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India-Pakistan
Bin Lying snitches out Bin Laden
NEW YORK, Oct. 1 (UPI) -- Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden is hiding in the tiny, sparsely populated, heavily mountainous eastern Afghan province of Kunar, Pakistan's president says.

"It's not a hunch," President Pervez Musharraf told The Sunday Times of London. yep it's another lie, 'cause everyone knows he resides at yo momma house Perv.

Bin Laden is known to be hiding in the strongly tribal province, embedded in the Hindu Kush mountain range, Musharraf said.

He said bin Laden might be receiving help from Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, the country's prime minister twice in the 1990s, who has been in hiding since siding with bin Laden shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks against the United States.

Musharraf spoke with the newspaper in New York after a contentious White House dinner meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, hosted by President Bush. Kunar Province



Posted by: Jimmuah || 10/01/2006 13:13 || Comments || Link || [17 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bin Lying snitches out Bin Laden

every time his lips move.. you say..
Posted by: RD || 10/01/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Pay no attention to the twice-a-week grocery deliveries from Lahore, though...
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2006 15:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Dammit why don't we Arc-Light the zone and get the game going? This is reminding me more and more of the lead up of the Paris Peace talks.
Posted by: 6 || 10/01/2006 18:46 Comments || Top||

#4  No Arclight. Do a Deacon Jones style snatch and grap. Pack the entire town across the Afghan border then start emptying the bus until you get to the 6'5" guy.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/01/2006 22:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Lol! Should be easy to spot, lol.
Posted by: .com || 10/01/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||


IAF gets edgy over fighter crunch
New Delhi, Sept. 30: The Indian Air Force has told the government that it needs to buy combat aircraft urgently to maintain its edge over the Pakistan Air Force. So desperate is the IAF’s need that a letter written by its head, Air Chief Marshal S.P. Tyagi, to the defence minister, Pranab Mukherjee, has been leaked to the media.

In the letter written in July, Tyagi has detailed the squadron strength of the IAF and the Pakistan Air Force and said unless diplomatic pressures work to stop or retard the supply of American and Chinese fighter jets to Pakistan, the IAF will be hard put to retain its traditional edge.

The letter has been leaked — despite the high security that is supposed to guard correspondence between the air chief and the defence minister — less than a fortnight ahead of October 8, when the air force will flag off its Platinum Jubilee celebrations. Both, the contents of the letter and the fact that it was leaked, point to the desperation of air headquarters.

For Tyagi, who has often said he needs 126 multi-role combat aircraft “today”, writing a letter to the government and detailing his service’s needs is like a last resort. The Centre officially maintains that expenses for security purposes are never held back. The air chief has also said it was important to plan for the long-term to ensure a favourable balance of power with Pakistan.

In the letter, Tyagi has said:

The IAF is down to 34 fighter aircraft squadrons. This is at least six squadrons (120 aircraft) short of the level that is said to be necessary

With the phasing out of MiG 21s — the oldest fighter aircraft — the IAF will be down to about 31 squadrons in six years

IAF fighter squadron strength could go down to about 26 squadrons — the same as Pakistan’s — by 2018

But unlike India, where the government has done nothing to buy the 126 planes that the air force has urgently requested, Tyagi says Pakistan’s air force is getting plenty of new hi-tech aircraft. The air chief marshal has warned that Pakistan is set to strengthen its air force by acquiring two squadrons of F-16s from the US and also Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft and by co-developing the J-17 Thunder with the Chinese.

Accounting for all the acquisitions by Pakistan, the IAF will take about a decade at the very least to stumble back to its desired number of squadrons. In the interim, Tyagi has suggested, the government should take a serious look at a fast-track procurement of 40 Sukhoi 30 Mki multi-role aircraft.

He has also said the global tender for the 126 multi-role combat aircraft that has been put on hold should be immediately issued. Though this is never admitted publicly, the IAF is worried that the government is yet to decide on the global tender for these aircraft even though responses to Requests for Information were received more than 10 months back.
Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 11:09 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Indian Finance Minister is not at all fond of military spending.. they're gonna have to wait a long time for new aircraft
Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

#2  If they need 'em, Lend-Lease program could be resurrected.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/01/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Another governement with leaks a plenty.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/01/2006 22:14 Comments || Top||


Musharraf buys all copies of sensitive ‘65 war book
ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Army general headquarters has purchased all 22,000 copies of a sensitive book by a former Inter Services Intelligence(ISI) chief on the myth of the victory claimed by the Pakistan Army in the 1965 war against India.

