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Africa Horn
Reactions to the fall of Mogadishu
An Islamic militia accused of having ties to al Qaeda claims it has seized control of Somalia's capital Mogadishu after some of the worst fighting seen since the government collapsed in 1991.

The Islamic Courts Union, which supports the establishment of Islamic law in Somalia, said on Monday it had pushed an alliance of secular warlords out of nearly all of Mogadishu. This move poses a direct challenge to a fledging U.N.-backed government.

Oways Osman, a reporter for Somalia's Shabelle Radio, told CNN that the Islamic militia controlled "88 percent, if not 99 percent" of the Somali capital.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:31 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Giggedy, giggedy. Oh yeah
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:20 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Bangladesh seeks nuke help from China
Bangladesh yesterday sought Chinese technical assistance for peaceful use of nuclear energy in power generation.

Foreign Minister Morshed Khan, now on a three-day official visit to China, asked for the technical support during a meeting with State Councillor Tang Jiaxuan in Beijing. Tang is one of the nine members of the State Council, the highest policy-making body of the Chinese government.

Dhaka and Beijing signed an agreement on peaceful use of nuclear energy during Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's visit to Dhaka in April last year.

During the meeting, Morshed also requested for specific Chinese assistance in infrastructure development and power generation in Bangladesh, Director General of External Publicity (DGEP) Zahirul Huq told the news agency quoting Bangladesh mission officials in Beijing.

The two leaders expressed deep satisfaction at the close and friendly relations existing between Bangladesh and China. They stressed the need for strengthening the relations through continued dialogue and cooperation.

The foreign minister, who will hold official talks with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing today, said he will discuss the entire gamut of bilateral relations and identify possible ways of further accelerating cooperation in different sectors.

Tang praised Bangladesh government for attaining socioeconomic development, combating terrorism and corruption, alleviating poverty and enhancing food production.

He assured that China would continue to remain a "reliable partner" in Bangladesh's national development efforts.

Tang said the Chinese government would like to reduce trade imbalance between the two countries. He appreciated Bangladesh's support to " One China" policy and briefed Morshed Khan about steps being taken by the Chinese government towards reunification with Taiwan.

He also thanked Bangladesh as the current Saarc chair for facilitating China's entry into the forum as observer.

The two leaders exchanged views on a number of multilateral and international issues. They reaffirmed the need for maintaining close cooperation with each other on issues of mutual interest, including UN reforms.
Posted by: john || 06/06/2006 19:56 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meanwhile, the large gas reserves in Bangladesh remain untapped due to reluctance to sell it to the primary regional customer - India.

UNOCAL left in disgust and frustration.

Bangladesh politicians would rather forgo the revenue stream. They prefer to leave the gas in the ground than sell it to India.
Posted by: john || 06/06/2006 20:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Bangladesh is underwater most of the monsoon season. It is not a good place for a reactor.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 20:14 Comments || Top||

#3  plenty of coolant water :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 06/06/2006 20:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Wonder what arsenic in the cooling water does to the nuclear reaction?

All kidding aside, the only reason that Bangladesh is on the Chicom's horizon has to be a strategic position against India, one-China nonsense, or natural gas. The Chicoms do not go into sh*tholes unless there is something there for them.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 06/06/2006 23:00 Comments || Top||

#5  The ChiComs are postioning to steal the river that runs out of the mountains to Bangladesh. At one time they were talking about a PlowShare type action to move a mountain out of the way and properly redirect the river to China.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 23:34 Comments || Top||

#6  At least they are probably asking for a pebble bed reactor. Those cannot be used to make nuclear material, cannot meltdown, and are pretty close to idiot-proof. The Chinese are planning to build literally hundreds of them.

NB: The nuclear material is intermingled with ceramic into balls, each of which rests like eggs in a carton. They give off a fixed amount of heat for a fixed time, with very little supervision, then they are just disposed of as medium-level waste. In China, they are just dumped down a mine shaft.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/06/2006 23:45 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK: New Head of Muslim Council - 'Trust Could be an Issue'
The new leader of Britain's biggest Muslim organisation has warned of a breakdown of trust following the shooting of a man in a police raid in east London... In his first public engagement since his election as Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, Dr Bari visited residents, local businesses and police in the area.

He said: "The message is the confusion, it's the frustration and to some extent anger. People want to know what exactly happened and about the intelligence - is it genuine information, is it flawed?"

"These are the questions police have to answer as soon as possible." He added: "Trust could be an issue. Trust could break down if things are not clarified.

"Angry people can do anything, angry people can even feel that they should take the law into their own hands so anger has to be directed into positive action."

Yup, we'll remember the trust issue next time your ilk bomb a tube-train full of ornary folks. And you can guarantee that we'll have a look at taking the law into our own hands at the same time. One expected greater things after Iqbal Sacranie but sadly, no - just another moonbat with no sense of irony. Just don't ask him about gays on live radio...
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/06/2006 06:30 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The reason , i suspect that nothing has been released yet is something called 'follow-up' leads , Dr. Bari , you dumb fuck ...

I expect theres alot of avenues to explore down , all hindered by a negative response from the muslim commuinty followed by a legal assault by the moonbat lawyers looking for some pound stirling to line their already filthy pockets ... and let's not forget the retarded inept politicians who failed/chose to ignore the issues at hand , who at the end of the day are as much to blame as anyone for the state our country is in ..

As far as im concerned , the 'breakdown of trust' occured as soon as our politicians 'lubed up our countrys a$$hole ' by appeasing these hate filled fucktards

excuse my bad language , but you get the picture
Posted by: MacNails || 06/06/2006 7:21 Comments || Top||

#2  He's a supporter of forcing Koranic theocracy on free people.

I hope MI5 have his house, phone, mobile-phone, car and mosque bugged.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/06/2006 7:34 Comments || Top||

#3  "You wouldn't like us if we are angry!" - Muzzies

"When are you not?" - Bloggers

"Fucking try it assholes!" - Military
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/06/2006 9:45 Comments || Top||

#4  What about blowing people the f*ck up?
That could create trust issues too.
A cyanide bomb vest going off in a subway tube tommorow wouldn't even phase this guy's bullshit rhetoric.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Trust is a 2-way street moron!
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 11:34 Comments || Top||

#6  You're correct, Dr. Shit-for-brains, we don't trust you. We don't like you. And, we are just beginning to get angry. Life for you scum is going to be getting tougher. Don't like it. Get out. Go back to your shitholes. We prefer having you holed up in concentrated targeting locales.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/06/2006 12:23 Comments || Top||

#7  "Angry people can do anything, angry people can even feel that they should take the law into their own hands so anger has to be directed into positive action."

Yes boo-boo, we know all about angry muslims, humilated muslims, offended muslims, pimples caused by infidel muslims... all taking the "law" into Allan's hands. riotous and murderous as those lawless hands are.

Let it be know that we can get angry too. Haven't yet - still being tolerant and bending over backwards. But keep pushing it.

The "message", dear boo-bo, is that islamofacist nutbars are slaughtering large numbers of muslims and infidels. Deal with that. Not the "humiliation" of arrests. There is no getting through to these religious nutbars.

Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||


July 7 'insult' to 999 crews
EFL
The Mayor of London Ken Livingstone said people who criticised the emergency services over their response to the July 7 terror attacks were "nit picking" and said the rest of the world was "in awe" of how the services reacted.

He was responding to a report by the London Assembly which exposed a catalogue of failings including massive communication problems, a lack of basic medical supplies and a "completely unacceptable" failure to properly care for thousands of survivors.

The report said it was "unacceptable" that the emergency services were still unable to communicate by radio when underground - despite recommendations which followed the King's Cross fire 18 years ago.

A Transport for London spokesman said a £2 billion radio network for the Tube was being rolled out next year.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/06/2006 06:29 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When people lie bleeding to death for an hour underground (Russell Square) one does wonder exactly wtf was going on...
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/06/2006 6:49 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sure Mayor Nagins feels the same way about 'nit picking' his performance as well.
Posted by: Uloger Whease2177 || 06/06/2006 8:59 Comments || Top||

#3  In a democracy when the people elect boobs they deserve the results. Will the people of London correct the results when they next get a chance?
Posted by: Odysseus || 06/06/2006 9:40 Comments || Top||

#4  No chance.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/06/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#5  And the people of London should be different from the people of New Orleans, how?
Posted by: Snerese Angeang9015 || 06/06/2006 10:31 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder if he even understands the difference betweek "nit picking" and after action review for to improve performance.
Posted by: Croger Whaith9227 || 06/06/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#7  He has confused nit picking and nose picking.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#8  #6, I think he knows full well the difference depends upon which political party is involved as he is suppossed to be immune as a Red.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/06/2006 13:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, with the current goons in power in Toronto and their union pets of high wage and no work, we're screwed for an attack. All medic, transit and municipal staff would desert at the first moment. I have zero hope for a good response in this city in it's current political climate.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 21:29 Comments || Top||


UK site: Can we help dying infidel?
Jihadist websites discuss 'dilemmas,' respond to London anti-terror operation by attacking 'filthy infidels'

Internet sites run by young extremist Muslims in Britain and other Western countries have begun reacting to the anti-terror operation in London in which a 23 year-old suspect was shot.

"What filthy kuffar (infidels)," wrote one user on the Muntadaa jihadist forum. Similar messages expressing hatred for non-Muslims were echoed by other members of the site.

"There is little doubt left in the minds of the majority of Muslims that we are a community under siege," wrote Anjem Choudary, media secretary of the jihadist al-Ghurabaa website. "On the domestic front the British regime have brought in a range of draconian laws targeted specifically at Muslims and which facilitate the kind of oppressive tactics we saw employed on Friday (in the police raid)," Choudary said.

