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Think tank: If each of us carried a gun . . .
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 12/08/2008 08:53 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Correctly me if I'm wrong, but the Swiss are required to maintain their 'militia' issued weapon [modern semi-automatic] and a basic load of ammunition in their abode.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/08/2008 10:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Actually, for males between 18-45 I think, they're weapon is fully automatic. Women get the choice on keeping a semi-auto or automatic if they choose.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 12/08/2008 11:46 Comments || Top||

#3  I personaly think every able bodied person should be REQUIRED to carry, perhaps we could get the Army to issue a .45 and two loaded clips and require weapons training.
(Best at a military base nearby)

Shortly the thugs and dopers will all be dead, killed by their fellow thugs and dopers.

Mind you this is a minimum, you can buy whatever you can handle. 12 gage pump comes to mind.

Require records kept on who got what (Numbered) gun, with very severe penalties for having someone's issued gun but yours.
Run out of ammo or your gun is stolen, report to your nearest Mil Base or police dept at once. they'll take your report, issue another and ammo. and woe be the person who commits a robbery with his or your gun, his gun, shoot on sight, your gun, hunt down and shoot on sight.

The first few weks will be lively, especially in places like Chicago and DC, but it should die down (Pun intended) and the whole country will be safer.
Posted by: Rednek Jim || 12/08/2008 12:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Spend a week in Hawaii, Jim, and you might change your mind about arming everyone. Just check out the way they drive and extrapolate to handling firearms.
"Wa' fo "safety", Bro?"
Posted by: Hupuger Dingle5364 || 12/08/2008 13:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Rednek Jim: The Kennesaw model is a good one, but especially because there are no penalties for not carrying.

The rationale is simple: while society should desire an armed citizenry, a goodly percentage of the citizenry know that they are unable to be armed, without being a danger to those around them. Call it an "incompetence exemption".

This can be anything from arthritis to being a stumble bum, and knowing it. Then, of course, the odd exception, such as one guy I knew who abhorred guns because he was a master knife fighter. For him, guns were just a hunk of metal that got in the way.

As far as England goes, they need a well funded and persistent pro-gun lobbying organization with a 20 year plan to restore gun rights incrementally.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/08/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Y'all seem to have missed the part about getting training at the closest Mil Base.
I'm not forcing folks to use only a gun, the Knife expert can be issued a "Permit" to be "Unarmed" (So to speak)or just let him throw it in a drawer.

I for one would rather whoever be armed with whatever they can use best Whatever it is, the pistol is meant as a minimum., you want to use a UZI? Qualify and all OK, no "Spray and Pray".
Posted by: Rednek Jim || 12/08/2008 15:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Only 99 years ago in Merrie Old England: "n January 1909 two anarchists, lately come from an attempt to blow up the president of France, tried to commit a robbery in north London, armed with automatic pistols. Edwardian Londoners, however, shot back – and the anarchists were pursued through the streets by a spontaneous hue-and-cry. The police, who could not find the key to their own gun cupboard, borrowed at least four pistols from passers-by, while other citizens armed with revolvers and shotguns preferred to use their weapons themselves to bring the assailants down."
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/08/2008 17:33 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Analyst: Use Lasers on Pirates (and Everyone Else)
Posted by: tipper || 12/08/2008 05:14 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The military are afraid to use 'death ray' devices because of the potential negative press. But nobody is standing up for the Somali pirates, so why not try it out on them?
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 12/08/2008 8:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Because they deserve nothing better than cold steel with a whiff of high explosives.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/08/2008 8:50 Comments || Top||

#3  we could just restore to service some ex-sub captains let go for surfacing under small vessels - just saying...
Posted by: 3dc || 12/08/2008 10:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes, use a $50 million on a $5000 dinghy. That is cost effective. And that little little treaty banning blinding lasers.

I also have an idea with directed energy weapons. I call it the lead laser. Comes in all calibers and reasonable prices.
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2008 12:43 Comments || Top||

#5  I call it the lead laser

Quantum mechanically speaking, this is simply a particle beam with *extremely* short wavelength. Hard to beat lead and powder when it comes to bang-for-the-buck.

