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2010-07-06 The Grand Turk
Turkey to cut ties with Israel if no apology
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Posted by Fred 2010-07-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top
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#1 I think Turkey should get the Fuck out of NATO!
Posted by 3dc 2010-07-06 00:44||   2010-07-06 00:44|| Front Page Top

#2 They still owe the US people and military an apology for NOT LETTING the 4th ID transit their shitty little country!
Posted by 3dc 2010-07-06 00:45||   2010-07-06 00:45|| Front Page Top

#3 The timing of such things is critical. I'm sure they'll want to take delivery of the Israeli Heron UAVs they've ordered before totally rupturing ties.
Posted by lotp 2010-07-06 05:39||   2010-07-06 05:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Israel needs to put a programmed and timed bug in the Heron before releasing them to Turkey.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2010-07-06 06:28||   2010-07-06 06:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Make one wonder how frisky they will be after receiving F-35s.
Posted by ed 2010-07-06 07:05||   2010-07-06 07:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Kick Turkey out of NATO. Bring Russia in. Hug the bear and move the West's defense lines north and eastward. We could put missiles on Iran's doorstep and play the Russia card against China while we're at it.

Given Europe's bankruptcy (even Britain's slashing military spending now) and Turkey's defection, I'm not sure we have any choice. NATO in its current form is a dead letter. Time to move it eastward-- all the way to Vladivostok.
Posted by lex 2010-07-06 08:48||   2010-07-06 08:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Lex, pardon moi, but let's wait until Russia becomes a real democracy, not a FSB mob run dictatorship masquerading as a "managed democracy".
Posted by ed 2010-07-06 09:03||   2010-07-06 09:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Neither Spain under Franco nor Portugal under Salazar nor Greece under the generals was a real democracy, and yet all of them were stalwart and useful NATO allies.

We're running out of options. NATO has just lost its 2nd largest military power. The financial crisis will force us -- Barry or no Barry, regardless who's in the White House-- to cut back our military commitments, as the UK is now doing. We don't have any choice but to find allies who can and will do more, and shoulder more of the burden. India and Russia are now far more important to this nation than any west European ally.
Posted by lex 2010-07-06 09:15||   2010-07-06 09:15|| Front Page Top

#9 None of them considered the NATO and the West the enemy nor propagandized their citizens to look upon us as the enemy (Though I sometimes wonder about the Greeks). Russians still believe they are the bully in the schoolyard and should run the place. At best you will have a Russia subverting NATO from the inside while trying to peel off their former thralls. A malevolent FSB run dictatorship (even if the fist is hidden in a velvet glove) will cause chaos in a consensus run NATO. It's hard enough to get anything done with just the French (who were only recently allowed to return to the decision making body).

Let the Russians decide what type of society they will first become. And some of NATO's newest Balkan members should not have been let in the last expansion round.
Posted by ed 2010-07-06 09:45||   2010-07-06 09:45|| Front Page Top

#10 I think it would be smarter to get the US out of NATO.

The problem with NATO is all the allies expect the US to do the heavy lifting. Leaving NATO for a while might fix that.
Posted by flash91 2010-07-06 11:45||   2010-07-06 11:45|| Front Page Top

#11 The timing of such things is critical. I'm sure they'll want to take delivery of the Israeli Heron UAVs they've ordered before totally rupturing ties

Ship 'em with instruction manuals in Hebrew and no spare parts.
Posted by DMFD 2010-07-06 12:02||   2010-07-06 12:02|| Front Page Top

#12 ISRAEL R UAV's; after all.
Posted by Asymmetrical Triangulation 2010-07-06 23:11||   2010-07-06 23:11|| Front Page Top

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