A protest against the shooting and arrests has also been organized by Islamist groups. "Make sure that you are there, we cannot watch the police shoot our brothers and remain silent!" A user said.

A leaflet advertising the protest, entitled "police target Muslims: Will you be next?" charged the British government with "occupying Muslim lands… the murder of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq, and (being) an active participant of torture experiments with the USA."

'Can we save dying infidel?'

Meanwhile, at the al-Ghurabaa website, a reader sent in a question, asking: "If a kaffir (infidel) is about to die on the road, can we help him?"

He was told that a dying 'infidel' could only be helped on the condition that he was called to Islam.

"If someone had covenant of security with the people he is living with, and the person was not at war with Islam and Muslims, it is allowed to help the person as part of his da'wah (Islamic spiritual awakening) to show his good character. But he must call him to Islam by it, and not do it out of love," the site's web team answered.

A man who wrote in to say he was offended by posters put up by the group in east London was told in response: "The way to better British society is to remove all the British values and to teach the people the Islamic values. If it wasn't for the man-made way of life in britain, we would never have seen such high levels of crime, rape, alcoholism, homosexuality, adultery, theft, burglary, exploitation and terrorism in the UK and the world today! Rather we must continue to struggle and change the British way of life and introduce and teach the Islamic values to all, so that all the people in Britain can flourish."

Members with usernames such as Zarqawi, and the base (al-Qaeda) continue to fill English-speaking Islamist forums with jihad rhetoric.

Quoting an Islamic medieval scholar, one forum member wrote: "The Jews are the cursed nation whom Allah is angry with. They are the people of lies, fabrications, treachery, conspiracies, and are murderers of Prophets and Messengers."

The same post describes Christians as "misguided cross worshipers. They are those who swear at Allah the Creator… and their biggest curse against Allah is the Trinity. According to the Christians, Mary is the lover of Allah and Jesus is His son. They claim the Almighty God came down from his great chair and melted in the womb of Mary, until he was killed and buried at the hands of man…They drink alcohol, eat pork, desert circumcision, worship with impurity and eat everything, even if it is filthy, whether that be the elephant or the mosquito."
Posted by: ryuge || 06/06/2006 00:49 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am offended! I gave up eating elephants and mosquitos for Lent!
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 06/06/2006 1:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Anyoe really think these people wouldn commit murder on the Stalinist or Hitlerian scale given the opportunity?

If you are not a muslim or dhimmi allen says it's OK fine. You can even enjoy it without sin. Sick and twisted.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/06/2006 1:30 Comments || Top||

#3  As I've said before, I'm waiting to hear about the first mosque bombing in Europe. That will be the signal that the real anti-Muzzy backlash is beginning. I have a feeling that once the Euros get going, Baruch Goldstein's total will be but a drop in the bucket.
Posted by: mac || 06/06/2006 3:56 Comments || Top||

#4  As someone said on here the other day - maybe we should give them a taste of the global jihad they so desperately crave, everything they've got versus everything we've got - only give them a week mind, and see how many wish to extend festivities to a fortnight.

BTW.. I would help anyone injured in a road accident - that's basic human compassion at work, something these nazis sorely lack. The need to even ask that question reflects with whom we are dealing.
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/06/2006 6:02 Comments || Top||

#5  charming bunch of well educated , well meaning , loved-up fruitcakes huh ....
just charming ...*sarcasm*
Posted by: MacNails || 06/06/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#6  we must continue to struggle and change the British way of life and introduce and teach the Islamic values to all, so that all the people in Britain can flourish

..exactly the same way all those societies in the Arab world have flourished. Considering their contributions to science, medicine, engineering etc.. who wouldn't want to be ruled by the master race..
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/06/2006 7:45 Comments || Top||

#7 
"...I would help anyone injured in a road accident..."

I used to think that way, but after all that I have read and seen of Muslims, I'd turn my back on one in an instant.

I'd tell them: "Let Allah save you, if he wills it!".

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 06/06/2006 8:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Nice of them to help adjust western public opinion by saying what they mean instead of couching it in boligne.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/06/2006 13:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Rather we must continue to struggle and change the British way of life and introduce and teach the Islamic values to all, so that all the people in Britain can flourish."

Look at your Islamic countiress - the ones slaughtering people, muslims and infidels alike. Look at the poverty, the abuse, the oppression, the disease, the mental illness, the failure, the hopelessnes, the pain, the loss of identity, the desire for death as a way out of the life you have planned and tell me exactly where "flourish" comes into this.

The voice of destruction murmers death to all. In the glory of the death cult - all shall be killed.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 21:49 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China soaks up Iran crude as Japan, Korea cut
SINGAPORE: China has boosted imports of Iranian crude by a quarter so far this year, making up for oil shipments cut by refiners in Japan and South Korea due in part to fears over Tehran’s stand-off with the West, national data shows. The official figures suggest Iran, which has started to hint it might use its oil as a tool in the row with the US and other countries over its nuclear programme, has a ready buyer in China, which has been hesitant to confront Tehran. China’s crude imports from Iran are up 74,000bpd in the first four months of the year, according to official data released last week.
Posted by: DanNY || 06/06/2006 08:17 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't this good news for the rest of the world? This pulls the teeth from the only threat they have.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Not to mention that, should the situation with Iran turn hot, China will be mightily distracted dealing with a sudden cessesion of oil shipments. Win/win!
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/06/2006 22:18 Comments || Top||

#3  China under Stalinism, Commmunism, and Maoism only has two LT choices short of war - to risk a long-term NORTH KOREA SYNDROME, i.e. STARVING BUT NUCLEARIZED, or a CUBA where the masses-Army starve whilst Fidel has to have his routinely imported expensive Black/Spanish hams [HAM-GATE]; or implode like the USSR due to the natural pressures of newfound wealth + modernization.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/06/2006 22:32 Comments || Top||


Europe
Terrorist recruiting on the rise in France
Islamic terrorists operating in France are more agile at plotting attacks, better educated and more ideologically grounded than a decade ago — and their numbers are growing despite advances in methods to track radicals, according to former and current intelligence officials.

French security services have thwarted several attacks and rounded up hundreds of suspects since deadly bombings in the mid-1990s by Algerian extremists that jolted the nation. While the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks heightened global awareness of the threat, France was already on alert — and has not suffered a major attack in a decade.

In a series of interviews with The Associated Press, French intelligence officials described changes in how terror cells finance and plan attacks, and how they recruit and train. Terrorist funding is coming from ingenious and often small-scale sources: money laundered through halal butcher shops, cannabis dealing, ATM scams.

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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:48 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, how long before France goes hot? When it does, my money is on the French. They can be vicious bastards, God bless them.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 06/06/2006 17:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Nothing short of a Hiroshima hit on a hotbed will stop this. it worked on the last suicide-oriented bunch.

I'm afraid that nothig short will stop this.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 21:54 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Interesting backgrounder on the father of one of the accused Canucks
The lingering threat of global terrorism became a concrete reality for Canadians on Saturday following allegations that 17 people plotted an imminent attack with three times the explosive material used in the devastating Oklahoma City bombing.

A bag of ammonium nitrate was displayed by police as they revealed that an "inspired by al-Qaida" group of mostly Canadian citizens had amassed three tonnes of the fertilizer - commonplace in backyard gardens but also used in large quantities to make explosives for deadly ends.

"It was their intent to use it for a terrorist attack," RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell said of the homegrown plot to target unspecified institutions throughout southern Ontario.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Message to my freinds in Canada. Dad shouldn't be around anything more atomic than a StaticMaster.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/06/2006 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  20 years ago the world was different.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Gonna be hard for defense Attys to argue "Boyz will be Boyz" playing at War, wid the components for a real bomb. ACLU???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/06/2006 1:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Rafael, when I lived in downtown TO 15+ years ago. I used to regularly walk past the atomic reactor on the UofT campus downtown. They used to have a nice sign on the side of the building to make sure you got the right building. And on a Sunday, you could park right up against the side of the building.

Just curious if things have changed.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/06/2006 3:06 Comments || Top||

#5  "It's not terrorism. It could be some criminal activity with a few guys, that's all," said Hindy.

"We are the ones always accused."


can you say ignorant behavior?
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 3:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I bet they get at least 5 years in prison.
Posted by: gromky || 06/06/2006 5:26 Comments || Top||

#7  They are Ummah Colonists not canadians.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/06/2006 7:24 Comments || Top||

#8 
"The majority sported the traditional Muslim male beard."


I wonder, do their women sport the traditional Muslim female beard? Just askin'.

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 06/06/2006 8:15 Comments || Top||

#9 
"The majority sported the traditional Muslim male beard."


This is a fallacy. THere is no such thing as a tradition of Muslim beard. First because there is a lot of ethnias who grow little or no beard
Second: Because even between those who could have a beard it was just a matter of personal taste.
Look at Muslim art: you will see a lot of mustaches but about none of the Caliphs, vizirs and guards has a beard, look at photos of crowws in Algeria or Egypt (specially photos before the Iranian revolution): about no beards and still less those untrimmed beards who are islamaist signature

The "traditional" Muslim beard is in fact a distinctive of wahabi inspired islmamists: Muhammad is supposed to have worn a beard so they wear beard, they will dress in what they think was Arabic 7th century style, because Muhammad applied kohl on his eyelids (to protect them from desert sun) so they will apply kohl on their eyelids despite living in Canada. And, in the worlds of an old Algerian, "if Muhammad had put a stick in his ass, they would stick a sticck in their ass"

Sooryy but those guys wearing the not-so-traditional islamic beard are in fact no mere Muslims but Isklamists and in fact people who support Jihad. Normal Muslims don't wear them.


