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Africa Subsaharan
'Pressure can't conclude Zimbabwe deal'
Robert Mugabe's aide says Zimbabwe will not bow to pressure but will seek advice from other African leaders on forming a power-sharing government. "They can't impose anything on us, especially on such a small matter as the allocation of ministries," The chief negotiator for President Robert Mugabe's party, Patrick Chinamasa, was quoted as saying by the state-run Sunday Mail newspaper.

Chinamasa stressed that Mugabe and opposition leaders are to meet Monday with the presidents of Angola, Mozambique and Swaziland in Mbabane, Swaziland.

The three nations represent the Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) which has supported former South African President Thabo Mbeki's efforts to mediate Zimbabwe's political crisis. "All the principals and their negotiating teams are going (to the meeting). Delegations from the three parties will be called upon to clarify any issues. After this, the troika will guide us on the way forward," Chinamasa highlighted.

Mbeki left Harare early Saturday after four days of talks failed to resolve which 15 ministries Mugabe's ZANU party should get. Mbeki was to submit a report on the stalled negotiations to the three regional nations.

Under the power-sharing deal signed Sept. 15, thirteen Cabinet posts are to go to opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai's party and three others to a smaller opposition party led by Arthur Mutambara.

The opposition has accused Mugabe of trying to hold onto too many key posts.

Last week, Mugabe appointed three members of his party as head of key ministries of defense, home affairs and finance. Tsvangirai, who had threatened to pull out of talks after Mugabe's move, said on Saturday that he was committed to continue talks with his rival party until a final solution is reached.
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Bangladesh
BNP, Jamaat revise constitutions
In developments late last night, BNP made some major changes in its constitution to apply for registration with the Election Commission (EC) on the closing date today.

Earlier in the day, the party and its key ally Jamaat-e-Islami collected forms from the EC Secretariat. A couple of days back, Jamaat too brought about drastic changes in its charter to meet the criteria for registration, now mandatory for political parties seeking election to parliament.

Throughout the day yesterday, both the parties were busy readying documents required to be attached to the forms for registration. The interim constitution of BNP does not provide for front organisations and chapters abroad. It however has a provision like arch-rival AL's to allow associated organisations.
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Britain
UK: Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones
Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance. Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it marks the latest government move to create a surveillance society.

A compulsory national register for the owners of all 72m mobile phones in Britain would be part of a much bigger database to combat terrorism and crime. Whitehall officials have raised the idea of a register containing the names and addresses of everyone who buys a phone in recent talks with Vodafone and other telephone companies, insiders say.

The move is targeted at monitoring the owners of Britain's estimated 40m prepaid mobile phones. They can be purchased with cash by customers who do not wish to give their names, addresses or credit card details. The pay-as-you-go phones are popular with criminals and terrorists because their anonymity shields their activities from the authorities. But they are also used by thousands of law-abiding citizens who wish to communicate in private.

The move aims to close a loophole in plans being drawn up by GCHQ, the government's eavesdropping centre in Cheltenham, to create a huge database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain. The "Big Brother" database would have limited value to police and MI5 if it did not store details of the ownership of more than half the mobile phones in the country.

Contingency planning for such a move is already thought to be under way at Vodafone, where 72% of its 18.5m UK customers use pay-as-you-go.

The office of Richard Thomas, the information commissioner, said it anticipated that a compulsory mobile phone register would be unveiled as part of a law which ministers would announce next year. "With regards to the database that would contain details of all mobile users, including pay-as-you-go, we would expect that this information would be included in the database proposed in the draft Communications Data Bill," a spokeswoman said.

Simon Davies, of Privacy International, said he understood that several mobile phone firms had discussed the proposed database in talks with government officials.

As The Sunday Times revealed earlier this month, GCHQ has already been provided with up to £1 billion to work on the pilot stage of the Big Brother database, which will see thousands of "black boxes" installed on communications lines provided by Vodafone and BT as part of a pilot interception programme.

The proposals have sparked a fierce backlash inside Whitehall. Senior officials in the Home Office have privately warned that the database scheme is impractical, disproportionate and potentially unlawful. The revolt last week forced Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, to delay announcing plans for the database until next year.
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#1  This move will likely set a trend.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/20/2008 4:40 Comments || Top||

#2  It would be better to register their religious affiliation, if you get my drift!
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/20/2008 8:37 Comments || Top||

#3  The next time a mobile phone is used to trigger a terrorist attack, the UK will at least know who purchased the phone. Of course, the terrorists will simply revert to stealing phones just before the attack, but it might slow them down a tiny bit.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/20/2008 15:36 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Hugo Feels the Pinch
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has delighted in the economic meltdown in the United States, mocking the Bush administration for its bailout plan and predicting the end of American economic dominance. "The U.S. model of capitalism is collapsing," Chavez, a self-avowed socialist, told reporters recently.

The price of a barrel of oil has fallen from $147 in July to less than $70, and analysts say the drop is a blow to Chavez's free-spending administration, which depends on oil for 50 percent of government revenue and 95 percent of its export earnings.
But Venezuela's oil-fueled economy is deeply intertwined with the United States and is poised to face major challenges as the crisis pushes down the price of crude, economic analysts and oil experts say. The price of a barrel of oil has fallen from $147 in July to less than $70, and analysts say the drop is a blow to Chavez's free-spending administration, which depends on oil for 50 percent of government revenue and 95 percent of its export earnings. Other oil-producing countries, which like Venezuela ramped up spending as the price of oil rose to historic highs in recent years, also face serious economic problems, analysts say.

Robert Bottome, editor of Veneconomia, a Caracas business newsletter, said that if the price continues to fall, Chavez's populist government will face economic turmoil. "The common perception is that the Venezuelan government goes bankrupt," he said, "that they cannot meet their obligations."

Chavez has said that such prognostications are wishful thinking generated by his foes and that Venezuela, with $40 billion in Central Bank reserves, will ride out the storm. He is among the leaders in OPEC, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, who will attend an emergency meeting Friday that could lead to a production cut to boost prices. "Many want the oil price to continue to drop to see us fail, but Venezuela is not going to go under," said Chavez, who has built what he calls his Bolivarian revolution by exporting oil to the United States.

But perhaps more than any oil-exporting country, Venezuela could be particularly exposed if the worldwide financial meltdown continues. That would slow economic growth, reduce the need for petroleum products and further drive down oil prices. Venezuela exports about 1.4 million barrels daily to the United States, about 10 percent of U.S. oil imports.

The dire predictions come as the inflation rate in Venezuela has surpassed 36 percent and the black market rate for dollars has shot well beyond the fixed government rate. JP Morgan, in a research note this month, predicted that economic growth in Venezuela would reach 5 percent this year and 2.5 percent next year. Last year, the economy grew by 8.4 percent. "Venezuela is the one that's in the most difficult position, relative to the other OPEC countries," said RoseAnne Franco, lead analyst on Latin America for PFC Energy, a consulting firm in Washington.

PFC Energy said in a report that oil must be at least $94 a barrel to ensure Venezuela's macroeconomic stability this year and generate enough money to pay for imports. Although Chavez frequently touts his country's independence from Washington, Venezuela is more reliant than ever on the food, auto parts, medicine, construction materials and other products it imports from the United States and Colombia, a close U.S. ally.
Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's the thing about central bank money. One minute it's there, and the next, it's gone, as if by magic.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/20/2008 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Hang in there, Hugo. Three months and you should be able to get the US foreign aid you're requesting.
Posted by: KBK || 10/20/2008 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Go hit up Joe Kennedy for some spare change, Oogo.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/20/2008 1:03 Comments || Top||

#4  OT --- Sea -- I think there have been a couple of APB's out for you. Just so you know.... it's nice to be missed.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 1:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Venezuela was making plenty of money two and a half years ago, when oil was about the price it is now.
Posted by: Tranquil Mechanical Yeti || 10/20/2008 1:29 Comments || Top||

#6  But since then Hugo bought a new place and he can't face the mortgages.
Posted by: JFM || 10/20/2008 1:41 Comments || Top||

#7  We will know he has a problem if he cuts back his orders for aircraft, tanks and guns (unless he plans to use them to reinforce FARC in invading his neighbors).
Posted by: tipover || 10/20/2008 1:44 Comments || Top||

#8  The US gets 10% of its oil imports from him. Arrgh.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 3:16 Comments || Top||

#9  hindsight is 20 20. bobo failed to capitalize on the bubble in oil prices, unlike Saudi Arabia who pumped for all they were worth capturing a larger share of the bubbles, venezoo actually had declining production, believing that the bubble could be made to go higher through scarcity. now the price has receeded, and bobos production is still falling, his 40 billion will become 20 then 10 then 5. some suggest he will cut back on his adventures in modernizing his military....but he wont, again he'll increase his spending believing it will add too his power....it wont battle field assets are only as durable as the oppositions ability to counterprogram them, here too bobo, has mistook the essence and nature of bubbles.Soviet willingness to aid bobo in his end run around moral certaintude, speaks to the regularity of what lenin characterizes as long lines of useful idiots....who the revolution can always count upon, to meet the CPU's demand for extemporaneous largesse.

Posted by: Spiny Gl 2511 || 10/20/2008 8:03 Comments || Top||

#10  Capitalism: "Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated".

Socialism, being parasitic in nature, requires capitalism to feed off of.
Posted by: Ulusoling Hatfield4645 || 10/20/2008 8:21 Comments || Top||

#11  The problem is that it takes much more refining productivity and cost to break down his crude to gasoline and No. 2 fuel oil. If bunker C is goo - Venezuela crude is tar pitch. High sulfur also. Not the most environmentally friendly. There is some emulsification that can take place to allow to burn in atomized burners for power but it is more costly. Oil needs to be over $90 for them to net out.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/20/2008 8:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Chavez has compounded Venezuela's problems in several ways. He has underinvested in the oil sector and Venezuelan production has dropped. That drop, as much as 500,000 bbd, was masked by the rapid increase in prices, but will exacerbate the revenue drop as prices come down. Second, he has subsidized domestic consumption of oil, which has left less for revenue producing exports. Third, he has taken over most private farms, turning Venezuela, once self sufficient in food, into a massive importer of basic foodstuffs. Fourth, he has corrupted the financial sector, which now depends on government business for profits. Finally, he has nationalized most non-oil basic industries, which has left them unproductive.

The Venezuelan economy is poised for collapse and the Venezuelan people are going to suffer greatly.
Posted by: DoDo || 10/20/2008 10:59 Comments || Top||

#13  The Venezuelan economy is poised for collapse and the Venezuelan people are going to suffer greatly.

