled by Jews loyal to Israel, who aided the Jewish-controlled mujahedeen in making off with the weapons. The military ruler of Pakistan also had to be Jewish, and a Jew loyal to Israel. The CIA, smelling betrayal, assassinated both the military ruler of Pakistan and Ambassador Arnold Raphel in retaliation, as Clarke says in Against All Enemies.
Clarke reveals later in Against All Enemies how the Stingers turned up in Somalia and were used to shoot down a U.S. attack helicopter in the infamous "Black Hawk Down" incident. By then, bin Laden was helping Somali warlord Farah Aideed. The implication or suggestion here is that Farah Aideed was also a Jew loyal to Israel, pretending to be Muslim.
This article starring:
Ayn Rand
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My first thought was YJCMTSU, but obviously you can. Whatever he's been smoking was laced with something mighty strong.
As a bonus: the Christian and Muslim teaching of "forgive and forget,"
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But this is not the only by-product of the Holocaust. In my personal experience, it has also engendered a desire for revenge.
As an aside, one somewhat common conspiracy theory among the french nationalists (judging from comments on the main blog of the family) is that the ongoing mass immigration from the third world into western countries & the islamization of Europe is a plot hatched by the jooooooooooos to exact revenge for the holocaust; alternatively, it's the americans, to torpedo the old continent (or both, I guess, possibly). Anyway, it's either that, or free-market ideology & capitalism, can't be anything else, there must be scapegoats (and chavez and putin and am-in-a-jihad are swell guys, nationalist leaders swimming against the Empire rising tide).
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I think I get it. I'm my own mother and I'm about to give birth, but I've got to kill myself to keep that from happening. Am I close? Diseased minds know no limits.
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If I'm my own grampaw, I think I'll take myself fishing so I have one of those senior moments I'll treasure for the rest of my life.
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Might just be me, but I think this guy has a problem with "Jews". Also interesting to see that he didn't have the stones to put his name on this opus.
Smart thinking. The Mossad is everywhere.
And, yes, I would very much like to sample whatever he's smoking, injecting, or snorting.
These guys are just not co-terminous with the same reality as you and me. On the plus side, the claim of Al-Q being jewish means that we have won. I think.
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The author does indeed raise questions--confirming the author is a certified loon--and makes me wonder about Clarke, Dean, and the others if their writings led him to this!
However, I draw some very different conclusions from his points. Satanism is said to be the mirror image of Christianity, utilizing similar words and concepts in an attempt to deceive with a very good counterfeit of the original. The Bible utilizes double entendres, anagrams, and other literary devices to poke fun at the mockery of God. I'd say Bin Laden and Al Qaida are clearly satanic and the use of the name COULD be a mockery of Judaism.
Oh, and Fred's comment, "The Indians of Central America when discovered by the men of al-Andaluz were Hebrew speakers, remnants of the ten lost tribes. Honest. I ain't makin' that up! But some of them spoke Welsh." makes more sense than the author! Following his type of convoluted logic, if you can: The Lost Tribe of Dan, affiliated with the coastal Sea-faring Phoenicians, are said to have traveled with them to distant lands, intermixing with the peoples such as the De-Danaan of Ireland and those of Dan-mark. The dark-haired Black Irish are descendents of the Spanish/Moorish conquest of Eire. The red haired Irish are said to be descendents of the Vikings. Could it be they are related to the ruddy-faced Jewish David? St. Patrick, a captured slave and sailor, converted the indigenous pagans in the land he was exiled to. Makes sense to me if the Irish/Welsh were forced into sailor slavery and sent to the New World!
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I would say this is more evidence that Al Queda has lost the war for the hearts and minds of Muslims and they are the weak horse and everyone knows it.
He is conflicted. As a Muslim child he would have been taught that Muslims are good, peaceful people. He has been taught that Jews are bad people. He has also been taught that Muslims are rulers. They are conquerors. This is the reward from Allah. As a non-Arab Muslim in the era of petro-dollars, he has looked towards Arabia for inspiration.. an Arab must be an especially good Muslim. Just like the prophet and his companions.
He is confronted with Al-Qaeda. This seeks to destroy his state (Pakistan) which he has been taught is a homeland for Muslims. This organization is responsible for killing, strife, etc - many bad things. They have been unable to defeat the infidels. How then could they be Muslim? After all, Muslims are good people. Muslims are victorious people. Allah blesses good Muslims with victory. OBL clearly hasn't been blessed.
Hence, they must really be Jews.
"Islam is in its origins an Arab religion. Everyone not an Arab who is a Muslim is a convert. Islam is not simply a matter of conscience or private belief. It makes imperial demands. A convert's worldview alters. His holy places are in Arab lands; his language is Arabic. His idea of history alters. He rejects his own; he becomes, whether he likes it or not, a part of the Arab story. The convert has to turn away from everything that is his. The disturbance for societies is immense, and even after a thousand years can remain unresolved; the turning away has to be done again and again. People develop fantasies about who and what they are; and in the Islam of the converted countries there is an element of neurosis and nihilism. These countries can be easily set on the boil."
- VS Naipaul
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and in the Islam of the converted countries there is an element of neurosis and nihilism. These countries can be easily set on the boil."
Not a typo in the title, that's a 'Big zero'.
Democrat Barack Obama wants to prove he's ready to be a wartime commander in chief. Republican John McCain hopes to sell the idea that his rival is not. Negative campaigner! Bad McCain!
The return of Iraq and Afghanistan to the forefront of the presidential campaign illustrates how both sides increasingly seem to view the race as largely a referendum on Obama, a first-term Illinois senator trying to become the first black president. Or largely a referendum on Bush, depending on the mood.
"I will end this war as president," Obama said of Iraq and promised anew that he would redirect U.S. efforts to Afghanistan. The likely Democratic nominee struck a stately pose Tuesday as he delivered a lengthy foreign policy address ahead of an upcoming overseas trip. He spoke from a podium that said "Judgment to Lead" set up before an array of American flags.
Answering Obama, McCain gave his own speech in which the ex-Navy pilot, Vietnam prisoner of war and four-term Arizona senator cited his decades of military experience to paint his rival as unprepared. "I know how to win wars," the GOP nominee-in-waiting asserted, leaving unspoken the blatently obvious suggestion that Obama does not. "In wartime, judgment and experience matter. ... The commander in chief doesn't get a learning curve." Except for Jimmy Carter, and he didn't learn anything.
Clearly, the race is on to define the still relatively unknown Obama, and whichever candidate does a better job making his case could well win the White House. Their dueling foreign policy remarks Tuesday underscored as much. How could he be the nominee of half the country, and still be 'relatively unknown'? Oh, unless it's because you can never nail him down on a position?
To be sure, Obama criticized the waging of the Iraq war, and national security as a whole, under President Bush, while McCain argued that last year's troop increase strategy that Bush championed was appropriate. Not to mention, successful.
But with polls showing national security is an area in which Obama lags McCain, Obama largely sought to portray himself as competent to lead the country in the face of national security threats - and answer voters' worries - while McCain tried to raise questions about the fitness of Obama to oversee a nation at war - and stoke voters concerns. Whereas the Big 0 talks about specifics - hope and change.
In surveys, McCain leads Obama on the question of who would a good commander in chief. And an AP-Yahoo poll taken last month showed 39 percent said McCain would do a better job of handling Iraq, compared with 33 percent for Obama. I wonder who they thought would do a better job than McCain? Does this smell like a bad poll?
"This campaign is not going to be about McCain," said Chris Lehane, a Democrat who worked on Al Gore's presidential campaign in 2000. "It's ultimately going to be an up or down vote on whether the country is ready for the change Obama represents. Whatever we decide that is"
Todd Harris, a Republican aide on McCain's 2000 White House bid, said that given the mood of the country, "there might be a lot of voters who would never choose McCain over Obama. But they might look at Obama and decide he is not acceptable and, therefore, by default vote for McCain."
Republicans and Democrats alike say this campaign could be shaping up as the mirror image of the 1980 presidential race. Back then, the public wasn't happy with Democrat Jimmy Carter in the White House. The economy was tanking. There was turmoil overseas with hostages in Iran and soaring oil prices. Republican Ronald Reagan represented a different type of politician, yet voters were questioning whether he was up to the job. That kept the contest relatively close through the summer. Eventually, Reagan endeared himself to voters, eased their concerns and won handily that fall.
Voters crave a new direction after eight years of Bush bashing. Wall Street is in turmoil, gasoline and food prices soar. Wars rage in Iraq according to the MSM view and Afghanistan. And, while the political environment solidly tilts in Democrats' favor and the party has a fresh face as its expected nominee, the race remains close four months before the election - certainly, at least in part, because of doubts about Obama. Isn't that the way it always is, AP? Some folks vote for a candidate, and some vote against his rival? Thus, Obama is working to fill in the blanks for voters who are uneasy about him. His speeches and ads flesh out details of his biography and proposals. And he casts himself as a transformational figure who transcends partisanship and brings fresh ideas to fix Washington. Yea, TEAM!
Make no mistake: Obama, himself, recognizes the odds of a black man with only a few years of national political experience and a different-sounding name winning the presidency. "John McCain calls himself the underdog. I will simply point out, for reasons you might consider apparent, that I am the underdog. I will be the underdog until I'm sworn in," Obama said wryly last week at an Atlanta fundraiser.
McCain's latest campaign ad signaled a fresh underhanded, unfair, scurrilous, Cheney-Rove-like effort to raise questions about Obama. Without mentioning Obama, it referenced his eloquent rhetoric and frequent use of the word "hope" to suggest the Democrat could not guarantee results.
"Beautiful words cannot make our lives better. But a man who has always put his country and her people before self, before politics, can," the ad says. "Don't 'hope' for a better life. Vote for one." I liked the ad.
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Obama, a first-term Illinois senator trying to become the first black president.
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FREEREPUBLIC Article on why the GOP often fails to attract the Black Vote in America despite being the ANTI-SLAVERY + CIVIL RIGHTS PARTY VV DEMS > Author argues that most contempor Blacks or African-Amers ARE MORE INTERESTED IN PERENNIAL GOVT-LED HANDOUTS THAN THE PAST HISTORY OF THEIR PARTICULAR ETHNIC GROUP IN AMERICA, TO INCLUD WHICH POL PARTY HELPED/BENEFITED THEM THE MOST???
* FREEP Poster - "Gimmie-crats"???
* Other FREEP Poster - OPINED IT IS LIKELY BEST FOR THE GOP = MCCAIN THIS 2008 ELEX TO CONSIDER NOMINATING A WOMAN VPOTUS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THE BLACK VOTE VV DEM OBAMA, as oppos to a pro-GOP Black or other Minority Male VPOTUS???
Widin the scope of the above, CAN MCCAIN WIN 2008 WID A WOMAN = MINORITY FEMALE VEEP!?
U.S. and Afghan troops have abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine American soldiers this week, officials said Wednesday. U.S. troops armed local police with more than 20 guns before they left, but that the officers had fled the village and crossed into neighboring Kunar province when 100 militants moved into Wanat.
