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Guantanamo Log Details Saudi's Torture
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Posted by Fred 2005-06-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [13 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 What is this shit?
Posted by someone 2005-06-13 00:01||   2005-06-13 00:01|| Front Page Top

#2 As far as I'm concerned, he should be dead.
You'll get no argument from me in that regard. What's the point of warehousing these folks? Just kill jihadists, forget about interrogations and giving them 3 square meals a day courtesy of the US taxpayer. How much intel do we get for the most part, as opposed to bad publicity and high maintenance costs? And by bad publicity costing us, I don't mean with the ACLU or the US Law Society. I mean with our erstwhile Muslim dominated countries, like Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, etc. I think those countries are helpful for the most part, but when our own traitorous MSM (eg. Izakoff) focus on Gitmo "abuses" it makes life difficult for folks like Mushareff to stay on board. Gitmo is more trouble than it's worth IMO.
Posted by Thotch Glesing2372 2005-06-13 00:34||   2005-06-13 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Fred's in rare form tonight.
Posted by badanov 2005-06-13 00:43|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2005-06-13 00:43|| Front Page Top

#4 This treatment sounds like a normal Saturday in 'Frisco.
Posted by badanov 2005-06-13 00:46|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2005-06-13 00:46|| Front Page Top

#5 nise fred. but itn wurse then yoo thawt. see this?:

CHRISTINA AGUILERA MUSIC USED AS TORTURE IN GITMO
Posted by muck4doo 2005-06-13 00:56|| http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]">[http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2005-06-13 00:56|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm a troll now? Every day brings a new surprise. Guess my three years here are done.
Posted by someone 2005-06-13 03:49||   2005-06-13 03:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Whoa, hold on, someone - don't bail - your comment was obviously misunderstood.

Eds - You pulled the trigger on a Good Guy!
Posted by .com 2005-06-13 09:35||   2005-06-13 09:35|| Front Page Top

#8 My bad. The sink trap is clogged right now; hang on whilst I call a plumber ...
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2005-06-13 09:42||   2005-06-13 09:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Fixed now...
Posted by Fred 2005-06-13 10:05||   2005-06-13 10:05|| Front Page Top

#10 This is the sort of nonsensical bullshit you put up with from lying Jihadi's when you let those miserable pieces of shit walk out of there alive.
Of course all self hating Americans, the MSM, the dhimmi's and Euro's will continue to buy this horeshit lock, stock and barrel, undermining the war effort.
Solve the problem by shooting these scumbags the moment intellegence believes they've been tapped for all they know.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-06-13 10:07||   2005-06-13 10:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Secret logs obtained by Time magazine? Oooookay....
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-13 10:08||   2005-06-13 10:08|| Front Page Top

#12 You should see what Lileks did to this article:

And at one point the reader might assume that if something really bad had happened, we might have read about it by now. I know a little bit about modern journalism, and we tend to emphasis the splintery plunger up the butt over the mocking puppet show. In any case, this detail makes you almost want to weep in frustration; domestic politicians are posturing for the camera, huffing about then horrors of Gitmo, insisting that the rest of the world won’t forgive us until we close the joint down and pave it. Over what? A Punch and Judy show? If we gang-mimed the guy and had 17 men in striped shirts with white makeup pantomime falling out of a burning skyscraper, would the critics demand we not only let the guy go but pay him a per diem for his troubles? I’ve read the story twice, and I keep wondering if I missed the part where the suspected 20th hijacker spits teeth into a chamberpot rimming with own bloody urine while massaging the welts the jumper cables left on his groinal division. I mean, I take all that for granted, because our soldiers are all killbot brutes - except for the lower-class ones who got drafted against their will and can only hope Bruce Springsteen sings a monotonal account of their disaffection.

Puppet shows and secret code / I don’t know who to trust / I’m the metaphorical twin of old Tom Joad / inasmuch as we both dealt with dust / his was the kind that got in your eyes / mine gets in your gun / but they both get down deep in your soul / whaddya mean, sing “Born to Run”?

He is taken to a new interrogation booth, which is decorated with pictures of 9/11 victims, American flags and red lights. He has to stand for the playing of the U.S. national anthem.

Okay, this is torture. But only if you’re interrogating a poster on the Democratic Underground.
Posted by Mike 2005-06-13 10:18||   2005-06-13 10:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Oh my God! Straddled by a female soldier? Last time that happened to me (weeping) I had to marry that soldier (tears flowing). Like me that poor bastard probably never saw it coming.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2005-06-13 10:30||   2005-06-13 10:30|| Front Page Top

#14 That asshole is lucky I wasnt doing the interrogation. He'd be wearing a colostomy bag and breathing with the aid of a machine, however we would have alot more info from him. If giving him IV fluids because he wouldnt eat and having a woman straddle him is the worst that they did to him I am ashamed of the army.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-06-13 10:38||   2005-06-13 10:38|| Front Page Top

#15 â€œInvasion of Space by a Female” ? I think I saw that on the Sci-Fi channel...and it DID make me want to confess to all sorts of crimes. So if they forced this poor bastard to watch it...repeatedly, then yeah, that's torture.