The army felt The Myth of 1965 Victory by Lieutenant General Mahmood Ahmed would malign the armed forces’ image. According to GHQ sources, army chief General Pervez Musharraf found the book, published by Oxford University Press, ‘too sensitive’.

The sources said Mahmood had submitted the manuscript to the GHQ as per rules. However, after going through the manuscript, the GHQ referred it to Musharraf, who noted on the file that Mahmood should review sensitive parts of the book and the title, especially the use of the word ‘myth’ in relation to the 1965 war.
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Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 10:43 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  pathetic efforts to maintain a Pak myth. Losers in every war.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/01/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  But the Army didn't bother to buy up President General Dr. Pervez Musharref'd book? (He must be a Dr. -- a PhD is required for all national level politicians over there for some reason.) How insulting!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/01/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#3  they only go after the nonfiction, TW
Posted by: Frank G || 10/01/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#4  And from Perv's own book

'Make Mullah Omar Honda’s brand ambassador'

New Delhi

After Taliban leader Mullah Omar escaped from advancing US forces on a Honda motorcycle, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf jokingly advised the Japanese Prime Minister that the terrorist should be made a brand ambassador for the automobile major. In his book In the Line of Fire: A Memoir, Musharraf said the US started massive carpet-bombing of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 and the Northern Alliance simultaneously launched a land offensive. This led to Taliban cadres fleeing from Afghanistan into the mountains. In the first week of Dec 2001, Mullah Omar, sensing defeat, escaped on a Honda motorcyle and went into hiding, Musharraf writes. Once when Japanese PM Koizumi asked me about the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, I told him that Omar had escaped on a Honda motorcyle, says Musharraf. He then suggested that the best advertisement for Honda would be an ad campaign showing Mullah Omar fleeing on one of its motorcyles.
Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Perv: I told him that Omar had escaped on a Honda motorcyle, says Musharraf. He then suggested that the best advertisement for Honda would be an ad campaign showing Mullah Omar fleeing on one of its motorcyles.

ha ha ha..

I can think of add campaign for a J-Damn.
Posted by: RD || 10/01/2006 17:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Heh, I will have a copy online for the world in less than two weeks.
Posted by: newc || 10/01/2006 20:20 Comments || Top||


Pakistan Surrenders
The Taliban control the border with Afghanistan.
by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross & Bill Roggio


INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS woke up on September 5 to unsettling news. The government of Pakistan, they learned, had entered into a peace agreement with the Taliban insurgency that essentially cedes authority in North Waziristan, the mountainous tribal region bordering Afghanistan, to the Taliban and al Qaeda. Just ten days later, the blow was compounded when the government of Pakistan released a large number of jihadists from prison. Together, these events may constitute the most significant development in the global war on terror in the past year--yet the media have taken little notice.

For four years, the Pakistani military engaged in a campaign to assert governmental control over Wazir istan. The cost to Pakistan has been considerable; some intelligence sources believe this fighting has exacted a higher death toll on the Pakistani military than U.S. forces have sustained in Iraq. It is in this context that Pakistan gave up on South Waziristan last spring, abandoning its effort to control that area. Thereafter, sharia law was declared in South Waziristan, and the Taliban began to rule openly.

Yet even in the wake of Pakistan's earlier surrender of South Waziristan, this new agreement, known as the Waziristan Accord, is surprising. It entails a virtually unconditional surrender of Waziristan.

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Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 09:06 || Comments || Link || [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Musharraf has reiterated that the U.S.-led coalition forces in Afghan istan won't be allowed into the tribal areas covered by the peace deal. "On our side of the border there will be a total uprising if a foreigner enters that area," he said. "It's not possible at all, we will never allow any foreigners into that area. It's against the culture of the people there."