10-1 BoBo isn't going to be hung by angry mobs when it happens either.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/20/2008 11:10 Comments || Top||

#14  Who knows, maybe Hugo will get his Allende moment yet. It's not like he doesn't have one coming for all the idiocy he's promulgated.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 10/20/2008 12:07 Comments || Top||

#15  The only country that pays cash for Hugo's oil is the US, the rest buy on easy credit terms. Cashflow as Hugo knows it would change in an instant if we stopped buying Venezuelan oil.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 10/20/2008 14:43 Comments || Top||

#16  I wonder if we'll be seeing the steady stream of 1-800-Joe-4-Oil ads this winter.
Posted by: Woozle Unusosing8053 || 10/20/2008 15:37 Comments || Top||

#17  The US gov wish pipe dream plan is for Canada to ramp up by 3 million barrels/day their oil sands production to replace, if required, Venezuelan and Saudi imports. Though I'm not sure how many Canadians will agree.

This while there are many untapped energy reserves at home. ANWAR alone could already be producing 800,000 barrels a day or over 15% of US production, replacing the majority of Venezuelan imports. But our so called "leaders" are too damned myopic and vested in their little D.C. power games to actually lead the country into a sane future. Damn them all to hell.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:07 Comments || Top||

#18  Damn them all to hell.
Posted by: ed 2008-10-20 18:07


DOUBLE damn them all.... and Bernacke and Paulson along with them.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 18:08 Comments || Top||

#19  Deflation. BOHICA for all the POS. heh
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 10/20/2008 19:47 Comments || Top||

#20  800,000 barrels/day at $70/barrel is over $20B/year. That will support 250,000 middle class jobs or 750K-1M jobs if you consider that the money will circulate 3-4 times in a year instead of leaving the country.

That's what it is really about. Starving the middle class into pissed off lower class voters.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 21:23 Comments || Top||

#21  Hugo is in a curious pickle, like most south of the border tinpots. Argentina tried to break the mold by taking on UK, but thankfully Lady Thatcher was around to stop that - the rest of SA tyrants don't have the typical outlet of tyrants elsewhere - namely attack the neighbor. Bolivarian solidarity and all that make for a tricky situation - more amenable to the low-level meddling like the Sandanistas, or purely internal suppression.

Hugo's courting trouble already within Venezuela, and risks disaster if he tries anything overt against Colombia, and doesn't have any other useful enemies. There's little chance he could provoke us into anything approaching the Cuban situation - where we have our own axes to grind.

Unfortunately, ZimBob Mugabe is probably the likeliest mentor for him to follow - horrible for locals, not much effect on the rest of us.
Posted by: Don Vito Omeling5062 || 10/20/2008 21:28 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
South Korea to Guarantee Foreign Debt
TOKYO, Oct. 19 -- To shore up a tumbling stock market and a troubled currency, South Korea announced Sunday it would guarantee $100 billion of foreign debt and supply $30 billion to banks and exporters in urgent need of dollars. Amid a global financial crisis, South Korea has emerged as perhaps the most vulnerable major economy in Asia, despite plenty of foreign reserves in its central bank and booming exports to China, India and the Middle East.

The credit ratings agency Standard & Poor's placed five major South Korean banks on a watch list last week, citing their problems in finding dollars to pay back foreign currency loans. President Lee Myung-bak has pleaded with citizens to stop hoarding dollars and "refrain from greedily pursuing private interests."

Still, finance and central bank officials in Seoul had resisted the kind of sweeping guarantees to banks and financial institutions that have been offered in the United States, Europe and elsewhere in Asia. They had repeatedly said that the fundamentals of their country's economy were strong -- and blamed the foreign press for exaggerating financial problems.
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Europe
Turkish court prepares to try suspects in alleged coup plot
A Turkish court will Monday begin hearing a case against 86 people accused of membership in a shadowy armed group that plotted to overthrow the country's Islamist-rooted government. The accused will answer about 30 separate charges ranging from membership in a terrorist organization.
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Home Front: Politix
Nickelodeon's kids pick Kerry as president
Drudge ran the headline: "NICKELODEON 'KIDS VOTE'... Obama 51% (1,167,087), McCain 49% (1,129,945)...", which linked here.

Which got me thinking, "What's the predictive value of this exercise?" Thankfully, in 2004 Nickelodeon kids picked Kerry as President by 57 percent of the vote, to President George W. Bush's 43 percent. So, I'm feeling much better about McCain's chances.
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#1  Pit them both against Spongebob Squarepants.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 21:51 Comments || Top||

#2  ahem...the "O" in the "Vote" button was Obama's "O" symbol....nice and balanced, Nickelodeon
Posted by: Frank G || 10/20/2008 22:11 Comments || Top||


Barack Obama vows to 'change the world'
The supremely confident demeanour and exalted rhetoric of the Democratic nominee at a New Hampshire event betrayed that he is a man convinced he is poised to make history.

While his Republican opponent John McCain, trailing in the polls, is pursuing a strategy of eking out a victory in traditional swing states, Mr Obama is transferring resources to conservative strongholds like Georgia, West Virginia and even Kentucky in pursuit of a landslide victory.

Speaking in an apple orchard against the picture-perfect New England backdrop of an red, green and yellow autumn foliage on a stage adorned with pumpkins and hay bales, Mr Obama reminded voters of the dangers of hubris.

Polls indicated that the young Illinois senator was cruising towards a crushing victory over Hillary Clinton in the state's Democratic primary. His rallies were two or three times the size of hers. The media had declared him the victor, a conclusion shared by Obama aides.

On election day, however, Mrs Clinton won. "We are 19 days away from changing this country. Nineteen days away. But for those who are getting a little cocky, I've got two words for you: New Hampshire," said Mr Obama.

"I learned right here, with the help of my great friend and supporter Hillary Clinton, that you cannot let up, you can't pay too much attention to polls. We've got to keep making our case for change. We've got to keep fighting for every single vote. We've got to keep running through the finish line."

At a glitzy fundraising event in Manhattan at which Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel performed Mr Obama warned high-roller supporters: "Don't underestimate the capacity of Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Don't underestimate our ability to screw it up."

But much of Mr Obama's speech in Londonderry - punctuated by cries of "We all love you Obama", "I love you" and "We will work with you" - was devoted to the kind of quasi-religious sentiments and motivational-coach style exhortations, the kind of pride that set him up for a big fall in January.

"I want you to believe," said the candidate, clad in an open-necked shirt and barn jacket. "Not so much believe just in me but believe in yourselves. Believe in the future. Believe in the future we can build together. I'm confident together we can't fail."

There was a carnival atmosphere among the crowd of some 4,000, who almost drowned Mr Obama out as he reached his crescendo and said: "I promise you. We won't just win New Hampshire. We will win this election and, you and I together, we're going to change the country and change the world."

Mr Obama was described as "preternaturally confident" in a gushing endorsement by the Washington Post on Friday.

His supreme self-belief has also been the target of late-night comedians. "With just 19 days left until the election, Barack Obama warned supporters today to guard against overconfidence," Amy Poehler of Saturday Night Live reported.

"Then he boarded Air Force One, blasted 'We Are The Champions' and shouted 'I'm King of the World'."

Both Democrats and Republicans in New Hampshire appear convinced that Mr Obama will win.

"We feel we're on the brink of a whole new life in this country," said Betsy Whitman, 69.

"Sure, he'll win," said Marlene Hulme, 70, at the Londonderry event. "Our expectations were high today and he knocked it out of the park."

A lone McCain supporter at the rally said she too was convinced that the Republican nominee was finished. "McCain has lost," said Deborah Barnhart, 48, who runs a landscaping business.

"He's lost because the Messiah has spoken and we're going to change the world. That's all people want to hear after eight years of Bush. Obama thinks he's won. Everyone here thinks he's won."
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/20/2008 18:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr Obama is transferring resources to conservative strongholds like Georgia

Whahahhaha.... good luck with that.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 18:06 Comments || Top||

#2  A crowd of 4K? Bussed in from VT, MA and RI.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 10/20/2008 19:29 Comments || Top||

#3  If Zero wins then his bubble will burst REALLY quickly.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/20/2008 19:56 Comments || Top||

#4  I have no doubt the world will change under an Obama administration. A lot of allies will be forced to defend themselves or disappear from the world. In the process we'll save money and proclaim how great and peaceful the US is for not getting involved.

Europeans will gain a new respect for the US and wish they hadn't shit on the hand that defended them.

And the US economy, going socialist, will slow and the world will slow with it helping to lengthen the recession.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/20/2008 20:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Barack Obama vows to 'change the world'


Exactly what scares me ...
Posted by: Steve White || 10/20/2008 21:08 Comments || Top||

#6  I wanted to change the world, but they wouldn't give me the source code.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/20/2008 21:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Alvin Lee and Ten Years After were more honest
Posted by: Frank G || 10/20/2008 22:10 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm glad he is going to waste his money in Georgia. He needs to spend all his fortune down here, so McCain can quickly pick up some points in the other states. I wonder how the mainstream illuminati media will report that Obama lost the election from drinking too much of his own Kool-aid!
Posted by: Threrert Dark Lord of the Sith6857 || 10/20/2008 22:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Yeah Frank G! I'd forgotten that. Alvin Lee could definitely wield the axe with the best of them.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 10/20/2008 22:44 Comments || Top||

#10  They call it change, but Leftists only fuck it up.
Posted by: Hyper || 10/20/2008 23:13 Comments || Top||

#11  TOPIX/FREEREPUBLIC > OBAMA VEEP BIDEN WARNS WORLD WILL NOT WAIT SIX WEEKS TO TEST OBAMA PRESIDENCY, US MUST GIRD ITS LOINS [Kennedy-Kruschev Crises].

*RENSE: JOE BIDEN: GLOBAL AUSTERITY, WAR WITH RUSSIA? [tests]UNDER OBAMA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/20/2008 23:42 Comments || Top||

#12  I am sure, Biden was speaking hypothetically. Trying to make imaginary (and visual) parallels with Kennedy (and resolute image of him). No one is going to make any "crisis" specifically to test Obama.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:47 Comments || Top||


Obama Praised 'Searing and Timely' Book by Ayers
Barack Obama, who has consistently downplayed his relationship with William Ayers during his presidential campaign, once gave a glowing endorsement of a book by the former domestic terrorist and was mentioned by name in the book itself.

