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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Black glove was tampered with, OJ is innocent
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 09:30 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Get your pardons, get your presidential pardons. Get your pardons here!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 11:57 Comments || Top||

#2  OJ was acquitted in the black glove cass - he only needs a pardon for the stolen memorabilia case, right?
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/08/2012 12:05 Comments || Top||

#3  He needs a pardon for the armed robbery of a Sports Memorabilia collector, so he can continue his search for the Real Killers©.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 09/08/2012 14:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually it should be, "Black glove was tampered with, OJ is guilty", if you read it.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/08/2012 16:05 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Mayor ''Big Gulp'' revives school uniform issue
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 08:58 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, and made cheaply in China which apparently has a surplus of the design.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/08/2012 10:49 Comments || Top||

#2  but a teacher who molests kids in the classroom - even if the kids are wearing a uniform - cannot be fired and is put on paid "rubber room" leave. Why don't you start there, you Nanny Bastard?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/08/2012 10:58 Comments || Top||

#3  I actually think school uniforms are a good idea.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 14:39 Comments || Top||

#4  But at the beach g(r)o^o m, what about the BEACH!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 15:04 Comments || Top||

#5  To be candid, I find 15 years old pretending to be women just a bit grotesque, Besoeker.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 15:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Dressing them as children doesn't keep them from acting more adult than their age, g(r)omgoru.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/08/2012 21:18 Comments || Top||

#7  [1980's WENDY's "VERY NICE" COMMERCIAL here].

Komrade.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/08/2012 22:20 Comments || Top||


Why does coffee never taste as good as it smells?
asking and answering the important questions .....
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It does.

It both tastes and smells like $#it. Might as well brew up the sweepings from the stable floor.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/08/2012 8:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Sniffing one's coffee is gay.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 9:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Bacon with liver has the same problem.
AlanC, don't be a h8r!
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 09/08/2012 11:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Coffee stimulates both taste and smell receptors. Besides all that, it is just plain good.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/08/2012 11:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Bacon does NOT have the same problem. Liver...........blech!!

AA when it comes to coffee I AM a h8r and proud of it!! Mocha, latte, iced, cream, anyway anyhow I just can't take the stuff!!

And believe me I've tried. Everything from the gourmetest of the gourmet, to the stuff in styrofoam cups from the building site coffee truck (and at 20 degrees with a humid breeze off the harbor MAN did I want to like that stuff) I just can't stand it.

Oh well to each his own 8^(
Posted by: AlanC || 09/08/2012 11:32 Comments || Top||

#6  AlanC in times like this you need the real deal.

Posted by: Shipman || 09/08/2012 11:55 Comments || Top||

#7  possibly, you forgot the brandy?
Posted by: Tiny Mussolini5350 || 09/08/2012 12:03 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm with Alan. Tea for me, please.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 09/08/2012 12:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Shipman, I've heard of that stuff from my UK friends.........umm, I don't think so ;^)

Tiny, why would you spoil good brandy like that?

Scooter, NOW you're talking! I love a good cuppa!
Posted by: AlanC || 09/08/2012 12:46 Comments || Top||

#10  depends upon whether you filter it thru your bandana or not. if you've got a clean bandana ... it tastes fine :-)
Posted by: Raider || 09/08/2012 13:33 Comments || Top||

#11  Don't make it in coffee maker, or---at least, clean the later daily---and it'll taste fine.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 14:33 Comments || Top||

#12  I still throw a tiny pinch of salt in the grounds - brings back memories of engine-room brew.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/08/2012 16:08 Comments || Top||

#13  That's why ice cream is made in many flavors. Different people have different tastes. I really like a strong cup of coffee in the morning out on the porch while watching the wild life. There was a Great Blue Heron in the pond this morning trying to catch frogs. Also, I love it around a campfire.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/08/2012 18:08 Comments || Top||

#14  I'll take me rum ration over coffee any day.
I drinks me some drams.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/08/2012 18:31 Comments || Top||

#15  Mr. Wife is just as happy I like neither coffee nor beer, as it leaves more for him.

Interesting article, lotp. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/08/2012 19:26 Comments || Top||

#16  Coffee means the outdoor life for me- while we are camping my wife makes me a big mug of coffee every morning. At home in NYC it's Dilmah tea every day.
Posted by: Grunter || 09/08/2012 19:57 Comments || Top||

#17  Whatcha talkin' about, Willis???