Posted by: JFM || 06/06/2006 8:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Attack and annihilate every Muslim now so we can sleep tonight
What can we do to keep our nation secure ? Perhaps we need to start a dialog.
Posted by: wxjames || 06/06/2006 10:45 Comments || Top||

#11  phil_b:

a quick web search will give you a schematic, a handy map and directions by plane, train, car or subway to the SLOWPOKE reactor at the university. However, I'm more worried about someone blowing up the CANDU reactor at Pickering.
Posted by: growler || 06/06/2006 10:52 Comments || Top||

#12  phil_b,
I thought the reactor was decommissioned in 1999, but I'll have a look when I'm in the area. I recall seeing a sign or plaque or something to that effect.

Interestingly, a quick google of utoronto magazine came up with this:
There is also the sorry saga of cloned Chinese SLOWPOKEs in Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Ghana and Nigeria, reported in the Dec. 18, 1999 issue of the Toronto Star. C'est dommage.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 12:18 Comments || Top||

#13  "He's not a terrorist, come on, he's a Canadian citizen," Chand said of his brother. "The people that were arrested are good people. They go to the mosque. They go to school, go to college."
This statement stood out to me and speaks volumes. 20 years ago were there any mosque's in Canada? While I love diversity, I'm starting to wonder if it's all that it's chalked up to be. To embrace each other's cultures and religious freedoms I do agree that is a very important commonality. I do however feel that we as a people need to come together to get along and to support each other.
Diversity in my book doesn't mean to allow others to come in to a country and change the very heart and soul and then expect that we stand up for these values that go so much against the grain of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
This saturation and changing of our common core values needs to be looked at more closely. This trend is more than scary here. When this mind set becomes the majority I don't think they will be as supportive of my beliefs and culture.
Where are the people that think like me?
Ok I'm done, time to go back out and finish mowing.
Posted by: Jan || 06/06/2006 12:51 Comments || Top||

#14  20 years ago were there any mosque's in Canada?

Edmonton, Alberta has the longest existing Muslim community in North America. Been around for 100 years or so.

The bitter cold of the Edmonton winter meant that they were more concerned with keeping warm than any form of extremism. Global warming could change things though.

Jan, this mindset won't become the majority any time soon, if at all. Don't buy into this kind of fear mongering. Canada is not Europe. Doesn't mean there won't be successful terror strikes here, but then, that sort of thing will only serve to reassure people that there will never be a majority of that sort.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 13:20 Comments || Top||

#15  For some reason I think Mosque building should have been halted in the Western world on Sept 12, at least until the duration of hostilities is over. Same with visa applications to anyone from the Islamic world.

War is war and sometimes you have to take serious steps.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/06/2006 14:03 Comments || Top||

#16  Thanks, I do tend at times to get caught up in some terrible scenarios that could play out. Along with a bad feeling of everything getting alot worse before it gets better. I do usually feel pretty positive about life and things in general. A nice cold one helps after working hard outside in the sun :)
We just have to stay ever vigilant. I do hope that our politicians listen to us and strenghten our borders.
Posted by: Jan || 06/06/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#17  Jan, staying vigilant is postponing the inevitable. Islam intends to destroy all other belief systems, that includes all religions, science, art, music, and all other free forms of expression.
It's a paradox, but our duty is to defend freedom forever, or allow them to use our beliefs against our own freedom. To make the right choice, we MUST declare Islam a blood cult, not a religion. Therefore, we can make the practice of Islam unlawful. This is a necessary step, NECESSARY.
Posted by: wxjames || 06/06/2006 15:44 Comments || Top||

#18  Yes, knowing that the Koran teaches/intends to kill all infidels is pretty damn clear. What I mean by staying vigilant, is just that; that we need to stay awake, keeping on our toes, alertly watchful especially to avoid danger. To protect our freedoms that we hold so dear. The fact that we have compassion for others and that they trample all over us and see it as a sign of weakness just shows us what animals they can be. Actually animals are higher on the food chain in my book than these types that follow Jihad. I feel bad that we seem to have allowed them to get entrenched into our society and it's going to be an upwards battleground. Building the mosque is ok, it's what they discuss inside that's concerning. Freedom of speech is good, but we need to monitor the hate that is directed to us that is fed to these mosque attendees.
Posted by: Jan || 06/06/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#19  Anyone know if Chand is a common last name? I'd hate to think my primary care physician is related to these j#ck#sses..
Posted by: IG-88 || 06/06/2006 19:00 Comments || Top||

#20  He's not a terrorist, come on, he's a Canadian citizen," Chand said of his brother. "The people that were arrested are good people. They go to the mosque. They go to school, go to college."

Chand is a Hindu convert. Does this mean his brother is a convert too? Otherwise, what the heck does he know what goes down at a mosque.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 21:40 Comments || Top||


Canadian arrests reflect new shape of terror
About a month before Canadian authorities announced the arrests of 17 men last weekend in an alleged plot to bomb buildings in Ontario, the FBI issued an alert to state and local law enforcement authorities across the USA about the potential threat posed by homegrown terrorist groups.

By then, the young Canadian suspects, most of them products of middle-class backgrounds, were the focus of an international investigation with ties to the United States and the United Kingdom.

What triggered the FBI alert was not an imminent threat against the USA, the bureau now says, but a rapidly emerging pattern in terrorism investigations around the world: the apparent growth of groups that have no direct ties to al-Qaeda but have been inspired by Osama bin Laden's terrorist network.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:37 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Canadians unfamiliar with homegrown terror
Amid unconfirmed reports that the 17 men and boys arrested in Toronto over the weekend aimed to bomb the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa and office towers in downtown Toronto, Canadians are still breathing a sigh of relief that the Mounties — along with other police and intelligence agents — appear to have got their men. But there are still fears about what threats may remain undiscovered. Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, responsible for the Canadian Intelligence and Security Service and Royal Canadian Mounted Police, said there could be more arrests coming as the investigation continues.

Meanwhile, Canadians are wrestling with the shock of finding an alleged terror plot on their own soil, and debating what it may mean for Canada's role in the war on terror. Michael Wilson, the Canadian ambassador to the U.S., was quick to assert that Canada is on top of its domestic security threats, and to dispute New York Senator Peter King's suggestion that there is "a disportionate number of Al-Qaeda in Canada because of their very liberal immigration laws." In fact, since most of the young men arrested were born or grew up in Canada, this appears to be a homegrown threat. Which leaves another question that Canadians are not accustomed to: why would their fellow citizens be willing to resort to acts of terror in their own country?

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, echoing President Bush's past statements, said Canadians are targets "because of who we are and how we live, our society, our diversity and our values — values such as freedom, democracy and the rule of law." Though Canada has not participated in the war in Iraq, some have linked the terror plot to the country's continuing military presence in Afghanistan, which has been the subject of recent heated debate. In May Parliament approved extending the Afghanistan mission by the narrowest of margins.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:36 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "a disportionate number of Al-Qaeda in Canada because of their very liberal immigration laws."

What the hell is that supposed to mean? A lot of this rhetoric is bandied about but nobody seems able to supply any specific examples of what they mean by Canadian liberal immigration policies.

The problem is, the Canadian government promises a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for every qualified immigrant that they accept, but then abandons them when they arrive, thinking they will assimilate and adapt almost immediately. Some do, some don't. Those that don't, cry racism, and their kids become radicalized even though they've been brought up here. Simple as that.

Stop promising the pot of gold. Give more points for evidence of entrepreneurship skills, and make them sign papers upon papers outlined in bold that they understand they are on their own once they land here.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 1:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Welcome to our world.

Finally - but somehow it'll be our fault.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/06/2006 1:06 Comments || Top||

#3  These guys are not coming in as immigrants, Rafael, but refugees. Immigrant do have grade scales and wherewithall. Took 10 years and 12 years respectively for immigration of UK relatives - with paperwork, money and job guarantees.

It's the "refugees", without documentation or background check that get turned loose. With good bucks and all the gravy while they spin through the system for 10 or 12 years "pending appeal". Married to their old country wars all the while and snearing at the country that is stupid enough to bend to their every whim.

A genuine refugee does assimilate as quickly as they can (I do ESL classes as a volunteer and meet all types). The welfare cheque and "hate the country, love the free living" crowd really stand out.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:03 Comments || Top||

#4  I worked for a private security firm in the GTA for 3 years. Because it's been the easiest job to get until recently (it's basically customer service with minimal security training), many immigrants flock to this type of work initially, if they can't find a job in their field.

Dude, I've seen and heard it all. I mean all. Can I put that in bold? ALL. Some of these guys I'd like to escort to the border myself, and make sure they never come back. The only sanity in that 3-year experience was that I've met some really good guys with military and police experience from abroad. Learned a lot from them.

