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2024-12-22 Arabia

USS Gettysburg mistakenly shoots down Navy F/A-18 over Red Sea

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Posted by Elmaper+McGurque1612 2024-12-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11149 views ] Top

#1 Collision of two different ships.

Posted by Bobby 2024-12-22 02:19|| 2024-12-22 02:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Friendly fire or covering for a combat loss?

Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-12-22 06:56|| 2024-12-22 06:56|| Front Page Top

#3 The commander of the cruiser is the air defense commander for the strike group

Not anymore.

I am quite honestly saying prayers of thanks that the F-18 crew is alive. I do not, however, have a great deal of faith in the USN to sort this out without simply court-martialing the lowest ranking enlisted man in the chain.

Mike

Posted by MikeKozlowski 2024-12-22 07:09|| 2024-12-22 07:09|| Front Page Top

#4 ^"Yea, but we're ahead on our 'preferred pronouns' schedule."

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-12-22 07:11|| 2024-12-22 07:11|| Front Page Top

#5 And on further reflection what aircraft was the Gettysburg attempting to shoot down when they hit our own aircraft? Didn’t think the Houthis had aircraft just drones and missiles. If they were attempting to hit a drone they pretty clearly missed (hitting our plane instead) - what happened to the drone they were aiming at? Hit by another missile, simply missed or hit an unreported target. There has been so much prevarication and propaganda lately that my instinct is to presume the worst after any press release

Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-12-22 07:23|| 2024-12-22 07:23|| Front Page Top

#6 # 6 Spot on.

Posted by Dale 2024-12-22 07:52|| 2024-12-22 07:52|| Front Page Top

#7 We will never know the facts in our lifetime. How sad.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2024-12-22 08:46|| 2024-12-22 08:46|| Front Page Top

#8 With no more data I gotta assume IFF was off.

Posted by Skidmark 2024-12-22 08:59|| 2024-12-22 08:59|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ or entered incorrectly. We're talking basics here.

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-12-22 09:28|| 2024-12-22 09:28|| Front Page Top

#10 "Lieutenant, who is the lowest ranking member of the crew?"

"Sir, that would be Seaman Apprentice Smith, who joined the crew 3 days ago."

"It was his fault."

"But sir, he was under general anesthesia at the time of the incident."

"See -- dereliction of duty. A court-martial offense. That's why he gets the big bucks."

Posted by Matt 2024-12-22 10:21|| 2024-12-22 10:21|| Front Page Top

#11 The Gettysburg uses AEGIS to track contacts and can fire missiles based on its solutions. Normally, another type of radar paints the target in terminal after the aircraft can’t escape. My info is last century, but I offer it up as clarification. This isn’t like a fire and forget harpoon shot. It was guided in.

Posted by Super Hose 2024-12-22 12:19|| 2024-12-22 12:19|| Front Page Top

#12 Something not quite right about this. Not aviation smart but that the crew ejected safely to me implies a level of damage from a smaller warhead like that found on MANPADS rather than a U.S. Naval SM-2.

The SM-2 "...carries a 64 kg blast fragmentation warhead..."

"FIM-92 Stinger: The warhead of the FIM-92 Stinger contains 2.25 lb (1.02 kg) of HTA-3 explosive.
Mistral MANPADS: The Mistral MANPADS has a 3 kg warhead.
9K32 Strela-2: The warhead of the 9K32 Strela-2 has a weight of 1.15 kg (2.5 lb).
Misagh-3: The warhead of the Misagh-3 has a weight of 1.5 kg (3.3 lb).
QW-11: The warhead of the QW-11 has a weight of 1.42 kg."

Wiki cites.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-12-22 12:46|| 2024-12-22 12:46|| Front Page Top

#13 NoMoreBS if it was a SM-2 the pilot was trying to nock like hell and most likely the missile got a maximum range hit and was enough to make the plane unflyable.

Posted by DarthVader 2024-12-22 13:14|| 2024-12-22 13:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Exactly what time and date was the F-18 shot down? (Israel time if possible please.)

Exactly what time and date (Israel time) did the missile from Yemen hit Tel Aviv?

I'm thinking that there was a highly tense situation and the USS Gettysburg was tracking and shot at a missile or something from Yemen and the F-18 just happen to meet the 'Randy Johnson fastball vs the pigeon' missile, i.e. was in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2024-12-22 13:26|| 2024-12-22 13:26|| Front Page Top

#15 I just checked. Hodhod Yemen News has the following Houthi press release today, claiming the shootdown:

The Yemeni Forces released the following statement:

The armed forces succeeded in thwarting an American-British attack on our country, as the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman and a number of its destroyers were targeted in conjunction with the start of the aggressive attack yesterday evening on our country.

The operation was carried out with eight winged missiles and 17 drones. The operation, with the help of God Almighty, led to:

First: The downing of an F-18 plane while the destroyers were trying to confront the Yemeni missiles and missiles.

Second: Most enemy warplanes left Yemeni airspace for international waters in the Red Sea to defend the aircraft carrier while it was being targeted.

Third: The failure of the hostile attack on Yemeni territory

Fourth: The withdrawal of the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman after being targeted from its previous location towards the northern Red Sea, after being subjected to more than one attack by the missile force, the naval forces, and the unmanned air force.

While the Yemeni armed forces confirm their success in confronting the American-British aggression and thwarting it, they reaffirm their readiness to confront any American-British-Israeli foolishness during the coming period.

It warns the Israeli and American enemy against the aggression against Yemen and that the Yemeni armed forces will use their full right to defend Yemen and continue to support the Palestinian people until the aggression against Gaza is stopped and the siege on it is lifted.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-12-22 15:33|| 2024-12-22 15:33|| Front Page Top

#16 My question was the Ageis in auto engage or did somebody use manual override to fire the missile? it was a manual missile that shot down the Iranian airliner a couple decades ago IIRC.

Posted by Difar Dave 2024-12-22 16:14|| 2024-12-22 16:14|| Front Page Top

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