We overdosed on Soylent OJ at Berkeley, again, didn't we!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/08/2012 21:56 Comments || Top||

#18  Tea for me, or hot chocolate (the real stuff, not mix) as a treat in the winter.
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 22:06 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
2 decades of deindustrialization in Venezuela
Venezuela entered the 21st century with challenges that were planned in the last century agenda. The country's industrialization is one of those postponed challenges for years.

The idea "to sow oil," suggested by Arturo Úslar Pietri in 1936, was not taken into account and oil seems to be a "curse" to national economy, nowadays.

Instead of reinvesting in the development of areas such as manufacturing or agriculture, the previous and the current governments have succumbed to the charm of the huge incomes obtained by the oil sale, and they have been engaged in more important issues.

A brief glance at the evolution of the Venezuelan industry shows an effort started in the 50's to promote industrialization. This effort remained for years, but the "neo liberal twist" in the 80's and Hugo Chávez's administration have not take into consideration the promotion of industry.

In 1987, according to Venezuela's Central Bank (BCV) data, the manufacturing sector represents 20% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Since then, 25 years of mistakes and adverse results have passed.

In 1998, a year before Chavez's inauguration, the industry still represented 17.4% of the global economy. At the end of 2011 that indicator decreased to 14.4%.
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and what foreigner in their right mind would make investments in the land of nationalization? China only, perhaps?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/08/2012 10:08 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Clinton sees Congress moving on Russia trade measure
The US Congress may move this month to upgrade trade relations with Russia, a key part of the Obama administration's effort to bolster sometimes strained ties with Moscow and open the Russian market to more US companies, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Saturday.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 15:22 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, goody.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/08/2012 16:09 Comments || Top||

#2  The ambassador from Georgia (newest NATO member) couldn't be reached for comment.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/08/2012 21:37 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Mao's hometown prepares for a revamp and his reputation is re-examined
The hometown of Mao Tse-tung is planning a £1.5bn "facelift" in the lead-up to the 120th anniversary of his birth next year.

According to reports in the Changsha Evening News, the city of Xiangtan, which administers Shaoshan town where Mao was born, is planning to build motorways, tourist projects and a school to commemorate the anniversary of the revolutionary who founded the People's Republic of China and ruled it until his death in 1976.

A museum with 6,000 pieces of Mao memorabilia will be renovated. "During the 120th year, there will be more tourists on our Red-themed tour," explained a local propaganda official, who gave his name as Mr Zhang.

But recent months have seen two leading newspapers focus on a darker side of Mao's 28-year rule: the Great Famine that swept through the Chinese countryside in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Some claim as many as 45 million people were starved, worked or beaten to death for not complying with government policy.

While official accounts site a far lower death toll and attribute much of the misery to natural disasters, historians point the finger at Mao's Great Leap Forward, a calamitous 1958 push to transform China into a leading industrial power.

In China's rush to produce more steel than the UK harvests were neglected, grain production collapsed and famine set in. Historians describe the famine as one of the worst man-made tragedies in the history of mankind, but within China debate over its causes remains highly restricted.

On Friday, however, the state-run Global Times printed a double-page feature examining one man's decision to build a monument to victims of the famine.

Under the headline: "Starved of memories", it argued: "China is in dire need of recording the dark chapters of its modern history."

That followed a series of May reports about the famine in the Southern People Weekly, including a combative editorial that said its true causes had been ignored for "long enough."

"The Great Famine, a rare disaster in the history of mankind, does not have an 'official record' or a reasonable explanation, nor is it acknowledged by the textbooks. It has basically been blocked," the newspaper wrote. "For the new generation, the history of Great Famine is like a fairy tale."

University of Hong Kong historian Zhou Xun, the author of a new book called 'The Great Famine in China', said stories contradicting the official account were "quite rare".

She questioned whether the Global Times article was a deliberate move to revise interpretations of the famine or a "slip".

Dutch historian Frank Dikotter, the author of Mao's Great Famine, suggested an apparent willingness to revisit the darkest days of Mao's rule could be linked to attempts to discredit disgraced politician Bo Xilai, who promoted Maoist policies before being toppled by the Neil Heywood scandal.
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Jimmy Carter may be History's Greatest Monster, but Mao's reputation as World's Worst Mass Murderer as seems pretty secure.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/08/2012 2:11 Comments || Top||

#2  "Forward"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/08/2012 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Please Mr. Barrack I don't wanna go.....
Forward Hoeez
Posted by: Shipman || 09/08/2012 12:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Mao's reputation as World's Worst Mass Murderer as seems pretty secure

Ah, but did he do it with a smile on his face, like Uncle Joe?
Posted by: Pappy || 09/08/2012 16:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Indeed, Uncle Joe had a certain.....Panache.

