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"With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics."
Mikey, don't tease me like that!
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"With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics."
Oh, please. The screaming moonbat left will still support him. They have nowhere else to go for their power fix.
The LLL will ride the O-train all the way to it's guyana-esque ending, before they will willingly submit themselves to another term out in the cold again.
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Uncle Jimbo of Blackfive could not stand it, so he fisked the letter up royally.
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Ah, come on, Mikey. You'll go back for more and you'll love it....and you know it, you sick little twerp.
(I wouldn't pay ten cents to see any of his movies, but I'd give a few bucks to watch him blubber like a schoolgirl when he figures out Obama's just not that into him.)
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I have no use for all the rim job action that MM gave O-bow-ma, on behalf of the utterly clueless people who voted for this sorry excuse for a President - but I wholeheartedly agree with getting out of Afghanistan with all possible speed.
My mind cannot visualize "the good guys" ever achieving anything even resembling a successful outcome in the territory of Afghanistan - and I mean when I try very, very hard to think of the very best possible outcome that could ever emerge.
So - I default to the best idea that I have heard yet (sad as it may be). Pick one tribe that seems least negative toward our side - arm them, finance them, and help them put everyone else in that miserable territory to the sword. Follow-up with a does of "rubble doesn't cause trouble," declare victory, and get the hell outta there.
Yes, it is a hopeless situation. Yes, everyone who has died there since 2003 has died in vain. Throwing more blood and treasure into that bottomless pit isn't going to reverse those sad realizations. So - cut our losses, lick our wounds, and get ready for our next battles against the caliphate.
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Its bad for the Democrats = DemoLeft when even CNN has Guest Perts which rant agz POTUS Bammer.
* ION BAMMER BHARAT RAKSHAK > DECCAN CHRONICLE.com/India > OBAMA GIVES BIRTH TO A NEW SUPERPOWER - CHINA? INDIA? TAKE A WALK? ARTIC criticizes POTUS BAMMER as willing to do anything + everything to appease or accomodate ASIA, espec CHINA agz Amer interests [wid INDIA as a just-in-case hedge]???
Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change, believes only around 10 per cent of the planet's population -- around half a billion people -- will survive if global temperatures rise by 4C.
Possibly. Or the population could respond to the increased growing area, like it has in the past.
Anderson's warning comes just eight days before global leaders meet in Copenhagen for the most crucial talks on climate change reversal since the Rio summit in 1992. Current Met Office projections reveal that the lack of action in the intervening 17 years -- in which emissions of climate changing gases such as carbon dioxide have soared -- has set the world on a path towards potential 4C rises as early as 2060, and 6C rises by the end of the century.
I guess they haven't heard about the Climategate emails, not to mention the parlous state of the computer model programs and the invisible state of the actual data.
Anderson, who advises the government on climate change, said the consequences were "terrifying".
This is where we point and loudly laugh.
"For humanity it's a matter of life or death," he said. "We will not make all human beings extinct as a few people with the right sort of resources may put themselves in the right parts of the world and survive. "But I think it's extremely unlikely that we wouldn't have mass death at 4C. If you have got a population of nine billion by 2050 and you hit 4C, 5C or 6C, you might have half a billion people surviving."
"Me! Me! See me! Me-e-e-e-e-e-e!!! Grant money! Me! Me!"
Too late, Professor Anderson. That horse has not only left the barn, but the thief burnt it to the ground after. At this point, the coals have turned completely to ash and are cold. Sorry.
Efforts at the Copenhagen summit, which starts on 7 December, will focus on action to instead keep temperature rises to no more than 2C -- generally accepted as the threshold for dangerous climate change.
That is, generally accepted by the kind of people who believe in ignoring contrary evidence. Do try to explain the temperature trend of the last decade. Least squares applied since the middle of the last century doesn't count, I'm afraid, unless you apply least squares since, say, the beginning of the Christian era.
However, with growing pessimism that a binding agreement on emissions reduction targets will be reached, Anderson warned time was running out.
If ambitious global targets for reductions have not been set by the end of next year, he believes it will be too late to stop emissions rising beyond 2C.
