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2017-10-28 -Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, October 28th, 2017


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

This past week, in the rubric of giving government power it did not earn, we have low hanging fruit and tough to oppose views.

The first is a writer who should know better, but somehow doesn't. The second comes from a lawyer, who not only knows better, but ignores everything surrounding the debate on guns.

I have been reading about how the National Rifle Association's Wayne LaPierre not only did not oppose the Hughes Amendment banning the sale of machine guns in 1986, but also actively sought to get the law passed. I haven't read into the issue enough to make a judgement, but it is hard to see how LaPierre can survive being in the NRA.

How this applies to today is news that proposed legislation banning bump stocks is considered dead, for now. You'll recall the NRA had initially called for the ATF to implement the ban, which was essentially a dare. It was the ATF which approved the bump fire stock for use on semiautomatics in the first place, so a proposed rule change banning them would be a big problem for the agency.

The social media wars continue, albeit in a more civil manner. The banning bastards have lost, but they will be back when they smell more blood, like zombies.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mixed. Rifle ammunition prices were mixed.

Prices for used pistols were mixed. Prices for used rifles were mostly lower.

New Lows:

Virginia: .308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic): Del Ton DT10: $700

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limted, Silver Bear, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own Brand, CRN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: GT Distributors, Winchester, FMJ, Brass Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, RNFP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Extreme Reloading, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Fedarm, Own brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .13 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: +.04 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: American reloading, Own brand, TMJ, Aluminum Casing, Reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo Men, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: AmmoMen, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.02 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Red River Reloading, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: True Caliber, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Target Sports USA, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .60 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .53 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Winchester, Brass Casing, SP, .84 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Winchester, Brass Casing, SP, .82 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: +.09 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.50 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 100 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Sellier & Bellot, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.51 per round (From Last Week: -.18 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 5,000 rounds: Ammo Men, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $470 Last Week Avg: $472(-) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (11 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(150, 162): Ruger SR556: $600 ($625 (10 Weeks)), $300 (9 Weeks))
Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(420, 445): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (249, 3Q, 2017(+6))(170, 181): DPMS Oracle: $425 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(218, 224): American Tactical Imports: $425 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $400 (20 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(490, 482): DPMS: $450 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $820 Last Week Avg: $835(-) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (21 Weeks))
Arizona (49, 3Q, 2017(+6))(42, 44): DPMS Panther: $600 ($2,300 (20 Weeks), $500 (3 Weeks)))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(99, 97): Diamondback DB10: $900 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $675 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(44, 42): Armalite: $1,200 ($1,600 (51 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(47, 44): Del Ton DT10: $700 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $700 (CA: $750 (36 Weeks)))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(102, 98): DPMS: $700 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $500 Last Week Avg: $505(-) ($668 (3Q, 2016), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (34, 3Q, 2017(+3))(29, 30): CAI: $550 ($900 (20 Weeks), $400 (25 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(86, 91): Zastava NPAP: $450 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(57, 58): CAI: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(60, 61): IO: $500 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(120, 116): IO: $525 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $395 Last Week Avg: $370(+) ($495 (4Q, 2016), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(5, 6): Marlin 336: $450 ($500 (40 Weeks), $200 (25 Weeks))
Texas (33, 3Q, 2017)(27, 27): Winchester Ranger: $350 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (24 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(10, 12): Marlin: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (19, 3Q, 2017(+3))(12, 14): Winchester Ranger: $400 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(31, 30): Winchester Ranger: $425 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $485 Last Week Avg: $480(+) ($525 (3Q, 2016), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (134, 3Q, 2017(+5))(118, 118): Kimber 1911 Pro Carry II: $700 ($700 (24 Weeks)), $325 (10 Weeks))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+3))(260, 277): Taurus PT1911: $425 ($600 (4Q, 2014)), $300 (46 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(160, 156): Para Ordinance 1911 Expert: $400 ($600 (12 Weeks)), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (197, 3Q, 2017)(+2)(194, 179): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($775 (12 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(380, 371): Taurus: $450 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $295 Last Week Avg: $273(+) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (25 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(216, 224): Canik 55: $325 ($400 (31 Weeks), $200 (15 Weeks))
Texas (586, 3Q, 2017(+3))(563, 568): Ruger P95DC: $275 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(335, 340): Walther PPS: $325 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (37 Weeks))
Virginia (357, 3Q, 2017(+5))(357, 351): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(761, 748): Smith & Wesson: $250 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (25 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $298 Last Week Avg:$301(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(58, 60): Smith & Wesson: $280 ($500 (41 Weeks), $195 (21 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(131, 128): Smith & Wesson: $260 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $180 (4 Weeks)))
Pennsylvania (111, 3Q, 2017(+3))(111, 111): Walther PPS: $300 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (3Q, 2016))
Virginia (109, 3Q, 2017(+4))(102, 95): Walther PPX: $375 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (193, 3Q, 2017(+3))(182, 172): Ruger SR40: $275 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Texas)
Tikka T3x Laminate bolt-action chambered in .300 Winchester Short Magnum
Posted by badanov 2017-10-28 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [488 views ]  Top

#1 Tikka's are Finnish made. Very high quality rifles.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-10-28 00:40||   2017-10-28 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 AAC AR-15 .223/5.56 Complete Bolt Carrier Group: for Full Auto enthusiasts
Posted by Skidmark 2017-10-28 08:08||   2017-10-28 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Or Deadites.

Neat site badanov.
Posted by swksvolFF 2017-10-28 17:30||   2017-10-28 17:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Ah, Tikkas. I once took a chicken
With one, and it gave me a kickin'.
Yes, right through the Punjab!
The Rajah, old rumpswab,
Admired it, but stuck to his stickin'.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2017-10-28 20:48||   2017-10-28 20:48|| Front Page Top

#5 speaking of guns, and leftovers...

A daisy! Carnivorous flora
That catches your eye. An adorable
Plan meets Pandora.
Tip: Man in fedora
And shades. An unmasking. Deplorable.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2017-10-28 20:54||   2017-10-28 20:54|| Front Page Top

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