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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Woman Accidentally Shoots Husband In Head, Leaves Body In 3 Different Counties
The remains of a Scottsdale man whose wife admitted to accidentally killing him last year have been located in three separate parts of Arizona, police confirmed Thursday.

Police verified through DNA testing on Sept. 30 that the human remains found in three different counties over the course of a week late last year all were that of Dwight Tobyne. The remains were found in December 2009 by different individuals who were participating in outdoor activities in desert areas in La Paz, Pinal and Maricopa counties.

Suspect Shari Tobyne, Dwight's wife, is facing a first-degree murder charge along with the original charge of abandonment of a human body, Pubins said.

On Aug. 14, Shari confessed to detectives that she accidentally shot her husband in the head in November with a 9 mm pistol while inside their Scottsdale residence. Shari told police she planned on taking her own life because Dwight wanted to separate and end their 35-year marriage.

Shari changed her story a few times with investigators, first saying she shot Dwight in the arm, then eventually saying she shot him in the head when he tried to grab the gun away from her as she lay down next to him on the bed in the couple's apartment, police said.

Court documents say Shari said she was afraid no one would believe the death was accidental, so she wrapped Dwight's body in bedding, dragged him to the garage and then wrapped him in a tarp. She then put him into the backseat of her car and dumped his body in the desert.

Scottsdale police began investigating the case this summer after Tobyne's adult children called to report their father missing. They had not heard from him since November 2009. Shari told them that their father had left her and was possibly living in Mexico.

Scottsdale police arrested Shari after she made statements implicating herself in the circumstances surrounding the death of her husband and the disposing of his body sometime between Nov. 24 and Nov. 28, 2009, Pubins said.

Police have been searching for Dwight Tobyne's body since her admission, initially saying they were focusing on areas along Arizona 87, the Beeline Highway, northeast of the Valley, based on Shari Tobyne's statements.
And some parts of her husband may have been marinated, slow roasted, then thin sliced and served with chipotle mayonnaise on submarine sandwiches to unsuspecting Subway customers in several cities. Accidentally.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "served with chipotle mayonnaise on submarine sandwiches"

you forgot the fine Chianti.
Posted by: crosspatch || 10/08/2010 4:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Woman Accidentally Shoots Husband In Head, Leaves Body In 3 Different Counties

Oops! Gotta hate it when that happens.
Posted by: gorb || 10/08/2010 4:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like her only defense is Insanity.
Way too involved to plead accidental death.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/08/2010 5:05 Comments || Top||

#4  "He had it coming, he had it coming...."
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 10/08/2010 6:14 Comments || Top||

#5  La Paz, Pinal and Maricopa counties. Twight was an outdoorsman. He loved all three.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 7:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Just an expedited "scattering the loved one's ashes" scene.
Posted by: Grunter || 10/08/2010 8:02 Comments || Top||

#7  that is one sicko woman. she chopped him up

ewww

that would be a messy job. poor old fella
Posted by: anon1 || 10/08/2010 9:20 Comments || Top||

#8  Is there any chance coyotes involved themselves? They often range 50 miles in a night while hunting...
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/08/2010 12:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Coyotes? No, perhaps a bloodthirsty bitch!
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 12:25 Comments || Top||

#10  I have female scandiknavian relatives, I vote this is accidental; if she'd have done it on purpose there wouldn't have been any pieces to find.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/08/2010 15:28 Comments || Top||

#11  It's always the coverup that gets 'em...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/08/2010 20:11 Comments || Top||

#12  She must have remembered the movie Texas chainsaw massacre
I remember her being at the drive in when it showed
Posted by: Blackbeard Flanter9341 || 10/08/2010 23:27 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Woman mistakenly uses glue instead of eye drops
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 10:06 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  An Arizona woman accidentally close one eye when she mistook superglue for eye drops, your stuck. KSAZ-TV said Irmgard Holm of Glendale had cataract surgery a year ago. It was for what she thought was to achieve one of their half dozen eye drop medication. The burning immediately told her something seriously wrong.
Posted by: KBK || 10/08/2010 11:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Note to self: Check to make sure I didn't leave superglue in the medicine cabinet.
Posted by: gorb || 10/08/2010 12:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Similar disasters like that have been going on for years now. Besides people just not paying attention, a contributing factor is the small size of the dispensers and the extremely small print on them, just great for people with limited vision to distinguish from harmful substances in very similar containers.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 16:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Had a friend who'se wife put nasal spray in his eye instead of eye drops. Said it burned like hell. We all nearly pissed ourselves when they told the story.
Posted by: remoteman || 10/08/2010 18:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I put eyedrops in my eyeballz once instead of acid, the placebo effect is greatly over-rated
Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 10/08/2010 19:11 Comments || Top||


Why Can't This Happen to Me?
NEW Zealand police have been left red-faced after a wind change blew cannabis smoke from the station on to a Picton school on the South Island.
Dood! Ya got any brownies?
St Joseph's School principal Peter Knowles noticed the smoke while children were in class on Friday morning.
Hey, Man, sombody's smokin weed!
He went to the police station about 200 metres away, where the fire was put out straight away.
Bummer!
Senior Sergeant Peter Payne told The Marlborough Express shredded paper and a small amount of cannabis were being burned in the station's incinerator when the direction of the wind changed unexpectedly.
OOPSIES!
"A big gust just came and took it (the smoke) in a different direction. It can't be helped, it's just an act of nature," he said.

Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Amusing and somewhat funny I'll agree, but why is this posted here? Yahoo's "trending now" section maybe but not at Rantburg. Let's get focused people. This is a War on Terror blogsite. I've been lurking here since the beginning. The very beginning. Due to my own paranoia, I've only started commenting recently, but I've gleened so much knowledge from the regulars here. Let's stay on point boys and girls. The occasional "Idiot of the Day" is cool, but we will never beat an insurgency until a little cold rice and rat meat is our idea of R and R. Carry on.

