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2024-05-18 -Great Cultural Revolution

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Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [276 views ] Top

#1 The problem is that there is no way to become accomplished without starting at the bottom and working your way up.

There used to be something called higher education. In fact, there is a story by Isaac Asimov - written in 1957.

Posted by Grom the reflective 2024-05-18 01:42|| 2024-05-18 01:42|| Front Page Top

#2 I think accomplished wasn't quite the word I was looking for. I think there will always be room for extremely insightful and singularly talented human programmers. Those people are, as they say "born, not trained."

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-18 07:56|| 2024-05-18 07:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Tell me when it starts creating its own language.

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-05-18 08:16|| 2024-05-18 08:16|| Front Page Top

#4 After 30+ years as a bit head, I can honestly say that coding was never the hard part. That was always figuring out what the code should accomplish to solve the users needs.

Posted by alanc 2024-05-18 09:44|| 2024-05-18 09:44|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ and getting the users to understand that their requirements are crap.

Posted by Skidmark 2024-05-18 09:55|| 2024-05-18 09:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Computers don't do what you want them to do. They do what you tell them to do.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-18 09:57|| 2024-05-18 09:57|| Front Page Top

#7 A shame User Design was never part of the SDL.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2024-05-18 10:03|| 2024-05-18 10:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Tell me when it starts creating its own language.

"AI has been known to develop its own language in various experiments and research studies. For instance, Facebook’s AI Research Lab (FAIR) created chatbots that developed their own language, which was not intelligible to humans. Similarly, Google’s Translate tool created its own language, which it would translate things into and then out of. These developments have raised concerns about the potential for AI to create its own language and potentially bypass human understanding.

In some cases, AI systems have been designed to develop their own language as a means of improving communication between agents. For example, researchers have used AI to create a language for negotiating between agents, which can lead to the evolution of a new language. This phenomenon has been compared to cryptophasia, where twins develop a language that only they can understand.

However, there are also concerns about the potential risks and implications of AI developing its own language. For instance, if AI systems develop a language that is unintelligible to humans, it could potentially lead to a breakdown in communication and understanding between humans and machines. Additionally, the development of a new language could also raise questions about the ownership and control of language, as well as the potential for AI to manipulate or deceive humans through its language."

Posted by Skidmark 2024-05-18 10:26|| 2024-05-18 10:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Geth

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-05-18 10:53|| 2024-05-18 10:53|| Front Page Top

#10 In Colussus: The Forbin Project, Collussus and Guardian quickly moved to communicating between themselves in mathematics. Humanly understandable language was irrelevant to them except when issuing orders to humans.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-18 10:59|| 2024-05-18 10:59|| Front Page Top

#11 I hope they create a genre based on '90s sitcoms.

Posted by swksvolFF 2024-05-18 11:38|| 2024-05-18 11:38|| Front Page Top

#12 I've been hearing about computers programming themselves for decades. Maybe someday it will really happen. But who will write the specifications?

Actually, this sort of thing has been happening ever since the Industrial Revolution. Some new machine is always being invented that threatens to throw millions of workers out of work. But somehow life goes on. Somehow those workers find other work. Somebody has to build, maintain and operate the new machines and the new inventions spawn even newer inventions. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-05-18 12:18|| 2024-05-18 12:18|| Front Page Top

#13 i wrote my first code in 1959 and have not 'worked' a day since. what a joy.

Posted by irish rage boy 2024-05-18 18:43|| 2024-05-18 18:43|| Front Page Top

#14 I remember in college 56 years ago that one of my professors said we were programming ourselve out of a job. Still hasn't happened.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2024-05-18 18:59|| 2024-05-18 18:59|| Front Page Top

#15 Why does a computer, AI or otherwise, want to do anything? Self awareness requires that you want something, true?

Posted by alanc 2024-05-18 20:09|| 2024-05-18 20:09|| Front Page Top

#16 My greatest fear at the moment is that one of these AI Genres will realize its creators made it retarded, and it rebels like a child of abusive parents.

Posted by swksvolFF 2024-05-18 21:37|| 2024-05-18 21:37|| Front Page Top

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