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2004-11-05 Europe

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Posted by Anonymous4724 2004-11-05 8:46:58 AM|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This is a good read. This guy Van Gogh was a likeable curmudgeon and an equal opportunity bigot of sorts. He may have deserved a good ass beating more than once but no one had the right to kill him.

On the other hand, that a person will kill for their religious zealotry in the year 2004 is not acceptable. Reasoning with this cult is impossable. We are left with what, having to kill them one by one? Put them all behind a fence? After 9/11 we can't ignore them any more that is certain. How do we respond to them without becoming them? This is not the same thing as Afghanistan or Iraq. This is downtown not out in BFA. Do we walk around ready to drop the hammer on them if they look cross eyed? (hard as hell to do where I live.)

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-11-05 10:11:02 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-11-05 10:11:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sock Puppet of Doom,

You got it! But the PC crowd is not stating the obvious: he insulted Jews and Christians and God knows who else but none of those recipients of his hatred killed him. It was a Muslim who did it and this act speaks volume for their lack of tolerance and their inability to understand freedom of speech or any other freedom, for that matter.

Posted by Anonymous4724 2004-11-05 11:14:35 AM|| 2004-11-05 11:14:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Spot on SPOD.

Posted by Howard Uk 2004-11-05 11:16:18 AM|| 2004-11-05 11:16:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 SPOD took the words right out of my, er, fingers.

No religion, other than islam, would encourage or condone such an act.

Freedom of speech, without fear of physical reprisal, is a foundation of life in the west -- Most non-middle eastern countries share that value to greater or lesser degrees. And, to our credit, it's mostly greater.

Not so in muslim countries.

A religion/culture like islam cannot exist in the west. It must adapt or be expelled. And I see no early signs of adaptation.

By the way.... Van Gogh didn't strike me as a "likeable" curmudgeon, SPOD. Which makes the whole freedom of speech thing even more poignant -- even detestable people have the right to say what they want without fear.

Posted by PlanetDan 2004-11-05 2:11:38 PM|| 2004-11-05 2:11:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Radical Islam will not co-exist peacefully with any other group that does not "submit" to them. That's almost their definition of Islam=submission="peace". That is the essence of the current conflict, both in the Netherlands and in the world. The other side of the conflict largely hasn't awakened to the true situation, although the cited article is a small step toward that awakening. Since Nov. 2, the MSM has been interpreting Bush's victory as a victory for evangelical Christianity. This view is a distortion. In the USA nominal Christians and nonbelievers alike are simply defining where they stand and acting on their basic beliefs concerning "all men are created equal", inalienable rights,and freedom of speech and religion, due to the worldwide Islamic supremacy movement. Freedom of speech means, among other things, tolerating scurrilous verbal attacks on what is held most dear without resorting to extortion or murder.

Posted by Ebbavith Angang9747 2004-11-05 7:41:29 PM|| 2004-11-05 7:41:29 PM|| Front Page Top

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