A blogger unearthed the Dec. 21, 1997, endorsement in the Chicago Tribune and posted photographs of the praise for Ayers' book on Zombietime.com Saturday.

Featured next to a smiling photograph of himself, then-State Senator Obama called Ayers' book, "A Kind and Just Parent: Children of the Juvenile Court," a "searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair."

The book, which details life at the Chicago Juvenile Court prison school, mentions Obama by name on page 82 when it describes Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood:

"Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama. Minister Louis Farrakhan lives a block from our home and adds, we think, a unique dimension to the idea of 'safe neighborhood watch': the Fruit of Islam, his security force, has an eye on things twenty-four-hours a day."

The Obama campaign said the blurb was not a full-fledged review of the book.

"He didn't do a review. He provided one line about the book to the Tribune," campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told FOXNews.com.

A month before the item appeared, on Nov. 20, 1997, Michelle Obama, then dean of student services and director of the University Community Service Center, held a panel at the University of Chicago that featured both Barack Obama and Ayers.

"Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system," the University of Chicago Chronicle reported on Nov. 6, 1997.

Obama has been criticized for refusing to elaborate on the extent of his relationship with Ayers and for claiming to have had no idea Ayers was a co-founder of the Wesather Underground, which claimed responsibility for bombing the Pentagon, U.S. Capitol and a New York Supreme Court justice's home in the Sixties.

The Obama campaign has noted that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers and the Weather Underground were active and has no link to their activities. Ayers has said he has "no regrets" about his participation in the domestic terror group.

"A Kind and Just Parent" was in stock at Amazon.com and ranked 51,273 in sales on Monday
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Biden expects his administration to get low approval ratings(!)
Jim Geraghty, "Campaign Spot" @ National Review

I hadn't seen this part of Biden's remarks at a fundraiser in Seattle:

Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

Extremely interesting comments here. I have been predicting that the next president was going to inherit so many problems, with such unpopular and slow-progressing solutions, that the presidency would almost seem like a poisoned chalice. Tom Daschle told a Washington power breakfast that he thought the winner of the election would have a 50 per cent chance at best - at best - of winning a second term in 2012.

Interesting to see that Biden is expecting a rough ride from January 2009 to fall 2010. And I wonder if he meant that his audience at that moment - liberal donors - were going to have to be prepared to stick with an Obama-Biden administration. Is it because the new administration will be unpopular, be perceived as failing, or that they will chart a course that will be more conservative than these liberal donors would want?
My guess: they'll go whole hog for the liberal laundry list: card-check, federally funded abortions, bailing on Iraq, and raise taxes--all stuff that's not popular if you poll issue by issue. Then, when the economy slows down, and people get buyer's remorse, . . .

His comment seems to suggest that within one year, these donors' faith in Obama and Biden will be shaken. Interesting, and probably too honest for his own good...
Posted by: Mike || 10/20/2008 15:08 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Geez, Joe's chockfull of wisdom today. A regular friggin Nostrodamus...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 15:35 Comments || Top||

#2  The approval ratings will be low until the "Fairness Doctrine" kicks in and all dissent is stifled. Then you'll only hear "Happy News".
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/20/2008 18:04 Comments || Top||

#3  A regular friggin Nostrodamus...

Ain't he the guy that said "I have seen the future...and boy, is it dumb!"?
Posted by: SteveS || 10/20/2008 18:22 Comments || Top||

#4  It is very possible that many Democrats do not know how Socalist Obama is and Biden knows that when they learn they will be unhappy.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/20/2008 20:19 Comments || Top||


Obama faces first crisis, backs Rays, Phillies
Thank you, Mr. Decisive...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 13:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He'll back of them - back them up 30 minutes for his infomercial. What a chode.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/20/2008 15:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Those aren't the Phillies I knew.
Posted by: The Obamessiah || 10/20/2008 15:53 Comments || Top||


Every USA Church, Synagogue Gets Militant Islam DVD
Over 325,000 rabbis, priests and pastors in every Jewish and Christian congregation in America just received the award-winning documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West on DVD, according to the publisher of a new periodical for clerical leaders, The Judeo-Christian View, which included the film inside the first issue.

The publication -- signed by dozens of rabbis and pastors who concur that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's policies on same-sex unions and partial birth abortion tend to inflame U.S. tensions with Islamists and are at odds with their ancient Biblical faiths -- went out by U.S. mail and is heading online ( www.thejudeo-christianview.com) to another 10 million congregational leaders and laity as part of an ambitious subscription strategy. The new "multimedia opinion journal" also includes an "interfaith video sermon" on DVD and online that discusses Obama's support for repealing the Defense of Marriage Act, which shields states from forced recognition of same-sex marriages originating in Massachusetts, California and now, Connecticut pursuant to a state Supreme Court ruling on October 10.
Posted by: tipper || 10/20/2008 07:27 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I could really care less what "inflames" Islam. I am a little upset that the Christian right waited this long to get out and work against the one.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/20/2008 10:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Actually it's kind of ironic. The LLL, having beaten down the social conservative movement in the courts must now face jihad. Actually it's sweet irony.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/20/2008 13:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Better that than the New York Times.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/20/2008 16:29 Comments || Top||


Obama Assembles U.S.'s `Largest Law Firm' to Monitor Election
In Florida, Democratic lawyer Charles H. Lichtman has assembled almost 5,000 lawyers to monitor precincts, assist voters turned away at the polls and litigate any disputes that can't be resolved out of court.

``On Election Day, I will be managing the largest law firm in the country, albeit for one day,'' said Lichtman, 53, a Fort Lauderdale corporate lawyer.
Article recaps conflicts in multiple states over voter registrations. Election Day promises to become Election Season in 2008.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 03:36 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's a crime in many states to engage in 'electioneering' within 50 feet of a polling place. Though we know that lawyers exempt themselves from the law [ie Law School unlawful discriminatory racial quota practices].
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/20/2008 8:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Half the lawyers in the US are proved wrong every day.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/20/2008 8:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Lichtman is an expert on terrorism and the author of the nationally acclaimed espionage novel dealing with terrorism, The Last Inauguration.

After Obama becomes president, why would we need another inauguration?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 9:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Democratic lawyer Charles H. Lichtman has assembled almost 5,000 lawyers to monitor precincts, assist [thugs turn away] voters turned away at the polls and litigate any [possible] disputes that [might stand a chance of disqualifying a vote for McCain] can't be resolved out of court.

Fixed.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 11:12 Comments || Top||

#5  So that's what all the Campaign Fundraising was for.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/20/2008 11:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Obama will bring Change by suing his way into the Oval Office.

More and more I think I need to buy a couple guns.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/20/2008 11:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama is a fake.

He is a "manufactured product" of the Dems, socialists, media moguls, and foreign interests. George Soros and Bill Ayers are all over this. This is called, in academia, "societal deconstruction."

The Obots will manufacture a "CRISIS", along with the 'rest of the world (which) loves Obama," , so that Obama can catapult the USA into a socialist state.

"We were facing tough decisions . . . we need you to stand with us . . . support (whatever) we do . . ."

I'm voting McCain, because it was Obama, Pelosi, Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. who GOT US INTO the FreddieMac FannieMay debacle in the first place. The Dems were warned over and over by McCain and by Bush, but they paid no heed.

This plan, to put a socialist in the White House, and eliminate criticism along the way with "the race argument," has been planned for a long, long time. Why do you think Obama is advocting for a military-like civil army to replace our local police, sheriffs, and state patrol? Why do you think he's building his base by a huge money give away to the welfare class which the Dems so carefully constructed over the years?

Biden is just too stupid to keep his mouth shut about this thing they're planning, and obviously he's feeling nervous about it and is barking before the bomb or the even worse econ crisis goes off.





testing





Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 13:04 Comments || Top||

#8  weird -- my post didn't post, only a previous one from another blog . . .

anyway, one of the things the deconstructionists will do is to cause people to lose confidence in the voting process
Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#9  ex-lib - I said much the same thing on another blog.

Obama and his masters will create a 'financial crisis' while will allow him to make the 'unpopular decisions' - impose fairness doctrine, nationalize key industries (finanical / oil), raise taxes (on >50K earners), etc...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 13:49 Comments || Top||

#10  So this is where the money is going? An army of lawyers? - paging Bruce Cambell to the red courtesy phone.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/20/2008 15:00 Comments || Top||

#11  That is my thought exactly CF. This whole thing is fake--Obama wants world power, not just to be president.

Have a question: does anyone know, conclusively (or otherwise) if Obama's mother happened to be Jewish (albeit non-practising)? Thanks . . . am doing some research and wondering if anyone has anything on that.
Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 16:59 Comments || Top||

#12  . . . and don't worry, y'all. I'm not against the jooos. It's about something else.

thanks
Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 17:00 Comments || Top||

#13  Ex-lib, Obama's mother was an atheist, though I would say her religion was socialism. Per B. H. Obama, "My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew. But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution."

Obama's father was raised muslim but was non-practicing, since socialism was the new religion of the Kenyan elites.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 17:39 Comments || Top||

#14  "socialism was the new religion of the Kenyan elites."

1) Socialism is not a religion.
2)BTW, McCane just asked Russia today to finance his election campain. What do you all have to say about that?
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 17:55 Comments || Top||

#15  Martin Bormann stated in a secret decree of the Party Chancellery signed by him and distributed to all Gauleiters on June 7, 1941:

Our National Socialist ideology is far loftier than the concepts of Christianity, which in their essential points have been taken over from Jewry. A differentiation between the various Christian confessions is not to be made here the Evangelical Church is just as inimical to us as the Catholic Church. All influences, which might impair or damage the leadership of the people exercised by the Füehrer with the help of the NSDAP must be eliminated. More and more the people must be separated from the churches and their organs the pastors. Just as the deleterious influences of astrologers, seers and other fakers are eliminated and suppressed by the State, so must the possibility of church influence also be totally removed. Not until this has happened, does the state leadership have influence on the individual citizens. Not until then are the people and Reich secure in their existence for all time." (Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression, Volume I)

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 18:03 Comments || Top||

#16  The passage above is merely a recipe for asserting greater fascist state control. It is inapposite to the discussion above on several grounds: (i) national socialism is different from socialism, (ii) the separation of the church and state is actually one of the fundamental principles of most countries, including the U.S. (it is the prohibition on free practice of religion which is a hallmark of the totalitarian states), and (iii) it fails to illustrate that "socialism" is a religion in itself. "Socialism" is merely an economic system, typically characterized by centrally planned economy. In a social area, it is characterized by things like "pensions," "free medical care," "free education." But whatever it is, it is not a religion . . . . There is some "socialism" in the U.S. as well as in practially any country.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 18:14 Comments || Top||

#17  Obama's father was raised muslim but was non-practicing, since socialism was the new religion of the Kenyan elites

1) Any person of any religion is allowed to run if he's a US citizen, but Obama is Christian

2) Socialist word is being thrown around so much, it just proves how ignorant you are and reminds me of McCarthyism.