My dear professor, whatever happened to the ambitious Kyoto targets? I seem to recall if they were not set and met, it was going to be too late... and while Kyoto was set, it was never met, right?
Last week, Britain and France urged the wealthiest nations to set aside $10 billion annually over the next three years to help poorer countries reduce the output of greenhouse gases.
You first. Lead by example, do.
Scotland has set a 42 per cent emissions reduction target for 2020 but Anderson pointed out that even if this was achieved by rich nations throughout the world, it would only give a 60 per cent chance of avoiding a 2C global temperature increase.
It seems to me China is now the leading producer of CO2, and India is coming up close behind. Perhaps y'all should consider including them in the plan, given that they will lose the most population of all in the coming cataclysm, due to to the combination of high population density and low technology use leading to inefficient distribution of limited resources...not to mention a frightening health care situation incapable of dealing with current insults, let alone successive waves of disaster-caused epidemics.
Despite pessimism over the past few weeks he was optimistic a legal agreement can still be reached at Copenhagen. He believes leaders are deliberately trying to lower expectations to increase the impact of any success at the summit.
"The worst possible result at Copenhagen is a bad deal where the world leaders have to come home and say it's a good deal when its rubbish," he added.
"That's the real danger -- that they will feel under pressure to sign up to anything. That could lock us into something bad for the next ten years."
Stewart Stevenson, Scotland's climate change minister, who will also be attending the summit, said: "Even quite moderate predictions do suggest that we will have vast movements of people around the world particularly on the borders of desert regions and that associated with that will be loss of life."
Populations have been moving since the end of the second world war. Mostly from the Third World into Europe and from Europe and Mexico into the U.S. Haven't you noticed all the wonderful new restaurants and music groups, Mr. Climate Change Minister?
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Professor Andy Kevinson, director of the Windmill Centre for Climate Fraud, believes only around 10 per cent of the planet's research grants -- around half a billion dollars -- will survive if global populations wise up.
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with growing pessimism that a binding agreement on emissions reduction targets will be reached, Anderson warned time was running out.
I no longer trust anyone who says that 'we are running out of time.' This is the same argument that I believe AlGore made; it's also the argument that Obama made concerning his terrifying health 'plan.'
It always seems to be the leftist/statist/marxist axis who wants to cause a stampede.
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It'll wipe out billions all right...billions in productive wealth vacuumed up by global warming graft and rent seeking.
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could someone please explain what the "perfect" global temperature would be and why 4C changes would be so catastrophic when we regularly have temperature swings of 100C every year in many places? BS, MS, PHD.
#7
The guy is full of crap. Even if it's all true we lose some expensive coastland (Florida, Louisiana, netherlands) if we can't dike it up over the years it takes the ocean to riseand in exchange we open up Siberia and Northern Canada to farming and suburbs.
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could someone please explain what the "perfect" global temperature would be
Whatever it is right now. Or preferably yesterday. It's not allowed to change even though it did all the time before mankind arrived. But now that we've arrived it's all our fault.
It is the hubris of humanity and especially of progressive humanity: that now is the most important time on the planet simply because we are here. The corollary is that, of course, we are the most important species on the planet, followed closely by Earth is the most important planet in the universe because we're on it, and that Earth (Gaia) suffers because of how we mis-treat it.
I like to remind such people:
Earth is a pebble in space. It is an inanimate object. It does not suffer and most certainly does not care.
Earth has been here for five billion years and has five billion more years to go. Today is not special to Earth in the least.
The people who came before us thought they were important; those who come after us also will think they are important. When all of us are special, none of us are.
Earth has been warmer in the past. It has been colder. It will be both warmer and colder in the future. It does not care.
As life has evolved in response to the conditions on Earth, so too shall we. It is a sublime arrogance to say that we shall change the Earth. The Earth has always changed us and always shall.
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Add one more item Steve:
Extinction is a perfectly natural process which has happened to millions of species before and probably millions after today. Blowing massive resources to 'save' some spotted tree frog or something is a crime against nature. Let it die out.
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could someone please explain what the "perfect" global temperature would be
Whatever it was during the speaker's childhood, wherever it was that the speaker was a child. Include in this that perfect day at the beach/in the mountains/playing in the snow, which he didn't enjoy nearly so much at the time as he now does in gold-nimbussed memory.