Well, that clarifies something we wondered about..
Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 9:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah, the issue is quite crystal clear.
Posted by: Duh! || 10/01/2006 9:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't see where in the fine print it stops aggrieved tribes in Afghanistan from 'raiding' into Pakland. Time to fire up the old blood feud machine.
Posted by: Sneresing Uleaper6513 || 10/01/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Arc Light!
Posted by: 3dc || 10/01/2006 13:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Arc Light!
Posted by: 6 || 10/01/2006 19:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Not enough BUFFs left for ARC LIGHT. START II chopped them all to pieces. There are only 94 B-52H models left flyable.
Posted by: RWV || 10/01/2006 23:55 Comments || Top||


Monica Bedi finds jail life tough as "prisoner number 103"
From the glamorous world of cinema and a life of comfort, Monica Bedi—who was a friend of underworld mobster Abu Salem—is finding it difficult to adjust to the tough life in prison.

Bedi was on Friday sentenced to five years imprisonment for getting a passport under a fictitious name.

According to sources in Chanchalguda women's prison, where Bedi is lodged, she was mainly quiet and appeared to be depressed. The facilities she had been enjoying while the trial was on, ever since she was lodged there after her extradition from Portugal along with Abu Salem in November 2005, have been withdrawn.

She was enrolled as "prisoner number 103" after the special Central Buro of Investigation (CBI) court on Friday convicted and sentenced her. The designer dresses that she has been wearing during the past 10 months of the trial have been replaced with white saris and blouses. When asked to choose between white saris and salwar suits, in accordance with jail rules, Bedi is reported to have picked up three pairs of saris and blouses.

Bedi was shifted to one of the barracks meant for convicts late on Friday following the court verdict, said a jail official. The jail has 330 prisoners. Bedi is sharing the barrack with 22 prisoners.

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Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 08:38 || Comments || Link || [17 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Monica Bedi finds jail life tough as "prisoner number 103

i think i'll light a stick of incensed for her.
Posted by: RD || 10/01/2006 14:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I can see a movie or real-word TV show based on this in the not-so-near future.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2006 15:09 Comments || Top||

#3  life's tough as a gun moll - shoulda gone out like Bonny Parker
Posted by: Frank G || 10/01/2006 16:27 Comments || Top||


Duh Moment II: Pakistani spy agency under fire from all sides
Five years into a war on terrorism, abiding distrust of Pakistan among allies and neighbors was laid bare in the past few days through a series of accusations against its military secret service.

On Saturday, Indian police said the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), along with Lashkar-e-Taiba, branded a terrorist group by the United States, was behind bomb blasts that killed 186 people and wounded hundreds in Mumbai on July 11.

President Pervez Musharraf had already spent the latter days of a lengthy overseas trip fending off Afghan and British insinuations that members of his security apparatus were covertly supporting the Taliban insurgency raging in southern Afghanistan.

Coming just two weeks after Musharraf managed to get India to resume a peace process that New Delhi froze after the Mumbai blasts, the timing of the allegation against the ISI is bad.

The agency is well-used to being blamed, though the West had been happy to enlist its support in a covert war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan during the 1980s, just as it is now being used in the war on terrorism.

"Ever since I can remember, whenever there is something on, whenever a blast takes place here, or something in Afghanistan, there is the September 11, all sorts of things, so ISI is always in the eye of the storm," said Lieutenant-General Asad Durrani, a former head of the ISI.

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Posted by: .com || 10/01/2006 05:07 || Comments || Link || [20 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai pointedly warned of the dangers in a remark last week in the United States that snakes cannot be trained to bite other people.

Musharraf's modus of operandi is playing a double game. Always was and still is.
Posted by: anon || 10/01/2006 7:31 Comments || Top||

#2 
Redacted by moderator and moved to the
sinktrap. This same comment, word for word, was posted in three different threads. ONCE IS ENOUGH.
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 7:34 Comments || Top||

#3  The US must change the nature of dealings with the Pakis-they never were friends and never will be. The border issue has to be readdressed:

SOLUTION

Afghanistan and Balochistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Balochistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Balochistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because the US and Allied forces in Afghanistan are positioned to facilitate the enforcement of the Court’s judgment.

