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2010-03-04 Britain
London-based cleric issues anti-terror fatwa
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Posted by Fred 2010-03-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [21 views ]  Top
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#1 Well, that should be it then, we can all sleep safely in our beds.
Posted by Dave UK 2010-03-04 04:47||   2010-03-04 04:47|| Front Page Top

#2 as it will be one of the few available in English and online.

I will be impressed when he posts the same in Arabic.
Posted by JFM  2010-03-04 05:11||   2010-03-04 05:11|| Front Page Top

#3 I will be impressed when he posts the same in Arabic.

I'd think that, given Mr. Rahir-ul-Qadri's audience, English and Urdu are probably more appropriate, JFM. Very few of them will know more Arabic than necessary to recite the prayers and a few common verses of the Koran and Hadiths... which none of them will understand anyway.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-03-04 08:11||   2010-03-04 08:11|| Front Page Top

#4 The Minhaj-ul-Quran (means 'path of the Quran' in Urdu) have already published this in Urdu (probably they are working on an arabic version now). They are in many countries. The fellow who issued the Fatwa is a Sufi but claims followers in all the sects. He also claims fluency in a half dozen languages.

They have a lot of money (from where who knows) and have a University in Pakistan, a few magazines and have various other endeavors going on.

The crux of the argument here is that without a umma-wide authority for specific jihad action, personal jihad is un islamic.

Let's see what happens with this. The anti Terrorism Fatwa will of course be attacked, the sources used in the Fatwa will be challenged, etc (or it might simply be ignored or the followers of MT ul-Qadri might be beaten up in lieu of scholarly argument). This (a scholarly challenge within the Islamic world view) is needed (actually it was needed fourteen hundred years ago).
Posted by lord garth 2010-03-04 08:20||   2010-03-04 08:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Lord Garth, they don't look to be but do you know if they are Ahmedists?

Posted by JFM  2010-03-04 08:31||   2010-03-04 08:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Wiki sez Qadri is Logical Sunni Hanafi Modern

And as Garth says, he will be challenged with islamic religious text and won't be able to adequately respond in kind.
Posted by ed 2010-03-04 08:51||   2010-03-04 08:51|| Front Page Top

#7 JFM,

The Ahmadiya are another sect (nominally Sunni) that is generally non violent. They believe the 'no compulsion in religion' verse in the Koran (2:256) was not abrogated by the various jihad verses except for the conquests (in Mohammud's time and shortly after) in the Arabian peninsula. They are thriving in India but elsewhere (especially Pakistan) they are persecuted (and frequently robbed and murdered)by other Moslems.
Posted by lord garth 2010-03-04 10:39||   2010-03-04 10:39|| Front Page Top

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