P.S.

Stop picking on Joeseph Mendiola
Posted by: Lowspark || 10/08/2010 5:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Corerection to above:

Joseph
Posted by: Lowspark || 10/08/2010 5:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Correction to the abuve.

JOSEPH MENDIOLA
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 7:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Once again, this is why I think an ephemera link dump on the right main page column, just above the Sink Trap, would be a grand idea. While looking for WoT links, it's inevitable that you'll find lots of junk that is not WoT related, but you think the other Rantburgers might get a hoot out of.

It might even take over what appears to be the unused My Burg link. A simple entry box, with poster's name, brief title, and the link itself. No need to even archive or eliminate spam. At midnight all the links are just wiped.

Unless the link is by a known Rantburger, just don't click on it.

It would help to keep the main page and O Club clean, and mods could use it for posts that didn't make the main page cut, so they wouldn't just be lost.

If it needs a name, call it HALO, for High Opening, Low Oxygen.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 8:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Joseph is a big boy, he's been taking the same shit from the beginning too. Of coirse it's not like he reads anyone elses comments.
Posted by: chris || 10/08/2010 13:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Joseph M. is an oracle. He is his own justification. I'd ask him what to name my firstborn - if he read our comments. :)
Posted by: RandomJD || 10/08/2010 14:30 Comments || Top||

#7  If you don't like Short Attention Span Theater, just don't read it.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 16:27 Comments || Top||

#8  JOE!2012
Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 10/08/2010 19:13 Comments || Top||

#9  JosephM does very occasionally respond to something someone writes in a thread. But mostly he posts his links/summaries in random threads rather than use the article posting set-up Fred set up for our use.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/08/2010 22:09 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Woman’s gift to husband — a new wife
A Saudi woman who thought of an innovative way to mend fences with her husband decided to give him a present that he would not refuse — a new wife.

The unidentified couple from a village in the eastern province of Ihsaa fell off after the woman embarrassed her husband in front of relatives, the Saudi Arabic language daily Sharq reported on Friday.

“She wanted to mend fences with her husband so she decided to get him a new wife and pay all the wedding expenses,” the paper said.

“Her husband accepted the solution and married the new woman…during the wedding, the guests were told that the man’s first wife selected the bride for her husband to please him and restore his dignity.”

Under Islam, a man can have four wives at the same time but women are allowed one husband at a time.
Posted by: tipper || 10/08/2010 17:01 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hopefully none of these people will have offspring..
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/08/2010 19:11 Comments || Top||

#2  the ultimate payback
Posted by: chris || 10/08/2010 19:24 Comments || Top||

#3  ...or move to Utah.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 19:24 Comments || Top||

#4  "the man's first wife selected the bride for her husband to please him and restore his dignity."

Translation: "here. YOU deal with him." I must say, I've had days where I might have considered this option. :)
Posted by: RandomJD || 10/08/2010 20:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, it probably beats a bucket of acid in the face...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/08/2010 20:06 Comments || Top||

#6  "Just the girl for you. She's an American, and she speaks Spanish. Her name is Lorena."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 20:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Coffee alert! Moose gets the snark o the day award...
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/08/2010 20:57 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Mexico president concerned about legalizing marijuana in California.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 11:06 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  this coming from the barely legitimate president of a warlord run sh-t hole 3rd world country, if you can call it a country anymore....
Posted by: 746 || 10/08/2010 11:20 Comments || Top||

#2  He's right to be concerned - think of the hit to the Mexican economy if California grows all it's own.
Posted by: Therens Turkeyneck6360 || 10/08/2010 11:24 Comments || Top||

#3  I was going to say the same thing as T. Turkeyneck, but I..umm, forgot what it was. Hey, pass those Cheetos.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/08/2010 11:44 Comments || Top||

#4  He's worried about lower prices ruining the profit margin. Just one more reason for me to vote yes on Prop 19.
Posted by: AuburnTom || 10/08/2010 11:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey, Calderon - contrary to what you apparently believe, the USA ain't your country.

Butt out and clean up your own goddam mess of a "country" first.

FOAD.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/08/2010 14:56 Comments || Top||

#6  When El Presidente de Mexico gets a standing ovation from the democrats in congress after trashing the Arizona immigration bill, what did anyone expect from him. He thinks Arizona and now the U.S. is open to his scorn and interferance.
Posted by: R.U. Cereus || 10/08/2010 16:07 Comments || Top||


Ecuadorian president denies plan to dissolve parliament
(Xinhua) -- Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa denies on Wednesday any plan to dissolve the National Assembly and to advance general elections.

"We do not see the need" of dissolving the National Assembly, Correa said, adding that there was no difficulty for it to vote on the government's law projects.

"We will not dissove the assembly, because there are decent people in the assembly, who have decided to unite, to create a great front to defend democracy," Correa told the press.

However, due to policemen's riot last week, the government mentioned the possibility of dissolving the assembly, Correa said.

Correa said that in Ecuador there was a risk of destabilizing democracy because there is people "of counter revolutionary ideology," but his government would not allow the formation of paramilitary groups in the country.

According to Correa, the police rebellion on Sept. 30 was the result of "hate and misinformation", as the opposition had infiltrated them.

Correa said that each day there was more evidence to prove that the police rebellion had been planed and it did not have labor goals, but to conspire against his government and kill him. He added that never again he would allow people to attempt against the Ecuadorian government.

After the police rebellion on Thursday, many opposition sectors urged on Wednesday dissolution of the assembly.
Posted by: Fred || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Commies


'Cubans victims of US state terrorism'
[Iran Press TV] Cuban President Raul Castro urges the US to stop vacillating in its fight against terrorism, as Washington protects snuffies involved in the death of dozens of Cubans.