As far as the refugees, there's been news lately about families being deported, the latest is that Latin-American family, whom the judge allowed to stay until June so that the kids can finish their school year. There was that Polish family a while back. And some dude whose claim was rejected. So the system does seem to work. Admittedly, it's kinda hard to stop people from requesting refugee status once they get here through any means. At least the whole refugee shopping thing has been curtailed by the new laws.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 23:31 Comments || Top||


Bomb-plot figure was mosque regular
MISSISSAUGA, Ontario - Qayyum Abdul Jamal and several others arrested Friday in what Canadian police say was a foiled bomb plot were regulars at Al-Rahman mosque, a storefront space sandwiched between a Hasty convenience market and a beauty saloon in a small strip mall in Mississauga. The 43-year-old Jamal, the oldest of those nabbed in the police sweep, lived with his family just down the road, in a neat, suburban townhouse complex where neighbors said he spent a lot of time fixing cars in his driveway. ``He was quiet. Didn't say much,'' said his next-door neighbor.
"A loner. Kept to himself..."
But that was not true at the mosque. Jamal's angry view of the world, and his belief that the West is at war with Muslims, boiled over there, others say. It was so strident it startled Wajid Khan, a Muslim member of Parliament who stopped at the mosque last year on his regular rounds of his district just west of Toronto. ``I was concerned that he had found a bunch of young kids and he was able to influence them,'' Khan said in an interview Sunday. ``I think we have to be extremely vigilant in the Muslim community. We have to watch out for people who are trying to teach disaffected youths that it's the Muslims against the rest, a war of civilizations.''
Yeah. I guess you do. You might start by grabbing the guys spewing spittle and rolling their eyes and putting them in straightjackets.
Posted by: Fred || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I know the answer before I ask it, but why does the west, Canada and the US included, not have the courage and common sense to shut down these 'mosques' and either arrest or deport their leaders and followers? Wake up! All over North America there are terrorist training cells masquerading as the religion of peace. If we don't have the guts to take the heat from the whining left and do something about it, we shouldn't feign surprise when our people are blown up. Patriotism isn't just waving the flag, supporting the troops and reciting the pledge. It's doing whatever it takes to defend out country and our way of life. If I had a pile of stinking garbage dumped on my front lawn, I'd be about finding who is responsible and making them clean it up.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 06/06/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I've always wondered why we don't at least monitor what is said especially on Fridays. Probably a question of resources?
Posted by: Unique Battle || 06/06/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#3  LGF used to run a regular "Friday Sermon Watch" feature, until the Islamists got wise and stopped publishing the translations...
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/06/2006 10:57 Comments || Top||

#4  I think better for you guys to stop attacking muslims and islam, because as you proceed further and further, the hate against you gwrows bigger and begger, then when it becomes a matter of presence or not, I think you will be wipped off by your own suporters now.... West or East Syria is the best
Posted by: Sami || 06/06/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#5  It's terrible the way dirty infidel Canadians are attacking pious muslims who are just doing their religious duty to destroy the tallest bulding in Canada. Can't have any infidel structure taller than the mosque minaret. The Hadiths say this humiliation is intolerable. The mushriks must die and in the process should be grateful for allah's mercy.

And Sami, run for it! The Secret Mounties have got your IP and address. They are coming to get you.
Posted by: ed || 06/06/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey Sami, let me try and help. We speak ENGLISH in this forum.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 06/06/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Yeah! Thanks Sami.
Join us next week on "lets make no fucking sense"
When we'll be duct taping aardvarks all over the garden shed.
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 06/06/2006 19:55 Comments || Top||

#8  #7 LOL - ya got me...gotta clean the monitor now, dammit
Posted by: Frank G || 06/06/2006 20:29 Comments || Top||

#9  Since when do badgers have a grudge against aardvarks?
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/06/2006 22:24 Comments || Top||

#10  It was so strident it startled Wajid Khan, a Muslim member of Parliament who stopped at the mosque last year on his regular rounds of his district just west of Toronto. ``I was concerned that he had found a bunch of young kids and he was able to influence them,'' Khan said in an interview Sunday.

Last year. You are a member of Parliament and you said what? You spoke out loudly to whom?

Last year. You are an MP and you witnessed a mosque influence young children to radical thought. And you did what? Nothing?

You are a Member of Parliament. A Muslim member who says he witnessed these things and was "concerned" by what he saw.

Last year. And said nothing. Did nothing.

Just hunched his shoulders and said "Inshallah". Like the rest of the moderate muslims.

After all, Islam is the best religion, despite the country.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Restructuring at State Department `botched,' retiree says
A reorganization of the State Department offices that are leading the fight against weapons of mass destruction was badly managed and politicized, which led to a flight of experts with decades of knowledge, according to a new account by a veteran weapons expert.

Dean Rust, who watched the reorganization unfold, charges that its "botched implementation" led many career officers to leave and "will hamper the State Department's role at home and abroad for years to come."

The account by Rust, who left the department last September, appears in the upcoming issue of Arms Control Today magazine, published by the nonpartisan Arms Control Association. It's scheduled to be posted Tuesday on the group's Web site.
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Posted by: ryuge || 06/06/2006 00:39 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  --Dean Rust, who watched the reorganization unfold, charges that its "botched implementation" led many career officers to leave and "will hamper the State Department's role at home and abroad for years to come."--

He says that like it's a bug.....
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/06/2006 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Got rid of all his liberal and communist pals did they? Anytime a group calls it's self "non partisan" a bit of digging will prove it is not to anyone other than a journalist.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/06/2006 3:05 Comments || Top||

#3  When a group from State declares itself "non-partisan", it means they couldn't decide whether to favor the Saudis, the Iranians, the French, or the Soviets.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/06/2006 6:05 Comments || Top||

#4  The "official and others" spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing retaliation.

It seems there is still some dust under the carpet or hard to reach corners.
Posted by: SwissTex || 06/06/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Any reorg of a State Dept. that couldn't admit Arafat ordered the execution of it's Sudan diplomats is a good reorg.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 11:45 Comments || Top||

#6  The Arms Control Association is supported by generous grants from the following foundations:

Colombe Foundation
Ford Foundation
Steven and Michele Kirsch Foundation
John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
New-Land Foundation
Ploughshares Fund
Prospect Hill Foundation
Public Welfare Foundation
Rockefeller Brothers Foundation
Simons Foundation
Stewart R. Mott Charitable Trust
Posted by: Pappy || 06/06/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Yeah, "non partisan" is one of those terms that should automatically set off flashing lights. It's kinda like "non aligned"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/06/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||

#8  #6 The Arms Control Association is supported by generous grants from the following foundations...

Damn Al Gore all to hell for inventing that Internet thingy!!!

/lefty
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 06/06/2006 23:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Teacher lent support to Pakistani terror group
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia - A third-grade teacher at a Muslim school in Maryland traveled to Pakistan shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, trained with a terrorist organization there and later served as chauffeur for one of that group’s leaders during his US travels, prosecutors said. Prosecutors and defense lawyers made their closing arguments Monday in the trial of Ali Asad Chandia, 29, who is charged with providing material support to Lashkar-e-Taiba, an organization that supports Muslim control of the Kashmir territory on the India-Pakistan border. The US government declared Lashkar a terrorist organization in December 2001.

Prosecutors have said that Lashkar served as a potential gateway for Americans and others who wanted to join the Taleban in neighboring Afghanistan in its fight against US troops in late 2001.

The charges against Chandia stem from a government investigation of what prosecutors called a “Virginia jihad network,” a group of young Muslim men who used paintball games in 2000 and 2001 as paramilitary training for holy war around the globe. Ten people have been convicted in that investigation, including the group’s spiritual leader, Ali al-Timimi, who was sentenced to life in prison for soliciting treason and urging group members to fight US troops in Afghanistan.
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Posted by: Steve || 06/06/2006 08:59 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Guilty ! Do not pass go. Go straight to Guantanamo. 400 years and out.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/06/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||


Canadian border difficult to secure
Tighter border controls between the United States and Canada are likely to be less useful than better domestic intelligence and information-sharing in detecting homegrown terrorist plots in North America, terrorism experts said yesterday.

According to Canadian authorities, the suspected fertilizer bomb plot that led to the arrest Saturday in Ontario of 17 men, most of them Canadian citizens of South Asian origin, appeared to follow the pattern of successful terrorist attacks in Madrid in 2004 and in London last year. As in those instances, officials said, those accused in the Canadian case are Muslims with no evident ties to Al Qaeda leaders overseas except a shared ideology.

"These are the metastases of the cancer of international Islamic extremism," said John O. Brennan, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center and a former career Central Intelligence Agency officer. "It shows the terrorist threat may be within our midst and not coming from off our shores."
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:39 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I think that our immigration laws as they are implemented are very close in the outcomes as the United States immigration laws,"

Exactly.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  There's a wild rumor that we're all in this together. Silly, I know. We're not at all alike. Their football fields are all skewed out of proportion. Way too big. Lets the skinny little shits get away instead of being crushed like ripe grapes, the way it oughtta be. Okay, so I always hated those little fast guys. Fucking Canadians. Letting skinny little shits get away like that. Good thing I don't hold a grudge.
Posted by: flyover || 06/06/2006 3:23 Comments || Top||

#3  You forgot your [/humor] tag, flyover. ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 06/06/2006 7:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Tighter border controls between the United States and Canada are likely to be less useful than better domestic intelligence and information-sharing in detecting homegrown terrorist plots in North America, terrorism experts said yesterday.

What would we do without experts?
Allow one major successful terrorist attack from either neighbor and you'll see the border close tighter than a sphincter on a flea and border trade drop to nil.
Posted by: Uloger Whease2177 || 06/06/2006 8:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Unlikely UW. Our two economies are as tightly linked as they come. Not totally sure on this, but I believe our trade with Ontario alone is greater than our trade with any one country apart from Canada.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 06/06/2006 11:01 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't think many Americans care, CL.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 12:08 Comments || Top||

#7  A quarter mile wide patch of poison ivy for the length of the border would be a pretty good first patch at securing it.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 15:41 Comments || Top||

#8  And the Great Lakes?
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 15:51 Comments || Top||

#9  Sharks. Sharks with Lasers.
Posted by: ed || 06/06/2006 15:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Rafael: I don't think many Americans care, CL.

Sure we do Rafael,

But first it's just like what flyover said...

You gotta syncronize team Canada with USA football rulz, and “Render unto Gitmo the things which are Gitmo's, and unto Ole Sparky the things that are Ole Sparky's.”
Posted by: RD || 06/06/2006 18:12 Comments || Top||

#11  The football rules I can live with. The cultural sneering at the US combined with flirtation with Sharia .... is more of a concern.
Posted by: lotp || 06/06/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Sorry Dan, frankly, this article is crap. If you want to secure the Canadian border, you only have to deal with the three ports of entry into Canada: Toronto Airport, Montreal Airport, and Vancouver Airport. There are no other places to get into Canada other than the port of Halifax and cargo ship traffic.

