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2020-12-19 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Moderna becomes 2nd COVID-19 vaccine approved for us in US

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. added a second COVID-19 vaccine to its arsenal Friday, boosting efforts to beat back an outbreak so dire that the nation is regularly recording more than 3,000 deaths a day.

Much-needed doses are set to arrive Monday after the Food and Drug Administration authorized an emergency rollout of the vaccine developed by Moderna Inc. and the National Institutes of Health.

The move marks the world’s first authorization for Moderna’s shots. The vaccine is very similar to one from Pfizer Inc. and Germany’s BioNTech that’s now being dispensed to millions of health care workers and nursing home residents as the biggest vaccination drive in U.S. history starts to ramp up.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-12-19 02:43|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 Moderna Designed a Covid-19 Vaccine in Just Two Days Thanks to mRNA Technology

The vaccine prototype was developed in January, before any Americans died. Why did it take 11 months and 300,000 lives for testing and approval?

Posted by Ulavirong Omeager2818 2020-12-19 03:33|| 2020-12-19 03:33|| Front Page Top

#2 ^Usually it takes several years. So, just hope it actually works - and doesn't have any unanticipated (due to lack of thorough testing) side effects.

Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2020-12-19 03:49|| 2020-12-19 03:49|| Front Page Top

#3 And I should think that with the importance and speed required to get a vaccine out that would normally take years, Big Pharma probably wanted assurances about liability protection.

Posted by Clem 2020-12-19 08:01|| 2020-12-19 08:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Why did it take 11 months and 300,000 lives for testing and approval?

Usually it takes 15-20 years — and most promising treatments are not good enough to survive the process. The deaths in the meantime were due to ignorance about the danger of leaving ventilator patients on their backs instead of turning them face down on their bellies, and the bien pensants shouting down treatments like hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin/zinc.

Big Pharma probably wanted assurances about liability protection.

They got them. The manufacturers cannot be sued for liability.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-12-19 10:00|| 2020-12-19 10:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Below is a graph showing the "normal vaccine timeline" and the Warp Speed timeline.

The vaccine is in the beginning of the distribution (mustard of graph). The 5 months shown to "create the vaccine" (dark blue) should only have been a month (beginning of March) to realize a vaccine is needed and that Moderna already created one in January. It seems to me that 4 months were lost futzing around.

Posted by Ulavirong Omeager2818 2020-12-19 11:09|| 2020-12-19 11:09|| Front Page Top

#6 So which strain does this work against? There are now five.

Posted by 49 Pan 2020-12-19 14:53|| 2020-12-19 14:53|| Front Page Top

#7 It seems to me that 4 months were lost futzing around.

Not lost all. The 4 months were August September October and...
NOVEMBER.

= Mission Accomplished

Posted by Unique Phaviper4943 2020-12-19 15:00|| 2020-12-19 15:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Keep testing. I'll wait.

Posted by Skunky Phinemp1649 2020-12-19 17:56|| 2020-12-19 17:56|| Front Page Top

#9 #6 I think it sensitizes the immune system to the spike protein, so it should work for all the variants, as well as the corona cold viruses
he said, hopefully

Posted by Bobby 2020-12-19 18:23|| 2020-12-19 18:23|| Front Page Top

#10 Epidemics, like bleeding episodes, always end. Somehow.

Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2020-12-19 19:08|| 2020-12-19 19:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Modern a I would trust more than that Pfizer one. Pfizer has made exactly ONE mRNA based vaccine, just the Covid one. Moderna has 10 mRNA already approved before they started on Covid-19. So they have a lot more experience developing and testing this kind of vaccine. Things like encapsulates, lipids, protein folding, and even the packaging, Moderna has tons more knowledge and experience. That’s why their vaccine can be stored at in a common freezer while Pfizer needs -94 special freezers to prevent denature of the proteins and lipids.

My doctor says he wants us to wait for Johnson and Johnson’s single dose vaccine, if we are not high risk, but if we are high risk then go with the Moderna. He reckons it will be equally effective, but safer.

Posted by Greater the Anonymous5721 2020-12-19 20:36|| 2020-12-19 20:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Water's fine?
You go first.

Posted by Spating Wholuting8732 2020-12-19 21:09|| 2020-12-19 21:09|| Front Page Top

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