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2004-06-16 Israel-Palestine

EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT HOSNI MUBARAK DEAD???

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Posted by Dutchgeek 2004-06-16 11:02|| || Front Page|| [11137 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Does this mean we can stop sending ~~huge bribes~~ the $2 billion in annual foreign aid to ~~him~~ Egypt?

Posted by Raj 2004-06-16 12:53:19 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-06-16 12:53:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 If true, things'll be interesting for the next month or so. I'm not sure Junior's in position to assume the Seat of All Power...

Posted by Fred 2004-06-16 12:55:28 PM|| 2004-06-16 12:55:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 this is obviously the start on the much needed regional enema that has been a long time coming.
I feel the region is in for a lot more pain before things are going to get better.
God willing the "good" arabs will be left stand in the end.
Pass the popcorn and let the games begin !!!

Posted by Anonymous5075 2004-06-16 1:08:29 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:08:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 This article is interesting apropos the succession scenarios.

Posted by someone 2004-06-16 1:09:30 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:09:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Sung to WALK LIKE AN EGYPTIAN
Sung by Kim Carnes in the 1980s

Old Cairo sits by the nile,
Hosni was there don't you know?
Now is the time
away oh
Room tem-pra-ture he is now.
King Tut and the virgins too,
Wait him with open outstretched arms.
In paradise
Oh way oh!
And Cleopatra is there too.

Ascending -
High above the ground
Say a-oh, way-oh, a-oh-way-oh.
Float like an Egyptian.

Posted by Oge_Retla_2004 2004-06-16 1:17:05 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:17:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Did we not see a story or two in the last year that mentioned something about Mubarak trying to groom one of his sons for the position?

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-16 1:19:45 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-06-16 1:19:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Okay, this is funny. I just went and typed "Mubarak dead" into google and the second result comes right back to Rantburg.

http://www.rantburg.com/pgDPool.asp?V=3&DNAME=Hosni%20Mubarak

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-16 1:22:14 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-06-16 1:22:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 "...the second result comes right back to Rantburg."
Bwahahahahaha! Chalk up another success for the Rantburg Drive for Media DominanceÂ®!

Posted by Old Grouch 2004-06-16 1:31:35 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:31:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "I'm not dead. In fact, I'm getting better. I think I'll go for a walk."
--Hosni Mubarak

Posted by Mike 2004-06-16 1:37:15 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:37:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 1. there have been rumors of his ill health in main stream media - MSNBC in December
2. Still, posts to Arabic language message boards? Hardly a reliable source. (oh, yeah, and the Lakota Sioux were Arabs, dont ya know)
3. If its true this is BAD timing. What with the Gaza withdrawl coming up. Would be much better if this were to happen AFTER Gaza withdrawl, and Iraqi elections.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-16 1:39:36 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:39:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 If Hosni indeed now communes with the shades of the Pharoahs, I'd bet the farm on somebody trying for a power grab.

Mike

Posted by Anonymous5243 2004-06-16 1:43:45 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:43:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 LONDON (Reuters) - Oil prices eased on Wednesday as a modest increase in U.S. crude stocks offset the impact of sabotage attacks that have crippled Iraqi exports.
U.S. light crude shed four cents to $37.15 a barrel, while London's Brent crude lost three cents to $35.00.

if there was anything to this, i assume that the oil traders would have wind of it, and that the price of oil would go up on the news.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-16 1:57:21 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:57:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Currently reading "Understanding Terror Networks" by Marc Sageman. Excellent Rantburg Book Club material. (Heard about it on NPR, of all places.) One of the key themes is the extent to which al Qaeda is really an Egyptian operation by philosophy (starting with Sayyid Qutb of the Moslem Brothers) and by operational management. Sageman details the split in the nineties between the Egyptian jihadis who wanted to stay local and focus on overthrowing the regime and those who wanted to go global. The leadership of the former group got jugged and for the most part renounced operations against the Egyptian regime. The latter group, led by Al-Zawahiri, coalesced around Bin Laden to form the modern al Qaeda. Or at least al Qaeda as it looked before we started rolling it up.