3) Why the hell would the Kenyan elites want socialism because that means nobody is allowed to own anything and Kenya is still free market. duh

4) Obama's father, who he barely met is not running for president. duh

5) McCain/Palin crowd is now bordering on racism..no matter how much you deny it! I was open minded that it wasn't before but everything I've been reading the last few weeks indicates so. You may deny it but the most of the voters out there feel it's racism now. Too late to explain.

6) McCain has NOTHING but a negative campaign, very unprofessional.
Posted by: Javigum White4558 || 10/20/2008 18:21 Comments || Top||

#18  1) Socialism is not a religion.
Socialism is a grotesque suicide cult hidden under a placid mask of "caring". It produces the living incarnations of Kali in the forms of Stalin, Mao and all their little demon wannabes. Isn't 120+ Million murdered "eggs" just this past century enough to satisfy your sick appetite? Is the depopulation of your people and continent to be replaced by a more fecund outward looking death cult what you want?

2)BTW, McCane just asked Russia today to finance his election campain.
McCain Solicits Russian U.N. Ambassador
Sen. John McCain, straining to match Sen. Barack Obama's fundraising juggernaut, inadvertently reached out to an unlikely donor: Russia's U.N. ambassador Vitaly I. Churkin.

You are a piece of work G_C, the rightful heir of Julius Streicher. Turning a mistaken name added to a mass mailing list to be McCain going hat in hand to the Russian heirs of the KGB. Whatever lies to advance the collective G_C, only to find that beheading knives unsheathed in your lands and no friends to come rescue you next time.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Wow! Someone on Rantburg is playing the RACE CARD!

Let the games begin!

So how are people being RACIST? By disagreeing with Zero? By taking offense to his associates? His Policies? His SOCIALIST Agenda?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 18:26 Comments || Top||

#20  Socialism is what replaces religion, GC.

"McCane just asked Russia today to finance his election campain. What do you all have to say about that?"

Gee, where does one start? How about - "yer an idiot", though that's not very civil - well reasoned as it is.

"Why the hell would the Kenyan elites want socialism because that means nobody is allowed to own anything and Kenya is still free market. duh"

Maybe because they're socialists? duh!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/20/2008 18:26 Comments || Top||

#21  Half the lawyers in the US are proved wrong every day.

That does not mean what you think it means. The cases which are actually do get to be tried (or even litigated) present very close calls. The lawyers on both sides simply take positions and support them the best they can in the interests of their clients. That one side ultimately loses at trial does not mean the lawyers "have been proven wrong." And even then -- there are appeals. But that's a different story.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 18:30 Comments || Top||

#22  To post # 18:

Wow, that's a lot of big words right there . . . .
Chill out, I am just pointing out that socialism is not a religion, technically. It also not necessarily replaces a religion. Sometimes they co-exist, or known to have co-existed.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 18:36 Comments || Top||

#23  National Socialism, International Socialism. Can you what the two have in common? Can you tell me which of the two actually murdered fewer people?

Socialism goes far beyond the separation of church and state. It seeks the destruction of the church and to replace the religion of the church with the religion of the state. Whether it is physical destruction of churches and the liquidation of the priests as practiced by international socialists or the soft socialist's decay of the individual spirit accompanied by the physical decay of the houses of worship, the result is the same. The decay of the individual initiative and community spirit replaced by the state as the mother and father.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:37 Comments || Top||

#24  "McCane just asked Russia today to finance his election campain. What do you all have to say about that?"

Gee, where does one start? How about - "yer an idiot", though that's not very civil - well reasoned as it is.


I have asked for an opinion, not an insult. The idiot here is YOU . . . .
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 18:39 Comments || Top||

#25  National Socialism, International Socialism. Can you what the two have in common? Can you tell me which of the two actually murdered fewer people?

People tend to do awful things to people, and the advent of socialism or capitalism have not changed that a bit.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 18:43 Comments || Top||

#26 

Not all muslims are anti-us.
Posted by: Javigum White4558 || 10/20/2008 18:49 Comments || Top||

#27  Obama is not just socialist, he's a Marxist. That's the press's nice word for Communist. He was raided by hard socialist parents and grand parents, mentored from teens to adulthood by a card carrying Communist party member (and child molester). He worked for years and learned the political system and path to power from a Communist rabble rouser whose purpose was to bring down the United States and replace with a communist dictatorship. Shared an office for years with a terrorist who failed in his attempt to create a new communist utopia by bombing the US gov into submission and recently said he would do it again. Worshiped for 20 years in a house of racism, whose foundation is communism and black racial superiority, whose rallying cry was if god did not serve only the black race then it their duty to kill god. Yeah, lay on some of that racism, JW, and get torn to shreds.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:51 Comments || Top||

#28  People tend to do awful things to people, and the advent of socialism or capitalism have not changed that a bit.

The Socialists, of all flavors, have raised the art of mass murder to a science. There has not been so many deaths in so short a time since the combined murder sprees of the muslims in south Asia and the Mongols in the Eurasian steppes in the 1200's. Even back then the absolute numbers were smaller.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:57 Comments || Top||

#29  He was raised by hard socialist parents
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 18:59 Comments || Top||

#30  LOL - you asked for opinion and I gave you one that was completely in keeping with your statement.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/20/2008 18:59 Comments || Top||

#31  Javigum White4558 dear, socialism is defined as government ownership of the means of production. Functionally that means that those in power control... everything. It doesn't matter then whether their names are listed as owners, money flows into their pockets.

It's communism where nobody owns anything.

Barack Obama calls himself a Christian. But in the version in which he was baptized, Black Liberation Theology, Jesus is a sub-Saharan African rather than a Jew descended from David, king of the Israelites, and Caucasians are considered to be literally the children of the Devil. His Christianity is a little far from the mainstream. Which, it is true, is not a legal impediment to him becoming president of the United States of America. Nor is atheism.

Senator McCarthy caused those accused of being Communists to be deprived of their jobs. Common citizens, some of them actually citizens of (and resident in) another country identifying someone a socialist in conversation is not quite the same thing. Equating the two does demonstrate your ignorance of recent history, however.

You are the only one talking about Obama's father running, or not running, for president. Try to think before you type. Thank you.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/20/2008 19:02 Comments || Top||

#32  LOL - you asked for opinion and I gave you one that was completely in keeping with your statement.

That was not a statement: that was a snippet from the news followed by a question . . . . Thus the "?" question mark.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:04 Comments || Top||

#33  Even back then the absolute numbers were smaller.

Obviously, the population of this planet was smaller. Absolute numbers do not mean much. Got to speak in relative numbers: relative to the population of the country in question.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:10 Comments || Top||

#34 

And what is the basis for this opinion?
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:12 Comments || Top||

#35  "Obama is not just socialist, he's a Marxist"

This one.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#36  That was not a statement: that was a snippet from the news followed by a question . . . . Thus the "?" question mark.

BTW, McCane just asked Russia today to finance his election campain.
That is a statement. You lied.

What do you all have to say about that?
That was your question. Several people responded to your solicitation.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#37  So G_C, for those who are not as smart as you, care to describe 120,000,000 of anything? It doesn't have to the 120 million graves lined up end to end (that's enough to circle the globe six times). Try instead to describe the size of the omelet 120 million broken eggs would make.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:19 Comments || Top||

#38  I have counted one response and one - who knows what. Does this count as "several people responded" in your book?
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:20 Comments || Top||

#39  We could even name it the General_Comment Rooty Tooty Fresh & Fruity Kulak breakfast.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:22 Comments || Top||

#40  Responders: ed, Besoeker, Rex Mundi. That's 3 so far.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:24 Comments || Top||

#41  "Try instead to describe the size of the omelet 120 million broken eggs would make.

"broken eggs" What is this: Jurassic Park IV? ed, I am not into poetry, and I don't know how you have managed to come up with this number. Also, I do not care to defend socialism or whatever, again pointing out that it is not a religion, and does not necessarily replaces one. Also, I beg to draw at least some differences between national socialism of the Nazi part in 1930'-40's and socialism of USSR and then some socialist overtones of Northern Europe.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:26 Comments || Top||

#42  But you are quite, Javigum White455,8 that not all Muslims are anti-American. Some of them post here. Others are celebrated here. See this link, for example.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/20/2008 19:28 Comments || Top||

#43  Oh - so it's a snippet then? Where's the quotes? Where's a link back to original article? You offered it up as yer own statement and got served.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/20/2008 19:28 Comments || Top||

#44  "Besoeker, Rex Mundi
Besoeker has not responded to the "McCain question" but only offered a helpful passage on the state/church issue. Rex Mundi is an idiot, so his verbal vomit also does not qualify as a response (you may reread it to refresh your recollection). So, that leaves only one response - yours, ed.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:32 Comments || Top||

#45  "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs."
- Walter Duranty, British born Ny Times Reporter stationed in Moscow. Used to obfuscate and excuse reports of an engineered famine in the Ukraine.

Suggest you get yourself a deeper education.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:34 Comments || Top||

#46  "yer own"

Mundi, its "your own," "your own." Please have a shot of "Southern Comfort" or something. Shoot some ducks.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:34 Comments || Top||

#47  Wong again. By your criteria, I wasn't responding to anyone, just to some "verbal vomit" some mass murder excusing, ignorant fool left between bottles of vodka.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:37 Comments || Top||

#48  "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs."
- Walter Duranty, British born Ny Times Reporter stationed in Moscow. Used to obfuscate and excuse reports of an engineered famine in the Ukraine."


I am aware of the selective teaching of history in american high schools, ed. Teachers love poetical wordsmithing like that "broken eggs" coming from one of their beloved Brits: Oh, a reporter, a traitor. Should make a great history lesson. Maybe some kids will actially pay attention . . . .
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:39 Comments || Top||

#49  "Wong again. By your criteria, I wasn't responding to anyone, just to some "verbal vomit" some mass murder excusing, ignorant fool left between bottles of vodka."

No, you did repond to me on the McCain issue.

