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Afghanistan
Taliban winning, NATO losing in Afghanistan: Kasuri
“Kasuri is basically asking NATO to surrender and to negotiate with the Taliban.”
Senior Pakistani officials are urging NATO countries to accept the Taliban and work towards a new coalition government in Kabul, the Daily Telegraph reported on Wednesday.

According to the report, Pakistani Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri has said in private briefings to foreign ministers of some NATO member states that the Taliban are winning the war in Afghanistan and NATO is bound to fail. Kasuri has advised against sending more troops. “Kasuri is basically asking NATO to surrender and to negotiate with the Taliban,” a Western official who met the foreign minister recently told the Daily Telegraph. The remarks were made on the eve of NATO’s critical summit in Latvia.
Surrender? Did Mr ISI say "pretty please"?
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  With the Democrats in charges, it's certainly worth asking.
Posted by: Uneamp Griling5367 || 11/30/2006 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  NATO isn't losing, but allowing Afghan mosques to broadcast jihad incitement, under the cover of "freedom of religion," is hardly a winning strategy. I would blow up those mosques at Friday Prayers, when the most pious idiots can be fed 500 pounders.

Imagine allowing Nazi propaganda to be broadcast in occupied Germany?
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/30/2006 4:01 Comments || Top||

#3  That proves what side Pakistan are on!!!!!
Posted by: Ebbolump Glomotle9608 || 11/30/2006 7:23 Comments || Top||

#4  They've been repeating this line over and over for a while now. Being Paks, they don't realize how transparent they're being.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 7:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe the NATO foreign ministers ought to hint to this mook that maybe they're thinking of spreading the war violently into Pakistan's border provinces and see what he thinks then.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 8:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Looks to me like since Pakistan surrendered to the Talibs, they think NATO should too.
Posted by: Spot || 11/30/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Considering the next article posted below Ban on sale of newspapers in North Waziristan says more about who is 'winning' than crap reportedly spewed from the Pak FM. Why do you need to shut down the information flow if your cross border boys are 'winning'?
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/30/2006 9:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Pakistan is ripe with heroin addicts. I take it this fool is one of them.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 15:09 Comments || Top||

#9  “Kasuri is basically asking NATO to surrender and to negotiate with the Taliban,”

Given the recent body counts it reminds me of the old joke:

We lose $.50 on each sale, but we make it up on volume.
Posted by: xbalanke || 11/30/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#10  We lose $.50 on each sale, but we make it up on volume.

You just don't understand the power of the circles, our lawyers will explain it all to you.
Posted by: A M Way || 11/30/2006 17:42 Comments || Top||


An Afghan bomber's tale sheds light on motives
Mumtaz Ahmad spent more than three years at a madrassa in Pakistan learning the Quran, then pursued his desire to become a Qari at a similar Islamic religious school in Kabul. Now, Ahmad languishes in an Afghan intelligence service jail after police caught him three weeks ago planting a roadside bomb on the Shomali Plain near Bagram in an act he says was driven by a belief that killing foreign troops was his Islamic duty. It was his third attempted bomb attack this year
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Ahmad, 22, said in an interview at a lock-up in central Kabul. “They beat me when I got here because they wanted me to give them information,” Ahmad said as two senior intelligence service investigators listened to his words, adding, “It’s just as well they did because I gave them the name of an accomplice. If I hadn’t informed on him, there might have been some sort of attack,” he said.
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The investigators declined a request from Reuters to leave the room during the interview, saying they needed to make sure Ahmad was telling the truth. Ahmad said he had been lured into becoming a bomber by a man called Abdul Rahman who would visit his madrasa in Kabul to incite students to attack foreign troops in the name of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
"Abdul Rahman" seems to be the Pashtun equivalent of "John Smith." Maybe the Islamic equivalent.
The young man’s account could not be independently confirmed but it was broadly similar in its religious aspects to the published stories of other suspected bombers interviewed in detention in Afghanistan. Though Ahmad was caught, one of the investigators said, police believe “Abdul Rahman” had been lurking in the area ready to detonate the bomb by remote control but got away.
Not only a suicide boom, but a surprise suicide boom...
“We haven’t had as much success as we need. We’ve had cases where we’ve made an arrest but the rest of the cell broke up and its members disappeared,” the investigator said. Ahmad said he had left Afghanistan while the Taliban were in power to study for three-and-a-half years at a madrassa in Peshawar, across the border in Pakistan. He returned home soon after Taliban rule collapsed in November 2001 and began attending the Kabul madrasa, where he was one of up to 200 students. He said “Abdul Rahman” had used religion to talk him into working as a courier and had given him the 3.5 kg of explosives that he had buried in a vineyard until the man telephoned him and told where to drop it. “I really regret what has happened, what I did.
"What do you regret most?"
"Getting caught."

"I realise now that these foreign forces came here to help us, not disgrace us,” he said. “It’s too late now. I know I was deceived.” He has not been charged and says he does not know how long he may spend in prison.
How about as long as anybody he would have killed would be dead?
Izzis the Islamic version of a jailhouse conversion?
Ahmad’s family insist they had no idea what he was up to.
"He's really pretty dumb, y'know."
“All we knew is that he was a Qari,” said his uncle Sayed Agha, adding, “He spent all his time praying in the madrasa.”
"That's how he came to be unhinged, ain't it, Aunt Sookie?"
"That's right, Uncle Sayed. All that head bonking just isn't good for an impressionable boy."

The police still had not told the family he had been arrested or why and the family had not asked, the old man added.
"We don't wanna know."
“We were watching television and all of a sudden we saw him and heard he had been arrested,” Sayed Agha said, adding, “His father was shocked when he saw him.”
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A foreigner? Caught planting a roadside bomb? In Afghanistan? Still alive? WTF?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/30/2006 3:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Three tries, three failures? That shadowy and sinister Abdul Rahman isn't a very good teacher, it seems. It sounds, too, like dear little Mumtaz Ahmad was sent from the extra special school -- if the family doesn't know or care what he's been doing, he's a throw-away kid. People keep track of successful offspring.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/30/2006 8:37 Comments || Top||

#3  "People keep track of successful offspring."

Well, not always. Mr. exJAG and I each have one batshit looney tunes parent who hasn't bothered to contact us in years. His mom became a nun and started her own order (Bleeding Eyes of Jesus or something); and my dad lives underground in a decommissioned missile silo, with cameras ringing the perimeter hooked up to a TV that functions as his "window." They don't even know what country we live in, or care.

No doubt there's a huge cultural rift between neurotic American boomers and Pashtun villagers (or maybe not, heh) -- just sayin, could be his family is all jacked up too.

Or, they're lying, so as not to implicate themselves.
Posted by: exJAG || 11/30/2006 9:36 Comments || Top||

#4  "I realise now that these foreign forces came here to help us, not disgrace us,” he said. “It’s too late now. I know I was deceived.”

I wonder how many Gitmo detainees have said much the same thing as Ahmad, were later released, and then returned to the battlefield. Far too many I suspect.

Call me a cynic, but I don't put much stock in sudden moral conversions by captured suicide bombers. Unlike say, the Saudis, the Pakis, the Yemenis, and the Indonesians etc.

Posted by: Mark Z || 11/30/2006 10:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like one fine job of "repentin".
Yeah, if he was in Saudi Arabia, he'd have been out years ago.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 10:52 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm sorry, exJAG. Probably best they aren't in too close contact, although I don't offer that as comfort. I should have said Normal parents..., but they'd keep track of unsuccessful offspring, too. Darn it! What kind of people throw away kids, anyway?!? Never mind, they must be lying to protect themselves.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/30/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#7  OT: exJag - Minuteman or Titan?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/30/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Atlas F. It would be cool, if he was something other than a leftie lunatic hiding from the Patriot Act, defense satellites, and black CIA helicopters.
Posted by: exJAG || 11/30/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Morocco jails German for trying to convert Muslims
A Moroccan court jailed a German tourist for six months for attempting to convert Muslims in the southern resort of Agadir, officials said on Wednesday. The court in Agadir, Morocco's main tourist destination, found the 64-year-old man guilty of trying to "shake the faith of a Muslim," they added.
Islam needs no self-confidence when it has control of the long arm of the law...
The court also fined him 500 dirhams ($60) in its verdict issued late on Tuesday.
"Six months and sixty dollars! Next case!"
Court officials named the German of Egyptian origin as Sadek Noshi Yassa, who was arrested last week as he was distributing books and CDs about the Christian faith to young Muslim Moroccans in the street, the officials said. Under Moroccan law "anyone who employs incitements to shake the faith of a Muslim or to convert him to another religion" can be jailed for up to six months and fined.

The verdict came after local media reports that some Christians had launched a clandestine campaign to convert thousands of Muslim Moroccans to Christianity. There are about 20,000 expatriate Christians in Morocco, most of them living in Rabat and Casablanca, according to estimates by European diplomats.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least he wasn't sentenced to death. He can be lynched later.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/30/2006 3:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Meanwhile, foreign Muslims finance most of our mosques. No quid pro quo there.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/30/2006 4:12 Comments || Top||

#3  How did he "shake the faith of a Muslim"? Say something like "Christ loves you"?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/30/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#4  And yet it is demanded of us we respect these regimes and their rabid cult. It is the Scientology of the seventh century.
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/30/2006 9:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Conversion is the only way out of the death sentence of misery that is islam. "Shaking the faith" means showing a muzzie the way out of the slavery they worship and the death cult it is.

Can"t have muzzies thinking they can leave islam or they'd start losing their slaves in large numbers. Gotta kill any infidel who speaks of freedom. Or the truth about the cult of islam.
Posted by: Shuns Uleating3851 || 11/30/2006 13:01 Comments || Top||


Britain
Hamza hooks up with Tube nut
HATE cleric Abu Hamza has hooked up with a new pal behind bars — London Tube bomb plotter Dhiren Barot. The fanatics sleep four cells apart on the maximum security wing of South London’s Belmarsh jail and pray together every Friday.
Good planning. Do they use mirrors or do they tap out Morse code on the pipes?
Barot, 34, got 40 years this month for his plot to cause carnage both sides of the Atlantic. A prison source said: “He and Hamza are very close. They’re allowed together for Friday prayers and get the chance to speak with all of the other terror suspects. There’s nothing the prison can do to stop them.

“Hamza seems in awe of him — he sees Barot as the senior man.”
That's 'coz barot is a Lion Of Islam™, while captain hook is a big mouth whose only "war experience" was being a bouncer, and blowing himself by screwing up in a bomb class.
Hook-handed Hamza, 48, yesterday lost his appeal against a seven-year jail sentence for incitement to murder and race hate charges. He was refused permission to appeal to the House of Lords. But he can apply directly to the Law Lords.