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Anthropogenic global warming doesn't matter: long before we succumb to the rising oceans, we'll all drown in the tsunami of stupid bullshit emanating from these hysterical idiots.
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If we don't act immediately, at least 129 billion1 will die!
[1] Calculations courtesy of East Aglia Climate Research Unit
A Unification Ministry official said on Thursday paying cash to North Korea for package tours to Mt. Kumgang goes against UN Security Council Resolution 1874, which sanctions the North in response to its nuclear and missile tests. The South Korean and U.S. governments have said tours to Mt. Kumgang do not in themselves violate UN sanctions, and the official's comments only raise the problem of cash payments.
For some time, there have been calls from within the South Korean and U.S. governments that cash payments per head for the Mt. Kumgang tours should stop. President Lee Myung-bak said last July that there are suspicions that massive aid to North Korea over the last 10 years has been used to produce nuclear weapons. Until the tours were halted after the fatal shooting of a South Korean tourist by North Korean soldiers at the resort last July, 1.93 million people visited the resort and the tour operator Hyundai Asan paid around US$500 million in cash to North Korea.
That's a big chunk of change, the kind that lets Kimmie keep his military supplied well enough to prevent a coup. Perhaps instead of visiting Mt. Kumgang the South Koreans could visit the Grand Canyon, or at least Hawaii ...
The North Korean regime has seen the tours as a kind of ATM and there is a good chance that part of the money or all of it was used to produce nuclear weapons.
The government says it is instead considering the provision of much-needed necessities for North Koreans, such as food and medicine, or limiting the use of the money for economic development, making those payments to a limited-use bank account rather than to the North's Asia Pacific Peace Committee, which oversees the tourism business.
North Korea was outraged, saying Wednesday, "Nowhere in the world do tourists pay for their tours with goods" and said non-cash payments were "ludicrous." If South Korea pays for the tours by means other than cash or makes the transaction transparent, North Korea would find it difficult to use the money to develop nuclear weapons.
North Korea told Hyundai Asan chairwoman Hyun Jeong-eun, who recently visited Pyongyang, that it would agree to resume the tours to Mt. Kumgang. But it still refuses talks with South Korean government officials, who have the authority to allow the visits to continue. Seoul must realize North Korea's motives in bypassing the government and communicating directly with Hyundai Asan in order to get cash, and make the North realize that this is not the way to handle things. There also needs to be a cast-iron guarantee that incidents like the fatal shooting of the South Korean tourist are not repeated and visitors to Mt. Kumgang are safe.
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There also needs to be a cast-iron guarantee that incidents like the fatal shooting of the South Korean tourist are not repeated and visitors to Mt. Kumgang are safe. SKors can easily do that by simply refusing to step over the DMZ for any peaceful reason. There must be some kind of severe cultural learning disability in that part of the world.
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The whole purpose of money is it's flexibility and anonymity, a dollar for a loaf of bread is simpler than a chicken or a dozen eggs and swap.
The anonymity means that same dollar can be used wherever and whenever you wish,
Understanding this is Crucial to understanding why "Food Aid" is a preferred choice over Cash aid, it's a lot harder to sell billions of bushels of corn and then buy Uranium, or simply steal the cash and buy Uranium directly.
Fools don't see the difference.
I do.
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Wehell, the PRE-WW2 "MUNICH CONFERENCE" + "NAZI-SOVIET NON-AGGRESSION PACT" + POST-WW1 "WAR TO END ALL WARS" WW2 + 1950 KOREAN WAR
[includ CHIN INTERVENTION] + 1975 FALL OF SAIGON/SOUTH VIETNAM, etc. weren't supposed to happen either.
Western financial institutions holding the Dubai World debt may be headed for a clash with Islamic banking law.
Under Islamic law, investors are required to share in losses and profits. This rule may require Dubai World to seek concessions from creditors as a condition of a bailout from Abu Dhabi.
But the laws governing some of the Western banks with large exposures to the Dubai World debt may prohibit them from voluntarily accepting less than par on the bonds.