Addressing the families of Cuban victims of terrorism on Wednesday, Castro said his country urged US President Barack B.O. Obama to "abide by his commitment to fight terrorism and act with determination and without double standards against those who, from US territory, have perpetrated and continue to perpetrate terrorist acts against Cuba," AFP reported.

In a speech marking the inauguration of "Victims of State Terrorism Day," the Cuban president lashed out at Washington for failing to take into account Cuba's offers of assistance in combating terrorism between 2001 and 2002.

Raul Castro, younger brother of Fidel Castro, also demanded the US release five Cuban detainees. Cuba maintains the five men were protecting Havana from snuffies that could have come from the United States.

The Cuban president further pointed out that the US still protects men wanted for alleged involvement in terrorist attacks against Cuba that killed dozens of people. Castro said Luis Posada Carriles and Orlando Bosch are living quietly in Miami and without being punished.

A total of 73 people were assassinated on October 6, 1976, when a bomb exploded aboard a Cubana de Aviacion passenger plane that had just taken off from Barbados.

The victims were mainly young people, and the perpetrators of this terrorist attack had proven links with the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and remain unpunished and protected in the United States.

On Wednesday, the Cuban Council of State passed a decree officially declaring October 6 as the Day of the Victims of State Terrorism.
Posted by: Fred || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  About those terrorists, how's about the ones Cuba has been protecting?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 4:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Cubans victims of US state terrorism

Fixed it
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/08/2010 12:14 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Anti-whaling activist says Sea Shepherd sank its own ship
A former Sea Shepherd activist on Thursday accused the militant conservation group of deliberately sinking one of its own ships as a publicity stunt after a collision with a Japanese whaler.

New Zealander Pete Bethune labelled Sea Shepherd's leadership "morally bankrupt" for allegedly ordering the hi-tech trimaran Ady Gil to be scuttled after it collided with a Japanese whaler last January in the Southern Ocean.

Bethune, the Ady Gil's captain, said Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson ordered the ship's sinking to "garner sympathy with the public and to create better TV" in the publicity battle against Japan's Antarctic whaling program.

"It was definitely salvageable, it was still rock solid from the engine room back," he told Radio New Zealand.

Bethune, who spent five months in custody in Japan earlier this year after illegally boarding the same whaler Shonan Maru II a month after the high-seas collision, said he had cut all ties with Sea Shepherd.

"I think an organisation that relies on public money and public generosity to survive has an obligation to be honest," he said.

Watson denied the allegations, saying Bethune was bitter over his falling out with the organisation.

"No one ordered him to scuttle it. Pete Bethune was captain of the Ady Gil, all decisions on the Ady Gil were his," he said.

Sea Shepherd distanced itself from Bethune when he as awaiting trial in Japan earlier this year for boarding the Shonan Maru II but later said it was a ploy to try to ensure the activist received a light sentence.

Bethune was given a two-year suspended sentence in the Tokyo District Court last July after pleading guilty to obstructing commercial activities, trespass, vandalism and carrying a knife, with which he cut the ship's security netting.

Japan hunts whales in Antarctic waters using a loophole in a 1986 international moratorium which allows "lethal research".

The hunt has resulted in a spate of high-seas confrontations in recent years as conservation groups such as Sea Shepherd and Greenpeace seek to disrupt the Japanese fleet's activities.
Posted by: 746 || 10/08/2010 09:24 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  nothing so damaging as an internal spat.

i tend to like sea shepherd. nobody else is enforcing the law of the sea to protect the creatures that live there.

i like them. i don't like japanese whaling.

there are too many humans on this earth and we are obliterating all the other creatures. I like to see the other species given a chance.

everyone on the planet from now on should have no more than 2 children each.
Posted by: anon1 || 10/08/2010 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  While I suspected nothing less, this is a very serious accusation in maritime law. It admits conducting an act of piracy (ramming), and criminal fraud if insurance was on that ship.

The insurance company will *have* to order an inquest, both forced to by their underwriters, and by the rest of the industry. There is no sense of humor about these things.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  1/ the "research" is legal.
2/ Whether you lie or dislkie something doesn't change it's legality.
3/ There are not too many humans on the planet. If you really beleive that you'd not be posting as you'd be dead.
4/ just end subsidies for sex.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/08/2010 10:29 Comments || Top||

#4  anon1: There is a lot of deception out there, so it would be wise to question your assumptions.

1) Hong Kong is a livable city, and doesn't feel particularly crowded, but if every single person in the world lived in a city of that density, it would be about the size of the State of Maine, and the rest of the Earth would be empty. If done at the same density as a typical US suburban area, all humans would fit into the State of Texas.

70% of people in the US now living in metro areas of big cities. All the rest of the US is divided by the remaining 100m people in low density.

Poverty stricken Bangladesh has both a high literacy rate, and the people live on some of the richest farmland in the world. They are poor solely because of the effects of Islam and socialism.

They have more government employees per capita than the US, and their largest government agency is in charge of management of their primary national crop: the near worthless fiber called jute. They grow this as a condition to get international aid, otherwise they would be too competitive with agricultural crops, and a hundred times wealthier.

2) As many as a third of animals recently declared extinct have be discovered later to still be alive. Often times, extinction is confused because the same species has different breeds, and just a breed has died out.

Perhaps the biggest cause of extinction is the man-made or natural introduction of a foreign species that overwhelms a local species by natural selection. But this usually only happens on islands, or where that other species is over adapted to just one place.

3) Overfishing could be solved in short order with mid latitude fish farms. Fish raised at sea, but inside nets descending from pontoons. Done away from the coasts, the ocean cleans and aerates their habitat, and they gain as much weight as the fish food they are fed.

