[LATimes] Just more than a week after tiny Los Alamitos voted to defy California's law protecting immigrants in the country illegally, Orange County is poised to become a counterpoint against the state's resistance to the Trump administration's policies.
On Tuesday, Orange County supervisors may consider whether to take up a resolution to condemn and possibly take legal action against the state's "sanctuary" laws.
"These state laws are preempted by federal law," Orange County Supervisor Shawn Nelson said. "Our officers actually face penalties under state law if they so much as talk to federal agents for the wrong thing. That's just unacceptable and it's contrary to federal law."
Nelson said he'll broach in closed session whether to join a federal lawsuit against the state or launch its own litigation. When your own sheriffs tell you that the plan is stupid... they aren't racist. Just logical.
Other cities in the county, including Yorba Linda, Buena Park, Huntington Beach and Mission Viejo are also starting to take action to voice their grievances against the state's sanctuary laws aimed at protecting immigrants from President Trump's immigration crackdown.
On Monday, Texas and more than a dozen other states led by Republican governors got behind the Trump administration and filed an amicus brief in support of a lawsuit against California's sanctuary laws.
Nelson jumped onboard of a resolution initially brought on by Orange County Supervisor Michelle Steel that would condemn the state's sanctuary laws. She later added wording that would direct the county's public counsel to take legal action.
"We cannot allow this to happen in Orange County and we need to protect our families and our homes here in Orange County," she said. "And that means bolstering our cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and stopping our county from becoming a sanctuary for criminal illegal immigrants."
Once a conservative and Republican stronghold, Orange County has undergone stark demographic shifts. In 2016, Hillary Clinton defeated Trump in the county, which a Democrat hadn't won in a presidential election since the Great Depression.
The issue of illegal immigration and sanctuary laws has been highly divisive in Orange County.
Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens, along with other California sheriffs, spoke out in opposition to the law, SB 54. On Monday, Hutchens made inmate release dates ‐ including for those in the country illegally ‐ public in response to the state law.
"We have an obligation to safeguard our community and we will use every tool available to help hold criminals accountable," said Orange County Undersheriff Don Barnes. "Our inability to relinquish these individuals to the custody of ICE causes them to be returned to the communities which they prey upon."
From Jan. 1 to March 19, the agency released 172 inmates in the country illegally into the community because state law prohibited authorities from notifying ICE, said Carrie Braun, a spokeswoman for the Sheriff's Department. It's unclear if any of those people ‐ whose convictions include domestic violence, theft, driving under the influence and criminal threats ‐ have recidivated.
Orange County gave birth to Proposition 187, a ballot initiative approved by voters that sought to deny public services such as public schooling and healthcare to people in the country illegally; the measure was eventually struck down in the courts. And Costa Mesa passed anti-day laborer ordinances and became the epicenter of the anti-illegal immigration movement during the mid-2000s.
Since then, however, much of the county's anti-illegal immigration fervor has eased after many of its cities experienced an influx of Latino and Asian immigrants.
But the anti-sanctuary momentum gaining ground in Orange County shows that it remains a place with a very conservative core.
SB 54, which Gov. Jerry Brown signed after the Legislature passed it last year, prohibits state and local police agencies from notifying federal officials in many cases when immigrants potentially subject to deportation are about to be released from custody.
The Trump administration went to federal court to invalidate the state laws, contending they blatantly obstruct federal immigration law and thus violate the Constitution's supremacy clause, which gives federal law precedence over state measures. That case is pending.
Legal costs is one of the reasons Yorba Linda Mayor Gene Hernandez said the city has not done what Los Alamitos did.
Instead, the city voted to send a supporting amicus brief to the federal lawsuit. The city's decision was prompted by a request from the national field director of Federation for American Immigration Reform, an anti-illegal immigration and immigration restrictionist group in Washington, D.C., known as FAIR. Also from Orange County the Sheriff makes the release date of prisoners public
The Orange County Sheriff's Department, whose leadership opposes the new California sanctuary law that limits cooperation with federal immigration officials, announced Monday that it is now providing public information on when inmates are released from custody.
As of Monday, March 26, an existing "Who's in Jail" online database includes the date and time of inmates' release – a move agency officials say will enhance communication with its law enforcement partners.
The release date information applies to all inmates, not just those who are suspected of being in the country illegally. But the goal is to assist agents with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE.
"This is in response to SB-54 limiting our ability to communicate with federal authorities and our concern that criminals are being released to the street when there's another avenue to safeguard the community by handing them over (to ICE for potential deportation)," Orange County Undersheriff Don Barnes said. The thing that gets me is that the illegals in prison aren't nice. They are criminals and will criminal again on release. Why not deport them and keep the good working ones in the community if you are for open borders?!?! It makes no sense unless your goal is to completely destabilize the community so that the government has to step in and take complete control of things. Right?