Compounding the military setback, insurgents quickly seized the village of Wanat in Nuristan province after driving out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices, Afghan officials said. Some 50 officers were headed to the area to try to regain control, said Ghoolam Farouq, a senior provincial police official. With 100 bad guyz in the village? I don't like those odds.
Sunday's attack by some 200 militants armed with machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars was the deadliest for the U.S. military in Afghanistan in three years. Rebels fought their way into the newly established base, wounding another 15 Americans and suffering heavy casualties of their own, before the defenders and warplanes could drive them back.
NATO said the post, which lies amid precipitous mountains close to the Pakistan border, had been vacated, but insisted that international and Afghan troops will "retain a strong presence in that area with patrolling and other means."
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Didn't I read a report about how the US or NATO was sending reinforcements?
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Well, my thinking would be, Talibunnies see it as victory, gather at the outpost to party and that's when the B-1B flies overhead and drops however many thousands of pounds of bombs that thing carries. Our troops come back, count the bodies and give the Talibunnies the finger.
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It wouldn't be "abandoning", but more of a advancement to a more defensible area. Most likely, the post is exposed and not easily reinforced by air and/or ground. Redeploying to another area to wait for a local "surge" (aka, reinforcements) is the most likely scenario. Unlike the French at Dien Bien Phu, we won't commit to defending an indefeasible position.
Don't worry, we'll be back. And with more kick ass tools and soldiers.
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From the sense of things from a couple of local platoon and company commanders that just deployed back here (granted they aren't on the border, but you can get a sense of things on a base that has flights to the border for support), that the local US command has had it with the cross border raids that are so like Cambodia during Vietnam and the higher ups have given the green light to get ready to strike back.
Now granted this might be just local camp rumor, but several articles from news sources from around the world seem to confirm it. Now that Iraq is getting on its feet, the military machine of the US is getting ready to put the Pakistani militants out of business.
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this loss of nine soldiers and this post calls for a review of the local commanders competence.That post should have been covered night and day by cap s either uav or manned and it should not have been possible to mass forces as they apparently did. A real failure of tactical thinking .Does it suggest a shortage of the right kind of air cover available?If so slow down the outposts until it can be done correctly..
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hope some of you wise folks will comment on this ... don't really get the concept of abandoning the post
You want to kill the enemy. It's not necessarily terrain that is important. Terrain is a tool, not an end. Since we know they can not hold terrain in the face of concentrated American combat power, the best way to get them to stand on Afghan soil, is to present them with 'bait' they can not refuse, particularly when they're engaged in 'war by media'. Force or entice them to mass and they present an easier target and reveal their routes and base[s] of operations. An abandoned isolated base is a great target for arc lighting with a lot less civies around. Baby ducks, bunny rabbits and unicorns, not so much. It does wonders in clearing out the rookies they've assembled in the off season that have been called to the majors for a shot.
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Pakistan has and will always be an enemy of the USA/West!!!
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This loss of nine soldiers and this post calls for a review of the local commanders competence.
Can't defend everywhere.
A small, remote post most likely was an Observation Point that NATO was using to peer into Pakland to keep tabs on what was going on. The soldiers would have had orders to bug out at the first sign of people coming up, or if their position was compromised, to hole up and wait for the bombers.
Most likely (and I'm speaking from my old Infantry doctrine here) is that a platoon sized element was there and only was putting out minimal patrols to keep their presence quiet. A local most likely told the talibunnies they were there and the talibunnies sneaked into position during the night and did a massive human wave attack to surprise the defenders.
The tactic would have worked against local troops, or policemen. But against US soldiers that will fight hard and can call in heavier guns, at best you have a 50-50 chance in the first 10 minutes to do the most damage. If you don't get the US soldiers after that, bug out. The talibunnies apparently had their blood up and paid the price when the Americans recovered, stood their ground and then the bombers showed up.
The question that stands out for me is, "Why this post?" Were they trying to keep us blind to this area? Good Attack of Opportunity for PR? Local warlord insulted by the US presence because he has a small wang?
Either way, the outcome is our full attention is brought to that area and the talibunnies died in droves and it proved to the rest of the Afghans and Paklanders in that area, that our troops are not paper tigers.
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DarthVader,
This is where they were. To put it nicely, Sun Tzu would not have advised defending that position. They were overlooked by the village of Wanat on three sides, the villagers were hostile, the terrorists had the advantage of local knowlage from the villagers. The Allies have now abandoned the outpost, but they should never gone in. I hope the village has been razed, including the mosque.
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In Algeria? That is where that Google map leads...
You always have to assume the villagers will be hostile, or at least a source of information for the enemy. The lack of a quick egress rout seems to be the main failure here. We were always trained to operate behind enemy lines and the first thing we looked at in setting up a OP is how we get the hell out quickly with multiple overwatch sites and a nearby LZ if we need to call for evacuation.
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DV, sorry about that, tried again and the linky didn't work..strange.
Anyhow try this:
http://tinyurl.com/5r34du
Hit satellite and move adjustment down one tick.
The point I was obliquely trying to make was that it resembled Dien Bien Phu too much.
http://tinyurl.com/63dsq6
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As an old Cav Scut, OP/LP is soemthing these guys woudl have been doing from the COP. And that is liekly the reason the Taliban doesnt want the COP there. Had they been able to set up, register supprot fires, etc, then reinforce, that COP would have been able to send otu effective LP/OP teams, and set remote sensors, etc- essentally locking down that sector, opening any infiltrators to interdicting fires.
I say watch and see how we come back into that are.
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What about the motion detectors, infrared locaters, and disclosing trip wires that are available to protect a small base?
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The most amazing thing to me is that the Talibs were able to approch the outpost at all for a surprise attack. Wasn't there a defensive perimeter set up around the camp (of course, I don't know the terrain - this might not have been possible for that location). In any case, even if we cannot intrude into the high holy soverign shithole of Pakland, why isn't everything goatpath-sized and above on the Afganistan side mined to hell and back, with more mines on the mines (again, the terran might make this impossible, but lets do what we can). Any tunnels should be immediately collapsed as well. I will not accept any sob-stories regarding poor civilians having to use them as trade routes, etc.. We know who the enemy is and where they come from; let's just announce that as of some date anyone using that area will automaticaly be considered a hostile. Destroying the roach nest would definitely be best, but destroying their means of ingress and egress will have to do for now as second best.
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It may be that the site for the new base was undefendable and HAD to be abandoned. But in any case, the local Jihadis must be wildly overconfident. That's gotta be worth something.
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Darth and Procopius make sense, but still horrible news of 9 dead.
The other most interesting fact is the short presence - actually sounds like we're on the move and an advance party got caught.
The better news - the article from the Times, and the learning opportunities this presents, particularly if we have enough intel to achieve any sort of encirclement along with the incursion into the non-national, unsovereign FATA.
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The other most interesting fact is the short presence - actually sounds like we're on the move and an advance party got caught.
Don't becloud us with another view.
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The first thing I thought of when I read this was what Viet Nam era moron failed to learn his lessons regarding firebases and losing lives to defend a position you're just going to give back to the enemy when it's over anyay?
I'm still in that camp. If this position was indefensible, why was it so, why did it cost 9 American lives and 15 more wounded to figure that out, and, after that high cost, why wasn't it defended with everything in the US arsenal including turning this village to rubble and making the rubble bounce?
Te firebase concept being used in Afghanistan was proven to be outmoded and essentially indefensible more than 30 years ago. Will we never learn?
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... the local US command has had it with the cross border raids that are so like Cambodia during Vietnam ...
Let's hope we handle the Paks and the Talibunnies better than we handled the NVA. No sanctuaries, no announcing our missions in advance, and no proportionate response. If we're going to hit 'em, hit 'em hard, without warning, and where they aren't looking.
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hit 'em hard, without warning, and where they aren't looking
I'm very OK with them looking, and soiling themselves as the strong horse smites their pissant lives
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Seven people were wounded on Wednesday when bombs exploded outside two of the biggest police stations in Thailand's Muslim south, where a terrorist jihad separatist insurgency is raging, police said. The bombs exploded Wednesday morning outside the main police stations in the key regional towns of Pattani and Yala, police said. Seven people, including three police, were wounded in the Pattani blast, which exploded in the heart of the region's most important town, police added. The blast in Yala damaged the gate to the station, and appeared coordinated with a smaller blast that went off almost simultaneously in a local transport office, police said. No one was injured in the Yala blasts.
The bombings marked a rare attack in the downtown districts of key towns in the region along the southern border with Malaysia. The explosions came one day after Thailand extended emergency rule over the region, where 3,300 people have died in four years of unrest.
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It probably is just words. Little man needs to keep the homefolks about the evil external force so that he can keep a grip on them. Politics with the purpose of self preservation. Very popular stuff.
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It makes me laugh cynically whenever I hear someone proclaim that we should not whup some tyranny because it might be overthrown by a bunch of whiny college undergraduates in a revolution.
They can never imagine that the reason they are tyrannies in the first place is precisely because they have eliminated any serious competition and that even they know that the whiny undergraduates couldn't find their collective butts with a road map and a flashlight.
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Shouldn't take them too lightly. Their conventional arms may be shoddy, but they have reasonable access to soft targets and they've got a bunch of ready-made useful idiots in the Shi'ite south of Iraq.
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Yeah, but those guys seem to divided loyalties. When it would cause their clan more trouble than the mullahs are worth. They only work from one paycheck to the next.
AUSSIES who find themselves under threat are more likely to shoot at Muslims, especially if they're in a good mood, a study claims.
Researchers at the University of New South Wales have found that Australians perceive Muslim-style headgear as a threat, even if they don't realise they hold any prejudice. The study, published in The Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, involved 66 uni students playing a computer game in which different male and female figures appeared on a balcony.
Some figures were wearing Muslim-style turbans or hijabs while others were bareheaded. Participants were asked to shoot at the targets carrying guns and spare those who were unarmed. Researchers found that those with Muslim-style headgear were more likely to be shot, even if they were carrying non-threatening items such as a boom-vest coffee mug, with both male and female students demonstrating a bias.
They also found that while "angry" participants shot at everybody, "happy" people targeted Muslims. "It's what we predicted," said Dr Tom Denson, one of the researchers. "People in happy moods tend to rely on stereotyping more. It's like, I'm feeling good, there's no need to question things.
"Muslims tend to be portrayed negatively in the media so the findings make sense, even in an otherwise tolerant western society like Australia."
Dr Denson insisted the study was not about aggressive behaviour, but about automatic processes that people go through when faced with quick decisions. "These people don't really have control over their actions," he said. "They're pressing buttons really fast and forced to make split-second decisions. One thing that can help you make a split-second decision is a stereotype."
Dr Denson said similar studies had been conducted in the United States, where African-Americans were more readily targeted, but that this study was the first to look at the effect a participant's mood could have on the result.
To manipulate mood, students received negative, positive or neutral feedback from what they believed to be fellow students. Their happiness, anger or lack of either was then assessed by a rating scale. The study also showed that men were more likely to be targeted, a finding "consistent with other reserach findings that males are commonly seen as more threatening or dangerous".
The bias to shoot was strongest for Muslim, non-Caucasian male target figures and weakest for non-Muslim, Cacausian female targets.