And a prison source revealed that Hamza faces more misery — after losing all his privileges for trying to organise a revolt against jail rules.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/30/2006 07:56 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now they will try to turn the other prisoners into Islamonutz.

Predict: they will succeed with a core group.

They will go on to cause trouble for the rest of their lives, which should be short if someone can sprinkle dioxin on their dinners.
Posted by: anon1 || 11/30/2006 9:12 Comments || Top||

#2  ... he can apply directly to the Law Lords.


And a prison source revealed that Hamza faces more misery — after losing all his privileges for trying to organise a revolt against jail rules.

Ha! Seems that Time Lords have an upper hand!
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/30/2006 9:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Hamza faces more misery — after losing all his privileges for trying to organise a revolt against jail rules.

Yet these morons see no problem in allowing those two to conspire further while in custody. If Hamza was attempting to organize a prison revolt, doesn't it stand to reason that permitting him to consort with another known terrorist will merely help precipitate some sort of uprising or other more fearsome treachery?

Don't these idjit officials have the least idea of what these two maggots spend time together praying for? For fuck's sake, Hamza's spawn son was caught attempting to gain routine access to Tube infrastructure! And now Papa Hamza is hooked up (so to speak) with someone who wanted to blast the subway to smithereens. Have they not watched the videos where Hamza talks about "Taking the kufir to 'market' for sale or slaughter"?

How religious pretense can blind corrections officials to such a blatant opportunity for plotting further havoc is outright incompetence. Failure to connect dots the size of Jersey should be a punishable offense.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 11:03 Comments || Top||

#4  All the radicals ought to be in solitary, like Magneto in the first X Men movie.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 11:43 Comments || Top||

#5  All the radicals ought to be in solitary,

My point entirely and one I have made many times before. Thank you, Seafarious.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#6  HATE cleric Abu Hamza has hooked up with a new pal behind bars

With bisexual relationships being the norm in Muslim countries, I'm not surprise.

Sea you are completely right. These terrorist should be kept isolated and fed a steady diet of bacon. To please Allen of course.

PS: I take it hanging is out of the question.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 15:07 Comments || Top||


UK Terr Suspects to be deported to US

Two terrorist suspects have lost their High Court battle to avoid extradition to the US. Lawyers for Haroon Rashid 'Purtymouth' Aswat and Babar Ahmad had argued there was "a real risk" the pair would be mistreated if sent to America. Dismissing their appeal, Lord Justice Laws said the allegation the US might violate undertakings given to the UK "would require proof of a quality entirely lacking here".
Proof? Good Islamist terrorists don't need proof! Sez so in their holy book, you could look it up.
Ahmad, a computer expert from Tooting, south London, is accused of running websites inciting murder and urging Muslims to fight a holy war and also to raise money for the Taliban. Aswat, a British man arrested in Africa, faces trial on charges of plotting to set up a camp in Bly, Oregon, to train fighters for war in Afghanistan. He has been fighting extradition to the US since being arrested in Zambia and held in the UK.

At a recent hearing, Edward Fitzgerald QC, appearing for both men, asked two senior judges to halt extradition, arguing there was a danger that their human rights would be abused.
These guys would have stuck up for Hitler...
... see the Saddam trial for a more recent example ...
This was despite diplomatic assurances from the US Government.
Glad to hear Purtymouth's world tour is back on schedule.. the States... then Cuba to conclude.
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/30/2006 06:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "would require proof of a quality entirely lacking here". Gosh Howard haven't all the LLL Mo0b@+5 in Europe and U.S. ranted enough about the draconian laws and treatment in the U.S.? It's likely the they will chicken three nights a week and only one movie night. It pains me even to think about the soccer games and educational opportunities that most prisoners get. Shame on the judge for injecting common sense and REALISM into their silly argument.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/30/2006 10:04 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Heroes Of Jihad In Chechnya
They gave their life for the sake of Allah. They came from all over the world for jihad. They were with their brothers in their hard times. They lost their lives in jihad and became shaheeds (martyrs) in this way. Actually they didn't die! They are still alive and in the heaven they are living their lives. They aren't only the heroes of Chechnya, they are also heroes of this muslim ummah. They all smile when they lose their lives because they know that paradise is waiting for them. Just before they die, they see the heavens and they give their lives while smiling. In this war alot of mujahideen became shaheeds and went to heaven.

1)Abu Bakr From Arabia (1997)
He was one of Khattab's assistants. He joined jihad in chechnya in 1995. He fought in many battles untill death. In 1997, in Dagestan he became shaheed in an operation against Russian positions.

2)Hakeem Al Madani (1999-August)
In 1999 August, mujahideen invaded Dagestan. In Dagestan, they won most of the battles. After a battle won by the mujahideen Hakeem Al Madani was walking on the battle field around Russian corpses and collecting their guns as booties. When he approached a Russian, he thought the Russian was dead but he was alive, then the Russian shot him in the head. He was one of assistants of commander Khattab and he went to Chechnya with Khattab in 1995.

3)Salman Raduyev (Arrested in 2000- was killed in 2002)
He was a real hero. In 1994 when the war first started he joined the war with his group, Lonely Wolves. His group was about 500 men and they had very succesful operations against Russians. In 1996 he went to Dagestan with his men for an operation. In an hostage taking operation he was planning to make his sound heard. After that operation Russians were unable to catch him. In 1999, he retired from Chechnya army because he was injured in a battle and became old. In 2000, Russians found and cought him when he was having rest in his house in Chechnya. In 2002 he found dead in the prison inside of Russia. Everybody knows that he was killed by Russians with tortures.

4)Arbi Barayev (2001-September)
He had a group of 60 mujahideen. With that small group he had very succesful operations. We could hear his group make daily attacks on Russians. In daily attacks they would kill at least 3-5 Russian soldiers each day. In september of 2001, he was in a village with his mujahideen and planning for more operations in the future. Then Russian army learnt that he is in that village and they surrounded the village with 3000 soldiers. He had only 50 soldiers at that time. The battles last about 2 days and Arbi Barayev lost his life with 15 of his men. Other chechen mujahideen successed to escape without getting killed. In the whole battles Russians lost about 200 of their man. In only the first 9 months of 2001, only his group was able to kill at least 1000 Russian soldiers in Chechnya.

5)Ebu Abbas Al Kuwaiti (February 2000)
He was born in Kuwait and when he was 23 years old he went to Chechnya for Jihad. In a short time he became very friendly with other mujahideen and he had very close friendships. In Sherzen Yurt, about 100 mujahideen had been resisting against Russians for a long time. Russians were unable to take Sherzen Yurt for about 40 days of resistance. Chechen commander laters put 15 of mujahideen to front lines. Those 15 mujahideen were standing in the entrance of the town and they had the hardest job. After the heavy resistance some of the mujahideen decided to leave this town. They cut through the huge Russian siege, killing scores of Russian soldiers and they were able to reach Khatni town. Then Russians followed the mujahideen and attacked to Khatni town this time. Another succesful resistance started against Russians then. Mujahideen were in their shelter while giving resistance. They were laying down and shooting Russians. Suddenly Abu Abbas, stood up and started to shoot Russians one by one. When Russians realized him they shot him but it was really hard to kill him. It was 14th February when he became shaheed. In only 3 days his best friend Khallad Al Madani was killed too. They both became shaheeds and met in the heaven. Khallad was killed while he was having rest in his house. A rocket crushed to his house and killed his whole family.

6)Masood Al Benin (February 2000)
He was born in France. After high school he went to England for college education. He was not a muslim because his family was a christian family. In england he learnt islam from muslim students in england. Then he started to like this religion. Then he wanted to fight in Jihad. First he went to Afghanistan to take military education and then he went to Chechnya. He was in chechnya when he was a new muslim. It was 1996 when he went to Chechnya and the first war was about to end. When the war ended he became a teacher in chechnya and started to teach people what he knew. He had his education on computers and he was very well on computers. During the second war he used computers in jihad. He always edited and prepared the footages in the jihad in 1999. He was also a well known fighter amongs mujahideen. He was injured in the Sherzen Yurt battles. His injury was heavy and he had to be treated outside Sherzen Yurt. In Sherzen Yurt 2 more of the mujahideen were injured like him. They picked a military truck and headed to Grozny. They passed the first Russian check point by giving bribe. In the second check point Russians didn't accept the bribe and killed all of mujahideen with truck driver but for a short time mujahideen were able to shoot back and kill about a dozen of Russian soldiers.

And many others like these heroes....
As long as they're all dead like these heroes I'm a happy boy.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea sets terms for nuclear halt
North Korea wants sanctions dropped and the United States to free its overseas bank accounts as preconditions for dismantling its nuclear programme, a news agency said on Wednesday, terms likely to become a sticking point in negotiations.

North Korean envoy Kim Kye-gwan made the demands in meetings in Beijing on Tuesday with representatives of other countries in six-party talks on ending the North’s nuclear weapons programme, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said, citing a source in Beijing.

North Korea agreed to return to the talks - which involve South Korea, China, Japan, Russia and the United States - after its first nuclear test last month triggered UN-backed sanctions. US Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill was still in preparatory talks on Wednesday afternoon, a US Embassy spokeswoman said. “Hill is still in meetings,” the spokeswoman said. “Hill will not leave Beijing tonight.”

US General BB Bell, the head of US forces in South Korea, said on Wednesday that the North was building nuclear weapons for political blackmail. “I’m not worried about their nukes militarily,” Bell said. “I see this as a political instrument much more so than I see it as a military instrument.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And I want a golden flute and a pony and...
Posted by: anon1 || 11/30/2006 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Kimmie needs the cash for more hookers & cognac.

Posted by: Unaise Slealing3840 || 11/30/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#3  SPACEWAR.com > North Korea refuses to unilaterally give up nuclear weapons.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/30/2006 23:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Muslim Rep. Ellison: No Oath on Bible
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/30/2006 07:50 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think the whole picture of taking an oath on any sacred instrument is purely for show. The few times I've had to take an oath, to give testimony in court or to become a commissioned office of the US, no Bible was seen anywhere. The formula is what counts: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm)..." etc.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/30/2006 7:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Seems like a pretty clear application of the First Amendment to me (freedom of religion.) Unlike all the nonsense about crosses in county seals and Nativity scenes on public property.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/30/2006 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Unfortunately, I 'spect he'll turn his oath into a dog goat and pony show. Surely a dirty infidel won't be allowed to handle the sacred words of Allan, and it'll be one of the holiest of holies who will need to be brought in to administer the oath...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 9:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Even I do not think he should be forced to swear by somebody else's sacred scrolls.
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/30/2006 9:12 Comments || Top||

#5  I think he should be forced to swear on a copy of "Dianetics".
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/30/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#6  This is hooey. It is well-established in the courts that there are all sorts of documents one can swear on, not just the King James version of the bible. There is even an oath for atheists.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/30/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#7  I'll be the contrarian: This is the beginning of the march to Shari'a in the USA. Freedom is a fine thing, but it must apply to all.