Recall that when the US sought to win concessions from AIG creditors, it was told that the counterparties would not voluntarily take a haircut. (Except for UBS, which offered to take a 2% haircut.)
Some of those creditorsincluding Soc Gen, Deutsche Bank and Barclaysare big holders of Dubai bonds.
French regulators reportedly told US regulators that SocGen and Calyon were legally barred from accepting less than par value for swap contracts if AIG did not file for bankruptcy. So will French regulators also refuse to allow SocGen and BNP Paribas to take a haircut on the Dubai bonds?
If Dubai World does win concessions from its creditors, this may prove embarrassing for Tim Geithner and other US officials who failed at this task when it came to AIG.
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WMF/BHARAT RAKSHAK Artics > Unlike US-Western creditors, CHINA proclaims it is likely econ + investment-safe from potens effects induced by any DUBAI/UAE CRASH???
Michael Gerson has lousy timing. In The Washington Post, in one of those now familiar elegies for old media, he writes:
And the whole system is based on a kind of intellectual theft. Internet aggregators (who link to news they don't produce) and bloggers would have little to collect or comment upon without the costly enterprise of newsgathering and investigative reporting. The old-media dinosaurs remain the basis for the entire media food chain.
I commented on that same piece the other evening. Theory, meet practice.
That's laughably untrue in the Warmergate story. If you rely on the lavishly remunerated "climate correspondents"
If you follow online analysis from obscure websites on the fringes of the map, you'll know what's going on. If you go to the convenience store and buy today's newspaper, you won't.
of the big newspapers and networks, you'll know nothing about the Climate Research Unit scandals - just the business-as-usual drivel about Boston being underwater by 2011. Indeed, even when a prominent media warm-monger addresses the issue, the newspaper prefers to reprint a month-old column predating the scandal. If you follow online analysis from obscure websites on the fringes of the map, you'll know what's going on. If you go to the convenience store and buy today's newspaper, you won't. That's the problem.
If anyone needs newspapers, it ought to be for stories like this. If there were no impending ecopalypse, then "climate science" would be a relatively obscure field, as it was up to a generation ago. Now it produces celebrity scientists living high off the hog of billions in grants. They thus have a vested interest in maintaining the planet's-gonna-fry line. So what do the media do? Instead of exposing the thesis to rigorous journalistic examination, they stage fluffy green stunts, run soft-focus "living green" features with Hollywood "activists", and at a time of massive staff cutbacks in every other department create the positions of specialist "climate correspondent" and "environmental reporter" and fill them with sycophantic promoters of the Big Scare to the point that, as Dr Mann coos approvingly to The New York Times, "you've taken the words out of my mouth".
What Gerson writes ought to be true. Warmergate demonstrates why it isn't.
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Robert Townshend, "Moso Bamboo" (The blog is about the growth of an Aussie bamboo grove...and other things.)
On the subject of commercial achievement, one wonders why great corporations, and Hollywood studios amongst them, seem to have such scorn for the extraordinary entrepreneurs who made their corporations and studios possible. If you asked the typical Harvard MBA, CEO or Hollywood boss whom he most admired, it would probably be the charismatic figurehead of a quasi one-party state in Africa or South America, Bono, or a fashionable theocratic figure like the Dalai Lama. Or Al Gore.
Plutocrats who would rage if their limo broke down on the way to a Darfur benefit would look at you in bewilderment if you suggested that Soichiro Honda was a benefactor of mankind. For the modern corporate man, a titan like Honda is the guy who was dumb enough do all the work and take all the risks. Wouldn't know an executive bonus if it bit him on the bum.
What studio boss would be willing to make All the Vice President's Men, story of cover-ups by a major British climate authority to aid in the dispersal of the West's wealth and dismantling of its industries? Couldn't happen in real life. Besides, Redford has moved on to corruption in 1950s quiz shows, Hoffman is maybe practising his Venezuelan accent for the definitive Hugo Chavez biopic....