Control three airports, and you control who gets into the country and who reaches the US border. This is so simple a child could figure it out, but we are dealing with politicians.
Posted by: john || 06/06/2006 21:07 Comments || Top||

#13  Cut a deal with Alberta. Fence the rest of them off. All those imports are Chevys we don't need.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/06/2006 21:23 Comments || Top||

#14  I assume you don't live near the Canadian border, john. I grew up in a suburb of Buffalo, New York, about 20 minutes drive from Niagara Falls. I seem to recall several bridges crossing over the Niagara River to Canada in our vicinity, plus one could easily sail across Lake Erie, from one marina to another. Further along the border, there are unfenced, unguarded roads that connect small communities on both sides of the border, for the convenience of truckers bringing beer to the bars on the other side, and suchlike activities. I rather imagine that much of the border could be crossed unobserved on foot, without the attendent difficulties of transversing a hostile desert, as at the Mexican border.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/06/2006 22:40 Comments || Top||

#15  John is talking about getting into Canada in the first place, I believe.
Posted by: flyover || 06/06/2006 22:45 Comments || Top||

#16  Unless, of course, you think the jihadis infiltrate Canada from the US. That may, indeed, be a problem, lol.
:)
Posted by: flyover || 06/06/2006 22:47 Comments || Top||

#17  On rereading that, clearly you're right, flyover. My apologies, john. Although there does seem to be a problem with back-and-forth flow of bad guys across that border, based on this latest series of arrests around the world. The U.S. is not an uninvolved bystander in Canada's troubles, sadly.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/06/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||

#18  The cultural sneering at the US combined with flirtation with Sharia .... is more of a concern.

Pffft. You guys have a culture? I mean, besides the gun culture of course. (relaaax, put them back in the holsters, that was just me being silly)

Regarding Sharia...if you meant that literally, it's the Liberals who put an end to that, in Ontario at least.

john: Control three airports, and you control who gets into the country

More airports than that I'm afraid: Gander, Happy-Valley Goose Bay (love that name), Iqaluit, Kuujjuaq. All refueling points for general aviation, coming in from across the pond. Fortunately, not many people take that route. Maybe two in five years.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/06/2006 23:14 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistani court orders Tajiks freed
A Pakistani court Monday dropped terrorism charges against two Tajik nationals and ordered their release, after being arrested for about three years for their alleged links with Al-Qaeda, said officials.

The Additional District and Session Court of Peshawar, capital of North-West Frontier Province (NWFP), handed over the two alleged suspects, Muhammad Khalid and Muhammad Hussain, to their relatives and ordered to repatriate them, Javed Ibrahim Paracha, chairman World Prisoners Association, told reporters.

He said his relative arrived here from Tajikistan last week. Khalid and Hussain were arrested three years back in a military raid on a religious seminary of South Waziristan tribal agency.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:15 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:


Expelled islanders await Britain’s next move
POINTE AUX SABLES, Mauritius - Elianee Siatous still recalls the day a British official said her Indian Ocean homeland had been sold and she would be sent into exile hundreds of miles away. Along with 2,000 others, Siatous was forcefully expelled by Britain from the Chagos archipelago in the 1960s and 1970s to make way for a US airbase on Diego Garcia, one of the islands.

Exiled from the coralline islands lying halfway between Africa and Indonesia, the Chagossians were dumped hundreds of miles away on the shores of Mauritius and Seychelles.

Last month a British High Court ruling rekindled hope amongst the islanders that going back might be possible. After a long legal battle the court ruled that special measures taken to block their return were unlawful, paving the way for compensation and a right to go home. Britain has until Thursday to appeal against the ruling.
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Posted by: Steve White || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wanker socialist anti US of A judges and government employees are helping out as is their socialist lawyer. Regardless of what some Judge says the UK governmnent has the power to take their land with the power of the state and use it for the states purpose. I would love to see that Judge enforce his ruling on the US military. As the saying goes "good luck with that."
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/06/2006 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  From what I've read, they don't actually want to go back there.
They want to be resettled elsewhere and to receive compensation.
They were literally dumped in Mauritius (where they are not wanted).

So it is really about money.

The British Government will have a hard time arguing emminent domain .. the records from that time are not flattering..

"Sir Paul Gore-Booth, a leading figure in the British Foreign Office, wrote at the time, “we must be very tough about this” and that “there will be no indigenous population [on Diego Garcia] except seagulls.”

One diplomat declared in another document, “Unfortunately along with the birds go a few Tarzan and Man Fridays whose origins are obscure, and who are being hopefully whisked on to Mauritius.” "
Posted by: john || 06/06/2006 16:41 Comments || Top||


Iraq
The Answer to Michael Moore?
Found the link at Roger Simon's site. It takes some time to download, but it's worth it.

Here's the url in case I messed up the link: http://www.patdollard.com/
Posted by: Tibor || 06/06/2006 14:18 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I'll take 'Moonbats' for $600, Alex."

"The answer to Michael Moore."

*Ding!*

"Mike."

"What is liposuction?"

"Correct."
Posted by: Mike || 06/06/2006 16:22 Comments || Top||

#2  That was one hell of a trailer.
Posted by: djohn66 || 06/06/2006 18:05 Comments || Top||


Learned Elders of Islam™ sez Arab League conference is "for poopyheads"
...or words to that effect.
Baghdad - A prominent leader in the Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars warned on Monday that his group will not participate in the Iraqi national dialogue conference, accusing Iraqi politicians of unwillingness to return Baathist Sunnis to absolute power defuse Iraq's crises.

Mohammed Bashar al-Faydi showed scepticism towards the conference that is due to take place this month under the auspices of the Arab League, adding that his group will pull out of talks unless politicians stick to an earlier agreement reached by Iraqi factions in Cairo. 'What is the aim of the reconciliation conference? Is it to pull Iraq out of its crisis or to support Iraqi politicians?' he asked. 'Iraqi politicians are not looking for a settlement to the Iraqi problem but are looking for a carnival-like solution to support their position in power, and we are not ready to give them that support. We are willing to support the Iraqi people,' he added, 'as long as they understand who's their daddy.'

The Sunni group participated last February in a national dialogue for Iraqis in Cairo despite opposition by many factions, but al-Faydi charged that politicians 'shirked carrying out' any of the provisions of that agreement. 'What will happen in the Baghdad (conference) will be the same thing because the faces have not changed and if we reach an agreement, they will abandon it after days,' he added. Mokhtar Lamani, head of the Arab League's bureau in Baghdad, meeting with top Iraqi politicians and religious figures in preparation for the conference of national dialogue set for June 22.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/06/2006 11:28 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Refusing to participate.
That always gives you more clout.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 12:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Ah, it's the Arab way!
Posted by: Bobby || 06/06/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Like everybody else familiar with the Arab League, they too probably think of them as useless idiots not worth the time.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/06/2006 19:19 Comments || Top||


In Cold Blood
June 6, 2006: Accusations that American troops murdered civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan are in the news again. Some of it is the usual propaganda that the enemy has learned is worth tossing out there from time to time. Some of it sticks with someone, somewhere. Even Europeans media sometimes fall for doctored or mislabeled photos of dead civilians, and publish them as "American atrocities". The implication is that American troops are out of control, poorly trained and led. Much of this is fed by those opposed to the removal of Saddam, via a war that did not have to approval of the UN. This is all more about scoring political points than anything else.

What is unusual about the current accusations is that such events are rare. While there are a lot of civilians killed by combat actions in Iraq and Afghanistan, most are clearly just people caught in the cross fire. The enemy knowingly takes cover among civilians, to take advantage of American "Rules of Engagement" (ROE). But at the same time, the American ROE these days puts the safely of American troops above all else. Thus if the enemy hides among civilians and opens fire, U.S. troops will return fire, and the civilians either get out of the way, or get hit. Brutal, but the alternative is dead Americans. The enemy makes the most of the civilians they have caused, through their actions, to get killed. The current atrocity accusations are about "cold blood" killings. The investigation will have to decide when the "heat of battle" turns into "cold blood." That's a tough decision to make, and the large number of imbedded journalists have written stories about it. These are not the kind of pieces editors love, as they are not as headline grabbing as atrocity stories.

There are other kinds of stories editors have avoided. Take, for example, what commonly occurred during World War II. When the Germans, for example, were found to have killed Allied prisoners, there was a period of weeks or months after that where Allied troops were taking far fewer German prisoners. After D-Day in 1944, this happened first on the Normandy beachhead, when some German SS troops killed some Canadian prisoners. Soon, German troops realized it was not a good idea to get captured by the Canadians, as German prisoners did not survive their captivity very long. This sort of thing happened again at the end of 1944, during the Battle of the Bulge, when SS troops killed a lot of American prisoners. Retribution was quietly applied.
Personal note: My godfather was one of those captured by the Germans at the Battle of the Bulge. He never talked about it, but hated everything German till the day he died. It wasn't till years later I figured out he must have been one of the few who escaped the massacre.
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Posted by: Steve || 06/06/2006 09:24 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This sort of thing happened again at the end of 1944, during the Battle of the Bulge, when SS troops killed a lot of American prisoners. Retribution was quietly applied.

Like here.
Posted by: Snerese Angeang9015 || 06/06/2006 10:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Open question to the MSM;
Islamic radicals kill about 200 Muslims a day. Last year the number was 100. What difference does it matter if a few Americans retaliate in a world falling into chaos ? What difference can it matter to the countless victims of Islamic brutality ? And, how long do you think you can sweep the truth under the rug ?
There is a world war going on; Free men against Islamic radicals and ultimately, civilization against Islam.
When will the MSM wake up ?
Posted by: wxjames || 06/06/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Two stories I heard while growing up:

1. My buddy Tom's father was in the 101st at Bastogne. In the course of the battle, my Tom's father's unit captured some SS from the same SS unit that was responsible for Malmedy. A couple or three guys were detailed to guard the prisoners, and Tom's father heard them being ordered to "take these prisoners to the collection point and be back in five minutes." The collection point was several miles to the rear, and there was no motor transport available. You do the math.

