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2019-10-14 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Kurdish WWII veterans: Trump wasn't born when we fought the Nazis
[RUDAW] ERBIL, Kurdistan Region ‐ Ahmad Mustafa Delzar may be frail nowadays, but his mind is sharper than ever as he approaches his 100th birthday. On Wednesday, when US President Donald Trump justified his Syria withdrawal by claiming the Kurds never helped the US in the Second World War, Delzar, a veteran of that very war, was outraged.

"Trump was not born then ‐ that is why he does not know that the Kurds participated in the war," Delzar told Rudaw’s Hiwa Jamal on Saturday.

Trump was accused of abandoning the Kurds of northern Syria, a critical ally in the war against the Islamic State (ISIS), when he greenlighted the ongoing Turkish offensive.

In an attempt to justify his withdrawal of US troops, seen as the guarantors against a Turkish invasion, Trump said: "They didn’t help us in the Second World War. They didn’t help us with Normandy."

Trump’s comments raised doubts about the reliability of the United States as a partner in the region, with many Kurdish politicians rethinking their long-held faith in the superpower as their protector.

Delzar, who was born in 1920 and is a well-known Kurdish poet, became a member of the Iraq Levies, a minority scout force established by the British during the First World War to control Iraq, in 1943.

"The levies were mainly Assyrians and Kurds and a smaller number of Arabs," Delzar told Rudaw. "I was the 8,000th Kurd who joined the levies during the Second World War. I joined the levies on February 28, 1943."

Delzar went through intense training at Habbaniyah airbase in western Baghdad and then transferred to Palestine via Syria in December 1944. Dezlar and a number of other Kurdish levies stayed on in Haifa in Palestine until the war ended.

"There were around 40 Kurds who participated on the northern Italy front and one of them was Karim Abdulwahid Haji Aziz," Delzar recalled. "Karim was a paratrooper and I remember he parachuted twice in Habaniyah."

The veteran, who spoke to Rudaw from his bed in Erbil, still wears a Kurdish hat known as klaw, with the word Kurdistan embroidered on it.

He’s not alone in speaking out against Trump’s false claims. Several families have come forward with photographs of their fathers and grandfathers proving they were on America’s side in World War Two.

"I heard Trump saying that the Kurds did not take part in the war. He is lying," 69-year-old Mam Fareq Sadeq Ahmad, originally from Kirkuk, told Rudaw, showing a photo of a young, clean-shaven man in green uniform.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-14 11:02|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [460 views ]  Top

#1 His service is certainly to be respected, but geopolitics has a way of morphing over sever or eight decades.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-14 11:09||   2019-10-14 11:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Reductio ad absurdum.

No one can say why, which Kurds, where, for how long to what end and with what measure of success we should align our foreign policy - and now the anti-Trumpers are quibbling about ... WWII?

Please go away.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-14 11:25||   2019-10-14 11:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Argumentum non sequitur
Posted by magpie 2019-10-14 11:57||   2019-10-14 11:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Ya think after 80 years they would figure out how to defend themselves. Blaming Trump, morons. The Serbs helped us in WWII, but we blasted them in 92 during the Balkans war. Did the Kurds go to save the Christians that were murdered in Syria?
Posted by 49 Pan 2019-10-14 12:39||   2019-10-14 12:39|| Front Page Top

#5 He wasn't born when the Russians fought the Nazis either. And were these Kurds fighting the Nazis because they were anti-Nazi or pro-Stalin?
Posted by Glenmore 2019-10-14 12:45||   2019-10-14 12:45|| Front Page Top

#6 We also fought the Nazis with Joe Stalin. Things change.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-10-14 13:13||   2019-10-14 13:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Delzar went through intense training at Habbaniyah airbase in western Baghdad and then transferred to Palestine via Syria in December 1944. Dezlar and a number of other Kurdish levies stayed on in Haifa in Palestine until the war ended.

British Mandate “Palestine” was not a battlefront until 1948. It was a safe place for fighting soldiers to recuperate.

Wikipedia's page on the Kurds has this on the subject:

World War II
During World War Two, the Kurds formed 10 companies in the Iraq Levies that the British had recruited in Iraq. Kurds supported the British in the defeating the pro-Nazi 1941 Iraqi coup d'état.[79] Twenty-five percent of the Iraq Levies' 1st Parachute Company was Kurdish. The Parachute Company was attached to the Royal Marine Commando and was active in Albania, Italy, Greece, and Cyprus.[80][81]

Kurds participated in the Soviet occupation of northern Iraq in 1941,[82] creating the Persian Corridor, a vital supply line for the USSR. This led to the short-lived formation of the Kurdish Republic of Mahabad.

Despite the fact they were a tiny minority in the Soviet Union, Kurds played a significant role in the Soviet war effort. On 1 October 1941, Samand Siabandov was awarded the honour Hero of the Soviet Union. Kurds served at Smolensk, Sevastopol, Leningrad, and Stalingrad. Kurds took part in the partisan movement behind German lines. Karaseva received both the Hero of the Soviet Union medal and the medal Partisan of the Fatherland War (First Degree) for organising partisans to fight against the Germans in Volhynia Oblast in Ukraine. Kurds took part in the advance into Hungary and the invasion of Japanese-held Manchuria.[83][84]
Posted by trailing wife 2019-10-14 13:18||   2019-10-14 13:18|| Front Page Top

#8 The invasion of Manchuria didn't happen until after the US defeated Japan. 9 August 1945 Manchuria invasion
August 6, 1945 Hiroshima Bombed
August 9 Nagasaki Bombed - time for the Soviets to loot Japanese Manchuria....
Posted by 3dc 2019-10-14 14:19||   2019-10-14 14:19|| Front Page Top

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