But when you love your job.....
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/08/2012 18:45 Comments || Top||


Are Chinese Banks Hiding “The Mother of All Debt Bombs”?
China's massive bank financed stimulus was intended to keep the economy moving. It may instead lead to economic disaster.

Financial collapses may have different immediate triggers, but they all originate from the same cause: an explosion of credit. This iron law of financial calamity should make us very worried about the consequences of easy credit in China in recent years. From the beginning of 2009 to the end of June this year, Chinese banks have issued roughly 35 trillion yuan ($5.4 trillion) in new loans, equal to 73 percent of China's GDP in 2011. About two-thirds of these loans were made in 2009 and 2010, as part of Beijing's stimulus package. Unlike deficit-financed stimulus packages in the West, China's colossal stimulus package of 2009 was funded mainly by bank credit (at least 60 percent, to be exact), not government borrowing.

Flooding the economy with trillions of yuan in new loans did accomplish the principal objective of the Chinese government — maintaining high economic growth in the midst of a global recession. While Beijing earned plaudits around the world for its decisiveness and economic success, excessive loose credit was fueling a property bubble, funding the profligacy of state-owned enterprises, and underwriting ill-conceived infrastructure investments by local governments. The result was predictable: years of painstaking efforts to strengthen the Chinese banking system were undone by a spate of careless lending as new bad loans began to build up inside the financial sector

The National Audit Office of China acknowledged in June 2011 that local government debt totaled 10.7 trillion yuan (U.S. $1.7 trillion) at the end of 2010. However, Professor Victor Shih of Northwestern University has estimated that the real amount of local government debt was between 15.4 and 20.1 trillion yuan, or between 40 and 50% of China’s GDP. Of this amount, he further estimated, the local government financing vehicles (LGFVs), which are financial entities established by local governments to invest in infrastructure and other projects, owed between 9.7 and 14.4 trillion yuan at the end of 2010.

Anybody with some knowledge of the state of health of LGFVs would shudder at these numbers.
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/08/2012 7:03 Comments || Top||

#2  This is a worry. China imploding economically will lead to massive unrest. Totalitarian countries in the past have used a hated enemy and a war to distract people from their anger at the government...
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/08/2012 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  How very inscrutable!

One of the lessons of economic history seems to be that you can get great growth by government intervention, but forces build up and eventually, when the economic chickens come home to roost, you end up in the Greece.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/08/2012 10:58 Comments || Top||

#4  China imploding economically will lead to massive unrest. Totalitarian countries in the past have used a hated enemy and a war to distract people from their anger at the government...

Never mind war, Anakin. Just look at the list of the staff that, nowadays, is produced only in China (for example the computer I'm using to write this message on).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 14:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Totalitarian countries in the past have used a hated enemy and a war to distract people from their anger at the government...

Not really open to the Chinese, who rely on free and open trade to keep the economy going. War will cause unemployment to skyrocket. That's on top of the direct financial cost of fighting Uncle Sam. And if they lose? Note that wars end, but economic sanctions can continue for decades. Then there's the foreign investment driven away by the threat of future wars. Today's just-in-time supply chains are extremely allergic to the risk of war. If China wants to continue being the world's manufacturing hub, it needs to avoid war at all costs.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/08/2012 18:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Totalitarian countries in the past have used a hated enemy and a war to distract people from their anger at the government...

This distraction idea, one of the pillars of neo-conservatism, is fundamentally flawed because it views the masses as morons who are easily led by their noses. In reality, most people already know what they believe. In totalitarian societies, many will parrot the pieties of the ruling party, but only if certain sacred cows remain inviolate. If NK's Kim suddenly decided that two Koreas was the natural order of things and started broadcasting to that effect, he'd be turfed. If Hitler had decided to dissolve Germany into Prussia and the former German kingdoms and principalities, does anyone really think the German people would have followed him? The Chinese government is hyping territorial issues because the Chinese people view it as a sacred cow. Much as in the Muslim world, the Chinese populace is more bloodthirsty and revanchist than the Chinese regime.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/08/2012 18:33 Comments || Top||