After Pakistan vacates territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan, a new boarder should be demarked amicably to determine Baloch dominated areas to become the new Balochistan, and Pashtun dominated areas to be merged into Afghanistan. And, with the help of the US and Allied forces, the Afghans and the Baloch forces can flush out members of Al-Qaeda and Talebans from their respective countries.

A wise observer once said, “Pakistan is a completely superfluous and artificially created spot on the world map that has become a breeding ground for extremism, and trouble that would be best done away with.”
http://afghanland.com/history/durrand.html
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 7:34 Comments || Top||


Perv says his four-nation tour helped remove misperceptions
(KUNA) -- Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf Saturday said his four-nation visit helped promote understanding with world leaders on regional and international issues including the war on terrorism and remove misperception about Pakistan, especially the peace deal to curb Taliban activities. "My visit has been very successful", the Associate Press of Pakistan (APP) quoted Musharraf as saying on his return from London on Saturday. The President also visited Brussels, Cuba and the United States.
"Yup. I really opened them infidels' eyes, by Gum!"
In his wide-ranging talks with the leadership of US, UK and European Union (EU), the President said he discussed the situation in Afghanistan in the wake of shifting of focus from Al-Qaeda to Taliban, peace deal with tribal elders of North Waziristan tribal agency and the need to address the root causes of terrorism.

On the sideline of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) summit in Havana Cuba, the President held an important meeting with the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. He described the meeting as very important and said it was a way forward towards conflict resolution.

President Musharraf also held important bilateral meetings with various leaders in Havana, including the President of Iran and OIC Secretary General to exchange views on regional and international issues of mutual concern. Replying to a question, the President said he discussed with the western leadership the conditions in the Muslim world and the prospects of counter terrorism campaign. The President said he highlighted the importance of resolution of Palestinian dispute, which lies at the core of whatever is happening around the world and the problems the Muslim world is facing today.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [24 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yea the first being that Pakistan is on our side in the WoT.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/01/2006 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I was so sure sure that this was a Scott Ott thingy I almost didn't click it.
Posted by: RD || 10/01/2006 1:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah. Right. Just make sure your threats don't get out of hand because you're in a bad positon to be the hold-up.
Posted by: gorb || 10/01/2006 2:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Perv says his four-nation tour helped remove misperceptions

Yes indeed, Perv has removed any doubt history's accountants might have about how his mouth writes checks his ass can't cash.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/01/2006 2:49 Comments || Top||

#5  He will still be assasinated by his own pakis.
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#6 
Redacted by moderator and moved to the
sinktrap. This same comment, word for word, was posted in three different threads. ONCE IS ENOUGH.
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Yeah, Perverse has removed much of the the illusion ascribed to himself.
Posted by: Duh! || 10/01/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#8  I was under the misperception that a nuclear Iran is a bigger problem than a nuclear Pakistan, but thanks to Perv's high profile I have learned a lot about him and now I'd just as soon we take out Pakistan's nuclear capabilities first. Perv is totally untrustworthy and is about one step away from losing control to people who would nuke us just a quick as Ahmanutjob.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/01/2006 18:08 Comments || Top||

#9  The US must change the nature of dealings with the Pakis-they never were friends and never will be. The border issue has to be readdressed:

SOLUTION

Afghanistan and Balochistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Balochistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Balochistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because the US and Allied forces in Afghanistan are positioned to facilitate the enforcement of the Court’s judgment.

After Pakistan vacates territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan, a new boarder should be demarked amicably to determine Baloch dominated areas to become the new Balochistan, and Pashtun dominated areas to be merged into Afghanistan. And, with the help of the US and Allied forces, the Afghans and the Baloch forces can flush out members of Al-Qaeda and Talebans from their respective countries.

A wise observer once said, “Pakistan is a completely superfluous and artificially created spot on the world map that has become a breeding ground for extremism, and trouble that would be best done away with.”
http://afghanland.com/history/durrand.html
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||


Four killed, six injured in tribal clash
GHALANAI: At least four people were killed and six others were seriously injured in a clash between two rival groups in Sagi area, some 35 kilometres from Ghalanai in Mohmand Agency on Saturday.

