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2019-10-17 The Grand Turk
US House backs resolution condemning Trump’s withdrawal from Syria
Congratulations, guys. Now you only need to persuade enough Republicans to make a veto-proof majority in the Senate, and then get them to overcome President Trump’s veto. What are the odds of success again?
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] The US House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday to condemn President Donald Trump
...Oh, noze! Not him!...
’s decision to withdraw US forces from northeastern Syria, clearing the way for The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the only place on the face of the earth that misses the Ottoman Empire...
’s offensive against the Kurds.

The vote was 354 to 60 for the resolution, as dozens of Trump’s fellow Republicans joined the majority Democrats in favor.

The vote underscored deep unhappiness in Congress over Trump’s action, which many politicians view as abandoning Kurdish fighters who had been fighting alongside Americans to defeat ISIS
...embracing their inner Islamic Brute...
They also angrily denounced the release from prison of ISIS fighters since Turkey’s offensive began a week ago.

"That was a betrayal of our partners. It was a gift to Russia, a gift to Iran, a gift to ISIS (Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
) and a gift to (Syrian President Bashar al-) Assad," said Representative Eliot Engel, the Democratic chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, who sponsored the resolution.

Separately on Wednesday, congressional and committee leaders from both parties were meeting with Trump at the White House to discuss his Syria policy.

The resolution backed by the House opposes Trump’s decision to remove the troops and calls on his administration to present a "clear and specific plan for the enduring defeat of ISIS."

It also calls on Ottoman Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan to immediately end the offensive, seeks continued US support for Syrian Kurdish communities through humanitarian support, and also calls on the United States to work to ensure that Turkey’s military acts with restraint.

A companion resolution, also backed by Democrats and Republicans, was introduced in the Republican-majority Senate on Tuesday, but has not yet been brought up for a vote.

Posted by Fred 2019-10-17 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [339 views ]  Top
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#1 I do not see them voting to bring the troops back into the region!
Posted by BernardZ 2019-10-17 06:38||   2019-10-17 06:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Congress: Impeach the Motherf---er!!!
Public: OK, let's see it.
Congress: Well, ah, not really... it's an open-ended impeachment inquiry aimed at (per Pelouse-y) "finding the truth," 's all...

Congress: Free the PKK rebels! Turkey DELENDA EST!!!
Public: OK, let's see your declaration of war.
Congress: Well, ah, not really... it's a, um, profile in courage, a statement of, y' know, moral outrage at this despicable deplorable, sufferin'-succotash perfidious platypus Orange Satan Mussolini. Donate Now!
Posted by Lex 2019-10-17 07:16||   2019-10-17 07:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Did they pass the AUMF at the same time? /rhet question
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-10-17 08:15||   2019-10-17 08:15|| Front Page Top

#4  Not long ago (2015), Dems were pushing Obama to remove troops from Iraq.

I don't recall seeing all the fuss then that you see now on Syria today.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-17 10:10||   2019-10-17 10:10|| Front Page Top

#5 Pass a Declaration of War, Congress, then it's the President's job to administer it. Otherwise he has no justification for sending/keeping personnel in Syria in the first place.
Posted by Glenmore 2019-10-17 14:25||   2019-10-17 14:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Maybe Trump should tweet that Obama sending troops into Syria without direct authorization from Congress was unconstitutional and worse than US bombing of Laos and Cambodia and is perilously close to a war crime. Just to see the reaction.
Posted by rjschwarz 2019-10-17 14:33||   2019-10-17 14:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Maybe Trump should carry the case directly to the American people such as FDR did in his Fireside Chats. Go on TV and lay out the entire Syria issue and why he made his decision. We're only talking about a small number of troops being pulled out. Someone here said it something like less than 50 troops. We have not left the Kurds down. We have trained, and provided arms and intelligence to the Kurds. I have heard some say these troops are also trip wire? I'm sure these troops will find relief in that. What happens if we have another Benghazi? I’m still looking for an explanation on Benghazi that isn’t lies and complete B.S.

Can Pelosi or Schumer or the Pubs who sided with the Dems make a cogent case for not pulling out?
Trump was elected by people who are tired of Washington games. They are tired of wars and tired of lies. They are tired of not being well-represented in DC. They are tired of crooked, elitist politicians who enrich themselves at the expense of the taxpayers…and then lie to cover up their wrong-doing. Trump was elected by ordinary Americans as a response to all this. The response to pulling out a small number of troops only highlights larger problems in Washington. We’d be better- served by focusing on and cleaning up our own problems such as the corruption and criminality in our government instead of focusing on regions that clearly hate us (as they have often expressed) and don’t serve our national purpose.

We were only supposed to be in Syria for 30 days. We have been there for a few years now. Someone here said that Trump should have forced Congress to declare a war in that region if they wanted to keep the troops there. When was the last time we declared a war? Wasn’t it WW II? If people are so hawkish on a war, declare it, wage it, and win it and come home. The country pays a huge price in these endless, aimless wars. Many people who benefit from such wars are not the same ones who fight the wars and pay the price of these wars.

Maybe we need a rededication to our Declaration of Independence.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-17 16:59||   2019-10-17 16:59|| Front Page Top

#8 If people are so hawkish on a war, declare it, wage it, and win it and come home. The country pays a huge price in these endless, aimless wars. Many people who benefit from such wars are not the same ones who fight the wars and pay the price of these wars

This.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-17 17:01||   2019-10-17 17:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Right now, our tendency is to pretend not to intervene, with less than sufficient force to win, for aims that are poorly if at all articulated and with little cost to the enemy.

If we intervene, it should be swiftly and with devastating force, and aimed at exacting a heavy and very painful price.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-17 17:04||   2019-10-17 17:04|| Front Page Top

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