As for blinding lasers, I don't think it counts as blinding if the target is totally vaporized.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/08/2008 14:26 Comments || Top||

#6  A human target cannot be "vaporized" ala STAR TREK, etc. unless his local/area EM fields are first contained and isolated for him to "cook" at the molecular=and-lower level - widout it, at best you're just burning a nasty scraggly hole thru the body, a kindler gentler linear glorified flamethrower.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/08/2008 18:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Does this guy kill spiders with a sledge hammer? The Somali pirates are a bunch of guys with AK-47's and RPG's in a speed boat. A few rounds from a deck machine gun or a couple of shots from a small caliber deck cannon and they're toast.
Posted by: DMFD || 12/08/2008 21:28 Comments || Top||

#8  A-10s on the high seas. I'm sure there are plenty of A-10 jockeys that have the capability of throttling back and sawing even a rubber dinghy in half. Personally, I'm still in favor of an AC-130 using the four miniguns in close alignment. Neither choice is particularly cost-effective, but seeing the aftermath (if there's anything left afterwards) might convince a few people that raising cobras would be a more profitable and safe occupation.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/08/2008 23:28 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
B. Raman's Views on Mumbai and Pakistan - Cholk Full of Info
Posted by: Plastic Snoopy || 12/08/2008 14:14 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


Extremists threaten fledgling democracy
The author is trying to convince us that things could get worse in Pakistain. I suppose that's possible ...
Pakistan's 2008 election marked a historic turnaround after years of military rule but the fledgling democracy is mired in record violence and accusations it is a breeding ground for terrorism.
The "fledgling democracy" is the same old oligarchy of kleptocrats that the military threw out. It's not a change, it's a pendulum swing. They've "Mr. Ten Percent" as president in preference to having Uncle Fester, who's on the side of the Islamists.
Pakistan entered 2008 on a wave of international sympathy following the December 27 assassination of former premier Benazir Bhutto.
Benazir was tossed for Gomez' financial depredations as much as for anything else. And they couldn't come up with an alternative to her when it was election time. Politix is dynastic everywhere -- witness our own Kennedies and Bushes and Daleys -- but some dynasties are better than others.
Twelve months on, the country is battling a huge increase in violence and is once again accused of being a haven for terrorists in the wake of the devastating Mumbai siege.
That'll happen with a "government of national unity" like Zardari started out with. Having to accomodate Nawaz, there was a push to declare peace in the tribal lands, whether the tribals stopped shooting our not. Recent events show that the accomodation with the military and with ISI is back in place, with another coup probably five years in the future when the next falling out occurs.
Analysts say Pakistan's new democratic government under President Asif Ali Zardari has failed to capitalise on international support to tackle the insurgency plaguing the country.
Pakistain has a democratic government? Since when?
They still haven't stopped trying to use their Frankenstein's monster as a tool. The oligarchy, the monster, and the military all have different ideas about who's really in charge.
"There was international sympathy when the year ended last year but now we seem to have been isolated again," political scientist Rasul Baksh Rais told AFP. "(Instead) the same extremist forces are so much emboldened that they have the capacity to a cause a conflict between India and Pakistan," Rais said.
So emboldened, in fact, they had the ISI and the navy provide training to the krazed killers.
Rais said the ousting of former president Gen (r) Pervez Musharraf in August marked a 'momentous turning point' for Pakistan. Instead, 2008 saw a rise in suicide attacks, widely seen as retaliation for army operations against Al Qaeda-linked terrorists in the Tribal Areas.
Yes, it was a turning point all right ...
A fresh standoff with nuclear-powered neighbour India over the Mumbai attacks, which New Delhi blames on Pakistani elements, poses a further threat to a nation already reeling from record violence.

