How would Americans feel if they knew the Obama administration just agreed to hand people affiliated with a designated terrorist group a $30 billion dollar check and recognize them as the legitimate rulers of Libya?
Things werent looking so good for the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group back in 2004 when they were designated a foreign terrorist group by the State Department. In chilling testimony, then-CIA Director George Tenet warned the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 that even if Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda was completely destroyed, a global network of Islamic extremists bent on killing Americans had emerged. Tenet listed the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) as one of those groups.
In 2007, the LIFG formally joined al-Qaeda, an event so well documented that even Reuters covered it. Its goals, which it is now close to achieving thanks to airpower help from President Obama and NATO, include killing Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, setting up an Islamic caliphate in Libya and waging international jihad.
The known leaders of the Libyan rebel forces on the ground are all former LIFG fighters, some with documented personal connections to al-Qaeda. The Transitional National Council, which the Obama administration recognized last week as the official government of Libya, is packed with pro-LIFG activists, lawyers who have advocated for imprisoned LIFG fighters, and Islamic scholars from LIFG strongholds.
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Does that mean our military(United States)and old people don't get their social security checks now. Lets keep giving the IMF our cash also even though they are all sitting on thousands of tons of gold bullion. All their news conferences and press releases and all their b.s. meetings do they know how stupid most people see them? Our leaders are pathetic!
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Don't worry UBF we still hold the patent for the Phish Carbuerator and know where the PG&E bonds are, I advise you to buy chromium, nao, put it in a corner of your safe house up in the hills.
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But Norway has no death penalty. Norwegian law can't even keep this murderous thug in jail for more than 21 years. Since the killer apparently dreams of starting a Knights Templar war against Islam and cultural Marxism, Norway's PC justice system will give him 21 years to write his manifesto while recruiting alienated skinheads for his cause.
I have been privileged to visit Oslo and to have know a Norwegian clan for 20 years. In one wine enhanced after dinner conversation with one of the tribe, my Norwegian friend said his biggest problem with America was its acceptance of the death penalty.
OK, he was a Theology student, so not much different than having the same conversation with a parish priest- "No government can play the roll of God" vs my Texas sun baked argument that rabid dogs can't be allowed at the church picnic- some people just need killin'.
After an appropriate amount of time, and a couple of bottles of wine, I intend to ask him if he still feels the same way in light of this tragedy.
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Capsu78 "In one wine enhanced after dinner conversation" I have heard this sort of thing before. This was a very happy socialist country. Everything they have done in oil, fishing, cruse lines are booming. They have the lowest crime rate in twenty years. Rape is the only crime that has increased. Women go out in pares now. They frown on smoking and frown on drinking. Most of my relatives would bristle at the thought of drinking. In two weeks I will meet several at our family reunion. This all will be downplayed. Socialism is king there. They have put God in the back seat of the bus. What will they do? more of the same. This side of my family I can say I know of one true constant, drinking is not allowed nor for their children. They are downright harsh about it. This will be a dry reunion guaranteed.
Just to speak of Norwegian Glogg I got lectured.
[Dawn] As India moots the idea of regular direct contact among police chiefs of South Asian Association for Regional Co-operation (SAARC) nations to fight terrorism and other trans-national crime in Thimphu on Friday, two studies on extremism in India have uncovered several loopholes in the way the systems function and a lacunae between accountability, human rights ...which are usually entirely different from personal liberty... and justice delivering mechanisms.
An evaluation of two in-depth studies, one carried out by the Indian government and the other by an international human rights organization, sheds light on the reasons why justice has always evaded victims of terror attacks in India and why extremism has managed to flourish in other parts of the country.
Series of terror attacks
In several interesting revelations in a February 2011 report titled 'The "Anti-Nationals": Arbitrary Detention and Torture of Terrorism Suspects in India' by New York-based organization Human Rights Watch ... dedicated to bitching about human rights violations around the world... , cases of illegal detentions have plagued India after every terror attack since 2001.
Since 2001, there have been 18 terror attacks in India, with Mumbai's July 11, 2006 attacks leading the corpse count with 209 dead and over 700 injured. Since 2001, the numbers of people killed in these attacks amount to 715 while1, 940 have sustained injuries.
In all these attacks, hundreds of suspects were picked up and interrogated, 108 were charged, dozens of arrest warrants were issued but inexplicably, there were a dismal number of convictions in these cases.
The Human Rights Watch found credible evidence that state police units investigating the attacks engaged in widespread and serious abuses of suspects' rights, such as arbitrary arrest and detention, torture, and other ill-treatment, including threats against suspects and their relatives.