#7  China imploding economically will lead to massive unrest.
Maybe not, DV
Ever since China moved from Communism to Keynesianism, she has been pursuing a type of Keynesiamism that most economists in the West are unaware of, let alone know how to incorporate into their calculations.
At its core Keynes General Theory is a dual economic theory.
As Keynes said in his introduction to the German edition to his book in 1936 (3 years after Hitler came to power and many of whose policies he incorporated into his theory)

"The theory of aggregate production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire. This is one of the reasons that justifies the fact that I call my theory a general theory."
China adopted the totalitarian theory.
When a peasant moves into the manufacturing sector from a collective farm, they can only do so by being granted a working permit. Permits are strictly controlled.If they lose that permit its back to the reservation for them. So most of the unemployed will not cost them anything in welfare payments and will be kept under control by the collective farm management.
Posted by: tipper || 09/08/2012 21:04 Comments || Top||

#8  When a peasant moves into the manufacturing sector from a collective farm, they can only do so by being granted a working permit. Permits are strictly controlled.If they lose that permit its back to the reservation for them. So most of the unemployed will not cost them anything in welfare payments and will be kept under control by the collective farm management.

AFAIK, agricultural collectives in the Maoist sense have more or less been dismantled, except from the standpoint that land is held in common with the rest of the collective. (Grain is grown by gigantic state-owned corporations that hire employees with no claim on the land being farmed). Each villager is responsible for his own parcel of land, meaning that the harvest belongs to him, but he needs to buy the seed, plant the crops, fertilize and water them and so on. Residents in villages located on land slated for development occasionally hit the jackpot - they get rent in perpetuity (divided by number of the residents on the village roster). The riots that occur over land issues are typically due to village chiefs who have negotiated corrupt side deals that stiff the residents. Eligibility is determined by lineage, not residency.

Villagers who move to cities can find work without residency permits. The problem they face is in getting a free public education. Getting a local residency permit that makes their children eligible is dependent on (1) local lineage, (2) marriage to a local or (3) a hefty payment to the local government.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/08/2012 23:55 Comments || Top||


Economy
Gun Sales Surge: An Obama Bounce?
The gun business is booming. The question is, why?

Smith & Wesson stock Friday was zooming, thanks to a stellar earnings report. The firearms maker also boosted its outlook for the rest of the year. Because of the strong business, its backlog of orders more than doubled from the same quarter last year, the company is concentrating on boosting production and building inventory.

“We are underserving the market at this moment, we all know that, and that's a great opportunity going forward for us,” CEO James Debney said in a conference call with analysts.

And another gun maker, Sturm, Ruger & Co., also hit a milestone of sorts in terms of meeting consumer demand. It produced its one-millionth gun of the year…well ahead of last year’s pace.

"It took us nearly all of 2011 to build one million firearms, but in 2012 we accomplished it on August 15th,” said Ruger President and CEO Mike Fifer in a statement. 

What’s driving the demand that has gun makers cranking up production?

Speculation has focused on fears of a coming regulatory crackdown on gun ownership. Liberal administrations tend to be anti-gun and so, the thinking goes, an Obama re-election would set the stage for stricter gun purchasing requirements. Hence, people are buying now in anticipation of difficulty later.

Indeed, looking at background checks for gun sales (a metric commonly used to gauge general industry performance) 2009 showed a measureable increase that many attributed to Obama’s election.

Is it the same this year? Some anecdotal evidence tends to bear that out.

“I should put Obama’s picture on the wall up there,” said one New Jersey gun salesman, asking not to be identified. “I’d name him salesman of the month!”

But it’s not universal. Some suggest it may be less about regulatory worries and more about the immediate economy.

“Sure, about a third of it is politics,” said a Maryland salesman, who also didn't want to be named. “But the majority are people concerned about safety. They are worried about crime and looking at the economy and no one having jobs. They want to be protected now. So they’re buying.”

"The biggest new group of buyers now are senior citizens," Larry Hyatt, owner of a North Carolina gun shop, said on CNBC's "Closing Bell." "Ten thousand Baby Boomers a day are turning 65; they can't run, they can't fight, they got to shoot."
Posted by: Beavis || 09/08/2012 14:30 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
US political parties serving 1 percent against 99-percenters
[Iran Press TV] An Occupy Wall Street (OWS) activist has slammed two dominant US political parties as servants of the 1 percent corporate executives, vowing that the 99-percenters will continue their struggles, Press TV reports.