Multiculturalism and political correctness are destroying this nation from within. Compromise you say? Show me any similar compromise in the Muslim world. Until they demonstrate their ability to compromise and co-exist with others, I say no compromise.

No more tolerance for intolerance.
Posted by: SR-71 || 11/30/2006 9:25 Comments || Top||

#8  The formula is what counts: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm)..."

Let me play devil's advocate here and ask, given the muslim precept that lying to infidels is no big deal, whether the whole concept of a sacred oath to "...support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." has any validity; especially since the Constitution and Sharia law seem to fundamentally conflict.

Posted by: SteveS || 11/30/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#9  I doubt Joe Lieberman swore on a bible.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Joe Lieberman could swear on a can of sardines and would still honor his own word.

SteveS's point is probably the important one. Hudna, taqiyya, kitman...
Posted by: SR-71 || 11/30/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||

#11  I wonder how long after Rep. Ellison formally takes office does he assume his proper Moose limb name?
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#12  I doubt Joe Lieberman swore on a bible.

Reputable people told me the Bible is a Jewish book.
Posted by: JFM || 11/30/2006 10:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Only the first section of the Christian Bible.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/30/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Make him swear on a pack of bacon.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/30/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#15  It's ok, Nimble Spemble. Clever publishers have taken what Christians call the Old Testament, put a new cover on it, stamped Bible on it in gold letters with a Jewish Star underneath instead of a cross, and voila! Something Jews can swear with in comfort. The extra clever ones even re-arrange the order of the books to that used historically by the Jews, and even make use of scholarly translations from the original Hebrew, eschewing the labour of King James' savants and those of the Catholic Church altogether. The footnotes in my copy make for fascinating reading, referencing as they do recent archeological discoveries that expand our understanding of a language, culture and religion that modified considerably over the millenium or so during which the various books of the Old Testament were originally written.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/30/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#16  I like that. A bible with a fake Koran cover. Let's do that. Then after he's taken the oath, we can show it to him and watch his reaction and put it on America's Funniest Home Videos.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#17  Unfortunately, I 'spect he'll turn his oath into a dog goat and pony show. Surely a dirty infidel won't be allowed to handle the sacred words of Allan, and it'll be one of the holiest of holies who will need to be brought in to administer the oath...

Bingo, Sefarious. I find it impossible to imagine that Ellison will not take this opportunity to demand that some grand poobah mufti or hiya-mucky-muck be the one to hold his hand Koran during the ceremony. It will simply be another inroad of Islam's rites upon America's conducting of national business.

Yes, this does fall under First Amendment law, but only so long as we still (idiotically) permit Islam to remain categorized as a religion.

This is the beginning of the march to Shari'a in the USA. Freedom is a fine thing, but it must apply to all.

Multiculturalism and political correctness are destroying this nation from within. Compromise you say? Show me any similar compromise in the Muslim world. Until they demonstrate their ability to compromise and co-exist with others, I say no compromise.

No more tolerance for intolerance.


Which I feel is far more to the point. Even closer to which is the following:

Let me play devil's advocate here and ask, given the muslim precept that lying to infidels is no big deal, whether the whole concept of a sacred oath to "...support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." has any validity; especially since the Constitution and Sharia law seem to fundamentally conflict.

Whose culmination is reached when SR-71 loops around with:

SteveS's point is probably the important one. Hudna, taqiyya, kitman...

How do you trust someone who has given themselves an out that extends to violating every single oath they ever could take, including the apparent rejection of their own religion if such pretense is deemed necessary? THERE IS NO WAY.

Ellison must be kept off of any committe whose clearance requirements demand any more allegiance than one could expect from somebody already convicted of espionage.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#18  "It is well-established in the courts that there are all sorts of documents one can swear on, not just the King James version of the bible. There is even an oath for atheists."

Indeed. This is an old issue that is dealt with in courthouses across the country every day.
Posted by: Mark E. || 11/30/2006 12:10 Comments || Top||

#19  It is not what you swear on but the belief that the object is solomn. Having a Muslim swear over a Bible would be as useful as having a Christian swear over a Koran or Dianetics. If it means nothing to them the oath is worthless.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/30/2006 12:38 Comments || Top||

#20  Joe Lieberman could swear on a can of sardines and would still honor his own word.

As Chuckie Schumer said in a telling remark yesterday: "He's not a typical politician. He really has deep convictions".
Posted by: GK || 11/30/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#21  No Oath on Bible

I'll take mine on a pile 'O Sprouts thank youse.
Posted by: Deep Vegan || 11/30/2006 12:50 Comments || Top||

#22  I really don't care what he places his hand on when taking the oath of office (with the exception of a pages rearend). What I do care about is just what kind of committee asignment Polosi is going to give him.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/30/2006 12:54 Comments || Top||

#23  It boils down to the accepted difference between ethics and morality in the US. Though the dictionary equates the two, the man on the street sees the difference.

Ethics is willingness to obey the law. It is objective, and people want ethical politicians and bureaucrats.

Morality is adherence to religious principles. It is not written by, nor can be re-written by man, and judgement is made in heaven. That is why the man on the street is dubious about a politicians who proclaims themselves "moral". By whose definition? A priest, rabbi, Imam, or other shaman?

Violations are also questionable. Often "moral" people refuse the judgement of other men, claiming that heaven alone justifies whatever it is they want to do.

The rejection of "subjective" morality is also problematic, and there are politicians who proudly claim to be "immoral", as rejection of morality. The problem is that they are often "unethical" at the same time, not distinguishing between the two.

Most people are indifferent if their politicians are immoral, within limits, but they do not want them to be unethical. Of course, if they have flair and elan while being unethical, they just might get re-elected anyway.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/30/2006 13:03 Comments || Top||

#24  My $.02. I do believe that politician's of other belief systems HAVE taken the oath on the Bible. It's a tradition people. I truly have a problem with the grandstanding and "moral superiority" Ellison has over all this. If Joe Lieberman (or any Atheist, Mormon, Buddhist, Hindu, etc.) can swear on the Bible (to protect our Constitution), so can Ellison.

Honestly, it is covered under the First Amendment. Problem is, NO ONE has ever made this big a show and/or deal about it. One of those "slippery slope" issues, that if you take it out to it's farthest extremes will have Hef elected to office, swearing on his latest copy of Playboy (or .com's stash), or some crackpot Scientologist swearing on Dianetics.

It comes down to this with me, like others have more eloquently explained. I don't have a problem on swearing on anything (because you're swearing on our Constitution, basically). But, could you imagine some camera-hogging politico swearing on Mein Kampf during the heat of WWII? Hell no! It just shouldn't be done, especially with a book and belief system that is SOOOOO completely opposite of the Republic's ideals our Founding Fathers gave us. Just one more line that'll encourage the jihadis, even though to the average American it's no big deal.
Posted by: BA || 11/30/2006 13:17 Comments || Top||

#25  Hef elected to office, swearing on his latest copy of Playboy (or .com's stash)

Bwahahaha! Only at Rantburg.

could you imagine some camera-hogging politico swearing on Mein Kampf during the heat of WWII? Hell no! It just shouldn't be done, especially with a book and belief system that is SOOOOO completely opposite of the Republic's ideals our Founding Fathers gave us. Just one more line that'll encourage the jihadis

Word, BA.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#26  Thanks, Zen! I really have fun at .com's expense, now that he's become a mod.
Posted by: BA || 11/30/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#27  Ooooh . . . Seafarious might be right. The Muzzies I knew always told me that they would work their way into public office in the US as part of their political goals.

About the oath--the Bible is important in the oath because it REPRESENTS the foundations of thought, philosophy, belief, and law the country originated from. America was NOT founded on Islam. Ellison is seeking to deconstruct and supplant those foundations with the "acendancy" of Islam. Or maybe he doesn't want to have his house bombed for touching the book of the Christians/Joooooos. We'll see more of this kind of thing, ala the six imams . . .
Posted by: ex-lib || 11/30/2006 15:01 Comments || Top||

#28  First of all this Detroit native Jew bashing Muslime terrorist huger is right in my freaking backyard. The local news stations and papers knew just what this meteor kissing turban head was all about and the refused to make public,,, any of his ties with fellow Muslim terrorist. His public defence of cop murderers should have at least hit the front page on a Monday.

I'm sorry but if you are affiliated with CAIR then you ARE a Muslim terrorist.

Lastly let's be blunt about this. The poKoran is nothing more than a Muslim terrorist handbook calling for our conversion or death. Ellison swearing on the Arab book bound toilet paper is the last straw. I could care less about what he takes the oath on. The bottom line is that Ellison should not be in office period! I'd be interested in hearing what other Minnesotans think of our Congressional Muhamhead.

I'm so pissed I can hardly eat my Lutefisk.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 15:04 Comments || Top||

#29  Fun question:

Let's say Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts administers the oath of office. Would he be allowed to hold the Koran, or would the Grand Mufti of Falls Church be necessary to act as a intermediary?

Discuss.

*note: I don't actually know if a third party typiccally holds the Bible/racing form/popular mechanix etc. Does the First Lady ever assist at a Prez Inauguration?
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 15:19 Comments || Top||

#30  Will he wear one of those little hats like Louis Farrakhan and Prince Chucky wear - or will he go ahead an sport a turban?

Also, NOI bowtie or mandress or thobe, which is more apropos for the SOTU Address?
Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 15:56 Comments || Top||

#31  SOTU is a formal affair...formal calls for the full Muammar Qadaffi...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#32  But sunglasses indoors are sooo 70's, lol. Now if he's sporting a coupla MN ScandoBlonde Fembots, he'll steal the show...
Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 16:06 Comments || Top||

#33  I'm sorry but if you are affiliated with CAIR then you ARE a Muslim terrorist.

End of story.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 16:26 Comments || Top||

#34  He's not a Christian so swearing on a Bible is bogus anyway. I have no objection to him swearing on a Koran but the suicide belt has to go.
Posted by: Angeaper Slomoth1630 || 11/30/2006 17:04 Comments || Top||

#35  This is all part of the mad mooslum road show.

Ellison is involved in the flying imam(onster)s routine.

Rest assured, swearing on a holy piece of toilet paper (albeit flushable) is only the opening salvo.