P.S. You've to got to slow sown typing, ed, it interferes with your thoughts.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:42 Comments || Top||

#50  A propagandist for Socialism, for Communism. for Lenin, for Stalin. Someone who could excuse the horrible starvation murder of 8,000,000 peasants by equating them with broken eggs needed to make the Socialist omelette. Yess, a traitor. A traitor to humanity. A traitor to the 8 million dead. Your hero.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:44 Comments || Top||

#51  Your quibble about my typing shows your desperation, your poverty of ideas, logic and argument.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:46 Comments || Top||

#52  Ed, you really have got to calm down. You've got sooo worked up over this. I've got to end this so that an ambulance won't get dispatched to your house. Bye now.

"The poverty of ideas" - I like it!
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:50 Comments || Top||

#53  Hey JW:

Your tactics may work on less savvy people, but here at rantburg, people are pretty well versed on the subject of politics.

There is NO RACE CARD here. No one here cares about the skin color of a political candidate. Duh.

But since you're new to rantburg (i.e. since you're a troll), you wouldn't know that, would you?

Obama's roots in Marxist-esque politics go way back, are consistent, and his views are included in his own books and in his community "organizing".

Black Lib Theology focuses on the Egyptian goddess Isis. Research it for yourself. Who knows what Obama believes.

What we do know is that he was backing some incredibly shady political campaigns in Kenya, has some very shady friends who help him buy houses, help him launch his political career, lies all of the time about all of it, and constructs myths about his family and background and aspirations.

This is not R-A-C-E. This is P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S.

So don't try to "shame" people here. No one is a racist, except perhaps Obama who said he wished "that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.” And he has attended a racist "church" for 20 years.

Hmm.

About the photo. As far as photojournalism goes, the photo looks REALLY posed, set up, arranged . . . It's more of a portrait, really. I'm not questioning the mom or son or service. What I'm questioning is the Left's use of it for their own purposes.

So, is Barak going to come out and say he's a Moslem, or is it more of the "it doesn't matter what Obama thinks, or is, or does--we shouldn't question him or we are mean-spirited and bigoted."


I mean, he's the one who said, "From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

And why was it again that we can't discuss this stuff, JW?



Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 19:52 Comments || Top||

#54  LOL...don't sweat it ed. Classic liberal superiority complex reaction. I love baiting 'em with it - works really well and it's fun too.

...now 'bout that JD. Yes'm GC, gonna drop that shot in corn jar of Pabst Blue Ribbon and grab my side-by-side.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/20/2008 19:53 Comments || Top||

#55  Oh, I'm sure Mr. Duranty is not a hero to General_Comment, ed.

General_Comment, all primary and secondary schools in every country teach everything selectively, based on the general conviction that most children of seven or twelve years are incapable of doctoral level study. The same holds true for most adults, to be sure.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/20/2008 19:53 Comments || Top||

#56  "Besoeker, Rex Mundi

G_C: Socialism is not a religion.

Besoeker: "Our National Socialist ideology is far loftier than the concepts of Christianity"

Rex Mundi: Socialism is what replaces religion, GC.

You really should thank God for the autonomic nervous system. I'm afraid in your brain dead state you could not breathe or circulate oxygen otherwise.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 19:55 Comments || Top||

#57  Traitor, Socialist parents, Marxist upbringing, a secret muslim, Child molester and Communist Party member since age 9, and terrorist?

How low. I don't think anyone believe any of it.

I think the only reason these smears are being thrown out is to scare, to instigate, and to reassure egos.

Next everyone will be called a terrorist.

Blame yourself if McCain loses. You've scared off any moderates.
Posted by: Sheba Jeger8491 || 10/20/2008 19:59 Comments || Top||

#58  No one is a racist, except perhaps Obama who said he wished "that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged."

I had to laugh when I first read that. I don't think he quite realized what he just wrote about his white momma and absent African father.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 20:01 Comments || Top||

#59  "The same holds true for most adults, to be sure."

Could not have agreed with you more, TW, could not have agreed with you more.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 20:08 Comments || Top||

#60  ed, you must be an "engeeeeeneeer" since reading does not appear to be your strong suit.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 20:10 Comments || Top||

#61  Wow, GC, I thought YOU must be an "engeeeeeneeer", seeing how you are such a problem solver. What are you?
Posted by: Darrell || 10/20/2008 20:19 Comments || Top||

#62  Sheba Jeger8491, Obama in his book identified his friend and mentor "Frank" who introduced by Obama's hard socialist grandfather. Frank is Frank Marshall Davis of the Communist Party USA (Chicago, card #47544). Even the House Un-American Activities Committee, identified Frank Davis in several Communist front organizations, funded by AND doing, you know, the bidding of Moscow. Remind me, Sheba Jeger, what is it called you do the bidding of a hostile foreign power. A murderous one at that.

Obama's young adult mentor and boss was Saul Alinksy, another Communist.
He gave a wide ranging Playboy Magazine interview shortly before his death. In it he gives a detailed description of his 1930s life as a communist fellow-traveler.

Alinsky told Playboy, “I knew plenty of Communists in those days, and I worked with them on a number of projects. Back in the Thirties, the Communists did a hell of a lot of good work…. Anybody who tells you he was active in progressive causes in those days and never worked with the Reds is a goddamn liar. Their platform stood for all the right things, and unlike many liberals, they were willing to put their bodies on the line. Without the Communists, for example, I doubt the C.I.O. could have won all the battles it did. I was also sympathetic to Russia in those days, not because I admired Stalin or the Soviet system but because it seemed to be the only country willing to stand up to Hitler. I was in charge of a big part of fund raising for the International Brigade and in that capacity I worked in close alliance with the Communist Party.


The terrorist bomber and Weather Underground Commie Bill Ayers. Enough has been written. Do your own reading.

The racist Reverend Wright ("God DAMN America" and former muslim). Obama was a member in good standing for over 20 years in Wrights Black Liberation Theology church (a combination of Communist and black racial superiority ideologies).

So Sheba Jeger8491, can you name the common thread binding all these key people in Barak Obama's upbringing, education, work and worship? Don't be shy.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 20:26 Comments || Top||

#63  You are out of arguments G_C. Your statements and accusations have been proven to be untrue and your character unworthy.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 20:30 Comments || Top||

#64  Sheba Jeger8491, re: Child molester
Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama
Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet (Frank Davis) was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10.
...
It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a h@rd-core p0rnographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene.

In a surviving portion of an autobiographical manuscript, Mr Davis confirms that he was the author of Sex Rebel: Black after a reader had noticed the “similarities in style and phraseology” between the p*rnographic work and his poetry.

“I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.” In the introduction to Sex Rebel, Mr Davis (writing as Greene) explains that although he has “changed names and identities…all incidents I have described have been taken from actual experiences”.

He stated that “under certain circumstances I am b!sexual” and that he was “ a voyeur and an exh!bitionist” who was “occasionally mildly interested in sad*-mas*chism”, adding: “I have often wished I had two pen!ses to enjoy simultaneously the double – but different – sensations of oral and gen!tal copulation.”

The book, which closely tracks Mr Davis’s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex.

One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her. “I’m not one to go in for L0litas. Usually I’d rather not bed a babe under 20.

“But there are exceptions. I didn’t want to disappoint the trusting child. At her still-impressionistic age, a rejection might be traumatic, could even cripple her sexually for life.”

He then described how he and his wife would have sex with the girl. “Anne came up many times the next several weeks, her aunt thinking she was in good hands. Actually she was.

“She obtained a course in practical sex from experienced and considerate practitioners rather than from ignorant insensitive neophytes….I think we did her a favour, although the pleasure was mutual.”

On other occasions, Mr Davis would cruise in Hawaii parks looking for couples or female tourists to have sex with. He derived sexual gratification from b0ndage, simulated r@pe and being flogged and ur!nated on.


Yeah a child molester, but so much more.

Excuse the word buthering, but there was so much material Fred's naughty filter rejected.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 20:48 Comments || Top||

#65  I urge you all to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology
You'll learn a lot about Obama.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/20/2008 20:50 Comments || Top||

#66  Sounds like he would fit right in in Pelosi's neck of the woods Ed.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 21:31 Comments || Top||

#67  Guess the two don't want to play anymore. And I was having so much fun wielding the caning stick.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 21:37 Comments || Top||

#68  "You are out of arguments G_C. Your statements and accusations have been proven to be untrue and your character unworthy."

(i) This is a self-serving and conclusory statement;
(ii) "character unworthy????" - what are you a f-king boyscout?;
(iii) McCane is a stiff and unlikable - that's the reason why he will lose. While I don't care much about their proposed policies one way or the other, at least Obama is more sympathetic and does not appear to be a hater of Russia.

to be continued . . . .
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 21:50 Comments || Top||

#69  Actually, General_Comment, we think highly of engineers around here. While they tend not to write poetry -- although Mr. Wife has written me some charming doggerel -- they think clearly and logically, and cut straight through the nonsense to get to the point... then find a solution if one can be made or built.

I know practicing engineers who are paint well enough to be starving artists, engineers who are semi-professional concert musicians, and engineers who write more clearly than I do, although I was a published poet in the dim, dark past.

What? Yes, Mr. Wife is an engineer. Why do you ask? ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/20/2008 21:50 Comments || Top||

#70  Hey GC --- I'm still waiting for an answer to how you know that Sarah's briefings are written.. granted, some of them are, but some are also vocal...

What's your security clearance? It must be extremely high for you to know.... "Sarah misplaced her reading glasses..."

Must really be interesting to be present when such things happen... how else would you know, reading glasses have been replaced?

Bet that could really be turned into a funny SNL skit... you ought to contact Al Franken.... maybe he could get it written into the script for you....

Cute retort over there on that thread.... but that is all it was.... a cute retort.....

Your security clearance is at what level, to witness this, "misplacing her reading glasses."
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 22:00 Comments || Top||

#71  Fact G_C. You make a stupid statements that are refuted by your own postings, see #56. Then you refuse to acknowledge it. Fact. That is unworthy of anyone's character, even for a vodka soaked commie symp like you.

One reason McCain is stiff is the 5 years of REAL torture in the hands communists left him crippled. He has first hand experience with the type of people you and Obama wish to be. McCain doesn't have to be a hater. The Russians did far more damage to Communism and other Russians than a 1000 McCains could ever hope to do. What is it now, 140M population and declining 700K each and every year?

Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 22:02 Comments || Top||

#72  "they think clearly and logically, and cut straight through the nonsense to get to the point... then find a solution if one can be made or built."