2. My Dad's division overran part of the Belsen concentration camp in April of 1945. Dad does not talk about this experience much, but he did once tell me that while the camp guards surrendered, his unit didn't take them prisoner.
Posted by: Mike || 06/06/2006 10:45 Comments || Top||

#4  My Father has told me stories about my Grandfather in WWII. He was in Belgium fighting the Germans, seems the Belgians were trying to play both sides of the game. The Canadian Air Force "accidentally" bombed a few Belgian towns to let them know which side they should be playing for.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#5  There was the story of a Waffen SS (ie combattants) unit who, at ythe end of thwar, perhaps after the cease fire, surrendered in the vicinity of a concentration camp. But, the allied soldiers, who just seen the camp, shot them believing they were Totenkopf Verband SS (camp guards).

Now Waffen SS perpetrated many atrocities and there were frequent personal movemnts between the Waffen SS and the Totenkop Verband.
Posted by: JFM || 06/06/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#6  My German brother-in-law deserted the Nazis, stole a bicycle and rode across Poland to escape the murderous Russians, only to surrender to the Americans. He is now an American citizen, married to a former WWII bomber pilot's daughter, and very thankful the Americans fed him better than he had growing up. Even with his Nazi Aryan indoctrination, he knew it was his only way to escape sure torture and death.
Posted by: Danielle || 06/06/2006 11:21 Comments || Top||

#7  JFM: You are referring to Dachau, I think. There's a whole web page on the incident here.
Posted by: Mike || 06/06/2006 12:18 Comments || Top||

#8  Thank you, Mike.
Posted by: JFM || 06/06/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||

#9  The story I've heard fourth hand is of a German tank crew that miraculously survived the Eastern Front, escaped across Germany to surrender to the western Allies, and promptly had the crap beaten out of them by some Canadians because their tanker uniforms resembled SS uniforms.
Posted by: Matt || 06/06/2006 14:10 Comments || Top||

#10  You are referring to Dachau, I think.

There's more information linked in comment #1.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 06/06/2006 14:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Common stuff.
In Italy, Dad gave some SS prisoners to two soldiers to take behind the lines to a collection point. They returned within 10 mins. Dad looked at them funny, asked if they turned them over, and then took all future prisoners back himself. Of course that meant he lost out on all the good loot like Lugars. Liberating the German's cognac supplies in Trieste kind of made up for all those negative vibes.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 15:26 Comments || Top||

#12  I know 'Nam vets who talk of the same thing wrt vc prisoners. War sucks, but it's not the worst of things. The worse thing in the world imho is somebody who has nothing in which they would fight for.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 06/06/2006 15:44 Comments || Top||

#13  Ever wonder why we didn't have many Japanese soldiers in our POW camps? Maybe it's because we didn't take many Japanes prisoners.

Shoe on the other foot-- Ever wonder why you almost never see a US grunt taken prisoner in Iraq? Maybe it's because our guys are taught to NEVER be taken alive. Actually, there's no 'maybe' about it. They are taught that.
Posted by: Parabellum || 06/06/2006 19:39 Comments || Top||


U.S. Military Drills Adapt Amid Concerns
Allegations that Marines killed unarmed men, women and children in Haditha are prompting questions about whether U.S. troops get proper training for a war against insurgents who walk freely among Iraqi civilians. The military has adapted its training, but troops say no one arrives in Iraq completely ready for the complexity and stress of a guerrilla war in which insurgents are loosely organized and fight with hit-and-run tactics on the streets of cities crowded with innocent bystanders. "Nothing is going to prepare you," Spc. Travis Gillette, a 26-year-old Army infantryman from Coldwater, Mich., said as he pulled deeply on a cigarette. "You can train up all you want, but you're not going to be prepared until you get here and mingle with the culture."

The brass does try to prepare soldiers and Marines, though. From changes in boot camp, where recruits learn the basics of fighting in Iraq, to advanced training centers that teach commanders about urban insurgencies, the U.S. military has tailored its training at home for the mission in Iraq.
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Posted by: Steve White || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Haditha investigation will not conclude until August, so let's give the speculation a rest.

As for preparing troops for Iraq, this remains work in progress. Nothing matches the real thing, but training continues to be revise until it gets as close as possible.

In other words, this is a meaningless hand wringing article.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/06/2006 8:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Allegations that Marines killed unarmed men, women and children in Haditha are prompting questions about whether U.S. troops get proper training for a war against insurgents who walk freely among Iraqi civilians.

Cause = Effect. The left doesn't get it anymore than their friends like the Paleos. This is why the Geneva Convention calls for combatants to wear distinctive clothing/markings so as to permit true civilians to attain a degree of protection in the conduct of war. This is why the Convention is NOT extended to those who do not comply with the requirement. This is why those captured on the battlefield end up in detention facilities like GITMO. This is why you also throw these a*holes into confinement when they routinely use civilians and 'protected' facilities [mosques, hospitals, schools] as protection and cover for their activities. This is not a game.
Posted by: Uloger Whease2177 || 06/06/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||


Saddam's Defense Team Alleges Intimidation
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The chief judge in Saddam Hussein's trial said Monday four defense witnesses have been jailed on suspicion of perjury, drawing accusations from defense lawyers that the court was trying to intimidate witnesses.
Like that never happened when Sammy was in charge.
The defense lawyers said Iraqi soldiers beat several of the witnesses during their arrest May 31.
Good. I don't get heartburn over these things, but I also don't eat Ethel's chili.
Three of the witnesses testified last week that some of the 148 Shiites that Saddam and his seven co-defendants are accused of killing were still alive, defense lawyer Najib al-Nueimi told The Associated Press. The fourth told the court that chief prosecutor Jaafar al-Moussawi tried to bribe him to make up testimony against Saddam. "The court was surprised because it didn't expect the truth to be revealed this way," Saddam's top lawyer, Khalil al-Dulaimi said. The arrests, he said, "are a clear message to the defense witnesses and lawyers."

When lawyers complained at Monday's session about the arrests and beating, chief judge Raouf Abdel-Rahman retorted, "They committed perjury. Should I reward them?" He said he had ordered them held for investigation.
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Posted by: Steve White || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually there's no physical or forensic evidence in the Dujayl case, i.e. no mass graves that have ever been found and exhumed. However the defense claim that many of those on the execution list are still alive is completely unsupported - and obviously a claim like that is the easiet to prove: you just produce the person. The court investigated the case for over a year and at no time encountered either any survivors or anyone claiming to know of any. Likely these claims are pure b.s. - as the claims of beatings certainly are.
Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq || 06/06/2006 2:03 Comments || Top||

#2  They are going to stretch Saddam, the sooner everyone gets that through their heads the better.
End of story.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Gaza gummint workers get month's wages
GAZA CITY -- A Palestinian bank began paying one month's salary to thousands of civil servants yesterday despite threats of Western sanctions against institutions that deal with the Hamas government.

The move by the Bank of Palestine to pay wages to 10,300 of the lowest-paid employees in the Palestinian Authority came after militant groups warned that local banks refusing to help their people would be branded a "tool" of Israel. Thousands of government workers who have not been paid in three months flocked to withdraw money. Some kissed their money or the bank's automated teller machines.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure the medium and highest paid are very happy about that.
Posted by: 2b || 06/06/2006 0:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe they can all go have a drink at the bar at Gaza International Airport 'n' Donkey Stables.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/06/2006 0:43 Comments || Top||

#3  ... where everyone is employed, and no one works ...
Posted by: Steve White || 06/06/2006 1:04 Comments || Top||

#4  LOL!
Posted by: 2b || 06/06/2006 1:05 Comments || Top||

#5  I bet the Airport "Workers" were first in line. I guess the threats by Hamas were taken serously, but i got to wonder how long the Bank can continue when they are goint to get their funds frozen.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 06/06/2006 10:16 Comments || Top||

#6  See ya in three months for July's...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/06/2006 14:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Gimmie my graft.
Posted by: Mark E. || 06/06/2006 20:14 Comments || Top||

#8  But not before me! I refuel the airplanes at the airpot. A very important and educated job. (My certification is 8 years out of date but don't tell anyone.)

I kiss the ATM by the coffe shoppe where I sit all day.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:37 Comments || Top||


Abbas to call referendum on Palestinian statehood
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will call a referendum on a statehood proposal that implicitly recognizes Israel after last-ditch talks with the Hamas government foundered on Monday, his office said. The referendum, expected in July, will be seen as a confidence vote in the new government and its policy of refusing to recognize Israel, which has led Western countries to impose crippling economic sanctions on the Palestinian Authority. Abbas had given the Hamas Islamic militants until midnight to embrace a manifesto drawn up by prisoners in an Israeli jail. Hamas has rejected the document, which implicitly recognizes Israel by calling for a Palestinian state on land occupied by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war, and said a referendum would be illegal, setting the stage for a showdown with Abbas.

Abbas would set the date for the referendum after meeting the executive committee of the umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Tuesday, his office said in a statement, carried by the Palestinian WAFA news agency. "In light of recent contacts, President Abbas will decide the date of the referendum after a meeting of the PLO executive committee," the statement said.