Dr Denson did concede the addition of headgear may simply have made targets more visible and could have had a "compounding effect" on the findings.
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They also found that while "angry" participants shot at everybody, "happy" people targeted Muslims.
I'm no good at identifying verb tenses and parts of speech. Would the word targeted be some kind of past tense in this case or some kind of present progressive verb?
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Researchers at the University of New South Wales have found that Australians perceive Muslim-style headgear as a threat, even if they don't realise they hold any prejudice.
That's not prejudice, it's experience and common sense.
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The study also showed that men were more likely to be targeted, a finding "consistent with other reserach findings that males are commonly seen as more threatening or dangerous".
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"Muslims tend to be portrayed negatively in the mediaaccurately in the news so the findings make sense, even in an otherwise tolerant western society like Australia."
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They should run this test where I live.
We haven't played cowboys and muslims yet.
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Aussies, we luv ya. Any turban is a certain target for me. Goin to adjust elevation for a 3 " drop at 300 yds....right twixt the bushy brows. Explosszion !
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I bet if they were shown someone in gang clothes (Whatever that looks like in Australia) they'd get similar ratings. Same with someone in a skimask and other criminal paraphernalia. This just mean that the the Jihadists have moved the rest of their religion into the category of "keep an eye on them in case."
I would suggest that any Muslims in Australia that are bothered by this (especially the Afghan and Iraqi refugees) should go to their home countries where Muslims are plentiful, and then help fix that home country.
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I shoot all the males first, then look over the females before shooting some of them. I use judgement and cold logic to make my choices. But I do find it difficult to stop before running out of ammo.
Workin on it.
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Wow. People dressed like bandits get picked out in shooting situations. Illuminating. Do cell phones count as weapons doctor?
"It's what we predicted," said Dr Tom Denson, one of the researchers.
"Muslims tend to be portrayed negatively in the media so the findings make sense, even in an otherwise tolerant western society like Australia."
Isn't that, like, your opinion man. I've seen better objectivity from cat food.
This reads like bias-driven research because I could come up with different conclusions based on this article. Wonder how many wild west cowboy-bandit pictures were included...klansmen...people in ski masks...
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I'd use the criteria that the TSA uses while screening airline passengers thru the security checkpoints. I'd only shoot those with shoelaces, boxcutters, rolled up magazines, water bottles, shampoo, the turbaned or not, anything resembling an explosive, corkscrews for opening wine, religious books, anything else that could be used as a weapon. I'd be discreet and judicious while playing this video game.
Another study that can be widely generalized to college students playing a computer video game in New South Wales, Australia.
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The headline and initial paragraph are so biased I didn't read further, but it fricking screams for a control group. Did they run a similar test in, say, Qatar, to see if they'd be gunning down the proverbial Swedish grandmothers? For that matter, how do you distinguish "happy" and "angry" Aussies, let alone Qataris?
(Xinhua) -- President Robert Mugabe has said he has no assets in foreign countries and told the British and the European Union to seize any if they find them, according to a report by Zimbabwe's state-owned The Herald newspaper Tuesday.
This report came after British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said on Monday that he had asked the British Finance Ministry to hunt down the assets of senior Zimbabwean officials and pledged to ramp up the illegal sanctions.
The report quoted analysts as saying that Britain's move is aimed to help Zimbabwean opposition MDC-T leader Morgan Tsvangirai, who won a leading number of votes in Zimbabwe's first round of presidential election but boycotted the run-off, citing violence against his supporters as the major reason.
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I guess that means he must have bags of Zimbucks stashed away in Swiss safety deposit boxes.
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This report came after British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said on Monday that he had asked the British Finance Ministry to hunt down the assets
Easily done. For the past 30 years, Comrade Mugabe's biggest 'asset' has been a feckless, guilt-ridden WEST, screaming apartheid and hellbent on native African governance. Buteo rufofuscus home to roost I'd say.
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Try the British offshore banks in the Caribbean. Besides the Caymans, Bahamas, and Antigua, it is the BVI's largest industry. Mugabe sympathizers amongst former slaves have a lot of antipathy toward their former Colonizers.
A security forces personnel was killed when unidentified men fired a rocket at a checkpost in Dera Bugti on Tuesday, police sources said.
The martyred security man was identified as Khalil Ahmed. The checkpost was also damaged partially. Security forces cordoned off the area and started a search.
Also on Tuesday, gas supply to the Pirkoh purification plant was suspended after unidentified men blew up an 18-inch diameter gas pipeline in Sui.
According to reports, the militants had strapped a powerful explosive device with the pipeline that damaged its three-feet-long piece. Sui Southern Gas Company technical teams were sent to the spot for repair.
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(Xinhua) -- Chevron Corporation said operations have restarted at a Nigerian oil pipeline attacked by militants in June, Chevron spokeswoman Margaret Cooper said late Monday. "The pipeline is back into service and production is restored," she said but declined to elaborate on whether the company's force majeure on Nigerian Escravos oil exports had been lifted.
The U.S. oil major declared force majeure -- a legal clause allowing producers to miss contracted deliveries because of circumstances beyond their control -- on its Nigerian Escravos exports after armed youths blew up the Abiteye-Olero crude pipeline in the western Niger Delta.
The assault cut about 120,000 barrels a day of crude output, according to military officials at the time.
Chevron declined to say how much production was affected by the attack but said output losses would delay loadings of some Escravos cargoes.
The Abiteye-Olero pipeline's return to service comes days after Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSB.LN) lifted its force majeure on exports from its 225,000 barrels-a-day Bonga offshore oil field in Nigeria following a June militant attack.
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Compare wid TOPIX > THE ISLAMIST THREAT, NIGERIAN OIL, AND THE BATTLE FOR CENTRAL AFRICA, + AFRICAN UNION WARNS OF CIVIL WAR IN SUDAN.
Pakistan will not allow any country to threaten its sovereignty, said Rehman Malik, adviser to the prime minister on interior, while addressing reporters upon his arrival at Heathrow Airport on Tuesday, according to APP.
Malik said Pakistani security forces were in full control of areas in Hangu district, adding that security forces had launched an operation in Zargari, Naryab, and Tora Warai to track down militants.
Malik is on a four-day official visit to the United Kingdom (UK) to discuss the repatriation of Pakistani nationals held in the UK for anti-state activities and for providing financial support to terrorist networks.
Sources said a three-member delegation comprising Rehman Malik, Interior Ministry Additional Secretary Zafeer Abbasi and Immigration and Passports Director General Wajid Bokhari will meet UK Interior Minister Jacqui Smith and UK Foreign Secretary David Milliband to discuss the issue.
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On second thought, maybe ARCLIGHT strikes are too slow for "progress" in I-slam-a-bad, and we may need to do something a bit more destructive. Anybody got a small asteroid we can use to target the place? Something in the order of 250M cubed, with a specific gravity of about 11? Warn the neighbors (well, India and Afghanistan, anyway) about the potential to release stress in any fault within 500 miles. We can blame it all on Allan.
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By Bill Roggio
Yesterday's deadly complex attack on a joint US and Afghan outpost in Kunar province was carried out by a large, mixed force of Taliban, al Qaeda, and allied extremist groups operating eastern Afghanistan.
Sunday's assault occurred just three days after 45 US soldiers, likely from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, and 25 Afghan troops established a new combat outpost in the town of Wanat. The troops had little time to learn the lay of the land, establish local contacts, and build an intelligence network. The fortifications were not fully completed, according to initial reports.
A complex attack
The assault was carried out in the early morning of July 13 after the extremist forces, numbering between 200 and 500 fighters, took over a neighboring village. "What they [the Taliban] did was they moved into an adjacent village - which was close to the combat outpost - they basically expelled the villagers and used their houses to attack us," an anonymous senior Afghan defense ministry official told Al Jazeera. Tribesmen in the town stayed behind "and helped the insurgents during the fight," General Mohammad Qasim Jangalbagh, the provincial police chief, told The Associated Press.
The Taliban force then conducted a complex attack, coordinating a ground assault with supporting fires. Approximately 100 enemy fighters were reported to have moved close to the base while under a heavy barrage of machinegun fire, rocket-propelled grenades, and mortars. The fighters advanced on the outpost from three sides.
Taliban fighters breached the outer perimeter of the outpost but were repelled. US troops called in artillery, helicopter, and air support to help beat back the attacking force. Casualties were heavy on both sides, with nine US soldiers and 40 Taliban fighters killed during the assault. Fifteen US and four Afghan soldiers were also wounded in the attack...
Whole story at the link...
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Some napalm would have discouraged a second attempt, but we're being too "nice" in this war. I'm disgusted with the entire US/NATO chain of command for being so stupid and PC. We need to start firing some generals and admirals and replacing them with people with both intelligence and spine who aren't infected with PC bullshit.
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Seven soldiers were killed yesterday by an explosion of ammunition in the war-ravaged southern Russian province of Chechnya, Russian news agencies reported, citing the defence ministry. "Today at 5:15 pm (1315 GMT)... an uncontrolled explosion occurred as ammunition was being transferred from a tank into a vehicle" near the town of Shali, a defence ministry statement was quoted as saying. "Seven servicemen were killed and six were injured," the statement added.
Prosecutors have opened an inquiry into the explosion and Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov dispatched a special investigative commission to look into the incident, the reports said.
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(PTI) Pakistani Taliban, holding 29 officials and troops hostage, today demanded the government end military operations in the troubled northwest Hangu district and release seven militants arrested from the area.
The Taliban conveyed their demands during talks with a tribal 'jirga' or council led by parliamentarian Pir Haider Ali Shah.
The militants also released a local government official they had abducted last week, but were still holding another 29 officials and security personnel they had taken hostage on Friday during a foray into Doaba town in Hangu district of North West Frontier Province (NWFP).
The Doaba area has witnessed heightened tension between the Taliban and security forces after seven militants were arrested during a sweep on Thursday.
The Taliban had besieged the Doaba police station demanding the release of their arrested colleagues. The militants withdrew after the army was deployed in the area but took 29 hostages before leaving Doaba.
Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan spokesman Maulvi Omar said the militants would not attack government troops if the authorities do not take action any against them.
Omar also rejected Premier Yousuf Raza Gilani's statement about the presence of foreign elements in the tribal areas.
He said the Taliban would be the first line of defence if US or NATO forces from Afghanistan carry out any attack on Pakistani territory.
The Taliban would turn the tribal areas into a "graveyard" for the US-led coalition forces, he said.
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Demand?
Are they in any position to demand anything?
There is a lot of demanding that goes on in that part of the world.
(Xinhua) -- Israel has allowed more goods into Gaza from Monday through three commercial crossings it partly reopened as part of an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire, Hamas government said on Tuesday.
The new goods to enter included construction materials and fuel, said the ministry of economy in the deposed Hamas government.
Through the main crossing at Karni, 158 truckloads of goods such as food, clothes, stones and gravels, weighing 11 tons, entered into Gaza City. Eighty-six truckloads also entered into Gaza via Sofa crossing, eight of which carrying concrete and lime cement.
During the closure of the crossings as part of Israel's sanctions against Hamas, the construction materials were barred from going to Gaza. Only reduced amounts of basic food products and medicine were allowed into Gaza before the ceasefire that Hamas and Israel reached took effect on June 19.