I gather you would think highly of the engineers. I'd like to note though that most of the all important things cannot be "made or built." In life, "nonsense" is life. Cutting through "nonsense" gets you conclusory and ultimately wrong results. That's why engineers are so horrible outside of their own thing. As to the examples of extracurricular activities - all of us are amateurs at something . . . .
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 22:23 Comments || Top||

#73  The show-biz libs:

McCane is a stiff and unlikable - that's the reason why he will lose

cute on the Mc-CANE

not

yawn

GC, aka Soros spawn, you also could say McSame, and McCain is old as dirt

no arguments of substance, GC

just empty rhetoric

like your master

Lord Emporer Obama

(otherwise known as "Zero" for obvious reasons)

Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 22:46 Comments || Top||

#74  The show-biz libs:
McCane is a stiff and unlikable - that's the reason why he will lose.


That's right, ex-lib. He is no Reagan. McCane will lose precisely because of it, and nothing else. Deep down you know it too. And you wish McCane would be more than he is. But he is not. Whatever the causes of it, the tortures in Vietnam, the paralysis of left cheek, or a senile dementia: it does not matter. He cannot invoke a positive and lasting reaction. While this may not be important to you (or some other Michigan Militia conspiracy theorists), you are not the only one who gets to vote. And for some the factors you hold near and dear may seem to be less important.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:19 Comments || Top||

#75  Fact G_C. You make a stupid statements that are refuted by your own postings, see #56.

Posting # 56 reads only on the socialism/religion issue, and not a word about McCane. The posting does not support your stupid statement, ed.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:26 Comments || Top||

#76  GC -- I'm chasing you --- I want to know how you knew that Sarah "misplaced her reading glasses" and couldn't read the briefings?

Or, were they vocal? You inside of Sarah's HQ's? WOW -- some security clearance you must have. What other secrets of Sarah are you willing to share?

Let's see.... reading glasses.... daily briefs.... forget that Secret Service guy over there...

I'm willing to bet, in an ordinary world, you could probably get a higher security clearance than our own Mr. Obama......
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 23:26 Comments || Top||

#77  If McCain is so _bad_ then why is he within spitting distance of the Godking wannabe Obama - even on a democratic slanted poll?

If he was as terrible as you say the Godking should be 25-45 points ahead.

Or is Obama more of a Zero?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 23:28 Comments || Top||

#78  Oh, I forgot -- that was really a "cute" retort (misplaced glasses) over there in that thread.... fast.... you trying out as a writer for SNL?
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 23:28 Comments || Top||

#79  Sherry, calm down. No person would reveal his/her security clearance on a fun blog like this.

Moving on . . . . From the open sources, such as several TV appearances of Mrs. Northern Exposure it is apparent that she is dumb as a brick - especially on issues of foreign policy. Even you guys were bitching about her apparent lack of acumen, to put it mildly, the other day. Now, I have not stood with a candle at night looking over Mrs. Lipstick Beauty's bed readings, but her spoken words are a vivid testament that whatever she have read, she probably had not understood.


P.S. The Russian Tea Room in midtown is serving "Baked Alaska" in tune with the times.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:36 Comments || Top||

#80  If McCain is so _bad_ then why is he within spitting distance of the Godking wannabe Obama - even on a democratic slanted poll?

That is an easy one. One thing about people. If you take any poll on ANY issue, e.g whether the thing is black or white, there will be about 10 % of people who will either confuse them or will state "no opinion." That's the base level of stupidity. Now, granted, that it could be applicable to both candidates. However, when you apply this "fact of life" to politics, the baseline level increases to about 30%-40%. That's why the poll numbers are so close. Here in America we call it "democracy." And we are very proud of it.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:42 Comments || Top||

#81  fast.... you trying out as a writer for SNL?

SNL? No. Somebody has to do the unglamorous job of defending the totalitarian Putin regime.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 23:53 Comments || Top||

#82  General_Comment
This engineer has a few beefs with your sick sorry ass.
If this were the old and honorable days of yore I would demand that you and your second show up at dawn for a dual to the death over your elitists insults toward engineers who build what works in this world. But, alas, it is the age of no honor. None, as we see in your low rent rants and slimy demeanor. With the left now (as you so beautifully demonstrate) dementia and raving are the end all to a meaningless existence. One in which everything decent must be destroyed.

As to the left.... this person, who matriculated in one of the far left's great 60s-79s educational experiments thinks you are totally full of shit.

Oh, and socialism and communism are classified by many as religions...
After all what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine defines them in the end.


Posted by: 3dc || 10/20/2008 23:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Biden predicts "international crisis" if Obama wins
Jennifer Rubin, Commentary

On the very same day he told us that Colin Powell should have ended all questions about Barack Obama's national security bona fides, Joe Biden comes along to tell us precisely why we should be scared of Obama as commander-in-chief:

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right.
So, when, say, Tel Aviv or Stuttgart or Seattle disappears under a mushroom cloud, or the Ukraine gets overrun by Russian armor, or Chavez announces he has nukes, we're all supposed to rally 'round Obama as he goes to the U.N. Security Council to submit a strongly-worded resolution. Why have I a funny feeling that if I criticize Obama in these circumstances, the same people who have been telling me for seven years that "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" will suddenly start questioning my patriotism? Am I just paranoid?
Well, golly, if Obama is so untested that we will have a series of international crises -- at the very time we are in a financial meltdown -- which will make the Cuban Missille Crisis look like a walk in the park, shouldn't we vote for the other guy who will keep all the miscreants in their place? Now, maybe we should rest easy because, according to Biden, "I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you." (Maybe Hezbollah's occupation of Lebanaon was one of the things he forgot.)

Something tells me this is material for an ad that's a lot more credible than Hillary Clinton's "3 a.m." ad. That one came from his arguably frantic opponent--this one is from his running mate.
Posted by: Mike || 10/20/2008 13:51 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So Joe, it'll be an international crisis if he wins? That's the first thing you've said that makes any sense.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 14:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Good one, Joe.

The folks over at Ace, be cause he said this, are theorizing that a "manufactured crisis" with a pre-determined/pre-positioned massive response by the One (Theatre, folks. Theatre) could be in the offing.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/20/2008 14:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Biden's loose lips will sink us all. If Obama wins, Israel will launch its long-expected attack on Iran's nukes during the window between election day and inauguration day. Thanks Joe for confirming this for our enemies.
Posted by: Woozle Unusosing8053 || 10/20/2008 15:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Isreal better be. That dement (I am referring to Obama) would order the Air Force to shoot the israeli planes.
Posted by: JFM || 10/20/2008 16:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, it's obvious that Joe ALREADY knows what they will orchestrate:

"Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy . . . " and "We're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right . . ."

Well I feel like vomiting from nerves.

WHAT, do you suppose, are they (meaning the Obama camp in conjunction with whoever) going to come up with? WHY is Joe ALREADY saying "It's not going to be apparent that we're right?"

Well, why wouldn't be apparent? See, they've already run this thing down, and Joe is nervous that it's going to look bad.

Unreal.


Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 17:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh yeah, and "Mark my words . . ." it's GOING TO HAPPEN, kind of gives it away too.

It would be bad enough if it was actual, worse since they're inventing it.
Posted by: ex-lib || 10/20/2008 17:06 Comments || Top||

#7  I wonder if this SOB has been talking to DinnerJacket and is thinking about setting up a "No Fly/No Missile Zone" between IS and Iran.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 17:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Of course there will be a International Crisis. It will come right after the massive domestic crisis as the new dhimocrat administration tries to take all our rights away.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/20/2008 17:21 Comments || Top||

#9  Of course there will be a International Crisis

"We have always been at war with Eastasia...."
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/20/2008 17:33 Comments || Top||

#10  I wonder if this SOB has been talking to DinnerJacket and is thinking about setting up a "No Fly/No Missile Zone" between IS and Iran.

Didn't a bunch of representatives from Zero meet with DinnerJacket the last time he was here. When Palin was first invited and then dis-invited to a protest.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 18:13 Comments || Top||

#11  These candidates are already receiving briefs from intelligence, State, etc.

Really makes one wonder, just what was in one of those brieings that Joe knows about, and just couldn't keep to himself?

Security clearance, anyone? I'll bet Sarah has a better security clearance rating than Biden, she is C-I-C of the the only state National Guard that is full time -- and has Russia doing drive-bys when they feel the urge.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#12  "she is C-I-C of the the only state National Guard that is full time -- and has Russia doing drive-bys when they feel the urge." And "secret briefings"

You forgot to mention if she ever bothered to read them. Guess, keeps forgeting those other reading glasses . . . .

Posted by: General_Comment || 10/20/2008 19:17 Comments || Top||

#13  General_Comment -- so you know, the briefings are in written form, and not delivered vocally?

You know, they do get delivered both ways...

You have some kind of inside track into Sarah's briefings?

If so, what is your security level to participate in them? Also, since you seem to be so knowledgeable about the briefings, how often are they happening?
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 19:22 Comments || Top||

#14  Can it, GC. Go back to your idiotic thread with ed.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/20/2008 19:23 Comments || Top||

#15  Wonder who the next person with a health problem in the Biden clan will be? They'll have the 18 day virus. heh

Is Joe the Kleagle saying that bho gets dissed, we get all out war? Five different places? Shades of JFK. Stock in shotguns, toilet paper and canned goods sky rocketed after that comment. heh
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 10/20/2008 19:42 Comments || Top||

#16  Well, Mr. General_Comment, I'm still waiting for your answer about Sarah's briefings..

Course it could be, you are just so busy attending to the briefings, that you just don't have time to respond.

Written or verbal? Your call.... me? I don't think you really know.... priding yourself on your quick come-back about the reading glasses?

I'll admit, it was cute.... cute enough to drive you back into Lurkland when a request for facts backing the allegation was put forth.

Come on...... I'm waiting for pages and pages of "proof" from you.... of, Sarah didn't read, cause she "misplaced" her reading glasses.

Waitin'..... waitin'..... waitin'...... kinda quiet in here...

Oh well, I got PIP.... I can do Heroes and ESPN football at the same time!
Posted by: Sherry || 10/20/2008 21:27 Comments || Top||

#17  GC is a lying, trolling Russophile who contributes nothing to the conversation here and who deserves to be banned. I gather that he's still got a bit left to travel before he gets into Arisland but he's moving there fast.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 10/20/2008 22:40 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan risks losing orbital slot if satellite not launched
KARACHI, Oct 19: The Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) is at present focusing on launching a communication satellite, a target that the organisation says will be achieved by 2011.