"The real story of this [Democratic] convention is not what's going on inside but what's happening outside of the convention. There was a huge march there on September 2, called the March on Wall Street South (referring to Charlotte, North Carolina) where thousands of people turned out and raised the real issues that are affecting the working class people here in the United states," said Caleb Maupin, a young US political activist and OWS protester in New York during a Press TV interview on Friday.

"One of the things raised [during the march] was the [US] military budget," he said. "This military budget and the continued investment in weapons and bombs and destruction, this is not helping the American people, the people here are not benefiting from the $80 million dollars given to the state of Israel every day so it can murder Paleostinians."

Maupin insisted that an entire group of people supporting the Occupy movement have forged forces to show up at the Republican and Democratic political conventions for the past couple of weeks to push what he described as "the people's agenda," arguing that it is the Wall Street that dictates the agenda at American political party conventions.

"The people of Iran trying to produce nuclear power, is that a threat to the people of the United States? Absolutely not," he added, underlining that what is the threat to the American people is the power waged by less than 1 percent of capitalist leaders in the US over the 99 percent that oppose the corporate agenda.

The OWS movement activist further emphasized that despite persisting efforts by Democratic and Republican Party officials to push for an increasing military budget, "the struggle in the streets" is calling for jobs, healthcare and education, which are human rights,
When they're defined by the state or an NGO they don't mean much...
"and we will fight for them on the streets."

This article starring:
Caleb Maupin
Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2012 10:35 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Call to establish commission on conversions
[Dawn] Activists of civil society, human rights
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...
and other organizations on Thursday demanded that the government set up a commission comprising representatives of all religious groups to draw guidelines on faith conversions.

These concerned people had gathered at the Pakistain Institute of Labour Education and Research centre to deliberate on challenges to access to rights the non-Moslem communities faced in the country.

A resolution read out at the gathering by Mohammad Tahseen, executive director of South Asia Partnership Pakistain, and unanimously passed demanded that the state create institutional mechanisms to do away with the caste-based discrimination. The state must fulfil its obligation of treating all citizens as equals and create conditions for equal access to rights and entitlements by all.

The participants demanded that the state revise its constitutional, legal and institutional provisions leading to discrimination against non-Moslems. Articles 2 and 31 of the constitution were particularly mentioned in that regard. Parliament, being a house representing the public interest, must make necessary amendments to the constitution and system of governance that treated all citizens equally.

The meeting called for the revision of all discriminatory laws that sought to victimise the marginalised communities. It demanded immediate reforms in the blasphemy laws "that have left a very large section of the non-Moslems as well as the Moslem communities at the whims of dominant economic and social classes that abuse the law for their own benefit".

Most participants expressed concern
...meaning the brow was mildly wrinkled, the eyebrows drawn slightly together, and a thoughtful expression assumed, not that anything was actually done or indeed that any thought was actually expended...
over growing vulnerability in non-Moslem population, because of which a large number of families migrated to other countries. Their maidens of tender years were insecure and influential people kidnapped them and forcibly converted them. Elected representatives, police and local administration could not support the victim families, speakers said.

Journalist Zubeida Mustafa said the promotion of religious harmony was a must. She said the curriculums should be revised to educate the new generation according to global demands. She said there was a balanced curriculum in all major private educational institutes like those run by Christian seminaries and other non-Moslem philanthropists.

Dr Jaffar Ahmed, chairman of the Pakistain Study Centre, University of Bloody Karachi
...formerly the capital of Pakistain, now merely its most important port and financial center. It may be the largest city in the world, with a population of 18 million, most of whom hate each other and many of whom are armed and dangerous...
, stressed the need to take up the issue with political parties, because they were engaged in an election process. "It is the right time to engage with political parties to include the minorities rights issue in their election manifestos," he said.

Dr Ahmed suggested that the government evaluate educational syllabuses and take steps to reduce a rural-urban bias, religious discrimination and other differences from society.

Karamat Ali, executive director of Piler, gave a background of discrimination with religious minorities. He urged a review of discriminatory articles of the constitution. He warned that constitutional discrimination would not only affect non-Moslems, but Moslem sections also.

Peter Jacob of the National Commission on Peace and Justice said non-Moslems in Pakistain were not safe economically, socially and politically.