Khalida Jarar, a lawmaker from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, told reporters after factions held talks with Abbas in the West Bank city of Ramallah late on Monday that he felt he had no option but to call the referendum. Jarar said Abbas also held a 70-minute phone conversation with Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh on the proposal, which she said also ended without agreement. Haniyeh is a senior Hamas leader.
Posted by: Fred || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, any fool can see that they are ready for self-governance.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Moro Rebels Still Hiding Terrorists, Military Says
Cotabato City, 6 June (AKI) - Filipino armed forces cannot launch an attack against militants of the al-Qaeda linked Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) as they are being sheltered by the country’s largest Muslim rebel group - with which the government is currenty holding peace talks - a leading army general said Tuesday. About 30 Indonesian JI militants are hiding in the camps of Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) on Mindanao Island, Army's Sixth Infantry Division chief Maj. Gen. Rodolfo Obaniana told Adnkronos International (AKI).
"It's difficult for us to launch an offensive against them because they are protected by these rebels. We are avoiding a mis-encounter between soldiers and rebels but this can still happen in the future," Obaniana warned. "Our latest count of JI in Mindanao is 30. Ten of them are hiding in Central Mindanao region," the general added.

Obaniana said the JI along with the Abu Sayyaf, led by Khadafi Janjalani, remains a serious threat to the country's security. However, he did not mention if the leaders of the 30 JI are Dulmatin and Omar Patek. The two fugitives terrorists, believed to be hiding in Mindanao, have bounties on their heads from the US State Department.

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Posted by: Steve || 06/06/2006 08:21 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Philippines ferry bombing witness claims he was duped into confession
A KEY WITNESS in the rebellion case against an Abu Sayyaf-linked group accused of bombing a ferry and killing 116 people has recanted his confession, claiming a Department of Justice prosecutor duped him into signing the statement admitting to the crime.

After his recantation, Malik Alimudin and his eight alleged conspirators in the bombing of the SuperFerry 14 in February 2004 sought the dismissal of the charges against them.

The accused included Hilarion de los Santos III, purported leader of the Rajah Solaiman Movement, a group of Christian converts to Islam allegedly associated with the al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf.

Alimudin, of Zamboanga City, was arrested along with seven relatives and friends of De los Santos, who is also known as Ahmed Islam Santos.

“I am not a rebel nor a terrorist, and I have no idea whatsoever as to the contents of the (extrajudicial confession). I am actually a nursing student who just happened to be in the... compound when authorities rounded us up, “imprisoned us,” Alimudin said in a manifestation filed with the DoJ Monday.

Alimudin accused State Prosecutor Romeo S. Senson of “forcibly” making him sign a statement on Oct. 28, 2005, owning up to the bombing of SuperFerry 14 on Manila Bay.

He said he was not allowed to read his supposed confession, nor was he provided with a lawyer of his choice.
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Bashir to be sprung next week
An Indonesian militant cleric imprisoned in connection with the 2002 Bali bombings will return home after his release next week so that he can resume his teachings at the infamous Ngruki school, his lawyer said.

Abu Bakar Ba'asyir, the alleged spiritual leader of the al-Qaeda-linked militant group Jamaah Islamiyah, helped found the boarding school in Central Java province more than three decades ago. Many of Indonesia's convicted terrorists attended theschool.

Ba'asyir, who has denied any involvement in militant acts, will be freed on June 14 after completing 26 months of his 30-month sentence for conspiracy in the Bali nightclub blasts that killed 202 people, many of them foreign tourists, governmentofficials said Monday.

Several months were cut from his sentence for good behavior. Bashir plans to return to Solo, a town 400 kilometers east of the capital Jakarta, so he "can get medical attention and teach again at Ngruki," his lawyer, Mahendradata, told The Associated Press.

Mahendradata said he hoped the government would not bow to foreign pressure by finding another reason to keep the 68-year-old cleric behind bars.

Australia, which lost 88 citizens in the Bali blasts, has said repeatedly in the past that the original sentence was too short, and U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld will be meeting with Indonesia's president and top security chiefs later Tuesday.

It was not clear if Bashir would be on the agenda.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/06/2006 00:32 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  time for some WET WORKS!
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 12:25 Comments || Top||


Bwahaha: Poverty in Thailand Blamed for Unrest in Muslim South
Posted by: DanNY || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah sure, you betcha. The last figure I saw said that rubber production in the south of Thailand is down 6% as a direct result of Islamist attacks on plantation workers. They regularly bomb shops, cafes, teachers, doctors, and cops. The entire Thai middle class. The government responds by increasing funding to madrassas and dropping origami cranes from their military planes.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/06/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Carpet bomb them with little white paper doves. That should sort them out.
*whisper whisper*
Oh!
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 06/06/2006 20:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Whever fundomuslims tread, poverty follows.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:22 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
U.S. to give Iran nuclear technology
A package of incentives presented Tuesday to Iran includes a provision for the United States to supply Tehran with some nuclear technology if it stops enriching uranium — a major concession by Washington, diplomats said.

The offer was part of a series of rewards offered to Tehran by European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, according to the diplomats, who were familiar with the proposals and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were disclosing confidential details of the offer.

The package was agreed on last week by the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia — the five veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council, plus Germany, in a bid to resolve the nuclear standoff with Ira
Posted by: tipper || 06/06/2006 14:35 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I got $20 that says they still will turn it down.

Short the whole world agreeing to either pay Dimni dues or straight up convert the Iranians are solid in thier path to waking up the 12th imam by way of war.
Posted by: C-Low || 06/06/2006 15:11 Comments || Top||

#2  There's giving nuclear technology and then there's GIVING nuclear technology
Posted by: kelly || 06/06/2006 15:44 Comments || Top||

#3  One warhead at a time? Or time-on-target?
Posted by: mojo || 06/06/2006 16:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Is't this what Clintoon did with the Norks? It seems more and more like the administration has been infested by pod-people.
Posted by: SR-71 || 06/06/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

#5  They can't do much with light water reactors.
The plutonium produced is not readily usable (has too much Pu 241 in it) and they lack the reprocessing capacity anyway.

What needs to be stopped is the centrifuge program and the heavy water reactor.
Posted by: john || 06/06/2006 17:00 Comments || Top||

#6  This is like one of those bad dreams you have after a fifth of Jim Beam and a couple of bad sausages.


Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 17:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Jim, we tolja not to eat them damn sausages.
Posted by: GK || 06/06/2006 17:08 Comments || Top||

#8  It won't matter what tribute is offered, it will be rejected. The same is true for the other side. No matter what the US concedes, the Euros, Russia, China will not agree to any action. All it does is create more delays to make more HEU.

The options are to attack and drive the Persians into the stone age, see the Arabs become a Persian hegemony, or leave and let the Euros and Russians (and Israelis) deal with it or live with the threat of nuclear attack. I'm torn, since I see opportunities in each course of action.
Posted by: ed || 06/06/2006 17:12 Comments || Top||

#9  I wouldn't be so sure they will reject this. This might be an opportunity to do exactly what the Norks did. Accept long enough to get the "goods" and then change your mind.

The Norks did a good job of showing the world how to get massive amounts of free sh!t from the U.S.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/06/2006 17:40 Comments || Top||

#10  Bolton commented that you can't believe everything you're hearing from the European press who have no better access to the "package" than we do.

Personally, I don't believe Bush will pull a Clinton.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/06/2006 19:28 Comments || Top||

#11  My guess is we give them the technology and they continue their program in secret after "giving up" some of their sites while hiding others. Hell, it worked before, and Americans are so naive it's almost hilarious. I feel I could shout this from the rooftops and just get told to shut up. I've been there and done that. People over in that part of the world think the world goes to the last man standing. And they're probably right in a way. Too bad there's nothing left for that one man to inherit.
Posted by: grb || 06/06/2006 19:55 Comments || Top||

#12  This smacks of appeasement reminiscent of the darkest days of Byzantium when the barbarians were at the gates, but internal divisions had weakened the state to the point that the politicians had no choice but to offer tribute in the hopes that the problem at hand would go away.
Posted by: WITT || 06/06/2006 21:47 Comments || Top||

#13  What Washington wants and will accept, however grudgingly, is for Radical Iran to publicly accept limits in numbers and types of centrifuges coupled with annual or more unlimited-access UN inspections. DUBYA WILL NOT ACCEPT MOUD'S WORD ONLY. Remember, the USA accepted and supported pre-Radical Iran's right to dev peaceful nuclear energy vv the days of the Shah. IFF IRAN DOES NOT ACCEPT UNLIMITED-ACCESS UN INSPECTIONS ANDOR UN INSPECTIONS WHERE US PERSONNEL ARE INCLUDED, WAR WILL BE LIKELY. I doubt Dubya and Bolton will give Iran the many many chances Billary gave to Saddam. SPENGEL, vv ASIATIMES.com, believes the US/West will attack Iran regardless, and as soon as near to end-of-year 2006.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/06/2006 22:22 Comments || Top||

#14  I think that Joe is onto something here. The US is giving light water reactor tech in exchange for full inspections, anywhere, anytime. Iran will reject this as out of hand. This offer is a total waste of time, but a sorta necessary waste of time. It's a slow cornering of Iran. I hope that it works, but we better be prepositioning and doing target planning. It will eventually wind down to that. Iran has made some serious threats. The EUniks may dismiss them and float down Denial, but Israel cannot dismiss them, and neither can the US.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 06/06/2006 23:08 Comments || Top||


US Official Warns Iran from Ankara
Posted by: DanNY || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Any relation to RUSSIAN officios blaming American-controlled insurgents or elements for the recent kidnapping of Russian diplomats in Iraq, or CHINA blaming America for causing 40 mostly important people to die in a plane crash???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/06/2006 2:29 Comments || Top||

#2  They're luck we have some level headed, patient people in our govt. I would have simply vaporized every facility that I even suspected had anything to do with this issue. Take the international condemnation for a few days and flip them all the bird. While the world secretly breathes a sigh of relief that these lunatics are out of business.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||


Lavrov: Military Intervention Against Iran Prohibited
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said possible military intervention against Iran was forbidden according to the agreement signed in Vienna last week.