#1
Orange County used to be synonymous with conservative. It's nice to hear there are a few of them still left. Yorba Linda was the birthplace and early childhood home of Richard Nixon. His family moved to Whittier, not too far away in Los Angeles County but even so it's light years from Hollywood. I don't know if stark is a strong enough word for the demographic shift. Biblical might be more like it, all orchestrated by crooked politicians like Jerry Brown, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and George W. Bush. Orange County is one of the many reasons why I keep saying you can't just blame all Californians for the lunatics in San Francisco, Hollywood, Berkeley and Sacramento.
Posted by: Abu Uluque ||
03/27/2018 11:05 Comments ||
Top||
#2
If the State can ignore Federal laws it doesn't like why can't the cities and counties ignore State laws they don't like? This is the argument South Carolina used to ignore Federal laws before secession.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
03/27/2018 11:09 Comments ||
Top||
#3
It's nice to hear there are a few of them still left.
#4
It makes no sense unless your goal is to completely destabilize the community so that the government has to step in and take complete control of things. Right?
Of course those plans never seems to involve a Franco or Pinochet doing the controlling when its all over.
#6
John Wayne lived in Newport Beach which is in Orange County. Even then I guess Hollywood was a bit much for him.
Posted by: Abu Uluque ||
03/27/2018 17:58 Comments ||
Top||
#7
Not all Californians fit your stereotype. I'm even a Gubbamint Lackey. Yet, I belong to the NRA, donate to Conservative Republicans and causes, and *cough* might 0wn guns *cough*. Lifetime San Diego resident, and I support LEGAL Immigration, not ILLEGAL ALIENS
Posted by: Frank G ||
03/27/2018 19:32 Comments ||
Top||
#8
I grew up got older living 6 miles north of Tijuana, where mass groups would dash across, overwhelming BP. The San Diego Sector fence has been a brilliant success
Posted by: Frank G ||
03/27/2018 19:38 Comments ||
Top||
#9
Frank G. Over the years you have become one of my outposts of hope in California.
[Townhall] Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL) and Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) on Monday introduced a bicameral piece of legislation, known as the Ammunition Background Check Act of 2018, that would require background checks for anyone wanting to purchase ammunition.
According to Wasserman-Schultz's office, the legislation would "close a loophole" that allows "criminals, domestic abusers, and dangerously mentally ill individuals" from purchasing ammo.
If passed, the legislation would require ammo purchases to undergo a background check through the National Instant Background Check System (NICS), the same system that is used to conduct background checks for firearms purchases.
Every retailer who sells ammo would be required to conduct a background check system through the NICS system, which isn't a problem for most gun stores who are federal firearms licensees (FFLs). The potential issue would be from stores who sell ammunition but not firearms and do not possess an FFL. They would either have to partner with an FFL to conduct the background checks or they would have to go through the process to become an FFL.
[PowderedWigSociety] Asheville, North Carolina is beautiful southern town in the mountains of western North Carolina. It is also a bastian of liberal idealogy, maybe not quite as extreme as Berkeley, California, but not far behind either.
So, how does one get elected to office in Asheville? By being a flaming liberal, that’s how.
Listen to this brain-dead Democrat, Daryl Fisher, who is running for sheriff of Buncombe County, the seat and heart of which is liberal-dominated Asheville, as he suggests killing law-abiding citizens to take their guns from their "cold, dead hands."
"You’ve heard people say ’you’ll have to pry my gun from my cold, dead hands,'" Fisher told his adoring liberal audience.
He then shrugged, and said, "OK!" declaring that in his opinion it is fine for law enforcement to kill citizens to confiscate their firearms.
So pleased with himself at his audience’s applause, Fisher continued, "Uh, whenever you pass away we’ll come get it, I don’t know. I’m saying. Joking just a little bit there."
"Joking just a little bit?" The twitterstorm his outrageous comment inspired made it clear that very few real Americans appreciate his joke, and the fact that he admitted that he was "joking just a little bit" proves that he was serious A LOT!
I’m not sure which is worse, the fact that this moron made the statement or the fact that so many people applauded it.
The shame is this guy, running as a Democrat, has a very good chance of being the next Sheriff of Buncombe County. You may want to consider that and be sure to steer clear of that area if it happens to be along your route to a travel destination.
#1
Pure bunkum from the source of that word. Wiktionary: From buncombe, from “speaking to (or for) Buncombe County, North Carolina”, a county in North Carolina named for Edward Buncombe. In 1820, Felix Walker, who represented the county in the U.S. House of Representatives, rose to address the question of admitting Missouri as a free or slave state, his first attempt to speak on the subject after nearly a month of solid debate, right before the vote was to be called. To the exasperation of colleagues, he began a long and wearisome speech, explaining that he was speaking not to Congress but "to Buncombe."[1] He was ultimately shouted down by his colleagues,[2] though his speech was published in a Washington paper[3] and his persistence made "buncombe" (later respelled "bunkum") a synonym for meaningless political claptrap and later for any kind of nonsense,[1] at first only in the jargon of Washington and then in common usage
#3
Being a good liberal, he won't be out doing the confiscation. He'll send willing dupes (deputies) to do the all that icky, dangerous stuff. Leading from the rear, ya know.