Ellison is up to his ass in louie faracon and the nation of islam, and he has many more tricks up his sharia sleeves.
Posted by: Captain America || 11/30/2006 17:30 Comments || Top||

#36  Now, considering he is a "representative" of heavy swed and norwegs here in tropic minnesota, wonder how fran and ollie feel 'bout mooslums gone wild?
Posted by: Captain America || 11/30/2006 17:33 Comments || Top||

#37  considering he is a "representative" of heavy swed and norwegs here in tropic minnesota, wonder how fran and ollie feel 'bout mooslums gone wild?

Looking at how long it to the Norskies to finally oust mullah Krekar from their own home turf, I think the "away game" is going to need some extra innings.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 17:39 Comments || Top||

#38  I am so ready to swear on a Daily Racing Form, I can't believe I didn't think of it first.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/30/2006 18:01 Comments || Top||

#39  I don't care what he swears on, but I do question his fitness for public office. He is required to swear that he will faithfully conduct the affairs of his office. He is required to swear that he will support and defend the Constitution, and bear true faith and allegience to it. How can we trust a muslim to do this, when they are given the freedom to lie to anyone who is not a muslim? How can he be trusted with ANYTHING? Big can-o-worms here that needs to be looked at very carefully, and closely tracked as time passes.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/30/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||

#40  Just wait till he pops out his prayer rug in session or in committee and starts banging his head on the floor...
Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 18:32 Comments || Top||

#41  We'll know that our government has failed us completely when Ellison demands and congress just as quickly permits five prayer breaks each day.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 19:04 Comments || Top||

#42  Trust me us Scandinavians outside the Twin Cities are about ready to sell Minneapolis back to the communists. But only if they promise to take Ellison with them.

When I go to DC in the spring I'll have to pack him a ham sandwich.

To be blunt I blame his election on Ellison's opponent, Republican Alan Fine. Fine didn't have much success with the press coverage in fighting this CAIR lap dog. Come to think of it I don't recall a single TV ad by Alan Fine.

Lets not forget Keith Ellison saying Sara Jane Olson “was fighting for freedom” when she planted a bomb under a police car, during his speech in February 2000. Fighting for Freedom by killing Police Officers! Sara Jane Olson/Soliah pleaded guilty to planting the bomb, as well as pleading guilty to First Degree Murder charges for the murder of Myrna Opsahl. Ellison's 40 or so unpaid parking tickets, and his nine moving violations since 2000 show this punk azz's complete lack of standards. Which I guess helps him be a good Muzzy. You'd have to be to follow the Pedophile for Profit.

Ellison's defenders brushed off their candidate's $25,000 in unpaid back taxes -- incurred some years ago and later paid -- in a similar spirit. Let's face it: When you're on a crusade to right big wrongs, you've got little time for the petty details of personal life -- license suspensions or tax liens. Anyway, this stuff has nothing to do with running the people's business, right?

And if you don't care about him using the koran, then you haven't read it. Be afraid folks. The general ignorance of Islam will be our downfall and their fifth column is on the march with the aid of the Dhimmicrats of course.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 19:20 Comments || Top||

#43  I'm so pissed I can hardly eat my Lutefisk.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 19:29 Comments || Top||

#44  The Minnesota DFL (Democrat Farm Labor) party has been replaced with DML (Dumb Mooslum Lackies)
Posted by: Captain America || 11/30/2006 22:54 Comments || Top||


Panel reaches deal on U.S. Iraq policy
AP. They left out "recommendations". Neither they nor AP make the call on US Foreign Policy. Asstards.
A bipartisan commission, under pressure to offer a U.S. exit strategy for the increasingly unpopular war in Iraq, has reached a consensus and will announce its recommendations next week, the group's co-chairman said Wednesday.

Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., declined to disclose any specifics about the Iraq Study Group's decisions. The report, much anticipated by the Bush administration and members of Congress, is coming out next Wednesday amid the spiraling violence in Iraq that has raised questions about the viability of the Iraqi government. "This afternoon, we reached a consensus ... and we will announce that on December 6," Hamilton told a forum on national security at the Center for American Progress, a liberal group. "We're making recommendations," said Hamilton, who led the group with former Secretary of State James A. Baker III.
Hamilton gets it. Sorta.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  NYT has a few more details. Nothing we haven't already heard about - the kind of mush you'd expect from a committee - "we should withdraw at some unspecified rate and some unspecified time". They did admit that Bush's recent speeches threw a monkey wrench into their deliberations. They obviously didn't want their recommendations to be DOA.

But I think it will be DOA anyway. The world just doesn't work the way these geniuses seem to think it does. The jihad will continue and intensify no matter how much "talking" we do with Syria and Iran.
Posted by: fmr mil contractor || 11/30/2006 7:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran and Syria won't engage seriously until they've been at the receiving end of a sufficiently large barrage of incoming something-or-others. They think we can be bullied into surrender, despite all our toys... and this kind of thing makes them more intransigent, not less.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/30/2006 8:30 Comments || Top||

#3  The only panel legitimate to 'work it out' is one elected by the American people. This other crap is just dressing for people who believe they don't need the consent of the govern to rule. Get fancy titles and you think you run the place. They have as much to say on the issue as any Rantburger and nothing more.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/30/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  I suspect this panel opinion is the beginning of a dangerous downward spiral. This panel has been built up as the committee of savants who will produce a magic solution to allow us to solve this Iraq dilemma. Now we see that the solution is to kiss up to Syria and Iran while US troops are withdrawn as quickly as possible. Iran will agree to assist withdrawal because that's exactly what they want anyway. In addition, knowing Baker's proclivities, he undoubtedly promised them that they could proceed unhindered on their "peaceful" nuclear program. This committee opinion will also be used in Congress to force draw down of troop levels. It will be the support pillar used to justify funding cuts for operations activities. This sort of talk will begin early in the next Congress, assisted by the rumor of the most massive supplemental appropriations request since operations began. This will lead to cuts or funding stalemates. Significant withdrawl of US troops will cause the Saoodis to take some sort of action to protect their Sunni brothers. This causes major concern for Israel also. Later, they will be forced to take major military action to protect themselves from being over run. Then the chips will really be down and the game is at stake.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 11/30/2006 10:47 Comments || Top||

#5  These guys need to watch more football. A 'prevent' defense leads to more 'near losses' (and not a few losses.) As they say, the best defense is a good offense. So let's be offensive.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/30/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#6  I've got a brilliant idea. Why don't we pull our troops out, and since it's a "law enforcement" issue to the Donks anyways, let the NYPD and/or the Atlanta PD in on the action. Seem to be good at killing (and overkilling) things lately. Redeploy troops to Tehran, Pyongyang and Syria. Could also use them to cordon off Mecca/Medina in the "Sea of Glass" threats for the next coming attack.
Posted by: BA || 11/30/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#7  I know who's going to get screwed.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 18:16 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Soldier's coffin at center of furor
A woman says she saw a soldier's flag-draped coffin put into a cart with passengers' baggage last month at the Greater Rochester International Airport, shocking her and other onlookers.
I doubt it greatly.
"It looked awful, just awful," Cynthia Hoag, 56, of Dansville, Livingston County, said Wednesday. "Maybe we made too much out of it,
... and probably did...
"but it was very disturbing to us. If that had been my son, I would have been very upset."
There are only so many ways to take a coffin off an airplane...
Officials dispute Hoag's story, saying it is implausible. They did not disclose the name of the fallen soldier, but he appears to be Army Sgt. 1st Class Tony Knier of Sabinsville, Pa., who was killed in Iraq on Oct. 21. A Pennsylvania funeral director confirmed on Wednesday night that he transported Knier's body from the Rochester airport on Oct. 27, the day Hoag was there. Monroe County officials said the coffin was being taken to Pennsylvania.
Normally the hearse picks up the coffin planeside. The funeral director could probably confirm if that didn't happen and why...
Knier's mother was appalled when she was told Wednesday night that the incident might have involved the body of her 31-year-old son, a husband and father of three young children. Knier's funeral was Oct. 31 near his home in Wellsboro, Pa. "If that's what that lady saw, I'm outraged. I'm really upset, because my son died for this country. " said Betty Tidwell, who lives in Tennessee. "He gave all he had to this country. And for them to do that to him, that just upsets the hell out of me."
But I'm not seeing a lot of plausibility to the story...
Hoag wrote an op-ed essay that was published Tuesday in the Democrat and Chronicle, describing what she says she saw. Based on Hoag's account, Monroe County Executive Maggie Brooks called on the federal government Wednesday to change procedures to prevent a similar incident, saying what happened is an "outrage."
Sounds like Our Ms. Brooks is making the assumption the military's hosed it. I suppose it's a possibility, but it's not the result of military policy.
Hoag explained that as she waited at the airport with friends, she saw a soldier in uniform standing at attention near a commercial airplane as the luggage came off. She then saw a coffin draped with an American flag come down a luggage conveyor on the runway.
The "luggage conveyor on the runway" is not the same thing as the luggage carousel. So the coffin, complete with flag, didn't pop out between Grandmaw's suitcase and Uncle Bob's golf clubs.
The coffin was put into a baggage cart with other luggage and driven off with the uniformed soldier in the cart. "I saw the casket of a fallen soldier, saluted by a lone soldier, and then placed in a baggage cart," she wrote. "Baggage."
The "baggage cart" would be the baggage train, on the runway. If the hearse wasn't planeside, it would be necessary to transport the coffin to where the hearse was. The Casualty Assistance Officer rendered military honors and accompanied the body, as he was supposed to do. Presumably there were baggage handlers to place the coffin on the baggage train.
Defense Department spokeswoman Cynthia Smith was unaware of the incident late Wednesday but said the witness' description doesn't correlate with military procedure.
It doesn't.
Remains from a soldier killed in Iraq are taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, then usually flown to a soldier's home, she said.
If there's not an airport at the soldier's home, it'll be flown to the nearest airport and then picked up by a funeral director.
Military escorts accompany each flight, whether domestic or military. When the coffin reaches the home area, it is met by an honor guard of two people and then transported to a funeral home, she said.
In this case, I'm guessing they were with the hearse, to great the coffin, and the person who was seen was the escort.
"We do everything to ensure that proper respect is given to the fallen service members and their families," Smith said.
It's all laid out in the regulation.
Airport officials said it's a problem that notification of the airport is not required when a soldier's coffin is en route. Airport Director David Damelio said he wasn't aware that the soldier's body had been transported through Rochester until Hoag's letter was published. "We're not notified unless the military or the family chooses to notify us," he said, adding that the airport often makes special arrangements at the request of soldiers' families.
Apparently there wasn't notification, which'd be why the hearse wasn't planeside.
Yet Damelio said Hoag's story doesn't make sense and said the Defense Department has always shown great care with soldiers' coffins. Procedurally, a coffin wouldn't come down a luggage belt with other baggage, he said. Also, a baggage cart isn't large enough to fit a coffin and other luggage, he said. "It couldn't happen. It's physically impossible," Damelio said.
There's room on the luggage train, however.
He said the airport was unable to find video of the incident.
Further reinforcing my opinion that the report's an exaggeration.
Nonetheless, the witness' description prompted Brooks to urge the Defense Department to change policies on the transportation of the coffins of dead soldiers.
Whether it happened or not?
"It is unfathomable to me that our federal government would allow a fallen military hero to be returned home in this manner, and then transport him along with someone's checked luggage," Brooks, a Republican, wrote in a terse letter to the Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England.
If it didn't happen then there'd be no need to fathom it, would there?
Brooks said the Defense Department should be required to notify an airport when the coffin of a fallen soldier is being transported so that proper arrangements are ensured. "I am asking you to do whatever is necessary to end this abhorrent practice," Brooks wrote. "Our military personnel and our veterans deserve better."
And our local elected officials really like getting their names in the paper.
Posted by: Fred & Gorb || 11/30/2006 13:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is bullschit. The man should have been carried off the plane. It's that fricking simple.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 14:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Several years ago, I escorted the coffin of my baby from Florida to Michigan for burial. I was able to ride with the funeral director in the hearse, and he dropped me at the terminal and then went to the air freight section. While waiting for the flight to board, my son's casket was indeed sitting on a baggage cart, but it was the sole occupant of that cart and did indeed have to travel up the conveyor (head first) into the hold. It was positioned with the rest of the belly freight on the ramp. The weather was clear, so I cannot speak to the inclement weather procedures, but my guess is that they would cover or otherwise protect it. I saw nothing wrong with that, since there really is no other way to handle such an object. At the destination, the process was repeated, again with respect and care.