Indian authorities have long blamed attacks within the country on thug organizations based in neighbouring Pakistain and Bangladesh, the report stated. The report focuses on torture and other abuses committed by the police against alleged Mohammedan thugs. But the Indian security forces have long applied similar, unlawful methods against members of other groups deemed a security threat, according to this report. These include Maoist rebels known as Naxalites in much of the central and eastern areas of the country, parties to the conflict in Jammu and Kashmire, and Hindu Islamic fascistiaccused by the home minister of "saffron terror".
The Human Rights Watch interviewed more than 160 people in India, including the relatives and lawyers of more than 35 suspects in the 2008 bombings, as well as five individuals who were subsequently released.
The researchers discovered that mistreatment of suspects jugged in connection with the 2008 bombings occurred at every stage of custody, from police lockups where many were tortured, to jails where they were beaten, to courthouses where magistrates often ignored their complaints. In a few cases, the relatives of suspects were even taken hostage by law enforcement agencies. Specialised police units were the worst offenders, particularly the Crime Branch of the Gujarat ...where rioting seems to be a traditional passtime... state police; the Maharashtra state Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS); the Uttar Pradesh state ATS; the Rajasthan state police and the ATS it formed after the bombings; and the Special Cell police in Delhi, the report stated.
In the past three years, the authorities also have tossed in the clink a number of alleged Hindu Islamic fascistifor attacks on civilians, focusing public attention on what has been controversially termed "saffron terror", at times, several years after blaming Islamic fundamentalist organizations and detaining individuals from the same community.
The authorities laid the responsibility of the attacks on the Indian Mujahadeen (IM) 10 times, on Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) seven times, on the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) five times, on Abhinav Bharat (AB) in four cases, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HuJI Founded in 1984 by Fazlur Rehman Khalil and Qari Saifullah Aktar. The Bangla branch was established in 1992 with assistance from Osama bin Laden. Recruits come mostly from Deobandi madrassahs. HuJI and Fazlur Rehman Khalil are signators of bin Laden's declaration of war on the west. ) in three cases, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) in two cases and ISI in one case.
In three instances, initially SIMI, LeT and JeM were booked but years later, members of AB were charged.
The report revealed that several Hindu suspects were charged or questioned only in late 2010 in connection with bombings at mosques in Hyderabad and Amjer in 2007, of a passenger train linking Pakistain to India in 2007, and of a Mohammedan cemetery in Malegaon in 2006. Those three attacks, initially blamed on Mohammedan thugs, together killed at least 115 people and injured nearly 350 others.
The Hindu suspects include members of groups such as Abhinav Bharat, which authorities have also linked to a second bombing in Malegaon in 2008 that killed six people. AB is allegedly affiliated with Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), which is widely considered the ideological fountainhead of Hindu nationalist movements. As of this writing, a ranking member of RSS was being questioned in the 2007 bombings, HRW researchers found.
Serving and retired army officers are also believed to be part of the group, with two men, retired Maj. Ramesh Upadhyay and Lt. Col. S.P. Purohit, implicated in the Malegaon blast of 2008. The Abhinav Bharat has also been linked to the 2007 bombing in Ajmer, site of a Sufi shrine. The Rajasthan police have filed charges against three alleged members and are investigating the role of several others, said HRW.
Investigators suspect that some members of the RSS may have been involved in these attacks. According to the charges filed by the Rajasthan police in the Ajmer case, several RSS leaders also allegedly attended a secret meeting where the conspiracy was planned. A front-organization called Jai Vande Mataram was started by one of the accused, Sunil Joshi, who was later killed.
Later, the Central Bureau of Investigation tossed in the clink Naba Kumar Sircar, a religious leader who uses the name Swami Aseemanand, in connection with the bombings at the Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad and the Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti shrine in Amjer. Other charges on him include the Samjhuata Express train attack, in 2007, as well as blasts in Malegaon and Modasa in 2008, and possibly the mosque blast in Malegaon in 2006. Aseemanand, who is also linked to Abhinav Bharat, was apparently a member of the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, another organization inspired by the RSS, the report stated.
The abuse
Some of the worst abuses documented by Human Rights Watch occurred in a lockup of the Ahmedabad Crime Branch of the Gujarat ...where rioting seems to be a traditional passtime... state police, where many detainees allege they were blindfolded and shackled with their arms crossed over their knees from morning to night, Sherlocks discovered.
In some states, police held suspects for days, or even weeks, with the police failing to register their arrest. Many suspects also allege that they were denied proper food and water. A few said they were tortured in secret interrogation centers or subjected to electric shocks. Mumbai attorney Amin Solkar told members of HRW that the signs of abuse were evident when he first visited some of those suspects after their arrests. "I could see the marks on them -- abrasions on the arms and back," he said. "One of them told me he lost his hearing after he was stripped naked, tied to a stick, and beaten."