He also said that secularists in Pakistain should clarify what kind of secularism they wanted in the country. He gave an example of inclusive nature of secularism in India and Leb.

Mohammed Tehseen of the South Asia Partnership Pakistain said all people were equal under the constitution. He said people belonging to non-Moslem communities should be given
space in all sectors.

Dr Vijay Kumar Ahuja from Larkana said there were different mindsets in Sindh, such as fundamentalists, those who did not give importance to religious thinking and those claiming to be secular and progressive.

He said every section in society found it easy to exploit Hindus. They usually deprived minority people of their right and shares in business.

The exploitation was rampant in upper parts of Sindh -- Larkana, Sukkur, Shikarpur, Ghotki, etc. In those areas Hindus could not run their business freely.

Weersi Kolhi, Malji, Menghwal and Radha Bheel pointed out that how poor girls belonging to low-caste Hindu families were being kidnapped in different areas. Neither the police nor local administration officials took those issues seriously, they said.

Speakers observed that the concept of reserved seats was meaningless as whenever the victim families approached politicians, they did not support them.

Activists also took the issue of class-based differences within the Hindu community and criticised elected representatives who "never took those issues" to the legislatures, especially the issue of forced conversion after kidnapping of non-Moslem girls.

They said a large number of Hindus were migrating from Sindh because they felt insecurity of their girls, lives and properties. They underlined the need to change the mindset and treat low-caste people equally in society.

Earlier Zeenia Shaukat introduced the aims of the consultation. Zulfiqar Shah, Gayanchand, Hansraj, Zahid Farooq, Ellahi Bakhsh and others also spoke.

Zeenat Hisam said Piler would conduct a study on religious minorities, legal, constitutional, social and economic issues concerning the non-Moslem population.
Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2012 18:08 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  because you can't let individuals make their own decisions...
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/08/2012 23:48 Comments || Top||


Blasphemy case: IGP records girl's statement
[Dawn] In a latest development in the ongoing blasphemy saga, involving a minor girl suffering from Down syndrome, a police team led by Inspector General of Police (IGP) Islamabad, Bani Amin visited Central Jail Adiala on Wednesday and recorded a fresh statement of the girl, Dawn has learnt.

The coppers remained with the Christian girl for more than an hour and recorded her statement in connection with the blasphemy case.

The source said the Christian girl who had been languishing in the prison since she was placed in long-term storage
Don't shoot, coppers! I'm comin' out!
and sent to jail, recorded her fresh statement with the police in which she denied all of the charges levelled against her.

The source said, the girl in her statement told the police that she was at home and boiling tea when she saw a plastic bag hanging in the courtyard of her house.

She said in her statement that she saw a few papers inscribed in the Arabic script -- and because she cannot read and write the script, therefore for her the script could have meant Urdu or Persian.

As it is common practice in the locality, where there is no gas, people use twigs and paper to burn in the stove to cook food; she too put the papers into the stove.

She further said later she along with her little sister aged between 4 and 5 and a friend from her neighbourhood walked out of her home and upturned the stove in order to clean it.

The Christian girl in her statement said while she was cleaning the stove, the son of the owner of her home (landlord's son) standing outside and looking towards the girl, started shouting on seeing them throwing some burnt papers. She said the boy inquired from her younger sister that who had burnt those papers; she replied that it was her sister.

On hearing her reply, the boy started shouting which caught attention of the people in the surrounding areas who gathered there.

On seeing a large number of people gathered outside, the girl went inside her home and locked herself in the bathroom, she said in her statement recorded with the police.

She said she never knew who had brought the plastic bag inside her house and what was in it.

Whereas, Hammad Malik, the complainant of the case, had already claimed that the pages of the Holy Koran were lying in the plastic bag.

However,
the man who has no enemies isn't anybody and has never done anything...
the police have decided to investigate the neighbour, Hammad Malik, who had filed the original complaint against her.

The girl's bail proceedings will be held on Friday September 7.

Besides, the Christian girl, Mohammad Khalid Jadoon, Imam of Mehar Jaffar mosque is also in jail, since Sunday.

He will be produced before the court of magistrate on September 16.