A few square miles of such a farm could handle most of the food fish needs for Japan. Conversely, a farm could be used for breed and release of endangered fish.

This leads to the next solution: intentional overbreeding of endangered species and desirable animals works. Be it dragonflies, bats, frogs, bees, plants, whatever. If you want more, breed and release, and you'll have more.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 10:34 Comments || Top||

#5 
everyone on the planet from now on should have no more than 2 children each.

So that's 4 per couple, right?

BTW, who do you think should enforce your edict? I'm curious.
Posted by: Parabellum || 10/08/2010 11:07 Comments || Top||

#6  ..at the same time they're messing around with recovered Siberian mammoth DNA to revive a dead species. Then watch the entertainment as the goal lines are moved when species can be successfully resurrected and sustained through DNA.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 11:59 Comments || Top||

#7 

i tend to like sea shepherd. nobody else is enforcing the law of the sea to protect the creatures that live there.


Enforcing the law of the sea would mean pirates like "Sea Shepherd" swinging from the yardarms.

Personally, I got no problem with that.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/08/2010 12:28 Comments || Top||

#8  "BTW, who do you think should enforce your edict?"

I understand the 10:10 organization is available. And experienced.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/08/2010 15:01 Comments || Top||

#9  If there was a show supporting the Japanese point of view I'd support it. I despise those tree-hugging, enviro-terrorists. If they want to save the whales, they need to buy bigger bathtubs.
Posted by: Pancho Angise6853 || 10/08/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#10  There is a show supporting the Japanese; its called Whale Wars.

They are a menace on the sea, to themselves and to others, and are lucky the Japanese do not man their ships with Maltese Sea Tunafishers.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/08/2010 17:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Anon1 - Extinction is a perfectly natural process which has been going on for millions of years.

By preventing a species from going extinct you are actually interfering with the natural process.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/08/2010 18:44 Comments || Top||

#12  Noofeees everywhere hate Sea Sphepherd stealing they're names.

:(
Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 10/08/2010 19:15 Comments || Top||

#13  there are too many humans on this earth and we are obliterating all the other creatures. I like to see the other species given a chance.


Fine with me, anon1. Feel free to man up and move to the head of the Soylent Green production line for the benefit of the ducks and fluffy bunnies.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/08/2010 19:38 Comments || Top||


Economy
Bank of America halts foreclosures in 50 states. Should be an interesting day on Wall Street.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 13:27 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No house price falls and asset write-offs.
No recovery.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/08/2010 13:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Here's why.

http://boingboing.net/2010/09/23/bank-of-america-fore.html
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/08/2010 13:56 Comments || Top||

#3  BoA and others have been found filing false papers before the courts as in RJ's link. They're aware enough that frequency can be interpreted as intent. If the misrepresentation is great enough they move themselves into RICO territory. Then it's not just on the wrist slaps from the regulators, but seizure of all tainted assets and profits which can be applied to the upper echelon operators of the company. Those profits, stock options, and bonuses become fair game. Heh.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 14:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Which is why you saw an obscure 'banking bill' about courts being required to accept out of state notary public certifications fly through the Senate by unanimous consent this past week.

Just a coincidence, of course ...
Posted by: Steve White || 10/08/2010 14:32 Comments || Top||

#5  They're aware enough that frequency can be interpreted as intent. Not only that, but some of the papers are affidavits signed under oath that the signer has personal knowledge of the facts he is attesting too, when in fact he DID NOT have that knowledge. That can easily be interpreted as a fraud on the court those papers were presented to. Just one incident should be enough to jug someone. Just one incident. What the judge and the court system decide to do about each of these frauds is up to them.
Another point of interest is that the US gov't owns GMAC financing and Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac, all implicated in this foreclosure-fraud scandal. Can someone file a RICO-type lawsuit against the Federal government?
Another point of interest is the law behind securitization of mortgages, which seems to state that a gap in the documentation renders the security (1) void & possibly a fraud committed when they were sold to a sucker investor and (2) not tax-exempt from day zero, both on the federal and state level.
Should be a great employment opportunity for title researchers, forensic accountants & both criminal and civil lawyers.
NO senator who voted for the POS legislation designed to 'streamline' notarizations across state lines should be returned to office, not a single one. That was another legal scam they tried to foist on the people. The 2 CO senators who voted for the bill have done a 180 and now praise Obama, who said he would veto the bill one way or the other. They provided no excuse for their previous support of this #*&*@Q!
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 15:49 Comments || Top||

#6  So... isn't there a Bank of America Tower building somewhere Fred can forclose on?

If nothing else it'll take care of the RightHaven fund.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/08/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Fannie and Freddie were the prime movers in mortgage securitization, which I have pointed out before is a train wreck waiting to happen.

Banks limit their risk to the capital they have and are willing to put at risk. Governments have no such constraints and can pile up unlimited risk.

All this foreclosure debacle means is the wheels fall off the train before it runs off the rails and not after.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/08/2010 18:58 Comments || Top||

#8  I guess Wall Street likey. Dow closed over 11,000 for the first time in months today.