I could be confusing it with "Barbarella" though.
Posted by Justrand 2005-06-13 10:41||   2005-06-13 10:41|| Front Page Top

#16 I'd favor a one-word solution for this butt-nugget:

Rendition.

See how he likes it.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-06-13 10:56||   2005-06-13 10:56|| Front Page Top

#17 

An instrument of torture to offend all Muslim sensibilities...

Her mother must be so proud...


Posted by BigEd 2005-06-13 11:19||   2005-06-13 11:19|| Front Page Top

#18 I've got a one-sound solution:

BANG!
Posted by Fred 2005-06-13 11:23||   2005-06-13 11:23|| Front Page Top

#19 â€œInvasion of Space by a Female” ? I think I saw that on the Sci-Fi channel...

Naah, it was on the Lifetime Channel ...
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2005-06-13 12:13||   2005-06-13 12:13|| Front Page Top

#20 This leaves me very disappointed with Rumsfeld. I was thinking more along the lines of shoving a double-barreled shotgun in Al-Qahtani's mouth and playing Gitmo roulette until the game was over by default.
Posted by Tom 2005-06-13 13:09||   2005-06-13 13:09|| Front Page Top

#21 We should allow Al-Qahtani to fulfill his destiny and desire. Namely, being aboard an airplane as it crashes into a building.

So the next time we locate a bad-guy hangout in Iraq we strap Al-Qahtani unto a drone and fast-track him to virginville. Works for me, and him too I'm sure.
Posted by Justrand 2005-06-13 13:18||   2005-06-13 13:18|| Front Page Top

#22 A double barreled shot-gun? Infidel Tom shows an unexpected merciful-side.
Posted by Farmers General 2005-06-13 14:48||   2005-06-13 14:48|| Front Page Top

#23 I am now convinced more than ever that journalists at Time, Newsweek, NYT, WaPo, LAT, etc. are idiots. If they think that this kind of story based on this interrogation log is going to make us all run to the UN and ask forgiveness or worse rescind our votes and have Kerry take over they are nuts. What it does is make it more apparent that ever that we are not doing ENOUGH tough stuff to get these murdering sobs to cough up the goods (as Cagney would say). But then it also wouldn't suprise me that Time wrote this story for their Internationale readers and not us moronic, rightwing, rednecks here in Amerika!
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2005-06-13 15:04||   2005-06-13 15:04|| Front Page Top

#24 I am now convinced more than ever that journalists at Time, Newsweek, NYT, WaPo, LAT, etc. are idiots.

You're just now convinced of this?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-06-13 16:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-06-13 16:01|| Front Page Top

#25 just out of curiosity... has anyone heard of this method?
wheeler-serotonin

not that I'm against the medieval approach, but wringing him (completely) dry first is the priority, right?
Posted by Uniger Anginesh2724 2005-06-13 18:05||   2005-06-13 18:05|| Front Page Top

#26 No - Thx, UA!

Hmmm. I'd always thought that chocolate contained serotonin... Time for some noodling around, lol!

Life is the search for endorphins...
Posted by .com 2005-06-13 18:16||   2005-06-13 18:16|| Front Page Top

#27 Wheeler-sertonin?

Don't know. AB's trapped in some cathouse so I'll wait for the answer.
Posted by Shipman 2005-06-13 19:06||   2005-06-13 19:06|| Front Page Top

#28 Personally I prefer The Pear.

Why not? No matter what we do the MSM will it horrible torture anyway so why not go for broke?

(P.S. Kidding -- I wouldnt wish the Pear on anyone.... well ok... perhaps Al-Zak and OBL...)
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-06-13 19:28||   2005-06-13 19:28|| Front Page Top

#29 I'm OK on all of it but the Christina Aguilera music. A civilized nation must have some limits.
Posted by Formerly Dan 2005-06-13 19:40||   2005-06-13 19:40|| Front Page Top

#30 The control of seratonin uptake works fairly well in theory. Its the basis for several alleged "non-violent/non-harmful" interrogation adjuncts.

As for it being used in Gitmo for "behavior modification"? I would not be at liberty to comment even if I did know.

There is "need to know", but then there are some things you simply dont want to know, at least until after some others know - and well after the fact.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-06-13 20:38||   2005-06-13 20:38|| Front Page Top

#31 Spook knows! Spook knows!
Posted by Bobby 2005-06-13 21:05||   2005-06-13 21:05|| Front Page Top

#32 As far as I'm concerned, he should be dead.

They should all be dead.
Posted by WITT 2005-06-13 21:31||   2005-06-13 21:31|| Front Page Top

#33 Of course Old Spook can't comment. He's much to dainty. (Would you like some decaffinated tea (it's too late for the regular stuff) to go with that belly laugh, OS dear?)
Posted by trailing wife 2005-06-13 22:17||   2005-06-13 22:17|| Front Page Top

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Posted by someone 2005-06-13 00:01||   2005-06-13 00:01|| Front Page Top

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