Analysts warn that if the Pak-India tensions descend into outright hostility, democracy could collapse. "The whole thing might collapse and in that case anything can happen," political analyst Shafqat Mahmood said. "And the army has always been a contender in politics."
If Pakistaini democracy collapsed would anyone notice?
Pakistan has also been hit by rising inflation and a sharp decline in its international reserves over the past year as terror attacks, the insurgency in the northwest and the global financial turmoil took their toll.
Posted by: Fred || 12/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Does the military want democracy is the question that should be asked!!!!!
Posted by: Paul2 || 12/08/2008 7:19 Comments || Top||

#2  The author is trying to convince us that things could get worse in Pakistain

A lot worse for Pakis, a lot better for India.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/08/2008 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Does the military want democracy is the question that should be asked

Im not quite sure exactly what is being asked here, but any Military HAS to be run as a dictatorship for it to work.
Posted by: Rednek Jim || 12/08/2008 12:13 Comments || Top||

#4  p.s. How come Pakistan---which was founded 60 years ago is still "fledgling"?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/08/2008 13:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe a series of military strongmen has something to do with it?
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 12/08/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Pollution threatens male gender, says CHEM Trust report
POLLUTION is damaging the "basic male tool kit", threatening the future of the male gender, according to new research.

A report released today by the charity CHEM Trust shows that male fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals have been harmed by man-made chemicals in the environment.

"These findings add to mounting worries about the role of hormone-disrupting or so-called ‘gender-bending' chemicals in the environment and the implications for human health," said charity CHEM Trust.

In mammals, genital disruption in males had been widely reported including: intersex features, small penis and testes, undescended testes; abnormal testes; or ambiguous genitals.

The report, which draws on more than 250 scientific studies from around the world, concentrates mainly on wildlife, identifying effects in a range of species.

"Males of species from each of the main classes of vertebrate animals (including bony fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals) have been affected by chemicals in the environment.

"Feminisation of the males of numerous vertebrate species is now a widespread occurrence. All vertebrates have similar sex hormone receptors, which have been conserved in evolution. Therefore, observations in one species may serve to highlight pollution issues of concern for other vertebrates, including humans," the report concludes.
Posted by: tipper || 12/08/2008 04:45 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That explains a lot about Western politics in the last generation.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/08/2008 8:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Or it could be the result of policies that enact practices that undermine natural selection. The cultural push for a static environment which does not press upon its inhabitants, regardless of species, to adapt to change will result in a flatting of variation and subsequently the many allied 'aspects' that separate successful progenitors.

That explains a lot about Western politics in the last generation.

So, you think there's a possible corollary with the ratification of the 19th Amendment and this? [duck and cover] :)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/08/2008 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  It could also explain the explosion of 'gender confused' people in our country.
See, I told ya, they're mutants!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/08/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Sewage Treatment Plants and Modern Drugs...
More to come in the coming decades...

Do we need better digester bacteria?
Posted by: 3dc || 12/08/2008 10:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh Boo Hoo Hoo, Gimme a Billion Bucks and I'll see if anything can be done.
Posted by: Rednek Jim || 12/08/2008 12:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Hermaphroditic freaks have been a part of nature for as long as anyone's been paying attention. A brief perusal of Roman portent records will show you *that*. This 'report'? Chowderheaded grant-mongering FUD.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 12/08/2008 12:40 Comments || Top||

#7  Mitch, it's not that hermaphrodites and sexual abnormalities exist, but what is their frequency distribution over time? The data doesn't exist until, maybe, recently.

It is known that exposure to sex hormones and analogues can even change the sex in some test species. It is not a stretch, otherwise animal modeling of human diseases has been a terrible mistake, to think that human fetuses are also affected. What is known is that post WW2, industrialized nations' male sperm counts have been halved and synthetic female hormones and analogues (e.g. plasticizers) have seen widespread entry into our environment. To think that it only affects sperm counts and not other physical parameters and especially behaviors, I think is a bit of a stretch.

In the mean time, it is prudent to avoid plastic containers. Especially the soft ones that get heated (e.g. frozen food trays, drink bottles, cheap food containers, plastic baby bottles) and more easily release additives.
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2008 13:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Scientific proof of scripture? This Bible passage from Isaiah came to mind:
"Wail, for the day of the LORD is near;it will come like destruction from the Almighty. Because of this, all hands will go limp, every man’s heart will melt.
Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame. See, the day of the LORD is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger—to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless. I will make man scarcer than pure gold, more rare than the gold of Ophir."