“As of now, Suparco’s priority is to launch a communication satellite to retain our geostationary orbital slot in space,” said Arshad Siraj, secretary of Suparco, adding that given the number of channels that have cropped up in the country, it is all the more important to make such a satellite a priority.

Allocated by the International Telecommunications Union, there are 360 geostationary orbital slots in space, of which 320 are already in use by various countries, and there is a waiting list of several countries for the remaining slots.

For Pakistan, retaining the slot is vital as it has already lost four chances. It was only able to do so on the fifth and final call when, in late 2002, it leased the US’ HG3 – originally launched as Indonesia’s Palapa C1 and later sold to Turkey – and renamed it Paksat 1.

The satellite was relocated from Turkey’s orbital slot to Pakistan’s. According to Mr Siraj, if the country fails to launch a satellite by the deadline, it will forfeit its orbital slot in space for good.

Pakistan has so far sent only two indigenously built satellites into space: Badar-I and Badar-II in 1990 from China, and a Russian Zenit-2 rocket in 2001 from Kazakhstan. Pakistan does not have its own satellite launch vehicle (SLV), although there has been much talk about it for a few years now. In a news report in 2001, for example, Dr A.Q. Khan had stated that Pakistan was in the process of building a low-cost, light-weight SLV, a plan that faded into oblivion.

Given this scenario, the future of Pakistan’s launch vehicle programme remains quite bleak, particularly when Suparco’s second priority happens to be remote sensory satellites rather than SLVs. Apart from the obvious question of funding, which Suparco lacks, some also question the country’s capability to build and maintain an SLV.

“SLVs involve complex technology and are beyond what Pakistan can do on its own,” said noted physicist Pervez Hoodbhoy. “Of course, the world is now seeing the spread of advanced missile technology because of modularised components, and so even countries like North Korea can make missiles that can cross continents.”

Mr Hoodbhoy said if the SLV design and components are given to Pakistan, it will be able to construct one, but to manufacture something from its own engineering and technical resources seems impossible.

He said that given the other more pressing needs of the time – electricity, for example – there is no justification to spend the scarce funds on space programmes like SLV. According to him, the country may continue to launch its satellites from other countries on a commercial basis when the need arises.

However, Shahid Qureshi, head of the Institute of Space and Planetary Astrophysics, Karachi University, said that Pakistan has the basic technology to build an SLV.

“If we can launch a missile up to a range of 1,500km, why not build an SLV that can launch low-atmosphere satellites?” he said. According to Mr Qureshi, we can begin by launching navigation, spy and weather satellites, which can go up to 150km into space.

“This alone can give us a lot of data that we need to buy now.”
Posted by: john frum || 10/20/2008 17:14 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr Hoodbhoy said if the SLV design and components are given to Pakistan, it will be able to construct one, but to manufacture something from its own engineering and technical resources seems impossible.

The same applied to nuclear weapons and their delivery systems.

Neither Pakistan nor North Korea has yet manufactured a tractor, or a high speed lathe.

Without extensive Chinese help, in violation of the Non Proliferation Treaty, neither country would be nuclear armed.
Posted by: john frum || 10/20/2008 17:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm confused. Pakistan is due to go broke in two months or so, they are in the midst of a food shortage, and they want to spend money and effort to develop spy satellites? Perhaps if their physicists were not concerned with calculating the power and velocity of djinns at the moment of observation, I would be more sanguine that it was not a total waste of too-scarce resources.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/20/2008 18:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Pakistan was meant to the dominant power on he Indian subcontinent. India was supposed to break up into many pieces with Pakistan, and it army, ruling the roost.

In the words of Ayaz Amir, the purpose of Pakistan was for Indian muslims to relive the days of their lost glory.

Pakistan must therefore be the equal, if not the better of India. If not, the very creation of Pakistan was for nothing.

Tomorrow an Indian rocket will attempt to launch a probe into lunar orbit. With Pakistan unable to even launch a microsatellite into earth orbit, this will be the cause of great anguish in Pakistan.
Posted by: john frum || 10/20/2008 18:15 Comments || Top||

#4  DirectTV, sooth the savage breast.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 10/20/2008 19:31 Comments || Top||


Pirzada escapes beating from lawyers
Legal expert Sharifuddin Pirzada escaped a beating by lawyers at the Benazir Bhutto Airport in Islamabad on Sunday. A number of lawyers were present at the airport to receive sacked chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhary, who was returning to Islamabad after visiting Karachi and Hyderabad. Upon receiving information that Pirzada was also present at the airport, a group of lawyers surrounded him and attempted to beat him. However, airport security officials immediately intervened to rescue Pirzada and escorted him out of the crowd. No complaint was lodged with the Airport Police Station.
Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  What the hell? Could somebody unpack this a bit? Who's Pirzada, and why are "lawyers" acting like something out of a road production of West Side Story?

As far as I can tell, this is roughly equivalent to a passel of Federalist Society members greeting Bob Bork at an airport terminal and attempting to beat the crap out of Lawrence Tribe when he unexpectedly crossed their path. Or possibly vice-versa with whatever the hell's the lefty equivalent of the Federalist Society. The ABA?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 10/20/2008 9:58 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
France rallies around head of IMF as alleged office affair investigated
I recall the furor when the news came out last year that World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz had his girlfriend on the payroll. This tidbit came out in the WSJ but I haven't seen it in any other American newspaper so far. Wonder why?
France's political elite yesterday rallied around Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the head of the International Monetary Fund, after it emerged that the former finance minister was facing an inquiry into whether he abused his position by having a sexual relationship with a subordinate.

Strauss-Kahn was defended by President Nicolas Sarkozy's rightwing UMP party, which put him forward for the prestigious IMF appointment, as well as many of his fellow Socialists, several of whom consider him to be a potential future presidential candidate. "Everyone accepts that he is a good chief of the IMF," said François Hollande, first secretary of the leftwing PS party. Speaking on French radio, the cabinet spokesman, Luc Chatel, stressed Strauss-Kahn's solid handling of the financial crisis. "He has shown throughout that he was on top of things," he said.

Details of the affair, which was first reported at the weekend by the Wall Street Journal, provoked anger and suspicion in France, a country with clear media privacy laws. Many commentators questioned the timing of the leaks, amid a global financial crisis in which the IMF plays a key role.

Others suggested the investigation, which was reportedly ordered by the head of the IMF's 24-member board with help from the US and Russia, was leaked deliberately to "destabilise" him. One close ally, Jean-Marie Le Guen, pointed out that his unashamed support of tight market regulation had not been popular with some across the Atlantic.

The IMF said on Saturday it was looking into claims that Strauss-Kahn - or 'DSK' as he is known affectionately in France - was guilty of "improper behaviour" for having a brief affair with a married senior official- a charge he denies. According to the WSJ, part of the investigation will focus on whether Piroska Nagy, who worked in the fund's Africa department, received an excessive payoff when she left her position, six months after the "incident" is said to have taken place. Her lawyer denies this.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "He has shown throughout that he was on top of things,"

I think that was the problem.
Posted by: charger || 10/20/2008 11:54 Comments || Top||


Iraq
US warship 'catches fire in Persian Gulf'
Consider the source, but thought I'd post none the less...
A vessel belonging to the US Navy has reportedly caught fire in the northern Persian Gulf near the Iraqi port cities of Al-Bakr and al-Amaya.

Informed military sources said on Monday that the UN Navy had secretly moved the vessel to the coasts of Kuwait after the fire broke out, Iran's Arabic-language TV channel Al-Alam reported. The sources did not rule out the possibility that a blast had started the fire on the vessel that was said to be "one of the four US warships in the region," the report added.

The US military has not yet commented on the report.

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 10/20/2008 13:58 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did a coal fired boiler explode?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 14:38 Comments || Top||

#2  "US Navy" or "UN Navy"? Don't think PRESS TV really knows the difference.

I'd expect 'coal fired boilers' in the UN version, though.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/20/2008 15:28 Comments || Top||

#3  "Remember the Whatever!"
Posted by: mrp || 10/20/2008 17:04 Comments || Top||

#4  The sources did not rule out the possibility that a blast had started the fire on the vessel that was said to be "one of the four US warships in the region," the report added.

I'll bet the same sources did not rule out the possibility the fire was actually a reflection caused by the desert sun glinting off the leprechauns pot-o-gold, which was being unloaded by crane for delivery to the zionist paymasters secret offices in downtown Umm O'Qasr, or something like that.
Posted by: Don Vito Omeling5062 || 10/20/2008 20:35 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Army chief calls on Thai leader to quit
BANGKOK: Bangkok was on edge this weekend after the army chief told the prime minister on nationwide television that he must resign and the prime minister - in office for just a month - said he was too busy to step down.

The demand by the army chief, General Anupong Paochinda, came Thursday, when he blamed the government for a violent crackdown on protesters and said, "You cannot be above the pools of blood."

His words raised worries of a military coup. But Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat brushed them aside, saying he still had a job to do, and turned his attention to Thailand's other, simultaneous crisis, the threat of a border war with Cambodia.

Pressure has been growing in Thailand since protesters barricaded the prime minister's office nearly two months ago, forcing the government to conduct its business in Bangkok's former international airport.
Either the military is going to let the government work, in case the protesters can't obstruct business, or the military and the protesters are in league ...

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Posted by: Steve White || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


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Europe paying price of US econ crisis
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says European countries are paying a high price for Washington's lamentable state of affairs. "The economic crisis gripping European markets and financial institutions is a heavy price to pay for Washington's politically-driven moves," said President Ahmadinejad on Sunday. "Over the past 60 years, Europe has born the burden of Washington's failed policies and financial recklessness," he added.

The Iranian President said that European countries should not allow their financial institutions to be devised, led and co-coordinated by the US Government.

Washington's financial meltdown has entered the worst phase since the Great Depression in 1920s, taking down global financial institutions and triggering a series of bankruptcies, forced mergers and radical government interventions such as an unprecedented USD 700-billion financial bailout plan.

European politicians and economists have criticized Washington's dithering incompetence in handling the financial turmoil. "This problem started in America with irresponsible actions and lending by some institutions. The global financial market has ceased to function," said British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on October 8. "The turmoil that we are facing has originated in the United States. It has become a global problem. The United States has a special responsibility in this situation," EU Commission spokesman Johannes Laitenberger said on October 1. "More than anything, the finance market is an American problem, The US is the source of the crisis and it is the focus of the crisis," said German Finance Minister Peer Steinbruck on September 26.
Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  There are other European opinions. This from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard 19 Oct:
" I suspect that Bundesbank chief Axel Weber and German finance minister Peer Steinbruck were quite simply too arrogant to listen to anybody.