Hmmmm.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/08/2010 19:01 Comments || Top||

#9  a train wreck waiting to happen. happening.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/08/2010 19:01 Comments || Top||

#10  From the cited article: "We haven't found any problems in the foreclosure process," Bank of America President and CEO Brian Moynihan said in an appearance before the National Press Club in Washington.
He must be ignorant of Jason Grodensky of South Florida. Jason owned his home outright & NEVER had a mortgage on it from anyone. Despite these facts, Moynihan's Bank of America "foreclosed" on his home & took it from him. That was 7/2010. Yeah, that was NO problem for Brian, whose sycophants and supporters all say he's doing a heckuva job.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 23:19 Comments || Top||

#11  I thought I'd never see this happen. Obama actually did something right.
See this.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 23:59 Comments || Top||


Finally some good news - Ford September sales climb 46 percent.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 10:51 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  do they make a pickup truk?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/08/2010 11:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Yep. The F-150s are selling like hotcakes. Probably being used by yet-to-be-documented workers who are assisting with the yet-to-be-legal drug and more yet-to-be-documented workers.
Posted by: gorb || 10/08/2010 12:36 Comments || Top||

#3  drink up! First round in the O Club is on Gorb
Posted by: Frank G || 10/08/2010 13:41 Comments || Top||

#4  You instigated it, with your q-post.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/08/2010 14:06 Comments || Top||

#5  The F-150 made me do it. >:-}
Posted by: gorb || 10/08/2010 14:43 Comments || Top||

#6  I have 2 different F-series in my drive, thinking of trading one in for a newer model, maybe one of these
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 16:01 Comments || Top||

#7  How is Government Motors doing?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/08/2010 17:15 Comments || Top||

#8  meh,dodge makes pu trucks.... here's why Ford is going to win.... Owner Aim....

Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 10/08/2010 19:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Holey Freeeholey.... LOL.. with modern tires, punching German hippies....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GERzNQGmxEQ&feature=player_embedded
Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 10/08/2010 19:37 Comments || Top||

#10  #4: You instigated it, with your q-post.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain


OK, blame the fisherman for the bait used, why dontcha?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/08/2010 20:26 Comments || Top||


Greedy government oppresses more of the working class by laying people off
Private companies added 64,000 new jobs in September but more government layoffs means a net loss of 95,000 jobs. The unemployment rate remained unchanged at 9.6 percent.

It was the fourth straight month of net losses due to dropping government payrolls and little hiring in the private sector.
and...
The jobless rate has now topped 9.5 percent for 14 straight months, the longest stretch since the 1930s.
Bambi is right. The recession is over. It is a depression now and he and his goons are to blame for it.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/08/2010 10:21 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's the greedy taxpayers. The government would be very happy to keep on hiring if the taxpayers would just give them more blood money.
Posted by: DoDo || 10/08/2010 11:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't forget:

As Gallup said in their report yesterday, layoffs in the private sector turned up sharply in Sept. and probably were missed by the government report. Therefore the job situation is probably worse than reported in the private sector.

Posted by: Frozen Al || 10/08/2010 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  ..once businesses got through the 'back to school' sales and activity, they could cut expenses with fewer employees. Several states have a sales tax moratorium on school related supplies and clothes for a weekend just before the academic year begins. Big sales weekend. Expect a retail business blip for that time. People will still spend on 'necessities'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 12:03 Comments || Top||

#4  The good news is that government payrolls are down. Specifically, according to a discussion I heard on NPR this afternoon, at the state and local level, as the sub-federal governments strive to bring spending closer to actual tax receipts. As one of the interviewees said, they have thirty years of sub-federal spending to catch up on, so it's going to take a while -- hopefully less than the thirty years it took to get there, was my startled thought.

Federal payroll levels aren't going to fall until we get veto-proof Republican majorities in both House and Senate... if those Republicans are all firmly in the smaller government camp.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/08/2010 22:55 Comments || Top||


Broad increase in building activity - Sorry, not in Obamaland.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 09:18 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One thing the USA needs to build is nuclear power plants. I doubt that will happen. What our feckless leaders are focused on instead is more housing and more office space.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 16:10 Comments || Top||


High unemployment rate "new normal" for U.S., says Stiglitz
(Xinhua) -- Even if U.S. economy manages to grow, it will be too slow to provide enough jobs needed and high unemployment rate will be a new normal for Americans, said Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz on Wednesday.
It's just 'funemployment' anyway ...
Speaking at the 7th World Business Forum, an annual symposium regarded as the world's most influential management forum, in New York, Stiglitz warned that the U.S. economy is "still not out of the woods yet" and even risks slipping into a Japanese-style malaise.

Asked how he sees conditions one year from now, Stiglitz said that the economy probably is not going to be a disaster, and there may be positive growth. But, he continued, the growth will be too slow compared with demand for jobs, and the unemployment rate will possibly stay above nine percent, or even ten percent.

"Much higher unemployment is the new normal," he said.

Although the recession officially ended in June 2009, as the U. S. National Bureau of Economic Research announced last month, main street has not experienced the comeback as their Wall Street counterparts, and jobless rate has remained at record-high levels.

Economists are expecting zero jobs growth and an unemployment rate inching up to 9.7 percent from 9.6 percent in the most- watched September jobs report, which is scheduled to be released this coming Friday.

Unlike many who criticized the B.O. regime's stimulus measures, Stiglitz said the first stimulus package did work, helping prevent unemployment rate from soaring to 13 percent. But it was too small and was not well-designed, Stiglitz said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good news for Obama. His policies are working. Too many employed people vote Republican.
Posted by: gromky || 10/08/2010 4:28 Comments || Top||

#2  the U.S. economy is "still not out of the woods yet" and even risks slipping into a JapaneseCarter-style malaise.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/08/2010 8:50 Comments || Top||

#3  hopefully there will be a lot of Democrat politicians enjoying the fruits of their own policies November 3rd
Posted by: Frank G || 10/08/2010 8:52 Comments || Top||

#4  From BLS a few minutes ago:

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Nonfarm payroll employment edged down (-95,000) in September, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 9.6 percent. Government employment declined (-159,000), reflecting both a drop in the number of temporary workers for Census 2010 and job losses in local government. Private-sector payroll employment continued to trend up modestly (+64,000).
Posted by: lord garth || 10/08/2010 8:57 Comments || Top||

#5  "Much higher unemployment is the new normal," he said.


& we have to learn to live with the Soviets, right?

Posted by: anonymous2u || 10/08/2010 8:59 Comments || Top||

#6  US jobs have been exported to China.