I would expect nothing less for a coffin carrying one of our soldiers. This, if true is not the norm, but I think it is simply an over-reaction.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 11/30/2006 14:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's her original letter. It explains a little better what she saw.

Where was outpouring of respect for fallen soldier?

By Cynthia Hoag
Guest essayist

(November 28, 2006) — On Oct. 27, I was waiting for a flight with three friends at the Greater Rochester International Airport. As we talked and laughed, we watched airport personnel unloading luggage from a plane. And we were surprised to see a soldier in uniform standing by the airplane looking things over, and watching the luggage belt that was loaded with baggage.

Since I have served in the Army Reserves for 21 years, my friends asked me why I thought he was standing there. I did not need to answer because as I looked down, a box with the American flag draped over it came down the belt. The lone waiting soldier stood at attention saluting the fallen soldier.

My friends and I sat silently watching the casket roll down the belt, and then, to our surprise, disappear into the cart with the rest of the luggage. The waiting soldier stayed with the casket and rode in the cart as they pulled away.

My friends and I were speechless. I, as many Americans, support our troops and know they believe they are truly making a difference in Iraq. As I read the paper every day, I see the number of soldiers who are killed every day. I served with soldiers who were deployed in support of the war. I have not, however, known anyone who has been killed in it. After I read the paper I usually go about my business not thinking again about the young men and women who died trying to complete their mission. Since I have not been affected by the death of a loved one, or a friend, I haven't been as aware of the devastation that their families must endure. I'm afraid most people feel that way.

This incident, however, changed that for me. I saw the casket of a fallen soldier, saluted by a lone soldier, and then placed in the baggage cart. Baggage. There was a young man standing at the window watching intently with us. He made no comment, but I can only hope that he was not a relative.

At the very least, couldn't there have been a hearse to transport the fallen soldier? At the very least, couldn't there have been a group of soldiers to receive one of their own? If it had been a dignitary/celebrity arriving, the reception certainly would have been different.

It was a very sobering, sad experience for all of us. Please, don't let this happen again to any soldier. Let's not treat our fallen troops like baggage.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I think I'll go breathe into a bag for a while. But they better make sure a hearse is waiting from now on. I don't want anything that even looks like a luggage train to pick up coffins.

Unless it's a bunch of terrorists that need to be disposed of, of course. They can just throw those guys in garbage trucks until they're full and squeeze them out into the dump. Don't forget to hose them out when you're done so it doesn't contaminate the garbage.
Posted by: gorb || 11/30/2006 16:41 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Ban on sale of newspapers in North Waziristan
No newspapers were sold across North Waziristan on Wednesday because of a two-day ban on the sale of newspapers by militants after an erroneous news report on Monday claimed that four militants were killed in a clash with security forces near Mir Ali town. “No newspaper was distributed or sold anywhere in (North) Waziristan today,” Haji Pazir, the sole distributor of most Urdu and English newspapers in Miranshah, told Daily Times by phone. “I am abiding by the ban. I have received some bundles of newspapers but did not open them. I don’t want to annoy these people (militants),” Pazir said.

“Literally, we are ruled by people who only understand the language of force. There is nothing like government in Miranshah.”
The local tribal militants, popularly known as Taliban, imposed the two-day ban on the sale of newspapers against what they called “irresponsible journalism” after the BBC Urdu Service posted a stale story on its website on Monday. A local news agency lifted the story and distributed it to all Pakistani newspapers, which they ran on their front pages. The story was about a clash between security forces and militants months ago in which four militants were killed, but the BBC ran it as a fresh story.

An administration official in Miranshah said he received no newspaper on Wednesday. Asked what the administration was doing to enforce the state writ, he laughed and said: “President Pervez Musharraf says in Islamabad ‘Pakistan first’, but we in Miranshah say ‘our skin first’.”

The incident exposed the government claims that the September 5 accord did not help the militants grow in size and influence. “Literally, we are ruled by people who only understand the language of force. There is nothing like government in Miranshah,” said a lecturer of a college who did not wish to be named.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But what the hell will they eat their fish and chips in?
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/30/2006 4:11 Comments || Top||

#2  They can read in North Wazoo?
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/30/2006 9:17 Comments || Top||


1,138 Afghans held in Peshawar in November
Peshawar Police arrested 1,138 Afghan refugees wanted for various crimes in November, police sources said on Wednesday. The crackdown was launched following a series of bomb and suicide attacks that killed at least eight people and left several others injured in the provincial capital. According to police sources, the Afghan refugees were arrested as part of efforts to bring an end to blasts, rising number of kidnappings, car lifting and robberies.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Back in 1989 the locals in Peshawar were pissed off with the Afghan refugees. I'm sure it hasn't changed since. I saw them living in tents in muddy fields. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 15:12 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
S. African Tutu to Head UN Fact-Finding Mission to Gaza
The United Nations says Desmond Tutu of South Africa is to head a U.N. fact-finding mission to the Gaza Strip. The president of the U.N. Human Rights Council, Luis Alfonso De Alba said the Nobel Laureate will travel to the Gaza town of Beit Hanoun to probe the deaths of 19 Palestinians by Israeli shelling earlier this month.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What? No fact finding mission to the Israeli villages which have been continually rocketed for years.

Can we have a suprise meter here?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/30/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Go north and cross the Beit Bridge you worthless Kommunist holy man, you'll find some lovely "Human Rights" facts.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/30/2006 5:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Mr Tutu seems far less eager to investigate Sudan. KKK-like racist with a Black skin that is what he is.
Posted by: JFM || 11/30/2006 5:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Let's just go ahead and write the findings today: Israelis = Bad, Paleos = good.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/30/2006 10:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Gawd, I thought this Tutu died ten years ago. Now he's resurrected to cause more trouble ? Brilliant move Koffee.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 11/30/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#6  The international "wolf in sheep's clothing". If you want a butcher job done on anyone and need it to have a hint of respectability, Dez and Jimmy Carter are amongst the best you can buy.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be kidnapped.
Posted by: Thrigum Hupeating7439 || 11/30/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 14:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Now poor Abbas has to get caviar & oysters.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 22:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be kidnapped.

Maybe we'll get luckier and he'll be rocketed offed. Is this asshole anything more than an overpaid professional handwringer?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 14:10 Comments || Top||


Annan criticises UN rights body, wants Darfur move
Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Wednesday the United Nations’ new human rights body risked becoming deadlocked by the same political manoeuvring that sunk its discredited predecessor.
Silly me. I thought it was already there.
In a statement to the third session of the Human Rights Council, Annan urged member countries that are “truly determined to uphold human rights” to stand out against violations wherever they occur even if they risked angering regional allies. “Only by showing such courage and rigour can you avoid disappointing the many people around the world who look to the UN for support in their struggle for human rights,” Annan said.
I'm trying to think when was the last time the UN showed courage... It'll come to me, I'm sure.
He mentioned no countries, but he noted that in its first five months the Council had focused heavily on the Arab-Israeli conflict, holding three special sessions to approve resolutions condemning alleged violations by the Jewish state.
One-sided resolutions do even less than even-handed resolutions, I think.
But there were other situations in the world, particularly the crisis in the Sudan region of Darfur, which were equally or even more needing of attention, Annan said.
"Not that it's genocide or anything like that..."
“There are surely other situations, besides the one in the Middle East, which would merit scrutiny at a special session... I would suggest that Darfur is a glaring case in point,” he said. On Tuesday, for the first time, the 47-state Council passed a mildly worded resolution sponsored by African states expressing concern at human rights violations in Sudan, but it avoided placing any blame on the Khartoum government.
Remarkable. You'd almost get the impression he's counting the days, too.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Has Kofi read STRATEGYPAGE > UN PEACEKEEPERS FACE FAILURE IN LEBANON. The Hizbos are out to turn Lebanon into another [anti-Israeli/Western] Radical State, and are succeeding in part becuz UN Pk's are refusing to stop = "push back" agz Hizbo activities. * They wanna fire at IDF recce air instead, which for me means FRANCE > engaging in anti-Israeli "WAR FOR OIL".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/30/2006 1:00 Comments || Top||

#2  The fish rots from the head.
31 days.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 9:20 Comments || Top||


Annan fears world paralysis on nuclear weapons threat
“Mutually assured paralysis” has replaced “mutually assured destruction” as the greatest nuclear threat as world leaders fail to act decisively to promote disarmament and stem proliferation, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan warned on Tuesday.