According to the HRW document, the law enforcement authorities' main goal appeared to be to coerce suspects into confessing or naming other conspirators. Several suspects alleged that police made them sign blank sheets of paper or woke them up at night to make them repeat a fabricated version of events until they had memorised it. Nisar Ahmed of New Delhi said that his son Saqib Nisar was denied sleep until he memorised the police version of events: "When I asked my son if he was tortured, he said, 'They are hardly going to treat me with love. They want to build the case. They would not let me sleep. They used to make us memorise a story of the police version of the case. We were not allowed to sleep until we could recite the police version."
When relatives and lawyers eventually were able to meet suspects, police in some cases unlawfully remained within earshot, making `it difficult for the detainees to reveal abuse or seek counsel. "They did everything they could to make the environment as hostile as possible," Delhi attorney Jawahar Raja recalled, describing one visit. "A police officer would be sitting right next to us."
In cases where suspects have filed complaints of such abuse, the police units in question denied any ill-treatment, saying in court papers that, for example, they "meticulously followed" laws regarding custody and that suspects fabricated wrongdoing to dodge prosecution, discovered the members of HRW.
One ranking Delhi police official, speaking to Human Rights Watch on condition of anonymity, contended that his unit did not have to torture: "We did not have to use what we police call "rough treatment" because they all admitted to their crimes immediately. The words just flowed out of them. These are very young boys and they were extremely frightened. Some of them were crying. We felt sorry for them because they had been trapped."
Lawyers and relatives counter that the suspects were too frightened to complain about torture because they were being returned to extended custody of the very police who were perpetrating the abuse.
Secret torture centres and illegal detentions
In several cases, plainclothes police picked up suspects and yet, even with eyewitnesses present, did not register them as having been tossed in the clink for days or even weeks, putting them at particular risk of mistreatment.
Former suspects, relatives of suspects, and lawyers told Human Rights Watch that police held and tortured some detainees in secret interrogation centres. They alleged that detainees were blindfolded and held in stress positions during all their waking hours, beaten, subjected to electric shock, or denied food and water. Many said police forced detainees to make false confessions, at times making them repeat a fabricated version of events until they had memorised it.
In several instances reported to Human Rights Watch, the authorities threatened detainees into telling relatives they were guilty, or would deny them access to counsel and relatives. According to defence lawyers, at least a dozen suspects have withdrawn confessions they claim were false and obtained by force.
In Rajasthan, the state police, suspecting that the Pakistain-based thug Islamist group HuJI was behind the blasts there in May 2008, rounded up hundreds of Bengali-speaking Mohammedans for questioning. After police released them, state officials nevertheless razed their homes, claiming that their settlement was illegal. Many were forcibly put on trains or buses and expelled to West Bengal state, which borders Bangladesh. The police insisted that they were illegal Bangladeshi immigrants, although many of them said they had documents that proved their Indian citizenship. "Whenever there is trouble, the needle of suspicion points toward the minority," Mohamed Shafi Qureshi, chairman of India's National Commission for Minorities, told Human Rights Watch.
Lawyers under attack
Lawyers defending Mohammedan terrorism suspects also came under attack for being unpatriotic. After the 2008 bombings, several such lawyers were physically attacked or threatened by Hindu thugs, many of them fellow lawyers. In the high-profile case of Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving gunman from the 2008 Mumbai attack, one lawyer was threatened by mobs, another was removed from the board of a prestigious Mohammedan foundation, and a third received a death threat for representing the defendant. Two lawyers had to defy the local bar association to defend suspects in the 2010 Pune attack.
In February 2010, Shahid Azmi, who was representing a number of IM suspects as well as an Indian co-defendant in the Mumbai attack, was rubbed out by gunnies. Police have charged three alleged members of a Hindu criminal gang for the slaying.
Police counterterrorism Sherlocks, particularly in Ahmedabad and Delhi, routinely manipulated Indian law in order to detain 2008 bombing suspects well beyond the 15-day legal limit for police custody provided under Indian law -- in some cases for three to four months. This practice not only violated the right to liberty, it also vastly increased the risk of custodial torture and coerced confessions. "The most worrisome, the most vulnerable period is when suspects are in police custody," said Mukul Sinha, a Gujarat ...where rioting seems to be a traditional passtime... High Court attorney who handles high-profile human rights cases. "When the law tells you 15 days you can't artificially prolong it to 150 days."