To reverse the trend, put tariffs on Chinese imports.

Simple, really.
Posted by: anon1 || 10/08/2010 9:25 Comments || Top||

#7  forgot to add: Tariffs on Chinese imports will reverse the damage from the artificially pegged Yuan.

But to really boost employment, the US Government needs to stop giving US taxes away to third world countries (Aid) and the UN.

Charity begins at home.

Those billions upon billions of dollars could instead be used to fund roads, garbage collection, sewage treatment, water and electricity provision, public hospitals and schools. Free health and dental care - if only you spend US taxes on services for US citizens.

This creates the kind of jobs that can't be exported to China.

Sure the UN bureaucrats lose their 5-star hotel stays for conferences, but who cares about that?

and a few african nations lose their entire GDP but tough cheddar. It's time their people felt a bit of starvation so they throw out the corrupt fools running them so badly in the first place.

Posted by: anon1 || 10/08/2010 9:30 Comments || Top||

#8  anon1,

Let's just say I disagree with almost everything you said.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/08/2010 10:21 Comments || Top||

#9  anon1

Regarding tariffs. If we place a tariff on imports from China, it risks a trade war. A trade war might result in a world wide recession (or re-recession). Even if it doesn't result in a trade war and even if China doesn't impose tariffs in return, it would raise the cost of retail goods for just about everybody in the US and also raise the cost of doing business for US companies that use Chinese components.
Posted by: lord garth || 10/08/2010 11:05 Comments || Top||

#10  Nobody even dare to think about revising NAFTA, GATT/WTO. Just close your eyes and think of England.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 10/08/2010 11:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Preceeded by decades of "Giant Sucking Sounds"...... High unemployment rate "new normal" for U.S., says Stiglitz
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 11:12 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm curious about the trade war fears. We have exported a huge percentage of our maufacturing jobs, decimated much of the agricultural infrastructure, and exhausted the reservoir of equity in our homes. Either we continue down the path of being a bankrupty 1st world power (for now) with a 3rd world economy, or we make structural changes to the post-Bretton Woods agreements regarding world trade. Clearly, it is foolish and naive to think the Chinese will change their policies to anything approaching genuine freee trade, so what alternative is there to re-invigorating our domestic manufacturing base through some forms of protectionism and tariffs to punish currency manipulation.
As an aside, China's economy is based much more on our exporting wealth than many believe. Their violent reactions are to be anticipated, but do you really think waiting will be a better course of action?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/08/2010 11:32 Comments || Top||

#13  When the dollar does collapse, suddenly labor costs in the US will be very competitive. When that happens watch all the foreign scolds warning the US about 'tariffs and trade wars' start to erect just exactly that against US products.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 11:45 Comments || Top||

#14  Preceeded by decades of "Giant Sucking Sounds"...... High unemployment rate "new normal" for U.S., says Stiglitz

In socialist and top down command economies, high unemployment is a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: badanov || 10/08/2010 11:49 Comments || Top||

#15  The US is being controlled by those who consider themselves "citizens of the world" or "global citizens" for the new multi-national corporations and couldn't give a whoot about the United States and the people who live there. Have money, will travel. We will be third world before you know it if we continue on this course.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 10/08/2010 12:07 Comments || Top||

#16  I'll take.... "Third World" and a fresh startover Charlie, as long as Obama resides elsewhere.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 12:10 Comments || Top||

#17  Obama,lol.

Obama's new National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, from Wikipedia:

He worked as Executive Vice President for Law and Policy at Fannie Mae, the federally-chartered mortgage finance company. This line on his resume raised eyebrows when his appointment to the Obama transition team was announced, given that the company had been seized by federal regulators.[13] The Washington Times reported that Donilon made millions for work that included supervising Fannie Mae's lobbying against increased regulation.[14]

Before his appointment to the Obama Administration, Donilon was a partner in the Washington law firm O'Melveny & Myers, where he advised companies and their boards on a range of "sensitive governance, policy, legal and regulatory matters." [10] His previous year's income, in a 2009 report, was reported by The Wall Street Journal to have been $3.9 million; his clients included Citigroup, Inc., Goldman, Sachs & Co., and Obama fundraiser and heiress Penny Pritzker.[1]

Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 10/08/2010 12:40 Comments || Top||

#18  When the dollar does collapse, suddenly labor costs in the US will be very competitive.

Should that happen, US laborers will also be faced with gasoline well north of $5/gal, higher prices for everything imported, and an even worse credit market than exists now. Other countries will not need to erect trade barriers, since the $ won't buy much in other countries. China & the US are closely linked. A drop in China's exports to the US may well hurt them much more than it hurts us.


High unemployment in the US results from many different bad policies, aggressively pursued over decades. Now we are reaping what we have sowed. The simple answer to that problem is that there are no simple answers. There is a lot of pain ahead for the electorate.

Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 16:22 Comments || Top||

#19  I expect that those other countries will buy enough politicians to overcome the obstruction of the watermelon green crowd to get to secure and cheap sources of oil which will stabilize the price of domestic supplies.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 19:29 Comments || Top||

#20  Anon1,

This is the problem. Nearly 50% of GDP is consumed by federal, state & local government spending. Add another 20-25% for the imposed cost of federal, state & local regulation and you're left with perhaps 25% of GDP trying in vain to support the unproductive 75% that's dragging it down. Want jobs? Kill off government spending & regulation. Nothing else will work, probably not even in the short term.
Posted by: AzCat || 10/08/2010 23:44 Comments || Top||

#21  Instead of a tariff on Chinese goods, just do safety testing on them at the border. They won't do it themselves, so we'll do it for them. Bad goods get returned to sender at the importer's expense, and the cost of testing gets passed onto the importer whether it fails or not.

Rinse and repeat until China figures it out.