After the show is over, nobody heads for Havana or Pyongyang. People continue living lavishly in a world fashioned by the likes of Rockefeller, Woolworth, Ford, Carnegie and Bill Gates...but reserve their praise for dictators in impoverished backwaters. Or Al Gore. (h/t Charles G. Hill @ dustbury.com)
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If you had devoted your entire scientific career to predicting the end of the world, what do you think would be the symbol of success with which to crown that career? Why, to be President Obamas choice as White House Director of Science and Technology. Thats his formal title, but what John Holdren is, in fact, is the nations Alarmist in Chief.
Al Gore thinks he invented global alarmism, but hes a Johnny-come-lately compared with Mr. Holdren who, back in 1971 edited (with population alarmist Paul Ehrlich) a book titled Global Ecology. Also, he supplied one of its essays, Overpopulation and the Potential for Ecocide in which he predicted that such human-caused phenomena as agricultural dust, jet exhaust and smog would cause a new ice age. Thus, he wrote, ...a sudden slumping in the Antarctic ice cap, induced by added weight, could generate a tidal wave of proportions unprecedented in recorded history. Nowadays, of course, the giant tidal wave will be caused by melting ice caps, not growing ones. One must move with the times.
Holdren has been selling doom for years through academic papers, books and conferences. He has gone from overpopulation to global cooling, nuclear holocaust and global warming. The alarm level never wavers; only the vehicle changes as one disaster fad segues into a new one.
Now his name surfaces as being involved in the e-mail exchanges dubbed Climategate in which Climate Research Unit scientists at the U.K.s University of East Anglia discussed amongst themselves and with others ways and means of suppressing climate data that refuted global warming ideology. Holdren joined in the e-mail exchanges early this year.
That a trove of these e-mails was recently hacked and made public in several online journals and blogs has caused acute embarrassment to the global warming fraternity now that its Copenhagen conference is but a few days away.
Holdren sought to undermine the professional credibility of physicists Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon for papers they published in which they concluded that there is insufficient evidence to support the now-orthodox view that anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is a fact today. AGW is a linchpin of global warming proponents argument that human activity causes climate change.
Another who attacked Baliunas and Soon was Michael Mann (inventor of the Hockey Stick Theory of climate which many of his fellow-zealots used to buttress their global warming arguments). Manns e-mails were in the purloined batch, as were Holdrens defending him.
President Obamas Climate Czarina, Carol Browner, leapt into the fray the other day, saying she considered the science of the matter settled and that she would stick with the consensus of the 2,500 scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change (the Copenhagen conference group). Alas, the IPCCs turgid tomes on global warming are written not by scientists, but by bureaucrats of various governments and the United Nations.
Late last week Dr. Eduardo Zorita, a UN IPCC contributing editor, declared flatly that three high priests of the global warming movement Hockey Stick Mann, Phil Jones and Stefan Rahmstorf should be barred from the IPCC process. The reason? Scientists who disagreed with global warming orthodoxy had been bullied and subtly blackmailed. Climategate wont go away.
As for Alarmist-in-Chief Holdren, now that his public profile has been raised as much as it has, the public may also take note of his anti-democratic, anti-freedom views, expounded in his screeds about population. At one point he argued for forced abortion and for putting chemicals in drinking water that would sterilize all in the population but those deemed by the elite to be worthy of exemption.
One of his most recent notions is to blend two of his favorite doomsday concepts by injecting pollutants into the upper atmosphere. The global cooling effect of this would be to sink down to smother the global warming effects of pollution here on earth.
Where are the men in the white smocks with the big nets when we need them?
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Only President O-no could place as many nuts, monkeys, socialists and communists in the White House tree as he did. Amazing that he could find that many around. Did they wear lapel pins saying, "Nuts for O-no"?
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President Obama did us all a favour by exposing these people to the light. Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and outside events are taking them on one at a time. BigGovernment.com is doing their bit as well, although they could be counted as an outside event, I s'pose.
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"injecting pollutants into the atmosphere" > IIRC, twasn't the new SAVE-THE-EARTH-FROM-DUBYA anti-Warming Sciens doohicky this week was to SUCK CARBON OUT THE AIR???
On a separate note, INDIA > [Union Carbide]BHOPAL WATERS STILL TOXIC AFTER 25 YEARS [OTHER RELATED > + 30,000 post-incident deaths + no GOVT-UN prosecution, Imprisonment of any Persons responsible includ Union Carbide company].
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Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
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