The blockade on the Gaza Strip was imposed when Hamas ousted President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement and routed his forces in deadly fighting last year.
But the ministry said Israel did not commit itself to increase the amounts of goods into Gaza. Though the ban on some materials was lifted, their amounts sent to Gaza are still reduced, the ministry added.
The ceasefire deal ended cross-border attacks between Hamas and Israel but the Islamic movement accuses the Jewish state of not lifting the sanctions properly.
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Properly?
As in, give us more stuff.
We need
We need
A build-up of Western coalition forces on the Afghan border spread alarm yesterday among villagers in the Pakistani tribal region of North Waziristan, a known stronghold of Taliban and Al Qaeda militants.
The deployment will add to a mounting sense of foreboding in Pakistan that US ground troops could be ordered into Pakistan on covert missions or hot pursuit to eliminate militants fuelling an insurgency in Afghanistan that appears stronger than ever.
Villagers said hundreds of coalition troops had been airlifted to a border area opposite the village of Lowara Mandi. "The movement of troops started last night," an intelligence official said, adding that armoured vehicles and heavy weaponry had been brought in with them.
The deployment is in the vicinity of Camp Tillman, a forward operating base for US forces that has come under regular rocket and mortar attack in the past.
The Pakistani military spokesman said it was probably a routine movement and the media had created "unnecessary hype".
A military spokesman at Bagram Air Base north of Kabul said the US-led coalition did not comment on troop movements.
A Taliban spokesman in Bajaur welcomed the build up on the border as a chance to kill more Americans. "It's a gift that they're coming here on our land and making it easy for us to kill our enemies, the enemies of Muslims," Taliban spokesman, Maulvi Omar said.
A series of incidents along the border, including drone aircraft missile attacks and cross-border firing, have fuelled fears in Pakistan that the US military may be moving to a more offensive strategy having hitherto refrained from unleashing ground forces in Pakistani territory.
Separately, unknown gunmen kidnapped two Turkish nationals working on a construction project in western Afghanistan. "The Turkish engineers were working on a project in the town of Islam Qala, bordering Iran, where they were kidnapped from a vehicle," police official said.
A Turkish Foreign Ministry official in Ankara said the two abducted engineers were Gokhan Gul and Erhan Gunduz who were both working for the Turkish construction company Gulsen Insaat.
Meanwhile, more than 20 Taliban-linked rebels were killed in separate clashes, one of them in an area of northeastern Afghanistan where nine US soldier were killed. The police and administration chiefs of the district where the US troops were attacked on Sunday were meanwhile arrested on suspicion of co-operating with the militants.
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Might be pay-back for the recent attack that killed 9 US troops. That was probably a cross-border excursion and this, a prelude for eliminating the safe havens.
Tens of thousands of children in the district have been deprived of anti-polio drops due to the prevailing law and order situation in the district.
Three cases of polio were reported in the Aligram area of Kabal tehsil in Swat district on Tuesday. Sources told Daily Times that three of the suspected samples of blood sent by the Swat Health Department to Islamabad for tests were declared infected with polio virus, while 11 others were found negative. Tens of thousands of children in the district have been deprived of anti-polio drops due to the prevailing law and order situation in the district. Health Department sources said that many more cases of the disease might be detected in the militancy-hit areas of Kabal, Matta, Khwazakhela, and Charbagh, if the children were not administered polio drops on time.
This article starring:
Aligram area of Kabal tehsil
Charbagh
Kabal
Khwazakhela
Matta
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That's prolly cause you ran off the aid workers that were trying to vaccinate you at the end of a AK-47.
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I think that it's a 3-shot sequence, Fred. They tend not to use the oral Sabin vaccine any more; that one's dangerous to people with hidden immune deficiencies.
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I just had one dose as a child. But now I'm infertile, so maybe the imams and mullahs are right. Oh, I also had a vasectomy after three kids. So, it still could've been the vaccine
but mostly the snip job
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#3 You only need it once.
Posted by: Fred 2008-07-16 11:58
The new vaccine, yes, you supposedly only need it once. I was part of the group in the South that got the shots in 1953-54. There were a series of three shots, then an annual booster until about 1960. Then they said they had a better vacccine, and you only needed it once. Got that one, too. When I joined the military, I got another series of shots for polio. When they came out with the oral vaccine, the military decided again that I needed it (several times, in fact). I haven't had polio, so I guess SOMETHING worked. It took the Air Force 10 years of poking me to decide to quit giving me smallpox vaccinations that did nothing, though. At least they got rid of the needle for polio vaccinations.
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It is a FACT. Polio Vaccines are Infidel Medicine...
YEP.. they prevent you from getting polio but after 10 to 20 weeks you become a Good Christian for life! /suckers
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The Foreign Office (FO) on Tuesday rejected the "baseless" allegations levelled against Pakistan's intelligence agencies and armed forces by Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai and the Afghan cabinet for carrying out terrorist attacks. "Such baseless accusations serve no purpose other than vitiating bilateral atmosphere and creating an artificial crisis in Pak-Afghan relations," the FO said in a statement. The Afghan cabinet on Monday announced that it would boycott all the upcoming meetings with Pakistan unless "bilateral trust" was restored. The FO statement said, "Regretfully the decision of the Afghan cabinet to suspend important bilateral meetings on such flimsy grounds ignores the importance of economic co-operation to the improvement in the living conditions of the Afghani people that has implications for the overall security situation as well," APP reported. The statement said the abiding interests of Pak-Afghan relations and the need for credible partnership in the common struggle against terrorism should transcend short-term political expediencies. The statement added that Pakistan hopes that Afghanistan will "do some rethinking" and desist from such provocative statements.
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Ah, the outright denial technique.
That only works for a little while though.
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The Afghan government could drive the ISI crackers by stating that since these fighters are not Afghans, then it cannot be assumed they are Muslims, either.
So they will be buried in Christian graveyards.
You can bet the Pak government would lose its marbles about them "burying Pakistani Muslims" in an infidel graveyard.
Israel formally pardoned a high-profile Lebanese prisoner on Tuesday to set in motion the process of a prisoner swap with Hezbollah expected to get under way today.
Hours after Israel's cabinet gave its final approval, President Shimon Peres said he had used his powers under the law to pardon Samir Qantar, whose freedom Hezbollah sought in exchange for the release of two Israeli soldiers held since 2006.
Mr. Peres said he had "made this difficult decision" despite what he called "unbearable pain." He insisted "this decision in no way constitutes forgiveness" for Qantar, who had been jailed for life for an attack in which two children and three other Israelis died in 1979. Officials said the Cabinet voted 22-3 to ratify the exchange. "This is not a happy day for any of us, to release murderers such as these. But we have a moral and soulful obligation to bring our soldiers home," Mr. Peres said before the vote.
Actually, you don't. Hezbollah has a moral and soulful obligation to refrain from kidnapping, which is whatcha might call an unlawful policy. Having indulged in it, it's incumbent on them to return those they kidnapped and make restitution. It is incumbent upon the Israeli government to ensure there are no more kidnappings -- by making the consequences of such a crime more costly that the successful execution of it.
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the moral obligation is to their soldiers, not to Hezbollah.
The soldiers are both dead, by the way. May He who makes peace in Heaven, send peace to those who mourn for them.
As for inflicting pain on Hezbollah, this clears to the deck to some degree. Israel's direct option in Lebanon are rather limited - but I think Israel is looking past Hezbollah to their sponsors, and this is one step in making an attack on those sponsors easier.
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the moral obligation is to their soldiers, not to Hezbollah.
I'm sure that the very last thing the two soldiers would have wanted was for their lifeless corpses to be used by their government to grant Hezbollah a stupendous humiliation of Israel.
A Palestinian military tribunal sentenced two men from the occupied West Bank to death on Tuesday for spying for Israel, a security official told AFP.
"Two men, a Palestinian from Yatta (near the southern town of Hebron) and his nephew, have been sentenced to be executed for giving information to Israel that led to the deaths of two Palestinians," said Suleiman Imran, the commander of forces in the northern West Bank town of Jenin.
Imran declined to name the two men but said one of them had fled to Israel and the other had been detained in Jenin.
The death sentence decrees must now go to Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas, who has the power to pardon the prisoners.
In April a Palestinian man was sentenced to death by firing squad for collaborating with Israeli intelligence, but the sentence has not been carried out.
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At least they got a trial. They usually just take them out in the street and shoot them.
A World Food Program contractor was gunned down in the fifth fatal attack this year on one of the agency's workers, the WFP said Tuesday as thousands of Somalis gathered to protest the assaults.
Most members of the crowd that assembled outside the capital, Mogadishu, had been driven from their homes by the country's seemingly unending violence. "We have been forced to live in the open, we have no shelter from the sun and the rain, and now they are killing and abducting our helpers?" said protester Said Dahiro. "It is unacceptable."
The Somali staff member of a WFP-contracted trucking company was shot in the southern town of Buale on Sunday, WFP Country Director Peter Goossens said. The victim, who had been working to help WFP shipments pass militia checkpoints, was the fifth staff member of a WFP-contracted trucking company killed in Somalia this year, Goossens said. "We condemn these shootings, and are very concerned that growing insecurity threatens to sabotage the humanitarian response in Somalia," Goossens said.
Violence against aid workers in Somalia has dramatically increased in the past few weeks. In addition to the killings, at least four aid workers have been kidnapped recently. It is unclear who is behind the killings, since many factions in Somalia's chaotic war stand to benefit from them.
Powerful local leaders have previously complained that aid workers are feeding Islamic insurgents who had sworn to fight the government. Insurgents have also targeted Somalis affiliated with foreign organizations in the past. The problem has been compounded by the growth of professional kidnapping rings, who security experts say have been encouraged by the large ransoms paid by foreigners to release ships taken by pirates.
The Islamists vowed to fight an Iraq-style insurgency against the government and its Ethiopian allies in December 2006, after Ethiopian troops dislodged the Islamists from the capital and much of the territory in southern Somalia they had held for six months.
Thousands of civilians have been killed in the fighting and hundreds of thousands have fled the capital. Over 2 million people in the arid, impoverished country are dependent on food aid. Control of aid, used to buy loyalty from militiamen, has often provoked fighting among Somalia's powerful clan-based warlords since they toppled a socialist dictator in 1991. The country has not had a functioning government since then.
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I knew that Somalia is a S***hole, but Fifth World? That's harsh. LOL
And yeah, I know. :)
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I see the 'Baguettes for Bandaliers' food program continues, too bad this worker couldn't khat his way past the checkpoint. I understand the humanitarian mission but without security they are making the situation worse by feeding and supplying barter goods to these murderers.
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I personally think that Ethiopia and everyone else not a native Somali pull out of the place, let whoever wants to take control, and nuke the place until there's nothing left but glowing glass. Somalia takes up far more resources than it's worth. That includes "puntland".
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Yep. Ethiopia needs sea access.