The loopholes
The report elaborated that counterterrorism units cannot cross state boundaries. According to Ajit Doval, a former director of India's Intelligence Bureau, they "tend to focus their investigations on where the attack occurred and they stop their investigations where their jurisdiction ends."
The central government security apparatus is also outmoded. India still lacks a nationwide crime database, leaving state cop shoppes as "virtually unconnected islands," the country's Home Minister, P. Chidambaram, has conceded. In a country of more than 1.1 billion people, fewer than 500 officials from the National Intelligence Bureau specialise in terrorism, and fewer than 150 Coast Guard boats and aircraft guard 5,000 miles of shoreline. More than one year after the Mumbai attack, India's foreign intelligence agency, called the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), reportedly had little more than a dozen officer-grade employees with Pak language and area expertise.
"Unless you have good intelligence you have nothing. You are just groping in the dark," said Vikram Sood, former secretary of the RAW to HRW. "You are going to catch the wrong chaps, you are going to alienate the public, and you will create more Indian Mujahideen A locally recruited auxilliary of Pakistain's Lashkar-e-Taiba, designed to give a domestic patina to Pakistain's terror war against its bigger neighbor... ."
Another study from the Northeast and Naxal-hit states
Poor conviction rates are not just a problem pertaining to the kaboom cases all over India but also in the Northeastern region and the Naxal-affected states, a government study revealed.
In 'Social, Economic and Political Dynamics in Extremist Affected Areas', a study commissioned by the Ministry of Home Affairs and undertaken by the Centre for Development and Peace studies discovered that many states in the Northeast scores poorly as far as conviction rates of tossed in the clinkbeturbanned goons are concerned. The report acknowledges that beturbanned goons are released as a result of poor investigation processes, poor mechanisms for prosecution, as well as the tardiness and formalities of the judicial process.
The report elaborated that the military formation of the CPI-Maoist includes estimated 10,000 armed cadres, apart from a huge mass of 100,000 people's militia.
Extremist influence was visible over 50 odd districts in 2001, over the next decade such influence had been expanded to over 223 districts, the document revealed. At the root of such expansion lies the familiar tale of underdevelopment, mis-governance, lack of land reforms and a poorly trained police force. Barring Andhra Pradesh, where a police-led response was instrumental in the marginalisation of the military capacity of the thugs, leading to a noticeable reduction in extremism related fatalities, most of the other Naxal-hit states continue to hopelessly meander through the challenges posed by the thugs, the report stated.
Apart from Chhattisgarh, which is the epicentre of the conflict, Naxalite presence and activities were reported from 20 Indian states. Regular violence, however, has plagued seven states.
States affected by Left wing extremism are among the poorest and underdeveloped in the country, and also among the poorly governed, the government document stated.
The tribal population, particularly Chhattisgarh, Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and Jharkhand, inhabits areas affected by the thugs. Parts of West Bengal and Maharashtra where beturbanned goons are present too conform to this narrative. Paradoxically, the areas are mineral rich. Chhattisgarh, Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and Jharkhand account for approximately 85 per cent of India's coal resources. Exploitation of the natural resources remains crucial for the economic progress of the country. However, if you can't say something nice about a person some juicy gossip will go well... entry of the state and the private/public sector companies has also been source of tribal dissent, which has been exploited by the Naxals, the study revealed.
The report concedes that the state of land reforms through the Naxal dominated states has remained unsatisfactory. States are either not inclined to bring in land reforms or have delayed the process by not implementing recommendations of land reforms commissions set up by themselves. Andhra Pradesh is an example.
Losing land to "development"
A persistent complaint of the tribals losing land to the industrial units has been the uselessness of money given in return for their land. A bleak future awaits them once the money gets over. Due to the lack of education, only manual jobs can be given to them in the industrial units, where as the plum jobs go to the outsiders. This arrangement needs to change to make the land transfer process smoother and attractive.
Repeal AFSPA
Meanwhile in the Northeast the problem differs. The study, encompassing five Northeastern states and three states affected by Left Wing Extremism, is an attempt to fill the void. Leakage of developmental funds and extortion continues to be the major source of terror funding in the region according to the professionals and security officials interviewed by the experts.
Opposition to the draconian Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) continues to remain the major rallying point in states like Manipur. Agitations demanding its repeal have broken out every now and then which have its repercussions on the law and order, economy as well as educational sectors. It has also been a source of alienation among the people.
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The Human Rights Watch found credible evidence that state police units investigating the attacks engaged in widespread and serious abuses of suspects' rights, such as arbitrary arrest and detention, torture, and other ill-treatment, including threats against suspects and their relatives.
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