While governments are coming together to address many global threats, “the one area where there is a total lack of any common strategy is the one that may well present the greatest danger of all - the area of nuclear weapons,” Annan said in a lecture at Princeton University. “We are asleep at the controls of a fast-moving aircraft. Unless we wake up and take control, the outcome is all too predictable,” he said.
Nukes have been around longer than the UN, Kofi. The problem is who has 'em - and who wants 'em.
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#1  Mutually assured paralysis described the UN perfectly for me ..
Posted by: MacNails || 11/30/2006 7:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Damn. He sounds almost reasonable....what's the catch?
Posted by: Throlurt Angeasing2707 || 11/30/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Kofi warns of inaction on the nuke threat.
Kofi criticises the laughable UN Human Rights Council.
Our weaselous Kofi? WTF? I'm betting there is a pod in the basement with his face on it.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/30/2006 19:44 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Some Central Criminal Court of Iraq Sentencings
BAGHDAD, Iraq — The Central Criminal Court of Iraq, between November 10th to the 23rd convicted 41 individuals for variety of crimes including possession of illegal weapons, possessing false civil affair identifications, failure to renew resident identification and illegal border crossing.

The trial court found an Iraqi man guilty of participating in terrorist activities and attacking Iraqi Forces and Multi-National Forces in violation of Article 4/1 of the anti-terrorist laws. MNF apprehended the defendant during a targeted raid. The defendant confessed to participating in the video production of the Merez dining facility bombing that killed 18 MNF servicemembers and wounded another 30. On November 13, 2006 the trial panel found the defendant guilty and sentenced him to death.

The trial court found a Sudanese man guilty of violating Article 24/ Residency / Entering Iraqi Border Illegally. MNF apprehended the defendant in a targeted raid to disrupt anti-Iraqi Forces and anti-MNF elements. The defendant admitted to entering Iraq for terrorist purposes. On November 14, 2006 the trial panel sentenced him to life imprisonment.

The trial court found an Iraqi man guilty of possession of illegal special weapons, the trial panel sentenced him to 15 years imprisonment.

The trial court found a Saudi Arabian man guilty of violation of the Iraq Passport Law, sentenced him to 15 years imprisonment. The trial court found an Algerian man guilty of illegal border crossing, sentenced the man to 15 years imprisonment.

Those convicted of passport violations, forging official documents, possession of illegal weapons, taking advantage of someone else’s legal documents and entering the country illegally, were sentenced from between 6 months to 10 years imprisonment. Those convicted included 18 Iraqis, three each from Egypt and Syria as well as one each from Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Jordan and Sudan.

Since its establishment in April 2004, the Central Criminal Court has held 1,740 trials for Coalition-apprehended insurgents. The proceedings have resulted in 1,501 convictions with sentences ranging up to death.
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Powell refers to Iraq conflict as `civil war'
Former U.S. secretary of state Colin Powell told a business conference in the United Arab Emirates yesterday that the war in Iraq "could be considered a civil war."

Powell made the comment during a question-and-answer session after a keynote speech, according to David Hellaby, who organized the forum.

Powell could not be immediately reached for comment.

The retired general's comments are in sharp contrast to those of U.S. President George W. Bush.

Yesterday, a total of 105 people were killed or found dead across Iraq.

According to Hellaby, Powell said the war had three phases. The invasion phase went as planned. But the second phase, the military occupation, was "badly handled." Mistakes during the second phase led to the third, "which could be considered a civil war."
Posted by: tipper || 11/30/2006 06:09 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The invasion phase went as planned. But the second phase, the military occupation, was "badly handled."

Which agency was responsible for the "second phase"?

State.

Who fucked it up?

Powell.

Nice to hear he'll admit it, even if he does weasel his words.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/30/2006 6:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Ask yourself why warriors like Tommy Franks, Storm'n Norman, and others have steered clear of this mess. Two reasons, US State Dept and our brilliant SECDEF.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/30/2006 7:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Serious funding, resources, and direction from Iran and Syria. Yep, that certainly makes it a civil war. /sarcasm off
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/30/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  It's only a civil war if you use Bin Laden's view of an Islamic Caliphate in which case I support the withdrawal of Iraq from such a beast and the war that followed.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/30/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm going to have to call DC and find out what Powell's number two guy Chris has got to say about this.

It seems to me that only the New York Slimes, AP and Routerless think this is a civil war. None of these muzzy terrorist mouthpieces can explain how outsiders can make a civil war.

Basically Powell is a dumb fuk.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 23:06 Comments || Top||


Bush - Maliki Talks Are Postponed
Shit happens. The NYT is reading all sorts of sinister / dire shit into it, cuz they wanna. The usual asinine sneering spin is so normal for the NYT you may miss it, lol, but they just about outdo themselves in this one. I enjoy the attaboy they give themselves for leaking a classified memo. Positively beaming, they are. Waders and oxygen tanks are in the lockers. Good luck.
AMMAN, Jordan, Nov. 29 — Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq and King Abdullah II of Jordan abruptly backed out of a meeting with President Bush on Wednesday, leaving the White House scrambling to explain why a carefully planned summit had suddenly been cut from two days to one. The decision occurred on a day that a classified White House memo expressing doubts about Mr. Maliki was disclosed and after Iraqi officials loyal to a powerful Shiite cleric said they were suspending participation in the Maliki government because he had ignored their request to cancel the Bush meeting.

The president and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice were already aboard Air Force One, on the way to Amman from Riga, Latvia, where they had been attending a NATO summit, when they received the news by telephone from the United States ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad. The White House insisted Mr. Bush was not upset and had not been snubbed. “Absolutely not,” said Dan Bartlett, counselor to the president.

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Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sadr + 500lbs of high explosive = one problem solved in Iraq.

NYT + jail time and fines for violating classification laws = another problem solved.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/30/2006 1:47 Comments || Top||

#2  UPDATE:
They met overnight.
Could the NYT be wrong?

Al
Posted by: frozen al || 11/30/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||


Iraqi president: Security deal reached with Iran
Iraq's president said Wednesday he had reached a security agreement with Iran, which the United States accuses of fueling the chaos in the war-torn country. Iran's president called on countries to stop backing "terrorists" in Iraq and for the Americans to withdraw.

Tehran is believed to back some of the Shiite militias blamed in the vicious sectarian killings that have thrown the country into chaos. The United States has said the Iraqi government should press Iran to stop interfering in its affairs in a bid to calm the violence. Presidents Jalal Talabani of Iraq and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran held talks Wednesday hours before U.S. President George W. Bush was due to meet with the Iraqi prime minister in Jordan in talks aimed at finding a solution to Iraq's spiraling bloodshed.
Well I'm reassured.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iran's president called on countries to stop backing "terrorists" in Iraq

Yeah, me too. I wish that nasty ol' Luxembourg and Republic of San Marino would cool it with the meddling in Iraq. They've been no end of trouble.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 0:17 Comments || Top||


Saddam genocide trial thrown into chaos
The genocide trial of Saddam Hussein was once again thrown into chaos Wednesday when the chief judge ejected a key defence lawyer only to recall him later in the day. Soon after proceedings began, Judge Mohammed al-Oreibi al-Khalifah ordered the arrest of Badie Aref, always a vocal presence in the trial, for “violating professional conduct”. Aref is defending Farhan al-Juburi, the former head of military intelligence in northern Iraq and one of seven accused of killing thousands of Kurds in 1988 during the military campaign.

Khalifah clashed with Aref over the manner in which he was addressing the court. The stormy session began with Aref making a statement before the court, but when he referred to the prosecutor as “brother” the prickly judge took offence. “I warned your colleagues yesterday twice to respect the court and its officials,” said Khalifah, who objected to the informality of the term.

Aref insisted that the information he wanted to give was more important than the form of address and then used the word “brothers” again to refer to the prosecutors. The judge then ordered him to be ejected. Aref protested to the judge’s order after which Oreibi said “You are arrested for 24 hours for violating professional conduct.” But later in the day Juburi asked the judge to recall Aref. “We want that the sessions continue normally till the end and demand you to cancel the decision against Badie Aref,” Juburi said to the judge. “Let him attend the sessions.” The judge then accepted his demand. But Aref later left the court.
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Knesset okays Livni as justice minister
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Haniyeh demands Palestinian state with '67 borders
After meeting with Arab League chief, Amr Moussa in Cairo on Wednesday, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh repeated what Hamas' Damascus-based top leader Khaled Mashaal said on Saturday, demanding the "establishment of Palestinian state, with June 4, 1967 borders, with east Jerusalem as its capital, and right of return of Palestinian refugees." "The right of return of Palestinian refugees is holy, no Palestinian can make concessions about it," he added.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In line wid HISTORY CHANNEL's [= JIMMMY CARTER'S]upcoming special on the BALFOUR Plans, espec the option which shows Israel as a geographically separate nation. BUT-T-T, if HISTORY CHANNEL is any measure, then Muslims need to watch becuz its shows BALFOUR > THEY MUSLIMS =PALEOS DON'T GET JERUSALEM ANYWAY. Jerusalem is an INTERNATIONAL CITY [e.g VATICAN CITY] under the ISRAELIS, iff anybody.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/30/2006 0:54 Comments || Top||

#2  And a pony!
Posted by: Thrigum Hupeating7439 || 11/30/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Considering that before '67, the land was 'owned and operated' by Jordan and Egypt, there may some common ground here. It's yours Amman and Cairo. Treat them like you did before '67.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/30/2006 12:10 Comments || Top||


'Israel losing patience over truce violations'
Israel warned on Wednesday that the Jewish state was losing patience over Palestinian rocket attacks that have continued to violate a tentative four-day ceasefire in the Gaza Strip.

The warnings come amid a flurry of diplomatic efforts to shore up the truce, with Egypt’s intelligence chief Omar Suleiman in Israel and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to meet Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas Thursday. “The test period accorded by the prime minister to the Palestinians is nearing the end,” said Tzahi Hanegbi, a key ally of premier Ehud Olmert and chairman of parliament’s influential defence and foreign affairs committee. “The prime minister said the policy of restraint will only last a few days,” the MP added, speaking on public radio.

Militants in Gaza fired isolated rockets towards southern Israel on each of the first three days of the truce, violating an accord brokered after 400 Palestinians and three Israelis were killed in Gaza in five months.

A source in Olmert’s office similarly emphasized that “Israel’s patience has limits”, in comments to AFP on Wednesday. “The prime minister ordered the army not to respond although since the start of the ceasefire 12 rockets have been fired from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory,” added the official on condition of anonymity.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can someone change the frigging channel! I've seen this rerun about 100 times now and, oddly enough, the same thing happens each time.

Israel honors the truce for awhile while the palieos continue to violate it. Then the Israeli's will defend themselves and then everyone will condemn Israel for breaking the fragile peace and violating the Cease Fire the palieos never honored anyway.