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Workers of Khulna City Corporation found four grenades and 50 bullets of 0.303 rifles while working near Tayeba Colony at Khalishpur around noon yesterday. The grenades and bullets were found buried three feet under the ground, Khalishpur Police Station sources said adding that the workers were digging to disconnect illegal water supply connections. Senior officials of Khulna Metropolitan Police visited the spot. Police said they have launched an investigation in this connection.
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Police recovered at least 61 hostages, including several from the Hindu community from a private jail of Abdul Rehman Marri in Sanghar, reported Express News on Tuesday.
According to the channel, police raided the private jail at the application of Ranu Bhel, who had spent 25 years in Marri's private prison. It said Bhel had informed the Pakistan International Human Rights Organisation that Marri had various people in his private jail who were being used for bonded labour. RPO Hyderabad conducted the raid and recovered the hostages, it said.
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Slavery exists and is a serious problem mainly in Moslem countries. Sometimes make my stomach turn when we have ridiculous displays of angst by American Blacks about horrible things done to their ancestors four or more generations ago. If you hate slavery, fight against it today, not in some distant past.
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(Xinhua) -- The Sudanese government warned Tuesday that UN peacekeeping work in its strife-torn region of Darfur region would suffer if President Omar al-Bashir were to be indicted for war crimes and arrested by the International Criminal Court (ICC).
Addressing a news conference in Nairobi, Sudanese ambassador to Kenya Majok Guangdong said the evidence by the ICC was false and indicated Sudan could try to halt the court's work through its allies.
"The decision will stall the political process and will not give an opportunity for success to the new AU/UN special envoy for peace in Darfur," Guangdong told journalists in Nairobi.
He said the Sudanese government will go ahead with implementing its joint plans and programs with the UN/AU with regard to the deployment of the hybrid forces and making success the political process in Darfur.
Guangdong said the country did not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC and would rally support among allies in an attempt to block proceedings, warning that if the ICC pursued the case it could jeopardize relations between Sudan and the UN.
"Sudan is not party to the ICC and did not sign or ratify the Rome Statue, which created the Court, and hence it is not under the jurisdiction of the court," the ambassador told journalists in Nairobi.
"The Sudanese Judiciary is capable and willing to address the situation in Darfur according to the National Investigation Commission on Darfur and the Special Courts that were set up in this regard," he said.
ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo on Monday requested the court at The Hague issue an arrest warrant for President al-Bashir, citing evidence linking the leader to acts of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.
"The decision will have a destructive effect on the humanitarian, political and security situation in Darfur. It encourages the rebel movements to continue and intensify their military operations against the government," Guangdong said.
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Yeah, cause he's the only one keeping things "sane" right now.
Indonesia and East Timor expressed deep regret yesterday for violence surrounding Dili's 1999 independence vote after a joint probe blamed state institutions for "gross human rights violations".
The report by the Commission of Truth and Friendship (CTF) blamed Indonesian security forces for the mayhem, although Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono stopped short of an apology.
The two governments set up the CTF in 2005 to look into the violence, during which the UN estimates more than 1,000 East Timorese died, but it has no power to prosecute, prompting criticism that it serves to whitewash atrocities. It has been boycotted by the UN.
The statement expressing regret came after the truth commission submitted its report on the violence to Yudhoyono, East Timor President Jose Ramos-Horta and East Timor Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao in Bali.
Indonesian security and civilian forces had a major role in systematic, widespread "gross human rights violations", while a small number of East Timor's pro-independence groups also played minor parts in the violence, the report said.
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Swat-based Taliban said on Tuesday that talks with the NWFP government would be resumed only after the release of their colleagues and withdrawal of cases against them. Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan told journalists that the provincial government should release 40 detained militants, a promise made in the peace agreement. He said their agreement with the government remains intact, while only negotiations have been postponed. Also on Tuesday, unidentified armed men kidnapped two policemen in the Guli Bagh area of Swat. Khwazakhel Police Station In-charge Yousaf Ali Khan told Daily Times that the two constables had been deployed at the Penham Institute, but were kidnapped by hooded men from a nearby market. Meanwhile, dozens of armed men shot dead a civilian in the Dagai area of Kabal tehsil. The armed men opened fire at Faridoon in front of his house. He died on the spot, while his neighbour Obaidullah sustained injuries, police said.
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And a pony!
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Animal rights activists protest outside the British embassy in Riga July 15, 2008, against the use of bear skin used to make hats worn by the British army's household regiment.
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Of course you know this thread is useless widout MORE Babe pics!
WORLDNEWS > ARMAGEDDON BRITAIN: A DETAILED INSIGHT INTO HOW A MAJOR CATASTROPHIC TERROR ATTACK [espec Nukular?] CAN OCCUR IN BRITAIN ANY DAY WITH LITTLE OR NO WARNING, via Private Jets and other Light Aircraft in manned Suicide? HIGH GLOBAL-VISIBILITY/PROFILE OPERS.
ALso from WORLDNEWS > USA:PREPARING FOR THE UNTHINKABLE - NUCLEAR ATTACK [Terror].
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Two points. (1) It's nice to see naked protesters that don't burn your eyes. (2) They use a lot of fur clothing in nearby Russia so why are the Latvian's targeting the British? I mean how often do they need to replace the bear hats anyway? And how many hats per bear? I should think that if a beer dies in the London zoo they'd have enough fur for a decades worth of new hats and no harm done, while in Russia they kill lots of little animals to create big furcoats (which keep you from freezing to death but I'm trying to think like a protester a bit here).
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Ah yes, the protest perfunctory topless display. The protest use of "bare skin" to protest the use of "bear skin." Oh, never mind. Does anyone really take this sort of thing seriously? The "boobs not bombs" posting made one want to escape to somewhere else quickly.
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Compare wid REDDIT [old?] > seems US PETA 's put three of 'em in cages, with pics. ARTIC ALSO HAS LINK TO 15 CELEB WOMEN WHOM WENT NUDE FOR PETA = ANIMAL RIGHTS.
NET Poster > Whaddaya know, PETA has finally discovered Marketing and, HORROR OF HORRORS FOR THE LEFT, ITS WORKING FOR THEM!
Israeli troops arrested seven Hamas activists Tuesday, including two municipal council members, in a widening crackdown on the Islamic militant group in Nablus, residents said.
The Israeli military confirmed that it arrested seven Palestinians in the city but did not elaborate.
Residents said troops seized the two Hamas city council members, a senior Hamas activist and other Palestinians known for their close ties to the group, including Hanin Darwazi, the head of a local women's organization.
Hamas, a militant Islamic group has a large, active women's section. But arrests of Hamas women are infrequent.
Tuesday's pre-dawn sweep followed the closure in Nablus last week by the Israeli military of a shopping mall, a TV station and a newspaper, all allegedly with ties to Hamas.
The raids have prompted complaints by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas that Israel is damaging his standing in the West Bank, where he governs. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip.
As he conducts peace talks with Israel, Abbas has deployed security forces throughout the West Bank to quell lawlessness and check the growth of Hamas and other militant groups.
Both Israel and the Abbas government fear Hamas could seize control of the West Bank, which lies next to Israel's populous center. Hamas fighters ousted Abbas loyalists from Gaza by force a year ago.
Palestinian security forces also have conducted their own crackdown on Hamas members throughout the West Bank.
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British lawmakers voted Tuesday to include the military wing of Lebanese-based group Hezbollah to Britain's list of banned terrorist organizations, charging it supported terror activities in Iraq and the Palestinian territories. The action by the House of Commons would make it a crime to join or support the military wing of the radical group, which fought a bloody month-long conflict with Israel two years ago.
Britain's minister in charge of fighting terrorism Tony McNulty charged that the movement was linked to insurgent groups in Iraq that had attacked coalition soldiers. "I can say unequivocally that Hezbollah's military wing is providing active support to Shia militant groups in Iraq," he said.
The ban passed the chamber unopposed. The measure will take effect with the House of Lords expected approval later this week.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown had told lawmakers earlier this month that he wanted to add the military wing of the organization to a list of banned terrorist organizations.
Britain lists 45 groups as banned international terrorist organizations, including al-Qaida and the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK. Hezbollah's external security organization has been listed since 2001.
McNulty insisted that Hezbollah's social and political work in Britain will be unaffected, but the ban will place tight limits on fundraising.
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REDDIT > FORMER IRANIAN PRESIDENT BANI-SADR - TEHRAN RESPONSIBLE FOR LOCKERBIE, NOT LIBYA"!
HMMMM, HMMMM, reminds me of what I told the USDOD-Fed long ago back in the late 1980's > "THE IRANIANS WILL CLAIM THEY DIDN'T DO IT".
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Recognizing the enemy and those in league with them is a major step!!!! If Lebanese Hezbollah/Palestinians aided Iraqi insurgents, we should have a legitimate coalition of Britain, UK, French, and Israeli troops, beyond the aid requested from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. And if the Iranians did Lockerbie, and Pakistan's AQ Khan supplied Libya with tech as well as Iran and North Korea, we have all the justification we need to go after AQ and the Taliban hiding out across the border or anywhere else they have burrowed in. I can't see how even China and Russia could oppose an official UN resolution to go after them all, not that I think we need world approval to defend ourselves, anyway. Time to take the diplomatic gloves off.
Dozens of Tamil Tiger rebels and four soldiers have been killed in the latest fighting in Sri Lanka's north in the past two days, the defence ministry said yesterday.
The deaths coincide with a visit by British lawmaker Mark Malloch-Brown, who is in the country to discuss allegations of rights abuses.
The defence ministry said 49 Tamil Tiger rebels were killed during fighting on Sunday and Monday, bringing to 4,956 the total number of rebels killed by government forces since January.
Four soldiers were also killed, according to the ministry, bringing the total deaths for the same period to 441.
Casualty figures on both sides cannot be independently verified as the defence ministry bars journalists from travelling to the frontlines.
The British High Commission in Colombo said Malloch Brown, Britain's minister for Africa, Asia and the UN, would discuss Sri Lanka's deteriorating human rights situation and the Sri Lankan government's plans to settle the 36-year-old ethnic conflict.
He will meet with senior government officials, civil society organisations and religious leaders during his visit, which ends Thursday. "The Minister will discuss the human rights situation in Sri Lanka, in particular ways of strengthening the mechanism for monitoring and investigating allegations of human rights abuses," the High Commission said.
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Security agencies arrested a top Al Qaeda operative late on Monday along with his two accomplices in Punjab's southern city of Multan, sources told Daily Times on Tuesday.
The personnel of the security agencies arrested the three suspected terrorists from a shutdown 'Neel Wali Factory' located on Abdali Road, the sources said.
Officials have identified the suspects as Tanzanian national Muhammad Al Misri, Anwar Muawiya and Muhammad Shahid.
The sources said the arrest of Al Misri is the second biggest catch following the arrest of Mullah Obaidullah Akhund, former defence minister in the Taliban government, on March 2, 2007.
Wave: The officials said that Al Misri is closely linked with Al Qaeda's top hierarchy. Al Misri is also suspected to be behind the series of suicide attacks in the country following the crackdown on the Lal Masjid codenamed 'Operation Silence', they said.
The sources said that according to preliminary investigations, Al Misri knows five languages including English, Persian, Arabic, Pushto and Urdu.