[CBSNews] Excerpt: "DAVID HOGG: On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and road as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting." Hasn't the drill been that he was there for the carnage?
Categorized under "Politics" as that is what this is.
Yes, it is, though Home Front: Culture War would have been equally valid.
#2
Many more die from drugs. No comparison. Marlboro is making big push with marijuana cigarettes for some time now in Europe. Huge investments here now. No media attacks. No negative news. Politically connected are in on this game just as they did with solar power with Tip O'Neil with his son. Wind power I'd bet also. They know where the money goes.
#3
Remember, to the Left, "authentic" means exactly the opposite of what it actually means.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
03/27/2018 8:26 Comments ||
Top||
#4
David Hogg is as much a "survivor" of the Parkland shootings as the Coward County deputy who hid outside during the shootings. Hogg was in a different building.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia ||
03/27/2018 9:30 Comments ||
Top||
#6
When I was young we didn't have all these laws and regulations. The results seem to be everything has gotten worse. The core of it seems that the family is being destroyed. The village can't raise a child.
#7
On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and road as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting."
Let me get this straight. Assuming his recording of crawling around and hush asking questions in a classroom under lockdown was not pre-recorded...
He was home either playing hooky or school punishment because a sick person could not make the odyssey of:
Receiving notice of a school shooting. Making a snap decision to go get footage. Riding a bike 3 miles through traffic, incoming EMTs, outgoing Sheriff Deputies, through out-of-county LEOs moving toward shooting, and into a classroom, and getting footage while still under lockdown; as in classroom door is locked and do not open at all for any reason.
All in 15 minutes or so.
I don't think straw boy could make that trip in time with a Boward County Sports Patrol Vehicle, but a bicycle? Looks like he would cramp up using chop stick.
And all this, because it could not be a mass shooting?
This is why I wanted Moar Hogg. Between this and his horrible, wonderful, golden Olde People rant, all these childrens come off as not crises actors, but unabashed failed child actors unqualified to be extras in the remake of E.T. the Emigrant Terrestrial.
#9
Steve King just opined that if you don't think guns are appropriate for 18 year olds, maybe voting isn't either. The response from our wet-behind-the-ears betters is deliciously predictable.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
03/27/2018 16:11 Comments ||
Top||
Posted by: Frank G ||
03/27/2018 16:49 Comments ||
Top||
#12
swks - Completely share your general skepticism, but I gotta disagree re feasibility of the Midday Ride. Wouldn't be crazy about doing it amidst responder traffic, especially on a fixie (just guessing), but it's totally doable, speedwise. I used to trundle crosstown in tropical weather on a POS gaspipe bike with 20-30 lb in a basket up front. Could've dumped half my stuff, set Hoggie in there, and made the 3 miles with minutes to spare.
#13
I got into trouble on Facebook the other day. Somebody posted a picture of Hogg doing the Nazi salute, and commented "Sieg Heil!". Apparently that violate Facebook's community standards or something.
So apparently you can use all kinds of profanity, say you support Louis Farrakhan, anything. But not the German words for Hail, Victory
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia ||
03/27/2018 18:29 Comments ||
Top||
#14
I think if you typed "whoremonger" under a picture of Trump, farcebook would be just fine with that. I'm reading now that some of the little darlings are not happy about being commented upon negatively, and some reporters are shocked, shocked that such a thing is happening.
I mean, nothing like that has ever happened to a public figure ever before...
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
03/27/2018 19:11 Comments ||
Top||
#15
SP7469, totally agree and do-able, had my time urban biking. I'm just saying the only thing Hogg has in common with Lance Armstrong is the lack of balls.
I remember his shtick was he was in a classroom interviewing students using video. To get into a classroom before evac would be some likity split thinking and moving. Likely he meant something like 'after I got home, I got my camera...'
In which case he could move at the leisurely pace of a vulture so he could carpe corpses.
Camera, what teenager today says camera? Sounds like something his old ass parents would say.
#16
Re "camera," these are some media-savvy little monsters. I'm just now catching up with the March, working back toward the shooting, and YT "recommended" this clip of Garth's girlfriend at her day job:
I'm guessing the rest are wall to wall Glee types, temperamentally and politically, too?
#8
I did read the article. Mostly ginned up internet outrage and deliberate misunderstanding from the usual suspects. The gentleman's actual statement pretty much coincides with the comments here.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
[LATimes] Just more than a week after tiny Los Alamitos voted to defy California's law protecting immigrants in the country illegally, Orange County is poised to become a counterpoint against the state's resistance to the Trump administration's policies.