Making a statement to Nezavisimaya newspaper, Lavrov said they reached a consensus during the meeting, to which foreign ministers of important countries in the world participated, on going to Iran with serious suggestions in Vienna.

Sergei Lavrov noted that they have taken some very serious decisions in order to start the negotiations about the problems concerning suspending Iran’s uranium enrichment activities in the frame of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) decision.

Posted by: DanNY || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Holy heck we have given up already? I have a hard time buying into such a "concept" that if it becomes required we will not use arms to impose and inforce sanctions.

Of course expect Farnce, Russia and Germany to get on the sanctions gravy train ala Iraq at the earliest date possible.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/06/2006 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  No, my readings of the Vienna agreement as released over the Net says non-intervention is binding only iff Iran formally overtly agrees to give up nuclear weapons and allows international inspections to verify same, lest sanctions be imposed. Remember, for Sanctions to work IRAN, ESPEC AS A UNO MEMBER-STATE, MUST FORMALLY AGREE, LIKE SADDAM DID, TO ACCEPT OR SUBMIT TO SAID SANCTIONS - OTHERWISE, FAILURE BY IRAN TO DO SO BY DEFINITION RISKS REFERRAL TO THE UNSC AT ANY TIME(S) FOR MIL ACTION [e.g. KOREAN WAR 1]. Iran and Moud-Mullahs cannot say Yes = No - Saddam PC bitched about it but still PUBLICLY/OFFICIALLY accepted it for his Iraq. IRAN MUST DO THE SAME. This is Dubya, Cheney, and Rummy now, NOT Clinton and Monica and a few bombs over Kosovo.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/06/2006 0:37 Comments || Top||

#3  I got just one monkey wrench to throw in your gears Sergei old boy.

ISRAEL....
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 11:34 Comments || Top||

#4  The Russians will enjoy being under Iranian nuke missiles. Have fun trying to keep all that territory you stole from the muslims.
Posted by: ed || 06/06/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#5  I am tired of all this talking. What is needed is to bring very bright suns to shine on Iran.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Key word for dealing with Russkies: nyekulturny
Say it like you mean it, and roll that "R" hard.

Means "uncultured", and drives 'em nuts.
Posted by: mojo || 06/06/2006 16:29 Comments || Top||

#7  mojo: Key word for dealing with Russkies: nyekulturny
Say it like you mean it, and roll that "R" hard.


heh! mojo, key this


nimokolizardboy

LOL!
Posted by: RD || 06/06/2006 19:13 Comments || Top||


Solana to Submit Proposal to Iran
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said yesterday the Islamic republic’s leadership would examine an international proposal aimed at resolving a crisis over their disputed nuclear program. Speaking at Tehran’s Mehrabad airport, where he was awaiting the arrival of European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, Mottaki said a deal was possible but only if Iran’s “demands” were met. “If their aim is not to politicize the issue and if they take our demands into consideration, we can reach a reasonable agreement,” Mottaki told reporters.

Mottaki said Solana would hand the proposal — drawn up by Britain, France and Germany, and backed by the United States, Russia and China — to top Iranian national security official Ali Larijani today. “Tomorrow, Solana will meet Larijani and present the proposal to him. We will examine this proposal and give our reply after the end of the defined period,” Mottaki said, without saying how long Iran had been given to respond. A diplomatic source said Solana may also meet President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has repeatedly rejected demands to halt enrichment — at the center of fears the country could make nuclear weapons.
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Iran should be wary of enemies’ divisive plots: Rafsanjani
The Iranian government and nation must not allow the enemies to damage their unity and solidarity, Expediency Council Chairman Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said in Qom on Monday. In a speech marking the anniversary of the Khordad 15 uprising of 1963, Rafsanjani called the 1979 Islamic Revolution a great national asset. “We should try to protect this asset and thwart the plots of the enemies by maintaining unity,” he added.

He underlined the key roles played by the city of Qom, seminaries, and marja’ taqlids (sources of emulation) in helping the Islamic Revolution attain victory. “Imam Khomeini stood up to the monarchy, trusting in God and relying on the help of the people of Qom and its seminaries,” he noted. He also expressed hope that the people of Qom would always uphold the ideals of the late Imam Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution.
Posted by: Fred || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks for the tip on the importance of Qom. Do we have the target coordinates ? Ah yes, thought so.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/06/2006 2:23 Comments || Top||

#2  I picture Rafi has patches on the elbows of his thobe. Got kind of a Father Knows Best thing going on.
Posted by: flyover || 06/06/2006 3:28 Comments || Top||

#3  No, it is a great asset to the clerics, not the Iranian people.
Your country is worse off than it was in 1970. Your stock market is down, your oil production keeps getting smaller instead of bigger. All the while you become more dependent on the ouside world for all your needs.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/06/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#4  All the while you become more dependent on the ouside world for all your needs.

And keep pushing that envelope. Push hard and fast enough and you risk finding yourself, quite suddenly, right outside of it.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Carter should have removed Qom from the planet when the hostage crisis began.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Carter had neither the balls nor the inclination - he loves Islam
Posted by: Frank G || 06/06/2006 23:16 Comments || Top||

#7  And all these years I thought he was looking for an excuse to sniff the roses in the whitehouse garden instead of working.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 23:28 Comments || Top||


Iran holds talks with Pakistan, Afghanistan to curb bandidos
Iran has held serious talks with Afghan and Pakistani officials on promoting security and curbing banditry in the southeastern region of the country, Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki said on Saturday. “During the recent visit of (Afghan President Hamid) Karzai to Iran, my recent trip to Afghanistan, and also (Iranian) vice-president’s visit to Pakistan serious talks were conducted on issues related to eastern country and the grounds have been prepared to combat such new conspiracies,” Mottaki told reporters on the sidelines of a seminar on Foreign Policy in Imam Khomeini’s View.

He also expressed hope that Iran would be successful in exchanging information with the two neighboring countries and supervising regional developments. A shadowy militant group calling itself Jundallah has been behind a string of armed bloody incidents along Iran's borders with Afghanistan and Pakistan. The group is believed to be based across the border in southwestern Afghanistan.
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Iran threat to supplies triggers a steep rise in oil price
OIL prices jumped again yesterday after a threat by Iran to disrupt crude supplies to the West triggered a renewed bout of nervousness in energy markets.
The sabre-rattling comments by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s Supreme Leader, at a rally in Tehran on Sunday, helped to drive US light crude prices up by a further 77 cents in afternoon trading in London, on the back of steep gains of $1.99 on Friday. Yesterday’s continued price rises pushed the cost of a barrel of US light crude back above $73 a barrel, while benchmark London Brent added a further 98 cents to $72.01 a barrel.

Ayatollah Khamenei’s remarks dealt a blow to hopes for a compromise between Iran and the West over its nuclear programme, coming just days before today’s presentation of Western negotiating proposals to Tehran by Javier Solana, the European Union’s foreign policy chief. “If you make any mistake, definitely shipment of energy from this region will be jeopardised. You have to know this,” the ayatollah said.
Posted by: Fred || 06/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  killing the goose that lays their golden eggs. It's all they've ever produced in thousands of years - and then of course - western civilization had to do it for them. Apparently they want us to develop alternative fuels even faster. We're moving on. See ya.
Posted by: 2b || 06/06/2006 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  We must switch to alternate fuels. It is too dangerous to be tied to the fucking middle east.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/06/2006 1:38 Comments || Top||

#3  The Middle East - et al, suddenly decides they need "alternative fuel". Riiiight.

Offer 'em solar. Lots of big wind deserts. Lots of sun. Offer 'em wind. Lots of big, wide deserts.

Sitting on a fortune. These sweet princes of the desert. Seeking nuclear weapons - the biggest, bestest gun sex ever. Allah will make sure the last guy is muslim. And that's all that counts.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 06/06/2006 22:47 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
US Knew About Arafat's Key Role in Diplomats' Murders
(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. government was aware from the outset of Yasser Arafat's hand in the 1973 murder of two American diplomats in Sudan, according to a formerly secret document released Monday by the State Department.

"The Khartoum operation was planned and carried out with the full knowledge and personal approval of Yasser Arafat," said an official U.S. intelligence memorandum dated June 1973. It added that representatives of Fatah, Arafat's faction of the PLO, "participated in the attack, using a Fatah vehicle to transport the terrorists to the Saudi Arabian Embassy."

The Saudi Embassy in Khartoum was where Palestinian terrorists murdered U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel and U.S. charge d'affaires George Curtis Moore, along with a Belgian diplomat, Guy Eid, on March 2, 1973. The eight terrorists had seized the diplomats during an embassy function, demanding the release of jailed Palestinian terrorists, including Fatah's Abu Daoud, who planned the attack on Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics the previous year and was in prison in Jordan; and Sirhan Sirhan, Senator Robert Kennedy's assassin, imprisoned in California.
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Posted by: Steve || 06/06/2006 09:03 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Woder if he's at the big 6/6/6 party in hell?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/06/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Why again are we supposed to care about Sudan?
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/06/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#3  The heirs of Alger Hiss strike again.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/06/2006 17:30 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Pat Dollard's Iraq Trailer
Go watch this trailer. It is about Marines in Iraq, and what they think about many of their 'peers'. A slice of Iraq. I found this at Roger Simon's blog.

It resonates strongly with me. I am an RVN infantry vet, 173rd Abn, and still have a hard time understanding most of my peers. Not sure his trailer will make it past a web site posting for Dollard, but it is worth looking at. Shades of grouchy.

Go see the trailer. You will need Quicktime. The site is not very fast (it was not for me anyway) so be patient.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 06/06/2006 18:25 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That was some awesome footage.

Refresh my memory: did that clip where the "Minutemen" shoot three bound and blindfolded men in the back make it into "Farenheit 911"?

Posted by: Matt || 06/06/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||



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