Anwar, a resident of Abbotabad, belongs to the banned Lashkar e Jhangvi (LJ), the sources said, adding Shahid, another LJ activist, is a local of Multan.
The three militants were hiding in the factory for the past one week, the sources said.
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(Xinhua) -- The United States is taking "potential action" to punish Zimbabwean leaders, President George W. Bush said Tuesday. "These sanctions were not against the Zimbabwe people. These were against the people that, you know, in the Mugabe regime that made the decisions it made," Bush told a press conference.
Bush made the pledge after UN Security Council failed last week to reach an agreement to impose sanctions against the southern African country. He did not elaborate details of the possible sanctions.
Russia and China vetoed a U.S.-drafted resolution in the UN Security Council on Friday that would impose sanctions on Zimbabwe over the country's presidential run-off election in late June.
The failed text calls for a travel ban and an assets freeze on President Robert Mugabe and his top officials, as well as an arms embargo.
The Bush administration has been threatening to act unilaterally against Mugabe and his government following his re-election in the vote denounced by Zimbabwean opposition parties, the United State States and some Western countries as unfairy. "We don't believe that the Mugabe regime is a legitimate government ... because they ran a sham election," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said last month.
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Don't worry, Zim Bob. The Chicoms and the Nigerian smugglers will neutralize the fantasy sanctions and you will suffer no discomfort.
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How about 'sanctioning' them by dropping a couple of reinforced brigades of Airborne Infantry on Kentucky Airport.
White House hopeful Barack Obama laid the groundwork for a vital trip abroad yesterday, vowing to shift the "single-minded" US focus from Iraq to Al Qaeda lairs in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
As a furious debate on war strategy raged between the Democrat and his Republican foe John McCain, Obama planned a major speech in Washington and in-depth television interviews to bolster his commander-in-chief credentials.
Obama is expected in Europe and the Middle East next week, and is also due to embark soon on heavily guarded missions to Afghanistan and Iraq, details of which have not been released for security reasons.
Obama, a long-time opponent of the Iraq war, slammed President George W Bush, and McCain, who he said had misunderstood the prime challenge to US security. "As should have been apparent to President Bush and Senator McCain - the central front in the war on terror is not Iraq, and it never was. Al Qaeda has an expanding base in Pakistan that is probably no farther from their old Afghan sanctuary than a train ride from Washington to Philadelphia," Obama said.
He has proposed adding two US combat brigades, about 9,000 troops, to the 36,000 troops already in Afghanistan and said this would be made possible by a drawdown of troops from Iraq.
McCain immediately and scathingly accused Obama of adopting a closed mind on the twin US wars, before even leaving the US. "In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy."
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So he is in favor of invading a sovereign country which is at least nominally an ally. Yet he will talk without preconditions to a sworn enemy.
How can anybody with a brain cell even consider voting for this fool?
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WORLDNEWS > US BOOSTS MILITARY TIES WITH VIETNAM, LAOS, AND CAMBODIA.
VLADVEDEV = ROMULAN's ala STAR TREK:NG Episode > "EXPANSION OF THE FEDERATION [US OWG-NWO] EVERYWHERE".
The Kazakhs, Taijiks, Azeris, and Armenians are prob all wetting themselves on the possible RUSSO-CHIN RESPONSE???
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Answer Rambler - Poll on this morning's radio said 56% of Americans believe BO has the foreign policy credentials to be president. Only 72% said McCain has the chops.
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Got to br elected first 'Bro' Talk is cheap.
Frankly, with Hillary looking to Knife him in the back at first possibility, I think (Hope) his chances are piss poor.
We really need the option "None of the above".
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A Police team arrested three alleged would-be suicide bombers on Tuesday and claimed to have foiled a major terrorist attack on the city.
Intelligence sources said that the alleged bombers had intended to target important public buildings and foreign installations as well as the Chuhng Investigation Centre. Sources added that a week earlier, security personnel had arrested a group of militants from the country's Northern Areas.
During interrogation, the militants revealed their accomplices' hideouts. Following the information, security personnel raided a house in Farkhabad, Shahdara on Tuesday. Qari Muhammad Basit, Mullah Mir and an unidentified accomplice were arrested and taken to an undisclosed location.
The police team also claimed to have found huge quantities of explosive materials, ball bearings, detonators, remote controls and two jackets from the arrested men. Maps of some important buildings in the city were also found. Intelligence sources said that preliminary interrogations revealed that the arrested men had been planning terrorist attacks on the city.
A senior police official confirmed the arrests. He said that according to intelligence reports, a few terrorists had already entered the city. He added that the militants arrested from the Northern Areas confirmed these reports. Following the confirmation, higher authorities had issued special directions for immediate arrests.
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sob story: "But I'm dying!" Her victim(s) couldn't be reached for comment.
A follower of Charles Manson who stabbed pregnant actress Sharon Tate to death nearly 40 years ago but is dying of brain cancer in a California prison was denied compassionate release Tuesday. Compassionate release???
The California Board of Parole released its unanimous decision on the release of Susan Atkins hours after a 90-minute hearing, during which it heard impassioned pleas from both sides.
"Obviously, it was too hot of a potato for them to handle," said one of Atkins' attorney, Eric P. Lampel. "Of course we're disappointed. There's no basis for denying this." other than justice
Lampel filed a motion July 10 with Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge David Wesley asking for his client's release no matter what the parole board recommended. No hearing has been set, Lampel said after the hearing. "We're going to be able to make the case in court. We'll take it to the next step," he said after being informed of the board's decision by The Associated Press.
Atkins' doctors and officials at the women's prison in Corona made the request in March because of her deteriorating health. She also has had her left leg amputated and is paralyzed on her right side, her husband, James Whitehouse, told the California Board of Parole Hearings.
Whitehouse, also acting as one of Atkins' attorneys, had argued that his wife was so debilitated that she could not even sit up in bed. He told the parole board there was no longer a reason to keep her incarcerated. "She literally can't snap her fingers," he said. "She can put sentences together three or four times a day, but that's the extent of it."
He said doctors have given her three months to live. Atkins, in a hospital near the Southern California prison where she was housed for nearly 40 years, did not attend Tuesday's hearing.
The request for compassionate leave generated opposition from relatives of the victims, the state corrections department, Los Angeles County prosecutors and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. "Those kinds of crimes are just so unbelievable that I am not for compassionate release in that case," Schwarzenegger said Tuesday before the parole board issued its decision.
Atkins, Manson and two other cult members, Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten, were tried for the 1969 cult killings of Tate; Leno and Rosemary La Bianca; and four others. Tate, the wife of filmmaker Roman Polanski, was 8 1/2 months pregnant.
Sharon Tate's sister, Debra Tate, the last surviving member of her immediate family, sent a letter to the board opposing Atkins' release. "She is a cold-blooded woman who to this day has not displayed any remorse," wrote Tate, who lives in the Los Angeles area.
The defendants maintained their innocence throughout the trial. Once convicted, the women confessed to the killings during the penalty phase. On the stand, Atkins recounted her role in stabbing Tate, who pleaded for the life of her unborn baby. Atkins claimed she was on LSD at the time but did not apologize for the crime until a parole hearing years later.
Her brother, Steve Atkins, told the parole board Tuesday that he and his sister had been abused as children. "After Susan got in with Manson, she was lost to me," he said. "Please let us be with Susan in private in her last days, to pray with her and give our last good-byes."
The defendants were sentenced to death, but their terms were commuted to life sentences when the U.S. Supreme Court temporarily ruled the death penalty unconstitutional. Manson and the two other women remain in state prison. and death it will be. F*cking Rose Bird
Atkins has spent 37 years in the California Institution for Women, where she has been held longer than any other female inmate in state history. She was transferred to the hospital in March.
Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley said that's where she ought to remain. In a letter to the parole board, Cooley said the nature of Atkins' crimes alone should rule out any release. He noted that after Atkins stabbed Tate, she tasted her blood and used it to write the word "Pig" on the victim's door. Burn in hell, Susan
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Yes she is a cold blooded killer who still hasn't shown remorse but given that she is terminal, has only 3 months to live and has family, I they could have worked something out short of full release.
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No, she should never be released. Let her die in her cell or the prison sick bay.
No remorse for the absolute gristly way Sharon Tate and her baby were stabbed to death. This is not a political hot potato issue. This is the best justice she can get because the death penalty was denied.
Let the doctors and officials at the Corona prison attend to her medical needs in a compassionate way in prison.
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Good idea MHW.
Like maybe give the family of her victims a blunt knife where they could cut the unborn tumor from her head and write the word "PIG" on the wall of her house...
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If the death penalty hadn't been outlawed years ago, she would have been dead almost 40 years ago. I have no sympathy. She has lived almost 40 years more than Sharon Tate did. Sharon's unborn baby never had a chance at life at all.
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file under the "only her mother cares" category.
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Frank G:sob story: "But I'm dying!" Her victim(s) couldn't be reached for comment.
sums it up quite well Frank.
Right now the State of Caliphornia is showing her a World more compassion than she gave her victims.
Her Attorney:
"she could not even sit up in bed"
"She literally can't snap her fingers," he said. "She can put sentences together three or four times a day, but that's the extent of it."
Steve G. a good buddy of mine [RVN [Vietnam] Vet] is in the latter stages of terminal brain cancer.
It would be an Insult to Justice to afford Susan Atkins with the same rights to choose her place to die and who she is with, as my buddy has, Steve G...
And Sharon Tate and her baby never did have..
in Fact Sharon and her baby recieved Horror for Death, They had no choice but to be with vicious rabid animals ripping her belly up and her unborn child with steel when she and her baby died..
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Given the extent of the crimes, this site here has a pretty compact version of events including evidence, testimony, reports, and photos of the criminals and the folks who were murdered - both before and after.
I didn't realize that "Squeaky" Fromme replaced Manson after he was caught and thrown in jail.
After they caught a bunch and sentenced them to death, the supreme court overturned a bunch of their penalties, so many are eligible for parole. Thanks, USSC, for looking out for our interests as if they were your own. I guess it's a good thing you don't have to live next to any of these folks and probably enjoy all kinds of police protection. Just like the little people.
What kills me is that even to this day they have not been able to round up all of them, who are still involved in things like death cults and chylde pjornografee.
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He told the parole board there was no longer a reason to keep her incarcerated. "She literally can't snap her fingers," he said. "She can put sentences together three or four times a day, but that's the extent of it."
Too bad this didn't happen to her forty years ago.
When Sharon Tate can get out of her coffin, Susan Atkins can get out of jail.
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In California, it's usually easy to find compassion for bloody killers. Persons guilty of the most horendous murders have no trouble getting midnight candle vigils at their executions. But kill a Hollywood star and California will show you no mercy.
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Life in Prison means life in prison. You die there.
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I was thinking of having some compassion for Susan Atkin's family who I take to law abiding citizens with an interest in spending time with their kin during the end of her life.
They could be granted extended visiting hours or something similar.
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Teletubbies on 24/7 with the remote just out of reach.
If there is not going to be a death penalty, criminals need to know that this is how they will spend their final days. No exceptions.