According to political administration officials, the incident occurred when a large number of supporters of men who were being detained by the political administration for kidnapping a doctor gathered in Sagi area. "After the protesters blocked the Bajuar-Mohmand, the administration released the men. However, the protesters divided into two groups for unknown reasons and started firing at each other," Assistant Political Agent Islam Zeb told Daily Times. He said that as a result of the clash, Hazrat Nabi, Tawaiz Gul, Umer Gul and Rahim Gul were killed on the spot, while six people received serious injuries. The injured have been admitted to Bajuar Agency and Peshawar hospitals.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:


Aziz for inter-faith understanding
Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz on Saturday said the lack of inter-faith and inter-cultural understanding was a major challenge for the world.

Talking to a delegation of Christian leaders from the US, UK and Netherlands, he urged them to work harder for the promotion of inter-faith harmony to make the world a better place to live in. He said minorities in Pakistan were free to practice their faith and that the government was taking all possible measures to ensure that people belonging to different faiths continued to live in peace and harmony.

Emphasising the need for interfaith dialogue to promote better understanding among the people of various faiths, he said Islam encouraged peace, tolerance, brotherhood and respect for all religions. The prime minister said that minorities had been given the dual right to vote for the first time in the country's history, allowing them to vote for general seats as well as for the particular seats reserved for them.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Inter" derives from Internal, which is seemingly missing from Islam. External forces is the differnece. Just like the media says "Insurgents" even when they are "exsurgents".

Interfaith means they understand Faith as a vocabulary and as a doctrine which they refuse t learn.

So, welcome to the end of Islam.
Posted by: newc || 10/01/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Wotta load. He must use industrial strength glue to keep those lips on...
Posted by: PBMcL || 10/01/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Talking to a delegation of Christian leaders from the US, UK and Netherlands, he urged them to work harder for the promotion of inter-faith harmony to make the world a better place to live in.

In other words, "it's all your fault".
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Everything was fine until the extremists came along and the moderates didn't do $hit to stop them. Get to work on yourself and if/when you finally get there, you'll find Christians, Jews and pretty much most of the rest of the planet was already there all along.
Posted by: gorb || 10/01/2006 2:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Let's translate: to PM Aziz, interfaith harmony means you-all act like proper little dhimmis, and we Muslims who were set by God to beat you like donkeys, we will allow you to do so. Anything else will precipitate disharmony.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/01/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Ms. TW : Bingo!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/01/2006 14:28 Comments || Top||

#7  He must use industrial strength glue to keep those lips on

Naaaa, vacuum -- between the ears.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/01/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Could be, OP. But vacuum gives you at most 15 psi of holding force. In his case the stress has to be huge...
Posted by: PBMcL || 10/01/2006 18:50 Comments || Top||


Taliban forced to shut office
PESHAWAR: The government forced local Taliban to close down their two-day-old office in Miranshah, a spokesman for the Governor's FATA Secretariat revealed in a press statement. He said that though the tribesmen clarified that the office "was not set up to run a parallel administration" in the agency, the issue still remained in the media. The spokesman added, "This measure of closing down the office proves that the tribesmen are fully committed to implementing the peace accord in letter and spirit."
Only thing it proves to me is that Perv's administration doesn't want them operating quite so blatantly yet. No doubt the segment of the population with 2-digit IQs is fooled, but that's only half of us.
The office was "in fact, opened as an internal arrangement to ensure implementation of the peace accord between local tribesmen and the administration", he said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [19 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But, what about the Union?
Posted by: newc || 10/01/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2 
Redacted by moderator and moved to the
sinktrap. This same comment, word for word, was posted in three different threads. ONCE IS ENOUGH.
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 6:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Just a reminder: after the Taliban dictatorship was overthrown, US officials facilitated armistices between the Northern Alliance and Taliban tribes. Taliban dogma remains highly influential in Pashto culture, at least. The Talibani who oversaw the destruction of the giant Buddhas, is now an elected Member of the Afghan assembly. Imams in that country's cities regularly call for jihad terror against the NATO troops outside the doors of their mosques. Man in the street interviews in Kabul and elsewhere, reveal widespread nostaligia for the Taliban government. You can also find support for Mullah Omar in the 500,000 Pakistanis who live in the US.