Mr Steinbruck insisted that “German banks are far less vulnerable than US banks” just days before the collapse of [German lender]Hypo Real with €400bn (£311bn) of liabilities. Had he not read the IMF reports showing that German and European lenders have an even thinner Tier 1 capital base than American banks? "
Then there was this interchange between Der Spiegel & Steinbruck 29 Sept:
"SPIEGEL: And what about the fact that KfW [Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau, a bank owned by the German government] just happened to transfer €319 million ($463 million) to Lehman Brothers, the US investment bank that declared bankruptcy that very same day? This sort of thing doesn't exactly create confidence in state-owned banks.

Steinbrück: That was an awful mistake, of course. A grotesque error. But it was a mistake made by bank executives, not the administrative board, which includes politicians among its members.

SPIEGEL: It proves that normal risk management procedures failed completely -- directly under the nose of the finance minister.

Steinbrück: No, it proves that an inexcusably wrong decision was made. Do you think I wasn't livid about this? The entire crisis we are talking about here is incomprehensible for the normal citizen. But such an idiotic transfer -- even my 89-year-old mother is outraged about it. All 80 million German citizens understand this…

SPIEGEL: …and suddenly you had the tabloid Bild calling the KfW "Germany's stupidest bank."

Steinbrück: Okay, okay. But it's also worth noting that KfW passed all tests and checks regarding its risk management procedures that were performed by the federal audit court and auditors last year. Of course, I know that the bottom line is that what happened was completely ridiculous."
It's not just in the USA that politicians can always find someone else to blame.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 3:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Source for Der Spiegel interview with Steinbruck
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 3:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Which all gets back to the very inconvenient truth that Euro stasis socialist economic policies drove their capital into American speculative markets to get a return on their investments.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/20/2008 8:20 Comments || Top||

#4  And how are you doing, Mahmoud? It appears...not too good.

As markets floundered amid the credit crunch, Iran's leadership celebrated the West's economic crisis. On Oct. 11, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared, "The claim that the free market manages all things is a huge lie and benefits only thieves and criminals." Two days later, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei decreed that the West's financial crisis was a sign of "the ineffectiveness of liberal democracy-based policies."

The Iranian leadership may rue their words. Ahmadinejad has run Iran's economy into the ground. On Oct. 11, just a day after Ahmadinejad declared prices in decline, the Central Bank reported inflation above 30%. Such figures are still likely low. Both Shahab News and Aftab-e Yazd have noted the tendency of Iranian officials to pull numbers from thin air.

Non-oil sector production is stagnant. Factories may remain open but many do not pay workers. On Oct. 2, for example, tire factory workers staged a protest in front of the Ministry of Labor seeking six months' unpaid wages. In recent weeks, wildcat strikes have occurred in Tehran, Isfahan, Qazvin and Sanandaj. Purchasing power has plummeted.

To mitigate such trends, the government has imposed price controls. On June 11, the daily Resalat reported that the paramilitary Basij, a subdivision of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, would enforce low prices. Over subsequent days, the Iranian press featured photos of Basij beating merchants whose prices were too high.

The combination of high liquidity, sparked by Ahmadinejad's arbitrary decree lowering interest rates to single digits, no-interest banking and inflation has led wealthy Iranians to pour money into real estate. Housing costs have skyrocketed; Tehran real estate prices rival New York's. The average Iranian family now pays 60% of its income for rent, while the Ministry of Housing estimates 1.5 million Iranians are homeless.

To fight economic malaise, Ahmadinejad has raided Iran's foreign reserves. In the past two months alone, Iranian papers have reported more than $15 billion in withdrawals from the reserves to import refined gas and several additional billion dollars to subsidize industrial schemes. Ahmadinejad's reinstatement of subsidies has meant Iran once again must import 40% of its refined petroleum needs.

He will need to continue spending. Last winter, Iran ran out of gas. Food prices more than doubled and the Revolutionary Guards had to deploy on the streets of towns and cities to keep order. On Oct. 1, the Parliament's Energy Commission predicted another "severe gas shortage" again within months.

As oil prices plummet, Iranian pessimism grows. In 2006, Tehran planned its budget assuming an oil price of $60/barrel. High oil prices masked Ahmadinejad's incompetence. While Iran's budgetary process has grown more opaque, it appears that Ahmadinejad constructed his budget with the assumption of oil price stability. Now that oil has plummeted, the Islamic Republic is in trouble.

On Oct. 7, Asr-e Iran asked, "How much did we save from the period when oil price was up to $130 per barrel? Did we build up a foreign exchange reserve? The authorities don't provide us with a clear and official answer about the foreign currency reserve…and there is some fear that the entire reserve has gone to imports of junk." The paper's fear is justified.

While Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait now boast Sovereign Wealth Funds worth hundreds of billions of dollars, on Sept. 15 an unreleased Central Bank report leaked by an Iranian parliamentarian estimated the Islamic Republic's own future fund to be only $7 billion.

Iran's strategic challenge and nuclear ambitions will be the most immediate foreign policy challenge facing the new administration. The National Iranian American Council, Tehran's de facto lobby in Washington, urges a relaxation of sanctions. So too does the Council on Foreign Relations. Condoleezza Rice offers a defiant Tehran financial incentives.

Such strategies are wrong. Throwing an economic lifeline to a terror-sponsoring regime dedicated to the acquisition of nuclear weapons capability would be nothing short of diplomatic malpractice on a Carter-esque scale. Not only has the Islamic Republic squandered billions on nuclear weapons, destabilizing Iraq and Afghanistan, and sponsoring terrorism, but it has also pitched itself to countries like Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Sudan and Senegal as a pillar of an ideology that will defeat liberal Western democracy. Nothing would be a more powerful signal to those applauding Ahmadinejad's rhetoric than watching the Islamic Republic collapse under the weight of its own follies.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 16:47 Comments || Top||

#5  tu3031, that's what really worries me about Iran's nuclear weapons program. They just might initiate a war just to keep from collapsing. There's nothing like a war with Isreal to unify a muslim country.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/20/2008 18:09 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Cisneros- “I’ve been waiting for someone to put all the blame at my doorstep,”
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/20/2008 11:49 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Looks like some of it belongs there, Henry.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/20/2008 12:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Henry? Some advice? If they ain't askin, don't tell em.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 12:59 Comments || Top||

#3  “The country is paying for that, and families are hurt because we as a society did not draw a line.”

OK, Bozo, was not the idea that lines were to be erased part of your "everybody has a right to a home." mantra????
Posted by: Elmavising Grundy6423 || 10/20/2008 14:02 Comments || Top||

#4  We enabled you.
Posted by: newc || 10/20/2008 22:23 Comments || Top||


Ten Percent Of $700 Billion Bailout Could Go To Bonuses (GS)(C)(MS)
H/T Michelle Malkin
No matter how badly the economy is doing and what shareholders in American financial firms have lost, it would be a shame to see investment bankers go without their bonuses.

According to The London Observer, "Financial workers at Wall Street's top banks are to receive pay deals worth more than $70bn (£40bn), a substantial proportion of which is expected to be paid in discretionary bonuses, for their work so far this year - despite plunging the global financial system into its worst crisis since the 1929 stock market crash, the Guardian has learned. Staff at six banks including Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are in line to pick up the payouts despite being the beneficiaries of a $700bn bailout from the US government that has already prompted criticism."

The news for Morgan Stanley workers is even better.

"At one point last week the Morgan Stanley $10.7bn pay pot for the year to date was greater than the entire stock market value of the business. In effect, staff, on receiving their remuneration, could club together and buy the bank."
I am speechless.....
That'll make folks vote Democratic, even though most of these firms are run by and contribute to Democrats ...
Hell, that'll make me vote Democrat. In fact, if my party lets something that evil happen, I'll get a job mining the obituaries for ACORN, turn my gun over to one of B.O.'s bodyguards for safe keeping, and make my wife get an (unneeded) abortion. The phrase "Malefactors of Great Wealth" pops to mind, and I want no part of it.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/20/2008 11:52 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Expect more of this as the absolute corruption and graft comes to light as the taxpayers are being forced to pay for it.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/20/2008 12:21 Comments || Top||

#2  The Bonus Tax? Maybe this is why Bernacke is requesting yet another bailout package.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/20/2008 12:28 Comments || Top||

#3  If these idiots take it, they better find a country without a extradition treaty.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/20/2008 13:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Couldn't be thought any worse of if they'd tried so they might as well grab everything while the getting is good.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/20/2008 17:43 Comments || Top||


Poll: Sole bailout beneficiary, Wall Street
The $700 billion rescue plan for the US financial system is only aims to protect the interests of Wall Street titans, a poll suggests. Sixty-nine percent of some 8,672 respondents to an online Press TV poll said the Bush administration's bailout plan would prove unsuccessful, as it is a fundamentally flawed measure aimed at serving the financial interests of Wall Street giants.

The poll indicates that a mere 7.7 percent believe that the bailout plan would help prop up the US financial system. Some 23 percent, however, maintain that the American capitalism is on the ropes, adding that no financial plan could rescue the US economy.

Earlier in October, the US Congress adopted a massive bailout package to address the financial tsunami, in a move believed to be the most expensive government financial intervention in history.

"The government Intervention is not a government takeover," President George W. Bush said on Friday.

Uncertainty over the efficiency of the program, however, has caused wild gyrations on US stock markets as fears are running high that the plan would set the stage for a wider financial crisis.
Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, that's another way to skew the poll - online respondents. I didn't get a chance to express myself.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/20/2008 6:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I am not one of those people who are angry about the "bailout". But from what I hear from the GOP politico types, the anger in the heartland is palpable. It is too bad that people in the heartland don't realize that most "Wall Street" types are Democrats and big Dem party donors, especially in the elite investment banking firms.
Posted by: Ulusoling Hatfield4645 || 10/20/2008 8:15 Comments || Top||


World leaders prepare for summits on finance reform
World leaders lined up a series of summits on reforming global finance as South Korea on Sunday became the latest country to shore up troubled banks. The summits, announced following talks between US President George W. Bush and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, are the latest fruit of efforts to coordinate an international response to the crisis.
Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh joy.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/20/2008 9:37 Comments || Top||

#2  No amount of new regulations, agreements, or programs are going to help if you choose to ignore them just as you did the last set that contributed to the present fiasco. Put together a fool proof system and the pols will just find better fools.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/20/2008 11:52 Comments || Top||



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