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2006-09-23 Afghanistan
Perv and I know Mullah Omar is in Pakistan: Karzai
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Posted by Fred 2006-09-23 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [854 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Nice summary, Fred. Hopefully the folks at CIA, DIA, etc., are stealing it for their weekly's.
Posted by PBMcL 2006-09-23 00:29||   2006-09-23 00:29|| Front Page Top

#2 "a crunchy outer coating of decoys and sympathizers to be stripped away before we get to the chewy center of the Islamic high command"

Mmmmmmm ... crunchy decoys and sympathizers. Ooh, ooh, and a chewy center of Islamic high command ... argle bargle argle. Marge, I'm going to the store!!!
Posted by Homer 2006-09-23 00:41||   2006-09-23 00:41|| Front Page Top

#3 A very good summation. We've known alot of dirt on Pakland for many years. I don't know all the motivations as to why we haven't asskicked them yet, but, (1) we needed a local base to get a foothold in Afghanistan..when we'd been far better off bombing Pakis, (2) we didn't know as much as we needed to about their nukes. Recall that Powell, et al, went right over there and demanded to be shown where the stockpile was located. I'm sure we twisted Pervert's arm pretty tight to make him execute his 180 turn, knowing full well what a lying, cheating bastard he was/is. I think Perv's usefulness is nearing an end. It's just that we dread the next asswipe, who may be worse. Still, it's about time to yank on the Paki chain. BIGTIME.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-09-23 01:31||   2006-09-23 01:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Recall that Powell, et al, went right over there and demanded to be shown where the stockpile was located.

Hadn't heard about this before. It's one of the few things that connects the dots to the threat of us bombing them back to the stone age. If we truly do know where their nuclear weapons are (aside from satellite or humint intelligence), then this is a huge strategic plus for us. It also leaves Pakistan wholly vulnerable to us, but I doubt I'll be losing any sleep over that.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-09-23 02:33||   2006-09-23 02:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Wow, great commentary, Fred, I agree completely. Karzai is getting hosed by his good friend Perv(ert).

Anyone who uses a White House press conference to pitch a book is an opportunist and a cheap hackster.
Posted by Grolurt Hupising1286 2006-09-23 07:34||   2006-09-23 07:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Fred -- Would you consider expanding those comments into a book? We need it. It should be published simultaneously in the U.S. and India.
Posted by Pagan Infidel 2006-09-23 11:08||   2006-09-23 11:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Thanks for the layout Fred.


Hypothetical, If the three Queens of Terrorism [Perv-Land, Sod-Land A$$-Land] were decapped tomorrow naturally a power vacuum would result.

Sorta of a dilemma for us in the the West as the radical branches of Sunni & Shi'a "spirit" seems to be alive and robust amongst the Islamic flock. Who or what would fill the power vacuum in Islamabad for instance, India? USA? Afghanistan?

Perhaps the one of the best strategies we can exploit can be found within the dilemma itself.

Nurture the existing feuds between the many schisms within the radical elements of Islam, Deobandi vs Wahhabi vs radical Shia Muslim theocracy etc. so that they spend themselves attriting each other over the next few decades.

Posted by RD 2006-09-23 13:58||   2006-09-23 13:58|| Front Page Top

#8 One of Pakistan's biggest problems is that India has a HUGE army, air force, and navy - much larger, much better equipped, and much better trained. The only restraint upon India is that Pak has nukes. India doesn't want to lose Mumbai, Delhi, or any other major city. If we see India buying large quantities of PAC-3 missiles, we'll know the gloves are coming off.

One thing Fred didn't mention is the constant irritation in Bangladesh. This is essentially a "second front" in Pakistan's war against India. The current border war is an attempt to grab India's attention and direct it away from the ISI's involvement in the Mumbai bombing. I don't think it's working.

In any direct conflict between India and Pakistan, Pakistan loses. With US and NATO forces in Afghanistan and a hostile regime in Iran, Pakistan has nowhere to run.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-09-23 14:16||]">[]  2006-09-23 14:16|| Front Page Top

#9 I thought Patriots/ABM were part of the latest deal with India?
Posted by Frank G 2006-09-23 14:59||   2006-09-23 14:59|| Front Page Top

#10 Damn, best ever Fredmarks. Likely needs to be classified.
Posted by 6 2006-09-23 16:38||   2006-09-23 16:38|| Front Page Top

#11 the Islamic high command, which is not located in Pakistan, but in Soddy Arabia, possibly in Riyadh but more likely in Asir.

If you would be good enough to explain, Fred? Thank you!
Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-23 16:43||   2006-09-23 16:43|| Front Page Top

#12 tw, this old article from Debkafile sheds some light on Asir

Bin Laden Is Back in Saudi Arabia - Is Working Closely with Baghdad
October 19, 2002, 1:58 PM (GMT+02:00)

The Al Murrah, renowned as first rate field scouts, are among the fiercest elements of the extremist Muslim Wahabi sect, Saudi Arabia’s state religion, and number some of Bin Laden’s most fervent followers. Without friends in the Al Murrah, this empty wasteland is impassable and uninhabitable.

The second bin Laden sighting took place in the Najran, a region lying across the frontier between the south Saudi province of Asir and Yemen. Here, he was observed on Saudi Bani Yam Saudi tribal land opposite Oman on the fringes of the Empty Quarter. The Bani Yam are close allies of the neighboring Yemeni tribes of the Hadhramauth, the Saudi-born terrorist’s ancestral homeland.

In the Najran, Bin Laden is not only within reach of his Yemeni friends and kinsmen, but in a position to control and deploy the 700 al Qaeda fighters who escaped Afghanistan at the end of 2001 and early 2002 and set up base in the Asir province.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-09-23 16:57||   2006-09-23 16:57|| Front Page Top

Posted by john 2006-09-23 17:25||   2006-09-23 17:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Thank you, Zenster. That helps a great deal. :-)
Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-23 17:49||   2006-09-23 17:49|| Front Page Top

#15 You are most welcome. It's always a pleasure to assist one so erudite as yourself, tw.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-09-23 18:36||   2006-09-23 18:36|| Front Page Top

#16 Well, I've read some stuff anyway, Zenster dear. And much of it I had the pleasure of learning here. It's called Rantburg U for good reason.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-23 18:53||   2006-09-23 18:53|| Front Page Top

#17 We'll know the truth soon, Perv has finished his book!

PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF: I would like to -- I am launching my book on the 25th, and I am honor-bound to Simon and Schuster not to comment on the book before that day. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: In other words, buy the book, is what he's saying. (Laughter.)
Posted by SwissTex 2006-09-23 20:01||   2006-09-23 20:01|| Front Page Top

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