Here's my amateur take: whole lot of Egyptian jihadi energy out there. If the regime looks vulnerable, that energy could get seriously focused.

Popcorn anyone?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-06-16 2:21:51 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:21:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 #9 Hosni - "You're not fooling anyone, you know."

Posted by BH 2004-06-16 2:21:54 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:21:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I guess if things got bad enough in Egypt we could see a dramatic re-enactment of 1967.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-16 2:26:03 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-06-16 2:26:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 egyptian Islamic Jihad (Zawahiris group, pre merger with AQ) murdered Sadat, terrorized Copts, and attacked western and Israeli tourist. It could get quite nasty if they go on the warpath again. Much like Saudi, now.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-16 2:31:06 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:31:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 if there was anything to this, i assume that the oil traders would have wind of it, and that the price of oil would go up on the news.

If King Abdullah of Jordan tripped and blew out his knee, the price of oil would shoot up immediately.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-16 2:33:42 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:33:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Still nothing on the major news sites as of 2:40 Eastern time. I think this one's a bust.

"See, I'm not dead!"

Okay, Hosni, we hear you.

Posted by Mike 2004-06-16 2:39:59 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:39:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 "E's not pinin', e's passed on."

Posted by mojo 2004-06-16 2:46:13 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:46:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Pass the salt shaker, please:

DEBKAfile reports exclusively: Stubborn rumors that Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak has died are coming from Washington â but not confirmed in Cairo. CIA chief Tenet is reported to have met Mubarak Wednesday.

Posted by growler 2004-06-16 3:00:01 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:00:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Sorry to disappoint you - debunked by Israeli press as well.

Posted by marek 2004-06-16 3:03:15 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:03:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Growler,

Why is DebkaFile not considered trustworthy? I often hear that it isn't always a good source.

Just curious.

Posted by peggy 2004-06-16 3:07:12 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:07:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 marek,

Do you have a link for the story in the Israeli press? Could you post it?

Posted by peggy 2004-06-16 3:35:21 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:35:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 peggy,

Here is a snippet from Haaretz news ticker:

20:53 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak holds talks with CIA director, quashing rumors of illness

Posted by marek 2004-06-16 3:48:11 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:48:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 CAIRO (AFP) - Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak appeared on state television just hours after a London-based Islamist group alleged he had been admitted to hospital in critical condition.

The president, who is 76, was shown meeting with Defense Minister Mohammed Hussein Tantawi and then talking to two reporters outside what appeared to be his residence.

During the brief encounter, Mubarak said that Cairo had offered to train Palestinian security forces as part of efforts to prepare for a planned Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-16 3:54:37 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:54:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Enjoy Hell.

Posted by Chris W. 2004-06-16 4:27:11 PM|| 2004-06-16 4:27:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Debka just isn't all that reliable. Sometimes they're right; other times they post moonbat stuff. Some even suspect they might be an Israeli disinformation site.

Posted by growler 2004-06-16 4:36:36 PM|| 2004-06-16 4:36:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Oge_Retla_

I love it when the Rantburg Symphony makes an appearance even if just for practice.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-16 5:25:55 PM|| 2004-06-16 5:25:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Egyptian Presidency Link

The above link is Mubarak's website.
It is quiet, although not updated recently in terms of events.

Posted by BigEd 2004-06-16 5:51:37 PM|| 2004-06-16 5:51:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Laurence of the Rats---We've got ourselves a loop!

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-16 6:13:46 PM|| 2004-06-16 6:13:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 20:53 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak holds talks with CIA director, quashing rumors of illness
Mubarak - "I feel happy! I feel hap..."

Posted by Scott 2004-06-16 8:03:16 PM|| [http://five24.net] 2004-06-16 8:03:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 How could they tell?

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-06-16 10:34:48 PM|| 2004-06-16 10:34:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 "Sung by Kim Carnes in the 1980s"

I was ther ein the 80's. It was the Bangles, not Kim Karnes. Suzanne Hoff (I think that's her name) was a hot number (their lead singer).

Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-16 11:29:16 PM|| 2004-06-16 11:29:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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