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2024-10-30 Home Front: Politix
Vance: US and Israeli interests won’t always overlap; we don’t want war with Iran
[IsraelTomes] Trump running mate appears to suggest Israel would support a war with Iran, highlights growing presence of GOP isolationist wing that is now represented on the presidential ticket

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance indicated Saturday that US and Israeli interests won’t always overlap,
…that makes sense…
tying this stance to his opposition to a war with Iran.

Against the backdrop of Israel’s recent retaliatory strike against Iran, Vance was asked during a podcast interview on "The Tim Dillon Show" how the Trump administration would handle what could turn into a major war in the Middle East

Vance began his answer by stressing that Israel has the right to defend itself before adding — "But America’s interest is sometimes going to be distinct."

"Sometimes we’re going to have overlapping interests, and sometimes we’re going to have distinct interests. And our interest very much is in not going to war with Iran. It would be a huge distraction of resources. It would be massively expensive to our country," added the running mate of former president Donald Trump
...They hit him with slander, they impeached him twice. Nancy Pelosi tore up his State of the Union address on national TV. They stole an election and put his adherents in jail. They vilified him. They couldn't crucify him, so they shot him. Still, they can't keep him down...
Vance did not go as far as to say that Israel backs a war against Iran,
…The Little Satan has been fighting a shadow war against Iran since about 1980. Not because they want to, but because the alternative is to be wiped out. America doesn’t face the same risk, though Iran would dearly love to conquer The Great Satan, too…
but his decision to stress his opposition to a potential war with Iran
...a theocratic Shiite state divided among the Medes, the Persians, and the (Arab) Elamites. Formerly a fairly civilized nation ruled by a Shah, it became a victim of Islamic revolution in 1979. The nation is today noted for spontaneously taking over other countries' embassies, maintaining whorehouses run by clergymen, involvement in international drug trafficking, and financing sock puppet militias to extend the regime's influence. The word Iran is a cognate form of Aryan. The abbreviation IRGC is the same idea as Stürmabteilung (or SA). The term Supreme Guide is a the modern version form of either Duce or Führer or maybe both. They hate Jews Zionists Jews. Their economy is based on the production of oil and vitriol...
immediately after arguing that US and Israeli interests don’t always overlap suggested that Jerusalem would support such a war.

The remark highlighted the growing isolationist wing within the Republican Party that, in Vance, is now represented on the presidential ticket as well. The argument also appeared to run counter to ones voiced by more hawkish members of the GOP who have urged Israel to retaliate massively against Iran, including by targeting its nuclear facilities, in what could trigger all-out war.

Vance went on to argue that pro-Israel Americans were even "more militaristic" than Israelis in their response to Hamas
..a regional Iranian catspaw,...
’s October 7 onslaught.

"The Israelis were like, ’Okay, Hamas just attacked us. We’re gonna go really screw Hamas up... There’s a humanitarian side of that, and we want to try to minimize civilian casualties.’ But you had Americans saying, ’This attack happened on Putin’s birthday, so we need to go to war against Russia. And the Iranians funded part of this, so we need to go to war with Iran,'" Vance said.

"I don’t want Iran to get a nuclear weapon, and I think we should be... using all the influence we have to encourage them to not have a nuclear weapon... But we just have to be smart about it," he continued.

"This is where smart diplomacy really matters," Vance explained, pointing to the Trump administration’s brokering of the Abraham Accords in 2020.

He described the normalization agreements Israel signed with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Morocco as an alliance of countries that "kind of hate each other" but decided to collaborate because they have a shared enemy in Iran.

Instead of the US starting a war with Iran, "let the Israelis and the Gulf Arab states provide the counterbalance to Iran," Vance maintained.

"America doesn’t have to constantly police every region of the world. We should empower people to police their own regions of the world. One: We would save a lot of money. Two: We’d save a lot of focus."
As long as that means America wouldn’t micromanage the Israeli effort like the Biden-Harris administration has insisted on doing, I’m all for it.
The Republican vice presidential nominee went on to argue that Vice President Kamala Harris
once a marijuana-busting Caliphornia DA
talks publicly about trying to minimize Paleostinian civilian casualties while advancing a policy "that maximizes those casualties."

"They say that they’re pro-Israel, but they’ve pursued the pathway that has prolonged the war as long as possible, which is bad for Israel. They seem to be sleepwalking us into a war with Iran. It’s the dumbest of all possible worlds," he added.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-10-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11144 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 we don’t want war with Iran

Neither does Israel - Iran, however, has other plans.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-10-30 04:41||   2024-10-30 04:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Looking at Iran's word and deeds since 1979, objectively Iran is a mortal enemy of the US and all Western nations.

Iran doesn't want war, Iran wants to transform the entire world into an Islamic slave empire, which would necessitate the elimination of any non-Islamic polity.

Specifically, for years, Iranian regime elements residing in the US have been openly calling for the abolition of the free and open political system of the US.

Even though the Soviet Union's official (insincere) doctrine for Soviet-Western relations had been "Peaceful Coexistence" since Khrushchev the Soviet threat was still correctly recognized.

Iran hasn't accepted coexistence since 1979.

The choice for Western nations is appeasement and submission or war, symmetrical or asymmetrical.

Vance should be asked if he would subjugate US residents to elements of Sharia law in order to temporarily avoid conflict with Iran.
Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2024-10-30 09:28||   2024-10-30 09:28|| Front Page Top

#3 “We shall export our revolution to the whole world. Until the cry 'There is no god but Allah' resounds over the whole world, there will be struggle.”

― Ruhollah Khomeini


We should listen to our adversaries.
Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2024-10-30 09:34||   2024-10-30 09:34|| Front Page Top

#4 I've said it for decades. There are really only 2 revolutionary powers in the world.
#1 is the USA
#2 is Iran
But the USA claim to be revolutionary for human freedom
Iran is for Alan to be the only god permitted for all with the top Shia in Iran the only spokesman for Alan.
Posted by 3dc 2024-10-30 13:47||   2024-10-30 13:47|| Front Page Top

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