AFAIAC, no testing is one of the contributing factors to their low prices.
Posted by: gorb || 10/08/2010 23:59 Comments || Top||


Europe
Jews flee Malmö as anti-Semitism grows
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 09:23 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  i am always wary of articles that don't really quantify. How many jews have fled malmo? it didn't say

what was the jewish population of Malmo in 2000 vs 2010?

doesn't say.

so it's a bit vague really. just another whinge about people saying 'damn jew'... doesn't amount to the same story it would be if it said: 2000 jewish families have fled malmo over the past 10 years because of anti-semitic attacks
Posted by: anon1 || 10/08/2010 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh, so how many Jews have to be run out of Sweden by Muslims and fascists until it matters to you?
Posted by: No I am The Other Beldar || 10/08/2010 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  I detect something of a pattern:

1940 August 3 Hitler tells the new German ambassador to Paris, Otto Abetz, that he wants to resolve the Jewish problem for all of Europe and that he wants to force the conquered countries (and persuade Germany's allies) to send their Jewish citizens away, not to Madagascar, but to the United States
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 11:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I see a good possibility here, that could do much to remedy the situation peacefully. Jews should make it a point to culturally vilify Malmö. Publicly and artistically damn the place, implying that those who live their are antisemitic and immoral, in the old, and not fashionable sense of the word.

Though it is the third largest city in Sweden, equate it with a place of low culture, backwardness, ignorance and bigotry.

Do to them what Samuel Taylor Coleridge did to Porlock, which has lived under his cultural curse since the early 19th Century. And theirs is just a minor curse, calling them chatty dullards and petty bourgeoisie.

City fathers around the world react painfully to even the hint of such things, as it can ruin tourism and other business, and make their citizens the butt of jokes, sarcasm and offense. And once started, it doesn't stop. Unless they work quickly to reverse the premise, they could be stuck with it for good.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/08/2010 11:42 Comments || Top||

#5  .. but to the United States

However, they don't want you to know who obstructed that.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 11:50 Comments || Top||


Anti-austerity protests in Europe
I s'pose it's something to do, when one isn't working.
That's their whole problem in a nutshell. If only they had 'funemployment' like we do they wouldn't be angry and rioting ...
[Al Jazeera] Fresh protests have been staged across several European countries over plans by respective governments to bring about greater austerity.

Public servants in Greece went on a 24-hour strike while thousands took to the streets in Bulgaria and Macedonia on Thursday to protest against policies to raise the retirement age.

About 10,000 workers protested in Sofia, the Bulgarian capital, against a plan by the nation's conservative government to raise the retirement age to 65. The country's Confederation of Independent Trade Unions is demanding that the age be kept unchanged -- 63 for men and 60 for women.

Unions said they will keep protesting until a formal agreement is reached.

Meanwhile,
...back at the ranch...
in Macedonia, more than 2,000 uniformed police officers marched through the capital of Skopje to protest at changes to their retirement age.

The police officers gathered outside the country's constitutional court to dispute its decision to repeal provisions that had allowed them to retire after 40 years of service, no matter what their age.

In Romania, President Trajan Basescu refused to sign a pension bill passed by the national parliament that would make men and women retire at the age of 65.

Women workers in Romania currently retire at 58 and men at 62.

Basescu sent the legislation, which has been validated by Romania's constitutional court, back to parliament. Romania's two main opposition parties have threatened to impeach Basescu if he signs the bill into law.

Greek strike
Greek public sector workers walked out of their jobs protesting against EU and International Monetary Fund (IMF) prescribed austerity measures.

Air traffic controllers joined Thursday's strike, widely affecting flights in and out of Greece. Schools and some public services shut down, while public hospitals worked with emergency staff.

The austerity measures have hit civil servants particularly hard, with wages cut by an average of 15 per cent, in addition to tax hikes and a pension freeze agreed to help restore the country's finances in return for a 110 billion euro ($154bn) EU/IMF bailout.

"Thank God I do not have a family. I would be in great trouble. They have slashed my salary by 20 per cent," Christos Kourniotis, 44, a public school teacher marching in Athens, said. "We cannot go on like this."

But turnout at protest rallies during the day were comparitively low. Protesters held banners reading "Tax the rich" and "No sacrifices for the IMF".

The government this week announced further belt-tightening in next year's draft budget. The economy is seen contracting by 2.6 per cent in 2011, after a 4 per cent slump this year.

"2011 will be a tough year, but our aim is to work together - state, citizens, social partners - to turn 2011 into the last year of recession. We can do it," George Papandreou, the prime minister, told parliament on Thursday.

Private sector union GSEE has said it will not strike any time soon, easing pressure on the ruling Socialists as they struggle to pull Greece out of its worst recession since 1979.

But civil servants say they are not going to back down.

"We will keep protesting, demanding that the new budget does not include any further salary cuts," Ilias Iliopoulos, general secretary of public sector union ADEDY, said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Being poor ain't fun...no matter where you live. Besides its all relative, their parents could have been born in the Congo or Arizona...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/08/2010 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/08/2010 3:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Ilias Iliopoulos, your members could get jobs outside the extortion funded sector.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/08/2010 6:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Tax the rich, feed the poor,
'til there are no rich no more

Then yer screwed.
Posted by: Spot || 10/08/2010 8:05 Comments || Top||

#5  * PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > [UK] ROYAL NAVY TO REDUCE TO ITS SMALLEST SIZE EVER TO SAVE CARRIERS.

The bankrupt, anarchic, chaotic beginnings of our future OWG STARFLEET COMMAND + SHADO [OWG Supreme HQ, Alien Defense Organization]???

OLD PERSN DREAM/VISIONS = STRANGE-LOOKING, "HYBRID/HERMAPHRODITE", NOT-"ROBOTECH" USN = OWG AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, ETC. OFF [future]GUAM???