F@kn sick. If that baby wasn't killed when they carved Sharon's womb open that baby likely cried before its blood was drank and used as ink. Lampel, how bout someone shoves a hot potato up your ass, then cuts it open and adds butter via your belly button using a dull knife then writes 'snake' on the walls with your testicles so that is the last you see as your vision fades; then maybe you will have true compassion for someone at the kool-aid slaughter.
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Her brother, Steve Atkins, told the parole board Tuesday that he and his sister had been abused as children.
Steve, there are a lot of people who have rough childhoods and they don't become mass murderers. They actually make something of their lives. A bad childhood doesn't excuse the murder and torture of others.
Next year, Patricia Krenwinkel, 60, another one of the principal defendants, comes up for parole again.
So far, the core participants in the killing sprees, including Krenwinkel, Charles "Tex" Watson and Leslie Van Houten, along with Atkins and Manson, have been denied parole a combined 57 times.
(Xinhua) -- Six Iraqi people were injured Tuesday by a car bomb explosion targeting Iraqi security forces in the city of Mosul, capital of Nineveh province, a provincial police source said.
A booby-trapped car parked in the 17th of July neighborhood in western Mosul detonated near an Iraqi army patrol, wounding six people, including two soldiers, the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.
A military vehicle was also damaged by the attack, the source added.
In northern Mosul, another car bomb went off in the al-Arabi neighborhood, causing damages to several nearby buildings, the source said without giving more details.
Earlier, the source said eight people were killed and five others injured by two suicide bomb attacks targeting Iraqi security forces in the city.
Nineveh province, including its capital Mosul, some 400 km north of Baghdad, was believed to be one of the last strongholds of al-Qaida fighters in the war-torn country.
The U.S. and Iraqi security forces have been staging a major security crackdown in Nineveh to uproot al-Qaida militants and other anti-U.S. insurgents.
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Bombers killed around 40 people and wounded scores in several attacks in northern Iraq yesterday. In the worst attack, two suicide bombers killed 27 people and wounded 68 when they blew themselves up outside an army recruitment centre in Baquba, 65km northeast of Baghdad.
Hours later, three bomb blasts hit Mosul, capital of Nineveh province.
The latest attacks came as executed dictator Saddam Hussein's fugitive deputy Izzat Ibrahim Al Duri urged Iraqis to "strike the enemy everywhere... to make this year... decisive for victory". Saddam's number two in the decision-making Revolutionary Command Council, has had a $10 million (BD3.78m) US bounty on his head since November 2003.
In the capital, Electricity Minister Karim Wahid escaped unharmed when a roadside bomb exploded in east Baghdad, wounding three of his bodyguards.
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Lots of people like hanging around the Iraqi army recruitment center, it seems. Is it because they feel safer there, or because they want to sign up, d'you suppose?
A three-day World Interfaith Dialogue Conference to find a common solution to the problems facing humanity will be inaugurated by Saudi Arabia King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz today (Wednesday).
The conference, which seeks to bring together religious figures from all leading religions, including Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism and Confucianism, will discuss approaches to end common problems and reinforce the values shared by the faiths. Spanish King Juan Carlos, Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and Muslim World League (MWL) Secretary General Dr Abdullah Al-Turki are also scheduled to address the opening session.
The Makkah-based MWL has convened the conference, which is a continuation of the process that was initiated in June with the organisation of a Muslim scholars' conference that suggested the organisation of an international interfaith dialogue. The idea for the conference stemmed from King Abdullah's view that if everyone focused on the universal values common to all faiths, they would find that we were bound by much more than we were divided by. The event, which is being covered by nearly 130 reporters, has been given a great deal of importance in both Muslim and non-Muslim countries. Talking to Daily Times, Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan Ali Awadh Asseri said that the conference would prove to be a milestone in improving religious understanding between various faiths. He said both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were important countries and together could play a leading role in solving issues facing the Ummah.
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Fox holding an encounter group in the chickenhouse, ya say?
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I assume the Saudis will host a similar interfaith, ecumenical gathering in Mecca.
The United States needs to focus on Afghanistan to curb a spurt in attacks by the Taliban as Pakistan has done enough to counter terrorism and extremism by breaking militant networks operating on its soil, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said.
"We have got Al Qaeda on the run. To a great extent we have broken many networks in Pakistan and we have banned many organisations in Pakistan. What they (the US) need to concentrate on, in my opinion, is Afghanistan," Qureshi said.
"Afghanistan should acknowledge that there have been serious failings on their side and they need to improve an effort, they need to improve the Afghan government on their side," Qureshi said in an interview with Al Jazeera news channel in Washington.
Successes: Replying to a question about the US asking Pakistan to do more to counter the activities of Taliban and Al Qaeda militants, Qureshi said: "I think they (the US) should also recognise the successes that we have made. They should also realise the people that we have apprehended."
Noting that there had been an increase in militant attacks across Afghanistan and not just in areas bordering Pakistan, he said this trend "cannot be blamed on Pakistan".
"It is very easy to pass the buck. It has to be ownership. What we are not shy of is, if there is a failing on our part, we are willing to look at things and improve upon our strategy," he said.
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You have Al Qaeda on the run? Have you told them yet?
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Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the alleged al-Qaeda driver who faces an historic military trial next week, testified Tuesday that a female interrogator elicited information from him using sexually suggestive behavior that was offensive to him.
Hamdan, a former driver for Osama bin Laden, told a military court conducting a pretrial hearing that during questioning in 2002 a woman interrogator "came close to me, she came very close, with her whole body towards me. I couldn't do anything. I was afraid of the soldiers.''
"Did she touch your thigh?," asked Hamdan's lawyer, Charles Swift.
"Yes...I said to her 'what do you want?'' Hamdan said. "She said 'I want you to answer all of my questions.'''
"Did you answer all of her questions after that?'' Swift asked. Hamdan said he did.
Hamdan's lawyers are seeking to convince a judge to throw out incriminating statements Hamdan allegedly gave to interrogators at the military prison here, arguing that they were obtained through coercive interrogation tactics. His trial, scheduled for Monday, would be the first military commission conducted by the United States in more than half a century.
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or a walrus: "The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of Joooos--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."
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The insidious "American Lap Dance Torture".
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"Did you answer all of her questions after that?'' Swift asked. Hamdan said he did.
Notice that he caved over something this insignificant? Do any of their man have any kind of self control? No wonder all their women are in the bag.
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Gimmie a break. this is "coercive"? Hell, anything is coercive in interrogation, that's the whole point of it. Hang the pos and give his lawyer 40 whacks with Lizzie Borden's bloody axe.
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We all have seen pre 9-11 videos of Al-Qaeda terrorists driving around Afghanistan in Toyota pickups. For those who don't know, 200 of same were given to the Taliban by the Islamic Republic of Saudi Arabia.
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"Sure, we would use nails, power tools - heh my favorite was this device we rigged up where a broken bottle was attached to the end of a power drill, wow that did the job. Oh, and ever play infidel darts? Ya get a nail gun and stand 10 cubits off and...oh..what they did to me? Well some cat food - er, unveiled temptress - touched me near my allan bits. Snorkeling, definately off the table. The worse was that video with the talking sheep, you know like in Babe, asking me overheated questions. Thats when I broke." (trails off into whimpers and moans)
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I guess that NVA prison guard is right, John Mc Cain was never tortured. He never made hin wear women's panties on his head or made him look at naked women's boobies!
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The UN was pulling non-essential staff from Darfur yesterday as Islamist protesters rallied behind Sudanese President Omar Al Bashir over allegations he masterminded a campaign of genocide in the region.
Fears of a violent backlash have mounted since the International Criminal Court chief prosecutor on Monday sought an arrest warrant against Bashir on 10 counts including war crimes and the use of rape to commit genocide in Darfur.
United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon renewed his call for Khartoum to protect UN personnel after an international prosecutor sought the arrest of Sudan's president for alleged genocide.
"I again urge the government to fully cooperate with the United Nations," Ban said.
The African Union-United Nations peacekeeping mission, meanwhile, said it would be flying out non-essential staff to Ethiopia and Uganda, despite pledges from Sudan to protect peacekeepers and aid workers in the country.
Africa reacted with alarm to the prospect of the president being slapped with an arrest warrant for war crimes and slammed the global justice system as hasty, interventionist and biased.
US President George W Bush said he wanted to see how an international prosecutor's arrest warrant for Bashir "plays out," but that Khartoum could face more sanctions.
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Typical UN solution. After issuing dire declarations for years, once any of their cadre is on scene and get their asses kicked, they immediately surrender and withdraw. Really great way to solve genocidal problems. F**ktards.
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I try not to buy into the tinfoil brigade propaganda, but doesn't it seem extremely coincidental that anywhere in Africa that has oil also seems to have muslim problems, and the Chinese just "happen" to be nearby? Of course, the Chinese are also heavily invested in Zimbobway, which has the richest mineral deposits per land area in all of Africa. China, muslims and failed african states seem to find a common ground throughout the continent.
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(Xinhua) -- High cost of lawyers' fees has resulted to a rise of Americans handling their own court cases, with assistance from legal self-help sites and groups, a research group said Tuesday. The kind of self-handled cases has gone beyond civil cases involving small amounts of money to domestic problems, divorces and child custody matters, according to the National Center for State Courts.
To help Americans without lawyers, all 50 states and the District of Columbia have set up self-help centers.
An indicator of the growing acceptance of self-handled litigation is the 43,000 emails, phone and walk-in inquiries received in 2007 by the Hennepin County Self-Help Center in Minnesota. It is the largest number since the program started 11 years ago.
In San Diego, California, the number of unrepresented party in cases pending before the family court went up 70 percent in 2004 from 54 percent in the early 1990s.
A 2004 study by the New Hampshire Supreme Court task force said85 percent of civil cases in district court and 48 percent in superior court were tried without lawyers.
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Good!
The fewer lawyers we have the better. Parasites all.
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If the story of Sodom and Gamorha(?) was about lawyers, would we have any left? Might be a close call.
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This has been building up for many years. Phoenix, long ago, installed a kiosk divorce-vending machine for no-contest amiable divorces, over the bitter protestations of lawyers.
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The university I went to produced about 40 civil engineers in a good year, and churned out about 200 lawyers in the same period. That's 5 lawyers to hover over every CE like vultures waiting for you to make an error of any kind. You'd think those c*cksuckers would go broke with as many of them as there are.
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Something is terribly wrong when a society has more lawyers than doctors and police combined.
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Yes ed, but if both those professions cleaned their own house far more effectively and efficiently we wouldn't have an inviting environment that nurtures so many of the blighters either.
The Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan (HIA) of Afghanistan's former premier Gulbuddin Hekmatyar has blamed the Northern Alliance (NA) for the suicide attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul last week. In a statement issued on Tuesday, the HIA said the alliance backed such terrorist attacks due to its animosity towards Pakistan. The statement dismissed Afghan President Hamid Karzai's allegations that Pakistan was behind the attack on the Indian embassy. Certain leaders holding positions in Karzai's cabinet belonged to the NA, the statement said, adding that those leaders were persecuting their own countrymen. "Those [NA] people want to create differences between India and Pakistan with such tactics," said the HIA statement issued in Pushto. Leaders of the alliance had killed Afghans along with the Red Army in past, it said, and now they are cohorts of the Americans. The HIA condemned the killing of innocent people in attacks by warring groups, and directed its "mujahideen" to avoid targeting civilians. Hekmatyar is the founder of the , and held the office of from 1993 to 1994 and again in 1996-97.