The Imam Masjid was placed in long-term storage
Don't shoot, coppers! I'm comin' out!
by police on Sunday for allegedly desecrating the Holy Koran, after the prayer caller of his mosque, Hafiz Mohammad Zubair, testified before a magistrate that he saw him putting two pages of the Holy Koran into one of the two plastic bags seized from the girl to strengthen charges against her.
Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2012 18:08 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


EC declares KP Sports Minister's degree fake
[Dawn] The Election Commission of Pakistain on Tuesday declared the bachelor's degree of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central...
Sports Minister Syed Aqil Shah as fake, sending the case to the district and sessions judge for his trial.

A two-member bench comprising of EC members Justice (retd) Riaz Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
and Justice (Retd) Fazlur Rehman heard a case regarding Federal Minister for Postal Services Sardar Omar Gorgaij and the Awami National Party's (ANP) provincial politician Syed Aqil Shah's degrees.

Syed Aqil Shah, who is also the vice-president of the Pakistain Olympic Association (POA), headed the Pak contingent for the 2012 London Olympics as its chef de mission. Aqil Shah holds degrees from Punjab University, Bloody Karachi's
...formerly the capital of Pakistain, now merely its most important port and financial center. It may be the largest city in the world, with a population of 18 million, most of whom hate each other and many of whom are armed and dangerous...
Newport University as well as a degree from the American International College Lahore.

The bench, declaring two of Shah's degrees as fake and one as unrecognized, sent the case to the concerned district and sessions judge for further proceedings.

During the hearing, EC Member from Punjab Riaz Kayani remarked that not only did Shah hold fake degrees, he did not even bring anything home from the London Olympics.

Speaking in his defense, Shah said that he had submitted only the degree from the American International College Lahore, and that the other two degrees were a conspiracy against him.
This article starring:
American International College Lahore
Newport University
Punjab University
Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2012 10:36 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Example of wat happens when the transcripts are released.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 15:08 Comments || Top||

#2  A lot of this staff been going around.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/08/2012 15:18 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Kids begin brown-bag boycott of healthier meals

A movement protesting new federal guidelines for healthy school lunches that began in Pennsylvania has spread to Minnesota, where hundreds of students are now bringing brown bags in a boycott of the new menu.

Starting this year, there are strict limits on calories, sodium and meat portions. Whole milk is off the menu altogether, and kids are required to take a fruit or vegetable. As parents with fussy eaters might guess, some student's aren't salivating over those options.

In the halls of Rockford High School, a food fight over some simple things -- cookies, condiments and milk -- has started taking off after seniors Adam Anderson and Zach Guthrie set up a Facebook group encouraging a brown bag boycott.

Bags were prepared in advance, bearing messages like, "Where's the ranch?" and "We want our cookies." By Thursday, the school served about 150 fewer lunches than it had the day before, and students promise the movement will only continue to grow even though there may be no resolution.
Posted by: lotp || 09/08/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pretty soon there'll be a TSA station at every school entrance confiscating food "contraband". The feds aren't going to let the kiddies get the better of them!

Our liberty is being lost by the "death of a thousand cuts." How long before "We the People" get disgusted enough to do something about it? Ever?
Posted by: PBMcL || 09/08/2012 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah - easy way out of this one. Ban outside food as it might be unhealthy. Look for it to happen soon. After all, we've already established the precedent that people might make the wrong decisions when given freedom.
Posted by: gromky || 09/08/2012 1:24 Comments || Top||

#3  My grand kids are throwing out their meals. The only thing they have been eating has been pizza when offered. The cafeteria help are required to record what your children are bringing in to school to eat at lunch time. That interferes with timely lunch line flow. So the kids pack so they can eat right off and not miss their lunch.
Posted by: Dale || 09/08/2012 7:17 Comments || Top||

#4  This would rather ruin the meddlers day
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/08/2012 7:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Growth hormones in livestock must be stopped two weeks before butcher time in Europe I understand. Here continued use till butchering time. I believe antibiotics use also.
Posted by: Dale || 09/08/2012 7:33 Comments || Top||

#6  But, but, but wait! GH is harmless, harmless I tell you.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2012 8:20 Comments || Top||

#7  The Queen of America will not be happy.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/08/2012 9:10 Comments || Top||

#8  The Queen Empress of America will not be happy.

FIFY.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/08/2012 10:21 Comments || Top||

#9  My wife works in a school cafeteria she says we now have the healthiest garbage cans in school history. If the kids do not accept all parts of a balanced meal they are charged al a cart prices which charges them more for less food. Parents tell them to take the full meal and toss what you do not want.
Posted by: airandee || 09/08/2012 11:49 Comments || Top||



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