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2024-08-04 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
F-16 fighters are operating in the skies over Kharkov, media reports
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Posted by badanov 2024-08-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10327 views ]  Top

#1 American pilots?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-08-04 06:28||   2024-08-04 06:28|| Front Page Top

#2 ^ Turnabout is fair play.
Posted by badanov 2024-08-04 07:02||   2024-08-04 07:02|| Front Page Top

#3 Fear the Falcon, baby.

And if we gave them Slammers to go with them, the Russians have a problem.

Mike
Posted by MikeKozlowski 2024-08-04 07:15||   2024-08-04 07:15|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the SLAMER is only for the later F16Cs. I don't think any late model F16Cs are going to Ukraine.
Posted by Difar Dave 2024-08-04 13:17||   2024-08-04 13:17|| Front Page Top

#5 #3 Just like with Javelin, Himars, etc...?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-08-04 13:19||   2024-08-04 13:19|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't think any late model F16Cs are going to Ukraine

I know the Dutch and the Netherlands are giving F-16A/B Block 20 MLU (Mid-Life Update) variants which are just after the 1991 versions. They can definitely use the HARM, but the slammer used by the block 50+ so it is out of their reach.

Honestly I would be surprised if any are close to the front. Ukraine only has a dozen pilots now (by the end of the year they will have 25ish) and risking them and the planes is foolish. Better to use them as air defense for the airfields and factories in the west of Ukraine.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-04 21:51||   2024-08-04 21:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Better to use them as air defense for the airfields and factories in the west of Ukraine.

Yeah, that is what I would do if I were me. Near the front, they become vulnerable to Russian air defense systems + guy in treeline with MANPAD. They are going to need some air defense of their own too, juicy little targets on the ground that they are. So better keep them in the back.

Also, depending on the exact loadout, it looks like F-16 anti-air missiles are shorter range the Russian glide bombs. Corrections welcome.
Posted by SteveS 2024-08-04 22:13||   2024-08-04 22:13|| Front Page Top

#8 if I were me.

Darling SteveS — we all are grateful that you’re you. ;-)

/egregious grammar Nazi, because I’m a little punch drunk on analog life stuff over here in my quiet little corner of the world.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-08-04 23:09||   2024-08-04 23:09|| Front Page Top

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