Geeze... A-team reruns have a deeper plot....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/30/2006 0:42 Comments || Top||

#2  If only we could get the media to focus on the A-Team re-runs....
Posted by: Bobby || 11/30/2006 6:03 Comments || Top||

#3  "Geeze... A-team reruns have a deeper plot...." and better marksmanship.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/30/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Exactly the strategy used against the Crusader states. Now all that's left of them is a little rump north of Beruit.

Posted by: 3dc || 11/30/2006 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  #1 Somebody got to pay the price for USA rapprochement with Iraq's neighbors.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 17:45 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Tamil Tigers isolated in bid for own state in Sri Lanka
A rebel bid for an independent Tamil state in Sri Lanka has run into outright international rejection with the United States leading calls for new peace talks and an end to bloodshed. Neither peace broker Norway nor regional power India offered any support to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), who appealed for international recognition for a renewed separatist struggle.

LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran, accusing Sri Lanka of waging war under cover of peace talks, said Monday the 2.5-million Tamil minority were left “with no other option but an independent state”. He went back on a 2002 pledge to accept a federal solution to the ethnic conflict which led to a ceasefire and years of Norwegian-sponsored peace talks.

The US, which outlawed the rebels as terrorists in 1997, took a hard line against Prabhakaran’s vow to build Tamils their own state in the north and east of the island. US ambassador Robert Blake said Washington “strongly disagrees” with the rebels, and ruled out a military solution. “There is a very clear alternative, which is for the LTTE to renounce terrorism, to give up violence and to join in negotiating a peaceful solution to Sri Lanka’s conflict that will satisfy the aspirations of all of the country’s people,” Blake said Tuesday night.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No oil rich relatives, eh?
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Hez Mass Protests to Begin Friday
Hizbullah and the opposition forces have called for mass protests to begin Friday in downtown Beirut with the aim of bringing down the Western-backed government.

The call for peaceful street action came in a statement broadcast Thursday on the television stations of Hezbollah and other opposition groups. It said the street action would begin on Friday at 3 p.m. Beirut Time in downtown Beirut, where the embattled government of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has its offices.
Looks like Aoun was out of the loop on that decision.
The leader of the Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, said Thursday that Lebanon's Western-backed government had failed and he called for peaceful protests to force it to resign. Prime Minister Fouad Siniora's government "has proven it is incompetent and has failed to fulfill its promises and achieve anything significant," Nasrallah said in a televised address broadcast on Hizbullah's television station, Al-Manar.

The prime minister and members of his Cabinet have been bracing for mass demonstrations for days. The security forces have been deploying troops and armored vehicles outside government offices, where the prime minister is being held.

The call for protests came after weeks of political tension between groups in the opposition, led by Hizbullah, and factions supporting the government, which has wide Western backing.

The opposition "calls on all the Lebanese of all sects and parties ... to gather peacefully and stage an open-ended sit-in to protest the absence of real political participation and to demand a national unity government, whose priority is to decide a new election law," the statement said.
"We're counting noses, too!"
Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah urged Lebanese to "turn out massively" for the opposition demonstration to press demands for a government of national unity. It called on supporters to carry only the Lebanese flag and to avoid carrying party banners or posters.

Although the statement said the protest would be peaceful, any attempt by demonstrators to take over government buildings could lead to violence. Previously groups that support Siniora's government have vowed to call counter demonstrations.

It was not clear from the opposition statement whether the groups would attempt to take over government buildings.
Place your bets, gentlemen.
Communications Minister Marwan Hamadeh said that Lebanon's cabinet will not give in to mass demonstrations called by the opposition for Friday in support of demands for a national unity government.
Pro-Syria Lebanese president Lahoud has repeatedly referred to the Siniora government as "illegitimate", so the possibility that mass demonstrations will lead to chaos is ... prety good.
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#1  Goody.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 17:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Excellent opportunity for a ballsy Israeli leadership to break out a number of F-15s and F-16s to do a number on these assholes.

Instead, a new, de-balled Israeli leadership, shorn of combat experience of the older generation, will sit by idly twisting its nose hairs.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/30/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Instead the Israeli leadership will have a ring seat for the new (round) of the Lebanese civil war.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/30/2006 22:28 Comments || Top||


Iran’s Leader Urges Americans to Reject Bush Policies
NYT. More of the usual. Bush bad. Anyone opposed good. Yadda.
BEIRUT, Lebanon, Nov. 29 — Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, told the American people on Wednesday that he was certain they detested President Bush’s policies — his support for Israel, war in Iraq and curtailed civil liberties — and he offered to work with them to reverse those policies.

The call came in the form of a six-page letter in English addressed to “noble Americans” that discussed “the many wars and calamities caused by the U.S. administration.” It suggested that Americans had been fooled into accepting their government’s policies, especially toward Israel.

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Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Also the usual invitation to join Allan's Army over by the well.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/30/2006 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran’s Leader and the DNC Urge Americans to Reject Bush Policies
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/30/2006 5:55 Comments || Top||

#3 
After referring to Abu Ghraib in Iraq and the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, Mr. Ahmadinejad wrote: “I have no doubt that the American people do not approve of this behavior and indeed deplore it.”


I sure do! We should have shot every goddamned one of them.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/30/2006 8:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Yep. What RC said.

Posted by: eLarson || 11/30/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#5  My American advice to Mahmoud would be,
Less Islam, More Pussy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/30/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#6  I think Bush should send a letter to the Iranian people. Let's see how much publicity IT gets!!!!
Posted by: PlanetDan || 11/30/2006 13:13 Comments || Top||

#7  Absolutely LOVE the pic!
Posted by: BA || 11/30/2006 23:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Mahmoud Ahmadinejad needs to spend less time buggering his pet goat allah.

I'm still waiting for the Jews to bomb Iran back into the stone age. But how could you tell the difference.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, pigs piss upon him.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 23:09 Comments || Top||


Aoun Sez Leb Demonstrations Are Delayed
The Christian ally of the Lebanese militant Shiite group Hezbollah, hardliner General Michel Aoun, said that to pave the way for peaceful solutions to the country's political crisis there will be no street protests in the coming two days. "We are ready to go to the streets with our allies, but we will allow some time for some new negotiations," General Michel Aoun.

Aoun, called on his supporters to be ready at anytime. "We are going to take to the streets peacefully. The other camp is obliging us to do this," Aoun added. "I call on all Lebanese to take part in this movement against the (anti-Syrian) government" of Prime Minister Fouad Seniora, he said. But Aoun set no date for the protests.

Aoun reiterated his demands for a government of national unity that will represent all the Lebanese sects. Aoun and his close ally Hezbollah threatened to take to the streets to topple the anti-Syrian majority government of Prime Minister Fouad Seniora. The political tension in the country has caused panic among Lebanese who were glued to radios on Wednesday after rumours spread that pro-Syrian groups would demonstrate in the coming 48 hours and that Hezbollah chief Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah had been delegated to announce the zero hour for the protests.
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US challenges Assad's "negative attitudes"
Showing no sign of warming to Syria, the Bush administration on Wednesday sharply rejected a charge of US colonialism by President Bashar Assad and demanded Syria cease its support for terror groups.

Even as the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel led by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Rep. Lee H. Hamilton, weighs recommending a more conciliatory US foreign policy, the State Department struck back hard at Damascus. Among possible changes the panel is believed to be considering is a renewal of diplomatic dialogue with Syria, as well as Iran.
Posted by: Fred || 11/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is a problem of your own making George. If you had allowed the Army in Iraq to pursue the terrorists, who infiltrated from Syria, up to the gates of Damascus, none of this would be eating away at the work in Iraq today. Kinder gentler doesn't get it with these people. A gun directly in their face, they understand. Termination has shown remarkable success in deterring second offenses.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/30/2006 9:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Amen, P2K, amen.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 11/30/2006 10:57 Comments || Top||

#3  "All these negative waves, man!"
Posted by: Thrigum Hupeating7439 || 11/30/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Pope’s Turkish visit a crusade, claims Al Qaeda

BRIAN MURPHY, Istanbul November 30 2006

Al Qaeda in Iraq yesterday denounced the Pope's visit to Turkey, calling it part of a "crusader campaign" against Islam. The Vatican said the comments showed the need to fight violence in the name of religion.
The trip is Benedict XVI's first to an Islamic country as pontiff, seeking dialogue with Muslims who were angered by a speech in September in which he cited a medieval text that linked Islam and violence.

Al Qaeda in Iraq, that nation's most feared Islamic militant group, posted its statement on a militant website.
"The Pope's visit, in fact, is to consolidate the crusader campaign against the lands of Islam after the failure of the crusader leaders [in Iraq and Afghanistan] . . . and an attempt to extinguish the burning ember of Islam inside our Turkish brothers," it said.
It said the Pope wanted to ensure Turkey remained secular and was "driven into the arms of the European Union to stop the spread of Islam".

The statement did not include any threat to the Pope, saying only that the group was "confident in the defeat of Rome in all parts of the Islamic world".

The Vatican said the denunciation showed the need for faiths to unite against violence.
"This type of message shows once again the urgency and importance of a common commitment of all forces against violence," said the Rev Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman. "It also shows the need of various faiths to say 'no' to violence in the name of God."

The Pope's four-day pilgrimage to Turkey was seen as a sign of its increasing engagement with the West at a time when it is involved in EU accession talks.
The European Commission, however, dealt a sharp blow yesterday to Turkey's hopes of joining the European Union, recommending a partial suspension of talks after Ankara refused to open its ports to Cyprus.

The EU executive said negotiations could not be concluded until the Cyprus trade dispute was resolved.
Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan called the recommendation "unacceptable".

Britain, Turkey's strongest EU ally, called it "disappointingly tough". Prime Minister Tony Blair had earlier said the EU should not send a negative signal to Turkey as this could be "a serious mistake for Europe long-term".
"We confirm these negotiations must continue, although at slower pace," EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn said yesterday. EU foreign ministers will decide whether to back the recommendation on December 11.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/30/2006 13:16 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pope’s Turkish visit a crusade, claims Al Qaeda

You bet it is, assholes. As if Islam hasn't declared war on all of Western civilization. Now you have the temerity to wail about how we feel obliged to come onto your turf and start spelling out exactly what will happen if you go on stirring up this shit. Just keep rallying your religion and suppressing all internal opposition by any moderates. The net result is that al Qaeda will get ALL Muslims killed. Welcome to your twisted vision of paradise, fuckwits. We are rallying our religion(s) in order to make sure it ISN'T us that all end up dead. Have a problem with that? I'm sure you do, seeing as how you want every damned thing both ways so long as they are all in your favor.

