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2004-10-17 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Capt America 2004-10-17 11:45:49 PM|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Why the former "America's paper of record" is now just another tabloid.

Posted by RWV 2004-10-17 12:18:08 AM|| 2004-10-17 12:18:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I am utterly shocked by this turn of events. Utterly.

Posted by Ol_Dirty_American 2004-10-17 1:03:35 AM|| 2004-10-17 1:03:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Perfect example of "preaching to the choir."

When Bush wins decisively Nov. 2, the NYT readers will sit there stunned wondering how it happened, since no one they know voted for Bush.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-17 1:10:41 AM|| 2004-10-17 1:10:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 An endorsement from the New York Times is like a French kiss from your grandmother. I am sure Kerry will wear this bib with his own unique sense of honor.

Posted by badanov 2004-10-17 3:34:31 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-10-17 3:34:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I am so ~~not~~ suprised

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-10-17 3:42:55 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-10-17 3:42:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 That is fine if the NYT wishes to endorse a candidate. What is not fine is the way the Times has portrayed their news stories by supressing the real news and following an agenda which has not done the public any service at all. All the News that is fit to print has become all the news that favors their agenda. Time will tell the result of their actions (not to be confused with Time magazine either, another MSM disinformation source).
It actually has already started. Their siblings in the MSM CBS already have lost their credibility.
What is telling is how the latest ABC Nightline report has been received by the public. That interview was conducted with one purpose and that was to prop up Kerry for the electorate. Rather (that name is synonmous with bad reporting) than interview Vets who were there , ABC went to extraordinary lengths to go to Vietnam and interview Vietcong operatives. The public hasn't bought that story either. Their credibility is disappearing.
The self destruction of the MSM is in progress as we speak.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-10-17 8:47:25 AM|| 2004-10-17 8:47:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 You mean *sniff* they're not going to endorse Bush? I thought they'd *sniff* be so much more fair... *sob sob sob*

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-10-17 9:47:07 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-10-17 9:47:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 "[Kerry] strikes us, above all, as a man with a strong moral core."

I really do appreciate the NYT injecting a little levity into the proceedings.

Posted by Matt 2004-10-17 10:02:56 AM|| 2004-10-17 10:02:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "He has qualities that could be the basis for a great chief executive, not just a modest improvement on the incumbent."

These people are either stupid, or ignorant, or just plain evil-- or, more likely, all three.

Even if I were the Democrat I was 25 years ago, I would still be utterly flummoxed at the notion of my party nominating this obscure, unaccomplished nobody for the office of President. A "great" chief executive?? Please, that makes my head hurt: John Kerry would be the most timid, ineffectual, incompetent and indecisive President since Jimmy Carter-- and would very likely make Carter, in comparison, seem resolute, purposeful and dynamic.

God help us all-- Democrats and Republicans alike-- if this bozo wins.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-17 10:16:01 AM|| 2004-10-17 10:16:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Bill, what needs to be explained very clearly to all Americans is that ABC News, along with the Old Media, would rather propagate the words of communists than interview American war heroes and respected members of their community (which is what the SwiftVetsandPOWforTruth are).

Think about it. The word of a communist foreigner is worth more to the Old Media than the word of a decent American. Do you remember the Cold War?

Whether Bush or Kerry wins, this will turn into a civil war within 10-20 years. The extreme left and its supporters will go the way of the Islamofascists and their supporters. Both groups are witnessing the slow defeat of their evil ideology at the hands of political liberty and free-markets. It won't be pretty.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-10-17 10:35:15 AM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/] 2004-10-17 10:35:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I should add that I have been predicting a radical turn to violence by the Left since the early 90s (note the Marxist-Leninist doctrine that a *violent* revolution should take place; I've met people in Europe who hope it will start tomorrow, nope ok tomorrow then, nope ok tomorrow then...). Only eco-fascists have gone down that path so far (Gore's support for their ideology was a major marker).

My frustration is that I can't figure out how to neutralize them before they engage in widespread violence. I know how to defend myself and my loved ones, but I'd rather we didn't have to deal with either Islamofascist murderers or a mogrified Old New Left. That is, not in the homeland.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-10-17 10:42:37 AM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/] 2004-10-17 10:42:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Well, Pierre Salinger would've been more moved, more touched, and far more convinced by a Rent-a-Cong than a CMOH recipient, too. Glad the old multicultiphrogdicksmoker is finally fucking dead... And in the South of France no less - not Southern France, heh, where else?

Posted by .com 2004-10-17 10:46:34 AM|| 2004-10-17 10:46:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Pierre Salinger is dead???? When????

I never miss an opportunity to celebrate. NEVER. Where did I go wrong?

Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-17 10:52:48 AM|| 2004-10-17 10:52:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Belay that. Just saw tipper's post about Salinger's croaking.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-17 10:56:26 AM|| 2004-10-17 10:56:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 another fragrant belch from the Olde Gray Whore.

Posted by Frank G 2004-10-17 11:12:16 AM|| 2004-10-17 11:12:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 WHat happens if Kerry wins?

If it happens it will be by the narrowest of margins.

The Congress stays Republican.

Kerry has the economy collapse when he vetos tax cut extensions.

The situation in Iraq produces terror attacks when he prematurely pulls US troops out and the government there collapses.

The military starts losing toops - retention becomes a nightmare under Kerry.

The left pulls a takeover of the party - based on thier belief that thier left manipualtions liek MoveON were what won the election. They produce the most left-wing slate of legislators ever.

The Congress becomes even MORE Republicn in 2 years - as a backlash against the mistake of putting someone like Kerry in office.

In 4 years Kerry is run out of office on a rail, with Hillary Clinton's hopes for the presidency smashed forever by the landslide victory by President Taft (of Ohio) and Vice President Bill Owens (of Colorado).

And the Mainstream Media becomes more and more irrelevant and partisan - opening even more room for upstarts like Fox to usurp the influence these old-guard conglomerations have abandoned in their surge into partisanship.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-10-17 12:30:45 PM|| 2004-10-17 12:30:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 It will be a 4 year self sentence for the nation, OldSpook. And we will have alot of casualties and some semi-infinite catching up to do.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-10-17 2:07:20 PM|| 2004-10-17 2:07:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 "WHat happens if Kerry wins?"

The world will know that the American people have lost their nerve, that they are tired of fighting and tired of being disliked, and have succumbed to the need for a "group hug".

The inevitable consequences-- all of them violent beyond our wildest nightmares-- will quickly ensue all around the world.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-17 2:18:36 PM|| 2004-10-17 2:18:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 #10 Kalle (kafir forever) - Unfortunately, you're probably right.

Luckily we're the ones with the most guns.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-17 5:29:18 PM|| 2004-10-17 5:29:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 OS -
RE your prediction for '08: You don't have a time machine there, do you?...

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-10-17 5:46:46 PM|| 2004-10-17 5:46:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Marriage official? Sorry, NYT, but Kerry "married up" and is no longer available. Besides, you've been screwing Bush daily for years -- you're no virgin. Best you can get is a civil union with the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Posted by Tom 2004-10-17 6:30:34 PM|| 2004-10-17 6:30:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Makes sense - they've been endorsing him in all their 'news' stories for the past six months.

Posted by A Jackson 2004-10-17 9:17:03 PM|| 2004-10-17 9:17:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 OMG, Old Spook, pleasepleaseplease not Taft! Guiliani and Condi Rice by preference, maybe with backing by Rumsfeld as SecState, but Taft is not the man we to fill the gaping need at that point.

Posted by trailing wife 2004-10-18 12:31:49 AM|| 2004-10-18 12:31:49 AM|| Front Page Top

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