Musharaf reads our ambiguous messages as a license to play the terror card.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 10/01/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#4  The US must change the nature of dealings with the Pakis-they never were friends and never will be. The border issue has to be readdressed:

SOLUTION

Afghanistan and Balochistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Balochistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Balochistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because the US and Allied forces in Afghanistan are positioned to facilitate the enforcement of the Court’s judgment.

After Pakistan vacates territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan, a new boarder should be demarked amicably to determine Baloch dominated areas to become the new Balochistan, and Pashtun dominated areas to be merged into Afghanistan. And, with the help of the US and Allied forces, the Afghans and the Baloch forces can flush out members of Al-Qaeda and Talebans from their respective countries.

A wise observer once said, “Pakistan is a completely superfluous and artificially created spot on the world map that has become a breeding ground for extremism, and trouble that would be best done away with.”
http://afghanland.com/history/durrand.html
Posted by: hutchrun || 10/01/2006 6:47 Comments || Top||


Pakistan asks for Mumbai blasts' evidence
Pakistan said India should not point fingers without evidence after Mumbai police blamed Pakistani spies and militants on Saturday for a series of blasts that killed 186 people in July. "It is baseless, it is irresponsible and (done) out of habit," Tasnim Aslam, Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said.
Has anyone but me noticed that the Paks don't seem to be conducting their own independent investigations into these atrocities that occur on Indian soil and are so recklessly blamed on them? If I was president, and the nation was blamed for something we hadn't done, like, f'rinstance, an unprovoked attack on the parliament of Canada, I'd be taking active measures to clear our name. I'd probably establish an independent body to conduct a separate investigation from the one I'd certainly order done by the CIA and/or the FBI. I might even request that the Brits, the Frenchies, and the Germans lend unbiased assistance; not having an ax to grind, I'd be sure they'd either clear our national name or find where the rogues were within our organization. If there did turn out to be rogues, I'd have them tried and executed for treason, since the government is expected to make foreign policy, not a bunch of mid-level functionaries who meet for bowling on Wednesday nights.
The ministry said later in a statement that Indian officials kept making unsubstantiated accusations against Pakistan for propaganda purposes to draw attention away from several insurgencies inside India.
They usually don't blame the Assam terrorists or the Nagas on the Paks. They often blame nasty actions originating in Bangla on the ISI, and usually they blame major infrastructure attacks on them.
The bombing of rush-hour commuter trains and stations in Mumbai killed 186 and wounded hundreds on July 11.
I'm not an Indian, and the Paks were the first suspects to pop into my mind, too.
The allegations leveled by Mumbai police against Pakistan's military spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba coincided with President Pervez Musharraf's return home after nearly three weeks abroad. "India has always chosen this path of pointing fingers at Pakistan without evidence," Tariq Azim Khan, Minister of State for Information, said. "If they have any evidence, they should provide us evidence and we will carry out our investigations."
If Pak took wasn't involved, and wanted to clear itself, it would be sending its own agents to find out who really dunnit. A few Perry Mason moments would shut the Indos up — assuming they were wrong.
A spokesman for Lashkar, one of the most feared militant groups fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, denied the organization's involvement.
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Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I believe it was Whitney Houston who once said "Pak is Wack!"
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 10/01/2006 3:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Ramping up the volume:
India to share Mumbai evidence
Pakistan fury over India's terror claim
Posted by: .com || 10/01/2006 5:01 Comments || Top||

#3  If ever there was a case where "silence is consent" applied.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/01/2006 5:49 Comments || Top||

#4  What exactly will India gain by sharing this evidence?

The Pak government has already admitted to the Sindh High Court that it has no operational control over the ISI.

All this does is expose Indian sources and methods to the Paks and helps them plan a better terrorist attack.

Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 8:56 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm guessing this charge will be met with the same response as were Danish cartoons and Papal speeches.

Posted by: john || 10/01/2006 9:23 Comments || Top||

#6  This of course is the same Pakistan whose ISI agents spread the rumor of the 4,000 Jews that didn't show up to work at the WTC on 9/11/01.

This is the same Pakwackland where a majority still believes that someone other than Muslim Arabs carried out the 9-11 attacks. And they have the nerve to demand proof from India. FU!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 10/01/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||



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