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2009-11-14 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli forces open fire on Palestinians in WB
[Iran Press TV Latest] Israeli forces have opened fire on Palestinian protesters in the West Bank village of Naalin, leaving two of them wounded.

Palestinians demonstrating against the Israeli separation wall, said Israeli forces resorted to force and used rifle fire against them during the rally on Friday, Yent reported.

The Israeli military also confirmed the use of Ruger rifles which has been deemed by military prosecutors as live fire.

Earlier this year, the rights group B'tselem appealed to the military prosecutor with a demand to ban the rifles.

Judge Advocate General Avi Mandelblit said in his response to the appeal that "the guidelines for use of this ammunition (Ruger rifles) are severe and parallel to those for the use of live ammunition."

Israeli forces had shot and killed a Palestinian and wounded four others during weekly demonstrations in June, reportedly using the rifles.
Posted by Fred 2009-11-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 Ruger making something I hadn't heard about?
Posted by tipover 2009-11-14 01:25||   2009-11-14 01:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Good question, I wondered the same thing. How is a Ruger different from a Winchester, a Galil, or any other make of rifle? Ruger makes plenty of pistols too. And as far as I know, they all qualify as "live fire" weapons.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-11-14 02:41||   2009-11-14 02:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Pellet guns?

I have the same questions as SM & tipover.
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2009-11-14 08:42||   2009-11-14 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Presumably they're calling ammuntion "Ruger rifles". Some sort of rubber bullet probably.
Posted by gromky 2009-11-14 11:52||   2009-11-14 11:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Ruger makes high end .177 and .22 cal BB/pellet air rifles. It will leave a good size welt over clothes and depending on ammo type and a head shot, can cause serious damage.
Posted by ed 2009-11-14 12:10||   2009-11-14 12:10|| Front Page Top

#6 My Grandmother had a Benjamin .22 pellet rifle, Mainly for Squirrels eating her Pecans, didn't use a disposable CO2 Cylinder, you pumped it up with an under-barrel built in pump, ten pumps and it was almost as powerful as a 22 short, punched clear through tin cans (NOTE) real steel, not aluminum, and would punch through steel barn siding (Once, got a spanking)
Not a toy.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-11-14 12:32||   2009-11-14 12:32|| Front Page Top

#7 A boy's not worth his salt if he doesn't do something to get himself spanked once in a while.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2009-11-14 13:09||   2009-11-14 13:09|| Front Page Top

#8 My younger son pumps his bb gun up 50 times and shoots squirrels in the head. The damage is like a 22 short. the squirrels don't hang around much on our property any more.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-11-14 15:57||   2009-11-14 15:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Hey Jim, I think my dad had that same model of Benjamin air rifle. That thing could be deadly! I was always afraid to give it more than 5 pumps. I kept rabbits out of our garden with it. Very effective.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-11-14 16:34||   2009-11-14 16:34|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe the Chinese make a copy of the Benjamin air rifle and use it in marksmanship training (or used to in the 80's). The ballistics compare favorably to a 22 short. my brother in law has one and it sure takes care of the squirrels that try to rob his bird feeders.
Posted by abu do you love ">abu do you love  2009-11-14 18:15||   2009-11-14 18:15|| Front Page Top

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