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2024-05-23 Europe

Germany Says It Will Arrest Netanyahu As Israeli Envoy Appeals To Berlin To Defy ICC

[MSN] Israel’s Ambassador to Berlin, Ron Prosor, was rebuffed by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s government on Wednesday after the envoy made a dramatic appeal on X, formerly Twitter, to the Federal government to reject the ICC’s legitimacy fully.

Scholz’s spokesman, Steffen Hebestreit, was asked on Wednesday if the German government would execute an ICC arrest order against Prime Minister Netanyahu for alleged war crimes during Swords of Iron.

Hebestreit said, "Of course. Yes, we abide by the law."

On Tuesday, before Hebestreit’s announcement, Prosor wrote on X in both German and English, “This is outrageous! The German 'Staatsräson' is now being put to the test—no ifs or buts. This contrasts with the weak statements we hear from some institutions and political actors. The public statement that Israel has the right to self-defense loses credibility if our hands are tied as soon as we defend ourselves.”

Staatsräson is the German word that refers to Germany's pledge to ensure Israel’s security is part of its national security and interests. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared during her 2008 Knesset speech that Israel is part of Germany’s raison d'etre—or state of being.

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#1 Where do the NAZIS plan to jail Netanyahu, Auschwitz-Birkenau?

Posted by Angealing+B.+Hayes4677 2024-05-23 01:38|| 2024-05-23 01:38|| Front Page Top

#2 George W. Bush can't travel in Europe for the same reasons. He'll be placed under arrest for war crimes.

Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2024-05-23 03:00|| 2024-05-23 03:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Karim Asad Ahmad Khan KC (born 30 March 1970) is a British lawyer specialising in international criminal law and international human rights law, who has served as Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court since 2021.

Posted by Huputle+Cherelet4131 2024-05-23 07:46|| 2024-05-23 07:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Dachau... Auschwitz is in Poland.

Posted by Glenmore 2024-05-23 08:43|| 2024-05-23 08:43|| Front Page Top

#5 So, having a diplomatic passport, protected by international law, is not protection from international law. Interesting.

Posted by ed in texas 2024-05-23 12:07|| 2024-05-23 12:07|| Front Page Top

#6 The ICC does not have universal jurisdiction. Rather, it can only exercise its jurisdiction in cases involving crimes under international law committed on the territory of or by a national of a state party.

Israel is not a state party to the ICC. However, Palestine declared its accession to the ICC Statute on January 2, 2015. Against the backdrop of Palestine's disputed statehood, the question of whether Palestine has thus become a state party to the Statute harbors considerable potential for discussion.

According to a decision by Pre-Trial Chamber I of the ICC in 2021, the accession is effective in view of Palestine's status as a "non-member observer state" of the United Nations and the so-called "all states" clause contained in Art. 125 para. 3 of the ICC Statute. Palestine is therefore considered a state for the purposes of the ICC Statute (and only for these purposes). This means that acts committed on Palestinian territory (Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem) are subject to the jurisdiction of the ICC, including those committed by nationals of the non-party state of Israel. The same applies to acts committed by Palestinians, including those committed on the territory of Israel, which is not a party to the treaty.

However, the decision of the Pre-Trial Chamber was only made by a 2:1 majority at the time. It is not binding. Accordingly, the question of Palestine's status as a state party may once again become important in further proceedings.

Posted by European Conservative 2024-05-23 12:43|| 2024-05-23 12:43|| Front Page Top

#7 The accusation that Netanyahu and Gallant are suspected of having committed a crime against humanity is very far-reaching. This offence refers to the targeting of an identifiable group or community with a discriminatory motivation, namely for "political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural or religious reasons, reasons of sex [...] or other reasons universally recognized as impermissible under international law [...]". The prosecutor claims the Palestinian civilian population is attacked on the basis of their status as Palestinians. Yet the prosecutor refrains from giving any reasons in this regard in his statement.

Short version: Ideological nonsense.

Posted by European Conservative 2024-05-23 12:47|| 2024-05-23 12:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks for the breakdown EC

Posted by DarthVader 2024-05-23 12:51|| 2024-05-23 12:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Or, it might be discovered that Karim shares certain tastes with his brother Imran

Posted by Grom the reflective 2024-05-23 13:05|| 2024-05-23 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 I might add: The ICC has no business with Israel because Israel is a democracy (the only one in the Middle East) with a functioning judiciary that would prosecute war crimes committed by Israelis if there were any. And of course countries must be given due time to do that, and certainly not in the middle of a war.

The ICC was meant to prosecute war crimes that are not prosecuted nationally. Later. Much later.

This is all nonsense. Of course the current German government won't say so. And I despise them for this cowardice.

So much easier to say: Oh, we just follow international law. The correct answer would be to leave the jurisdiction of the ICC because it's become an ideological tool. Or always has been.

Posted by European Conservative 2024-05-23 13:20|| 2024-05-23 13:20|| Front Page Top

#11 Answer is simple, declare the ICC a terrorist organization, kill off all the so called judges and prosecutors. MAKE IT PERSONAL. These twits need to learn real consequences for being minions of evil.

Posted by Silentbrick 2024-05-23 17:05|| 2024-05-23 17:05|| Front Page Top

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