NOT "ROBOTECH", nor the "WHITE SHIPS" OF THE ONCE-N-FUTURE CPLAN = CHIN NAVY, PLAAF???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/08/2010 21:49 Comments || Top||


French police deny racism charge over ethnic files
(KUNA) -- The French Interior Ministry on Thursday denied allegations that a special unit formed to fight "itinerant delinquency" had compiled a listing and files based on peoples ethnic origins.

A statement from the Interior Ministry said that "a genealogical filing system" had been removed in 2007 in line with legal demands.

French daily "Le Monde" claimed on Thursday that the Central Office for the Fight against Itinerant Delinquency (OCLDI) had recourse to files complied using ethnic criteria.

Such files, based on genealogical characteristics or information, are illegal in France.

The Interior Ministry also pointed out that the Gendarmes were in charge of the OCLDI and they had joined the Interior Ministry authority only in 2009, and as soon as the issue of ethnic profiling emerged the Interior Ministry set up a control group to oversee the data base question. France has been in the international spotlight for deporting thousands of Roma gypsies in past months, despite European Union criticism of the operation and complaints the deportations violate both EU and human rights laws.

French police officially deny that they were targeting the Roma gypsies, who originated from Rumania and Bulgaria, but evidence has emerged that specific orders were given in circulars issued by police authorities to target the Roma "notably," when dismantling make-shift camps throughout France.

The government here said that the deportations were voluntary and it paid Euros 300 (USD 415) to each returning adult agreeing to go back to Rumania and Euros 100 for each child.
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Home Front: Culture Wars
Non-MSM news section: Report: Pistol shots preceded Kent St. shootings
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 14:13 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dear on duty MOD. Please correct to 'Non-MSM'... my apologies.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 14:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "Pistol shots preceded Kent St. shootings"

Maybe so, but the 'Kent St. shooting" was also idiots throwing rocks and bottles at men with loaded guns.

As I said at the time, if you think it's OK to throw rocks and bottles at people, whether or not they have guns, stand right there while I throw some at you.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/08/2010 14:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Larry Niven wrote some rules to follow about Life.

1. Don't throw shit at an armed man.
2. Don't stand next to someone throwing shit at an armed man.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/08/2010 16:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Didn't the so-called students set fire to an ROTC building the previous day (or earlier in the week)?

Somehow this little tidbit is always omitted in the MSM accounts - the 'students' were _not_ peaceful protesters.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/08/2010 19:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Four dead in O-hi-o...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/08/2010 19:40 Comments || Top||

#6  It was a good start left unfinished if you ask me.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 10/08/2010 20:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Didn't the so-called students set fire to an ROTC building the previous day (or earlier in the week)?

Yes they did and trashed/looted downtown Ravenna the adjoining town. For about as balanced a story of the events check James Michener's Kent State. The left hates it because no one comes out as the devil or angels.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/08/2010 21:02 Comments || Top||


Food Stamp Nation
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/08/2010 12:41 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would rather every American citizen be on food stamps , rather than send "relief" everywhere else in the world like we have been doing for so many years now.
Posted by: chris || 10/08/2010 12:55 Comments || Top||

#2  A less affluent America survived a Depression and world war without anything like the 99 weeks of unemployment insurance, welfare payments, earned income tax credits, food stamps, rent supplements, day care, school lunches and Medicaid we have today.
How the country has changed. Anyone wishing to recall what people were like back then should read "The Worst Hard Time", about people surviving the Dust Bowl, a teacher who worked for no pay for years just to keep her local school system going, families eating pickled tumbleweed, a farmer dying in agony of an untreated abdominal catastrophe rather than seek medical care, and the once-richest man in town giving his last $100 to a needy cowboy & his family.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/08/2010 15:58 Comments || Top||

#3  One of the comments is a classic:

bill Wrote:

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A....

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise.....they all failed, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.



Don't forget the most famous Russian saying "They pretended to pay us....We pretended to work."


Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) Remember, there is a test coming up. The mid-term election in 2010!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/08/2010 18:29 Comments || Top||

#4  ION RUSSIA TODAY > WORLD ECONOMY [State Economies] BREAKS-UP WITH US. Moving away from historical reliance on the US Economy as ULTIMATE "CONSUMER OF LAST RESORT" ECON-SAVIOR, in favor of RUSSIA + CHINA + BRIC, etal.

and

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > YOUTUBE VIDEO: CASH CLASH? | CROSSTALKS: IS CASH WORLD WAR COMING???

* DER SPIEGEL > FOREIGN FIRMS HOPING TO RIDE US RAIL BOOM. OBAMA'S HIGH-SPEED REVOLUTION [Bammer favored nationwide high-speed railsys = may start as early as 2013].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/08/2010 21:40 Comments || Top||



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  Qari Ziauddin ID'd as a Zap-ee
Tue 2010-10-05
  French police arrest 11 people with suspected Islamic extremists links
Mon 2010-10-04
  Six killed as NATO oil tankers ambushed in Islamabad
Sun 2010-10-03
  Drone strikes kill 18 in North Waziristan
Sat 2010-10-02
  US drone strike kills six in Pakistan
Fri 2010-10-01
  Imagine that: Dozens of NATO oil tankers attacked in Pakistan
Thu 2010-09-30
  'Obama gives Pakistan ultimatum'
Wed 2010-09-29
  Cross-border heli raids kill 9 in Pakistan
Tue 2010-09-28
  Israeli Navy escorts Gaza-bound activist boat to Ashdod
Mon 2010-09-27
  Sonny Jong Un gets promoted!
Sun 2010-09-26
  Drone boys rack up 7 more in North Wazoo
Sat 2010-09-25
  US walks out of Ahmadinejad UN speech
Fri 2010-09-24
  MILF drop separatist demands


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