The Hebrew word translated 'man' means specifically 'young men' and their judgment seems to be directed at their manhood, but the pollution from burning Kuwaiti oil wells and terror regional young males inspire also seems to fit the prophecy. In other words, women may very well rule the world some day.

Posted by: Danielle || 12/08/2008 13:47 Comments || Top||

#9  In other words, women may very well rule the world some day.

YIKES!!!
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/08/2008 13:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Although the Telegraph story didn't say it, many researchers in this field believe that the principle source of this gender impact pollution is birth control pills.

Taking these pills makes women's wastes contain a realtively high amount of estrogen and progesterone. Current sewage treatment does not destroy these hormones and the solids from sewage treatment plants are used as soil enrichment for agriculture in many countries.
Posted by: mhw || 12/08/2008 15:51 Comments || Top||

#11  And then, as I have said many times from the pulpit....there is the dreaded run-off which is
injested by Green Monkeys and creates HIV. It's a Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline plot I tell you, a genocidal plot!
Posted by: J. Wright || 12/08/2008 16:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Pollution by hormones (such as oral contraceptives --> urine --> water supply) and by artificial chemicals that mimic hormones (such as some plastics) really are a serious issue with unprecedented impacts. 

I have a relative who's a developmental geneticist. She's been tracking this for a while now and is deeply concerned.
Posted by: lotp || 12/08/2008 16:46 Comments || Top||

#13  Can thjey be filtered?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/08/2008 17:55 Comments || Top||

#14  I think any resin-activated carbon filter would work ($20). At home, my drinking water uses a 3 stage reverse osmosis filter (sediment, RO, activated carbon, $300).
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2008 18:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Guys - remember to wear your hazmat suit next time you visit San Francisco.
Posted by: Herb Glock6932 || 12/08/2008 21:29 Comments || Top||

#16  SO-o-o IOW, when those RAMPAGING ASIAN GIRL GANGS RANTED THAT POST 9-11 OWG-NWO = GLOBAL SOCIALISM-WELFARISM WAS FOR THEM, i.e. "NO MEN ALLOWED", SCIENCE HAS DISCOVERED THE MATH/
PROOFS!?

* JURASSIC PARK > the alleged TIGHTLY CONTROLLED AND MONITORED, GENETIC ENGINEERED, ALL-FEMALE DINOS are not only having [lesbo?]sex, but getting preggers and having kiddies.

You can just feel the "FASCISTS = LIMITED COMMUNISM, ETC. BUT ONLY COMMUNISTS ARE TRUE COMMUNISTS, ETC." BON-FIDE UNITARIANISM + EQUALISM, CAN'T YE!?

D *** NG IT, MORIARITY, "FASCIST ARROGANT MALE BRUTES" = LIMITED MOTHERLINESS!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/08/2008 22:19 Comments || Top||



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Mon 2008-12-08
  Paks torch 160 NATO supply trucks
Sun 2008-12-07
  Al-Shabaab set up regional administration
Sat 2008-12-06
  Suspected US missile kills 3 in Pakistan
Fri 2008-12-05
  Iraq Presidency Council approves US troop pact
Thu 2008-12-04
  Italy: Police arrest two Moroccan terrs
Wed 2008-12-03
  Abu Qatada back in jug
Tue 2008-12-02
  Zardari sez not to do anything rash
Mon 2008-12-01
  Pak Army Brass Turban: Baitullah Mehsud, Fazlullah are Patriots!
Sun 2008-11-30
  Last gunny killed in Mumbai, ending siege
Sat 2008-11-29
  Sadrists claim security pact 'illegal'
Fri 2008-11-28
  1 terrorist holed up in Taj
Thu 2008-11-27
  Indo security forces engage ''Deccan Mujaheddin''
Wed 2008-11-26
  80 killed, 900 injured, 100 taken hostage in attacks on Hotels in Mumbai
Tue 2008-11-25
  Somali pirates jack Yemeni ship
Mon 2008-11-24
  Holy Land Foundation members found guilty of supporting terrorism


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