How it must rankle Islam's ass to see a man of courage like Pope Benedict walk straight into the lion's den and call them on their crap. Go ahead, try and off this brave soul. Watch the shitstorm that breaks loose if you do. Killing the Pope would do more to strip away Islam's protective mantle as The Religion of Peace [spit], than just about anything currently possible. I believe Benedict knows it just as it is equally possible that Islam really has no clue regarding this beyond its usual threats and seething.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/30/2006 13:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey Zenster, BRAVO!!!

Count me in for the Crusade.
Posted by: cajunbelle || 11/30/2006 15:06 Comments || Top||

#3  "The Pope's visit, in fact, is to consolidate the crusader campaign against the lands of Islam after the failure of the crusader leaders [in Iraq and Afghanistan] . . . and an attempt to extinguish the burning ember of Islam inside our Turkish brothers . . . "

The real significance here is that th Islamofacists see Iraq and Afghnistan as a failure. Failure = weakness.

"The statement did not include any threat to the Pope, saying only that the group was "confident in the defeat of Rome in all parts of the Islamic world"."

Here are the three, top, uniting goals: destroy the White House (the actual White House), destroy the Vatican, destroy the Jews (especially in Israel).

The usual Moslem paranoia: "It said the Pope wanted to ensure Turkey remained secular and was "driven into the arms of the European Union to stop the spread of Islam".
Posted by: ex-lib || 11/30/2006 15:11 Comments || Top||

#4  We can only hope it's a crusade and about time.

How it must rankle Islam's ass to see a man of courage like Pope Benedict walk straight into the lion's den and call them on their crap

Bravo Zen, well put!
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 15:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah, sorta like Pre-Boarding. This is Pre-Crusade to the full blown event. You won't mistake the real thing as soon as all the people stand up and proceed to the [starting] gate.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/30/2006 18:40 Comments || Top||


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"Sanctuary Cities:" What are they?


From 9/11 Commission hearings:

LEHMAN: "Were you aware that it was the US government established policy not to question or oppose the sanctuary policies of New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Chicago, San Diego for political reasons, which policy in those cities prohibited the local police from cooperating at all with federal immigration authorities?"

CONDOLEEZA RICE: "I do not believe I was aware of that."

Sanctuary Cities: What are they?


Despite a federal law that requires local governments to cooperate with Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agency, many large urban cities (and some small) have adopted so-called "sanctuary policies." Generally, sanctuary policies instruct city employees not to notify the federal government of the presence of illegal aliens living in their communities. The policies also end the distinction between legal and illegal immigration -- so illegal aliens often benefit from city services too.

The justification of creating sanctuary cities is often under the guise of protecting "immigrant rights." But illegal aliens are not immigrants -- immigrants come to the US legally, and maintain their legal presence. When a person is illegally smuggled into the US or knowingly violates their visa restrictions -- he/she is not an immigrant or visitor, but an illegal alien subject to deportation. The real reason behind sanctuary policies are public officials bowing to political pressure from the open-border lobby -- and/or an attempt to pander for votes at election time.

The bottom-line is that US cities with sanctuary policies provide safe havens for illegal aliens and/or terrorists in America. These policies allow criminal aliens to avoid deportation because they prevent local police from reporting foreign criminals to ICE.

Voters need to demand that their public officials take US security seriously, and repeal these idiotic sanctuary policies. Does your city have a sanctuary policy? View the list below to see if your city is on this reader submitted list.

List of US Sanctuary Cities*
*Note: Not independently confirmed by OJJPAC. If you believe a city should not be listed, please send an email, and OJJPAC will attempt to verify.

Last updated: 8/17/06

Alabama
Alabaster, AL

Arizona
Phoenix, AZ

California
Bell Gardens, CA
City of Industry, CA
City of Commerce, CA
Cypress, CA
Davis CA
Diamond Bar, CA
Downey, CA
Lakewood, CA
Los Angeles, CA
Long Beach, CA
Maywood, CA
Paramount, CA
Pico Rivera, CA
Sonoma County, CA
So. Gate, CA
San Diego, CA
San Francisco, CA
Vernon, CA
Wilmington, CA

Colorado
Aurora, CO
Commerce City, CO
Denver, CO
Federal Heights, CO
Fort Collins CO
Thornton, CO
Westminster, CO

Connecticut
Springfield CT (Disputed)

Florida
DeLeon Springs, FL
Deltona, Fl
Miami, FL
Sanford, Fl

Illinois
Chicago, IL

Massachusetts
Cambridge, Mass.

Maryland
Baltmore, MD
Gaithersburg, MD
Takoma Park, MD

Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN
St. Paul, MN

New Jersey
Camden, NJ
Fort Lee, NJ
Jersey City, NJ
North Bergen, NJ
Trenton, NJ
Union City, NJ
West New York, NJ

New York
Bay Shore, NY
Brentwood, NY
Central Islip, NY
Farmingville, NY
New York City, NY
Peekskill, NY
Riverhead, NY
Shirly/Mastic, NY
Uniondale, NY
Westbury, NY

North Carolina
Charlotte, NC
Raleigh
Winston-Salem

Oregon
Portland, OR

Texas
Austin, TX
Brownsville, TX
Denton, Tx
Dallas, TX
Ft.Worth, TX
Houston, TX
Laredo, TX
Mcallen, TX
San Antonio, TX [Note: The Sanctuary status of San Antonio is under dispute so OJJPAC is researching the issue to determine if the city's belongs on this list or not.]

Utah
Provo, UT
Salt Lake City, UT

Virginia
Fairfax County, VA (?)

Wisconsin
Madison, WI

Wyoming
Jackson Hole, WY

Most of these will fall into one of four categories: Lefty-infested college towns (Berkeley, Madison, Austin), cities with industries and services that depend on cheap labor (Chicago, Winston-Salem, City of Industry), wealthy communities where large numbers of illegals provide the domestic help (Jackson Hole), or cities with large Hispanic populations (Laredo).
There is no genuine ideological consensus on this issue, though almost all hard leftists are pro-illegal. Note, for example, that college-town Cambridge is the only sanctuary in liberal run Massachusetts. The driving forces appear to be racism, do-gooder elitism, and cheap-labor profiteering.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/30/2006 15:11 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The answer here is quite simple. Declare these cities in rebellion against the US. Arrest their city officials, try them for treason and execute them while putting the city under federal management for a month or two while you hold new elections.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/30/2006 16:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Hell I could overrun Deltona with my schools 5th graders. Course we'd miss FCAT prep time.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/30/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Seems you'd be a fool to come to the US illegally and not find a place to live in one of these sanctuary cities. So in effect these cities have chosen to take on the financial burden of illegals from the state and feds.

Wonder how long that lasts when these cities start to go deeper and deeper into debt.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/30/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#4  That graphic's purdy interesting. "No Bosses. No Borders." Taken to its logical end, it would be the end of precisely those who march around carrying the signs.

I spent enough of my youth on a "farm" that I could prolly grow / raise more than I need, assuming I had the ammo hoard I'd need to protect it from the type of people who carry signs like that.

Their cities wouldn't be a sanctuary if they won - they'd be Hell on Earth. Fitting.
Posted by: .com || 11/30/2006 18:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Another few reasons are out here in Phoenix. First of all, the illegals here integrate quickly and create few problems. Second, the feds want local communities to pay, directly and indirectly, for doing federal work. Third, the local and State police are far more interested in getting the cooperation of the illegals in solving serious felony crimes--which is why they are not too keen in alienating their informants.

Finally, the feds have in past been astoundingly ham-handed out here when dealing with illegals. They have done crap like search (white) people's homes without a warrant, because they saw a brown person walk through their yard. They had a city sweep in Chandler where anyone with dark skin was stopped on the street and had ID demanded of them. Some several times.

I even had a red-haired Irish friend with a tan sent to Nogales at the point of an M-16 because he was picking oranges without having his drivers license with him. Boy, was he pissed.

We also have an s-load of kids whose parents are illegal, but the kids are American, don't speak Spanish, and have never been to Mexico.

The biggest problem is that even if you have a small business and net $100k/year, if you are illegal, it is a major pain in the ass, and about a decade of hassle, to become legal. You even have to leave the US to do it. No middle class person wants to do that, it is insane.

If you could just buy yourself legal, even for $50,000, Phoenix would have thousands of new legal residents overnight. And most of them would vote republican.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/30/2006 18:19 Comments || Top||

#6  All the Colorado Cities are either suburbs of Denver, or in the case of Fort Collins, a university town. The solution is quite easy - just declare that all federal funding will be withheld from those cities refusing to cooperate, and stick to it. These cities NEED federal funds to continue their moonbat ways. Without them, they will dry up and blow away - or at least, come to their senses. I'm sure there are laws already on the books that would allow this. The same goes for college towns - just declare that the colleges in those towns are not eligible for federal funding OFANY KIND, and watch the attitude change. Also watch the ACLU and a host of other moonbats start flinging around legal challenges that can easily be defeated - except when pled before a Carter or Clinton appointee.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/30/2006 18:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Here's another good one for you. Illegals can get mortgages. Who'd a thunk it.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/30/2006 19:21 Comments || Top||

#8  I'd like to chime in and agree with Anonymoose, especially with point #3. The cops here in San Diego don't like to 'waste' their time dealing with immigration crimes when there are so many other priorities. Things like robbery, assault, rape, and gang violence are deemed far more important.

If illegals in the community know they can be deported for reporting these sorts of crimes, they will not talk to the police. Since around here that can be a lot of people, you're going to have pretty large areas where the law runs thin. That leaves the nasty criminals running around and making things worse for everyone, since they don't usually confine their crimes to illegals.

At least where the cops and courts are concerned, they figure when they run out of violent criminals, they'll go after the those who are here illegally.

As for the people who advocate and implement the policies ignoring legal status for benefits in community services and university education, they have no such excuse. Most of them I talk to will always have some sort of world view that has the current U.S. as the problem of just about anything. And they're here to fix it. Always makes me scratch my head in wonder.
Posted by: beer_me || 11/30/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||

#9  Simple solution: Cut all federal funds to those cities - this includes Roads, Education, Medical, etc....

Pretty soon those cities will come around.

I'm suprised Seattle isn't on the list.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/30/2006 20:47 Comments || Top||

#10  They have Wilmington listed separately from Los Angeles. I believe W is part of LA. Also they left out Arcata, CA a college town.
Posted by: Leonidas || 11/30/2006 21:48 Comments || Top||

#11  hey, how do I sign up to be an illegal? I sure would like all the benefits and free ride.


How sad this has become.
(shakes head)
Posted by: Jan || 11/30/2006 23:30 Comments || Top||



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