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I wonder if these guys actually believe the bullshit that comes outta their mouths?
A 15-member grand peace jirga in Hangu asked the Hangu district administration on Tuesday to ceasefire and release Taliban prisoners to pave the way for an agreement with the militants. The jirga met Taliban leaders and discussed various options for reaching an agreement with the government. Jirga member Mufti Kifayatullah told journalists that the Taliban would abide by the jirga's decision. Local officials said Member of National Assembly (MNA) Pir Haidar Ali Shah, Member of NWFP Assembly (MPA) Mufti Syed Janan and Hangu Nazim Haji Khan Afzal Aurakzai had left for Peshawar to meet NWFP Chief Minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti to discuss conditions for a peace accord with the Taliban. Meanwhile, sources said hundreds of people staged a rally in support of peace in the Mohammad Khwaja area. The sources said protesters asked the government not to conduct a military operation and ensure safety of people's life and property.
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The Investigative Project on Terrorism (www.investigativeproject.org) exclusively reveals today that a major international interfaith conference set to start Wednesday in Madrid was organized by an alleged associate of a senior Al Qaeda financier and vocal supporter of Palestinian suicide bombings - Abdullah al-Turki. The conference is sponsored by the Muslim World League (MWL), which al-Turki heads.
In 1999, al-Turki is alleged to have been a partner in a Madrid construction project with a senior Al Qaeda financier. Profits from that deal were routed to Al Qaeda cells, according to allegations in WTC Properties v. Al Baraka et. al. Al-Turki's partner was Muhammed Galeb Kalaje Zouaydi, described in the litigation as "a high level al Qaeda financier" and a brother in law of Osama bin Laden. Spanish authorities arrested Zouaydi in 2002 for financing al Qaeda operations in Europe.
In the week following the 9/11 attacks, al-Turki told a radio interviewer that U.S. policy was responsible for the attacks and called Israel "the mother of terrorism." Later that year, at the National Press Club, al-Turki stated that Palestinian suicide bombers had no alternative to killing civilians.
This week's gathering is expected to attract dozens of American-based Muslims, including Sayyed Syeed and Ingrid Mattson from the Islamic Society of North America, Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, as well as six U.S. rabbis, including Marc Schneier of the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding and Steven Jacobs of Los Angeles. In addition, John Esposito, director of Georgetown University's Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding is among a few American academics invited to attend.
U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick (R-NC), who founded the bipartisan Congressional Anti-Terrorism Caucus, stated, "...I fail to understand how the goals of this conference can be achieved when the man running this summit is a suspected financier of terrorism...Call me old fashion, but actions always speak louder than words."
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Typical Muzz useless propaganda shit. Can we spare a single JDAM to attend ?
Tribal elders in the North Waziristan Agency warned on Tuesday that tribesmen were ready to defend their country against a possible invasion by foreign troops. "More than three million tribesmen would fight along the Pakistani security forces if foreign troops enter the Tribal Areas," said Malik Afzal Khan. The warning followed reports that a large number of United States and NATO troops were assembling in areas surrounding Pakistan's Tribal Areas.
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It would be funny as hell to see the Royal Mounted Wazir Tribesmen charging the plains of Khost on their goats.
HT to Gateway Pundit! I'm doing the "believe it when I see it" thing
Villagers and officials say hundreds of coalition troops, tanks and APCs airlifted to border area
ISPR spokesman says media creating 'unnecessary hype' about troop movement
Pakistan Army deployed along border placed on high alert
Taliban spokesman says proximity makes it easier to kill more US soldiers
heh...up close and personal death to Taliwhackers
By Haji Mujtaba
MIRANSHAH: A build up of Western coalition forces on the Afghan border spread alarm among villagers in North Waziristan on Tuesday, as residents and officials said that the Pakistan Army was gearing up for "any eventuality". "prepare to flee" If "any eventuality" includes war with the U.S. then it's time for the Paks to take a deep breath and count to 10. They've never won a war. We've won several. But I suspect this is more a case of whipping up the rubes and viewing with alarm than an actual push into North Wazoo.
Villagers and officials, requesting anonymity, said that hundreds of coalition troops had been airlifted to a border area near the Lawara village. "The coalition troops have started to strengthen their positions after setting up camp in the border areas adjacent to the Pak-Afghan border and US helicopters have been spotted hovering over target areas as support," officials said. and psyops
Reports from Afghanistan have said that helicopters have been transporting tanks and armoured personnel carriers (APCs) to Sarobagh and other landing strips in the Khost province, which neighbours the Tribal Areas. A villager said he could clearly see the troops. "Yeah! I seen 'em! They wuz big 'uns, too!"
"They were brought by helicopters. They are at the zero point," Akmal Khan, a resident of Lawara, told Reuters, referring to the disputed international boundary. The deployment is near Camp Tillman, a forward operating base for US forces. Camp Tillman, huh? Unnecessary:Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Athar Abbas played down concerns by saying it was probably a routine movement and the media had created "unnecessary hype". Sure. We often move large amounts of men and materiel to remote Afghan villages.
According to APP, he told Dawn News that the movements were restricted to within Afghan territory and were in preparation for an exercise or operation there. "We closely monitor all such moves so nothing occurs too close to the border. Certainly, we have co-ordination and communication with each other," he added. "We're on top of it, really! Why, right now I'm headed off to my office in Lahore to coordinate the coverage!" High alert: However, officials told Daily Times that the Pakistan Army deployed along the Pak-Afghan border has been placed on high alert in case of any infiltration. "getcher curly-toed track shoes on, boyz"
A spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan said there was no question of entering Pakistan. "Our mandate stops at the border," spokesman Captain Mike Finney said. There was some "extra activity" on the border with troops searching for surviving insurgents after Sunday's attack that killed nine US troops, he told AFP.
Welcome: Meanwhile, Bajaur Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar welcomed the build up on the border as a chance to kill more Americans. "It's a gift that they're coming here on our land and making it easy for us to kill our enemies, the enemies of Muslims," he told Reuters. Of course, Maulvi won't be anywhere near the killing, and would report thousands of Americans dead regardless, but I think the Talibs will get their chances at doe-eyed sheep virgins
In a separate statement to The Associated Press, he criticised a statement by Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani that had acknowledged the presence of foreign fighters in the Tribal Areas. "We will consider Prime Minister Gilani our enemy if the NATO or Pakistani security forces attack us after his baseless claim," he said.
The new government has promised to do whatever it can to secure the border with Afghanistan. Short of hunting down Baitullah Mehsud and killing him or tossing Maulvi Omar into the clink for 180 years.
However, a series of incidents along the border, including drone aircraft missile attacks, have fueled fears that the US military may be moving to a more offensive strategy in Pakistani territory.
This article starring:
Camp Tillman
Khost province
Lawara village
North Waziristan
Sarobagh
Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Athar Abbas
MAULVI OMAR
Taliban
Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani
spokesman Captain Mike Finney
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WORLDNEWS > AL QAEDA HAS FOUND THREE SAFE HAVENS FOR TERROR TRAINING. Pakistan, Algeria, + Somalia.
ALGERIA = AQ IN THE ISLAMIC MAGHREB is now in the forefront of AQ operations, although an estimated 2000 AQ Militants remain in thier core base inside Pakistan.
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Ya know what would be fun? If India decided to hold some "exercises" somewhere in the North. Maybe a couple reviews of troops, a tank drill or two, maybe some drone displays. Lots of bunting, brass bands and a smattering of sashes-n-sprockets.
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Ya know what would be fun? If India decided to hold some "exercises" somewhere in the North. Maybe a couple reviews of troops, a tank drill or two, maybe some drone displays. Lots of bunting, brass bands and a smattering of sashes-n-sprockets.
heh heh.. you are on to something there Sea... the Paki Military brass would melt down..
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NATO may be putting out a press release to let the Taliban know for several reasons.
First, to try and get a flood of fighters to concentrate on the other side of the border. That is why they are emphasizing "hundreds" of NATO, figuring that the bad guyz will be able to muster "thousands" so will think they can overwhelm NATO.
From that point, they either flood across the border into the arms of NATO, or are within range of a cross border air or indirect fire attack. Either way, a bunch of them get whacked.
The 49th Italian Transportation Company, the 1031st French Airborne Bakery Detail, the 2nd German Military Police Platoon, The 9th British Mobile Aid Station, and the US 10th Mountian division?
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Don't forget the fighting 515th Heavy Belgian Barbers ...
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...or the 356th Mechanized Royal Dutch Chocolatiers.
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Scratch the bakery detail, the smeel of fresh bread would be too much of a tipoff.
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Sounds like setting up for a merry round of fis-in-a-barrel. We be the fish. The True Believers come to destroy us and find themselves fighting barracudas. I hope it's something like this.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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By Dick Morris
A few miles from the Vatican, Najat Hadi kept house with her husband, his other wife and their assorted children, an unhappy home with a hateful woman 10 years her junior and a cruel spouse who left her with a jagged scar peeking from her collar. Finally, she says, her Egyptian-born husband, who worked in Rome making pizzas, beat her so badly that she left him. But he kept her children.
It's only a cartoon! But Obama adds that New Yorker cover insults Muslims 
KABUL (Reuters) - NATO forces in Afghanistan hit targets inside Pakistan with artillery and attack helicopters after coming under rocket fire from across the border, the alliance said on Wednesday. Troops from NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) "received multiple rocket attacks from militants inside Pakistan, July 15," the alliance said in a statement."The troops identified a (compound) as the point of origin of the attacks and responded in self-defence with a combination of fire from attack helicopters and artillery into Pakistan."
LONDON / ISLAMABAD: US troops in Afghanistan are massing close to the border with Pakistan, poised to launch bombing raids on suspected terrorist bases in the North Waziristan region, British and Pakistani newspapers reported Wednesday. 
U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry is taking aim at the Acela bullet train, saying the 8-year-old line meant to zip passengers between Boston and Washington is riddled with speed and safety issues that have thrown its swift mission off track.
Al Queda may be a Jewish organization and Osama bin Laden may be Jewish.
Thus, Obama is working to fill in the blanks for voters who are uneasy about him. His speeches and ads flesh out details of his biography and proposals. And he casts himself as a transformational figure who transcends partisanship and brings fresh ideas to fix Washington.
Animal rights activists protest outside the British embassy in Riga July 15, 2008, against the use of bear skin used to make hats worn by the British army's household regiment.
White House hopeful Barack Obama laid the groundwork for a vital trip abroad yesterday, vowing to shift the "single-minded" US focus from Iraq to Al Qaeda lairs in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Bombers killed around 40 people and wounded scores in several attacks in northern Iraq yesterday. In the worst attack, two suicide bombers killed 27 people and wounded 68 when they blew themselves up outside an army recruitment centre in Baquba, 65km northeast of Baghdad.
Welcome: Meanwhile, Bajaur Taliban spokesman 
